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Let's see if we can get some more secret tech for this guy from last thread. So far I've got Darkness Imp's Mischief Shred Memory Also what are some good win conditions?
Luis Evans
So I'm thinking of building either Zedruu or Brion Stoutarm, trying to do it on the cheap, any ideas about deciding?
>Pic unrelated
Joseph Lee
Brion is probably cheaper. A lot of the "fuck you" stuff for Zedruu can get expensive
Henry Rodriguez
I'm thinking of making Darien as my next deck. Aside from soldier tribal and lifegain, what should I include for value white stuff?
Liam Hall
Yeah that's what I figured, even have a foil Brion somewhere around here
Dominic Richardson
>Also what are some good win conditions? Hatred is the go-to answer for Toshi, I believe. Tainted Strike should also work.
I found him much better at duel Commander than multiplayer, so I dismantled him pretty quickly and don't have a whole lot of experience. I'll see if I can find my old list somewhere.
Noah Baker
The white soul sisters.
Soul Warden, Soul's Attendant
Ryder Clark
Cremate Funeral Charm Undying Evil Tainted Pact Skeletal Scrying Reaping the Graves Death Denied Moonlight Bargain Rescue From the Underworld
I built my deck as a self-mill Spirit tribal deck because I'm a faggot for flavor. Turns out self-mill isn't terrible - putting bot spirits and instants in the GY was good when some of them my guys had Soulshift. Cards like Millikin and Codex Shredder were helpful, and Mesmeric Orb does a ton of work all on its own.
Adam Brooks
Any more art like this? I want to make a Prince tribute deck. How many characters vaguely look like Prince?
Eli Hughes
Will it be hypocritical of me to say that I hate Iona to an extent that I will never use her in any of my EDH decks, but meanwhile in my monoblack deck, I often combo Infernal Darkness/Contamination with this card?
Nathaniel Murphy
Yeah, obviously.
Owen Parker
What card do you want reprinted?
Levi King
Crucible or Life From The Loam.
Chase Rogers
Sorry for a little Off topic, but I wanted to go back to playing online, yet I can't find full pictures of cards for MWS, Is there another program or a source of Full Pictures I can play with?
Parker Cooper
Pic related too. Price got a massive boost recently tho. Guess i should feel lucky i got two back in the day.
Thomas Cruz
Very
Brody White
Well at least you need to get all the cards for it to work.
Eli Cox
Contamination is pretty easy to keep active in most black decks, and Infernal Darkness buys you a few turns at the least. Hex Parasite is also great with cumulative upkeep cards like that, Glacial Chasm, Tombstone Stairwell, and Phyrexian Etchings.
Zachary Baker
>tfw my 10/10 gf finished her new Avacyn cosplay last night and I am gonna suck her toes later while she wears it
Bentley Perry
Intrepid Hero Conversion Crib Swap Aurification
Carson Baker
be sure to fit this puppy in
Jayden Garcia
you should dress up as sorin before you detroy her
Leo Cook
>feet fetishist
Nathaniel Bailey
>foot hater you must be pretty insecure
Angel Brooks
"no"
Kayden Turner
Blasting Station
Carson Cooper
For infinite suicide?
Blake Garcia
Need secret sydri tech/advice. Never played artifacts before - how do I make it fun? But my understanding all artifacts do is combo. Is that true?
Adrian King
Man, we're on Veeky Forums. Of course i am.
I don't have any problem with feet. But foot fetish always felt pretty gross to me.
Brandon Bell
Need help with an Intet, the dreamer deck. I dont want to make a typical boring dragon tribal, im thinking along the lines of a janky control-combo decks, using such janktastic spells like Spelljack or Overwhelming Intellect. But also I want to use some powerful cards like Omniscience and Temporal Mastery (the latter has miracle so that's a plus) to hopefully cast an interesting combo.
I've included some scry to abuse Intet's ability.
Jayden Phillips
Post the best Magical Christmasland scenario you've ever pulled off
>Imprinting a Darksteel Juggernaut with Prototype Portal >copying Portal with Kurkesh >copying Kurkesh with Strionic Resonator >Unwinding Clock out means 3 Juggernauts a turn >ended up with 12 18/18 indestructible tramplers (Archetype of Aggression) by the time it came back around to me
Tyler Lewis
>winning a 4-player pod with Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
Carter Thomas
>all artifacts do is combo Well, there's not much reason to NOT run Arcum in the 99, but artifacts also do value well. I've seen a good Sydri deck which just plays big artifacts like Staff of Nin and Darksteel Forge and then smashes face by turning them into huge deathtouching lifelinking creatures.
Samuel Powell
>describe your strengths and weaknesses as a magic player >post one of your favorite cards >other people hopefully suggest spicy cards that you would like
I'll start:
Strengths: >I understand how the graveyard works and the general process for making sure my fragile boss creatures don't get instantly wiped >I love cycle and engine cards that help me sift through my deck at a fairly good speed >I know how to mana ramp efficiently and make sure my dorks/rocks stay alive
Weaknesses >rarely ever have anything with life gain >I struggle with the first three-four turns and fast tempo decks >most of my removal is either mill or discard, so I have trouble getting pesky creatures off the field without using my own creatures
>Favorite Card Oh I love this spicy motherfucker. Some people critique it by saying "Oh you'll never get to attack, it'll just stay tapped down." to which I respond, yes I know, that's the point. If it isn't tapped down I win, so my goal is to drop it early enough to make people cry as they need to choose carefully which one of their creatures is getting buried each turn. I like the war of attrition, flashy stuff is only if the situation is right.
Nicholas Butler
>not liking the most obnoxious fetishists in the known universe makes you ``insecure''
Jordan Ramirez
Strength >Threat Management, I can easily tell when someone is about to combo a victory, or whose capable of actually winning a game given their board state
Weakness >Salty as Fuck, and I let little things at the start of a match dictate the rest of the match >I don't utilize instants well enough Favorite Card Too many to count, but pic related can really fuck people over and even end games on its own
Alexander Young
Oh I have one of these.
>corpsejack menace hanging out on the field for-fucking-ever, no +1/+1 counters to help it out >eventually draw vulterous zombie, play it >opponent starts to get wise, but he's all in for his voltron setup that's about three turns away while I chump block >other opponents are too busy pinging and countering each other >play traumatize the next turn >equip blade of selves to vulterous aven >everyone cries
Jackson Thomas
>insulting people for something private and completely unrelated to you implies a high self esteem Next you tell me avoiding eye contact and stuttering are traits of confident people
>Man, we're on Veeky Forums. oops my bad. go on
Jackson Mitchell
That's neat, I bet you run five alarm blaze very effectively.
Aiden Cooper
The shit you talkin?
Did you even read Darien? City of brass, Nomad Coliseum and Tarnished citadel are his best friends.
Julian Gomez
why not? it's basically a land that says "tap: add one white mana to your mana pool and put a 1/1 white soldier creature token onto the battlefield" the value is unreal!
Robert Torres
Is it worth running Urborg and Crypt Ghast in a BUG deck? I know to sideboard it out on anyone who plays black, but I don't know if the combo is more trouble than it's worth.
Sebastian Miller
no, now just play stuff you think is fun and are good.
Asher Barnes
Here's my jank ass Intet deck. Note that I run too many creatures right now, and should probably cut Archaeomancer and Izzet Chronarch for Call to Mind and Mystic Retrieval. Also, no tutors is specifically to power the deck down for a casual playgroup, but Worldly and Mystical Tutors are great with Intet. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/intet-dragonstorm-2/
Xavier Long
>crack a fetch land on my turn >in response, cycle a Decree of Annihilation >an opponent casts Idyllic Tutor, obviously going for Land Tax >counter with Pact of Negation >all lands get destroyed >fetch up a Plains and play a blue land >next turn I pay the Pact cost because my opponent had an Extraplanar Lens naming Plains and I had a Mirari's Wake >dredge up a Life from the Loam
On its own it didn't win me the game but the stars really aligned for me to destroy all lands and play Pact of Negation at the same time without losing.
Christopher Lewis
post 'em
Robert Carter
furries tho, user
Luke Howard
>>Playing fungus tribal vs. Prossh, Karador, and Narset >>T1 Green Hideaway, tucking Concordant Crossroads >>Drop Earthcraft T2 >>Gets around the table >>Drop Vernal Bloom >>Gets around the table >>Mana Reflection, Parallel Lives >>Gets around the fucking table >>Nigga wat >>Sprout Swarm to infinity "Oh, neat, but you can't win. You're just playing on a lower level than-" >>Hideaway reveals Crossroads " . . . fuck."
Never in all my games have I ever seen threat assessment so poor. Who the fuck ignores Earthcraft, Mana Reflection, and Parallel Lives?
Dylan Sanchez
Alrighty, I have tweaked this Mimeoplasm deck a lot since I last posted it here. I'm just wondering power-level wise, how does it compare to the precons? I'm going to be playing with some newer players, and as a new player myself, I want my deck to be neat, janky, but still challenging. I can change the lands around a lot with various dual lands I have hanging out.
I built a Brion Stoutarm deck. Honestly? Buy the pre built R/W Giant tribe commander deck, a phyrexian processor, semblence anvil, and a mimic vat. Fairly cheap, and aside from a few other cards here and there it will have most of the cards you want anyway.
Sebastian Powell
>kingmaker I'm fine with grouphug decks, but kingmaker are the fucking worst.
Jackson Gray
don't forget serra avatar
Oliver James
You can't actually make Darksteel Juggernauts with the copied portals.
Jose Edwards
I'm dumb, didn't read. Disregard post, I suck cocks.
Caleb Martinez
You know you can delete posts right? Only complete sperglords really car about that jazz.
Daniel Stewart
I am actively begging him to turn it into a Gahiji deck.
Aiden Hernandez
Go to combat and swing with a few dudes including my boy teferi, have leyline of anticipation and pyromancers goggles out. in response to blockers(if any) flash my bribery at an opponent. In response to counter dragonrage, then reiterate dragon rage with goggles and buyback untill i have infinate red, copy bribery infinate times and steal every non land from my opponents decks, then firebreathing them for infinate damage. Any survivors wont be able to win.
James Hall
>playing casual R/G fatties against my friend's monowhite beatdown >he gets Brimaz and Godsend, equips Godsend to and endlessly spawning series of tokens >I cry myself to sleep while everything I own gets exiled
Owen Bell
>RG >Having a problem with an artifact.
Kayden Butler
You're in the two best colors to deal with artifacts?
Jayden Ramirez
Oh I learned my lesson. I thought if my fatties were stronk enough I could just ignore most things, but that was a big wake-up call. I now have some specific artifact hate.
Gabriel Williams
Don't forget enchantments too. Fatties are fun, but nothing beats a deck rounded enough to handle whatever gets thrown at it.
Caleb Powell
Shameful self bump. Anyone have any suggestions?
Ethan Sanchez
I got the Gitgud frog in a draft and was wondering if it would be worth including in the 99 of my Jarad deck (I really don't want to change the commander). I'd need to add some more stuff that synergizes with the monster, but I used to run Harrow and Realms Uncharted anyway, and Crop Rotation to find Coffers/Urborg has been something I've been thinking of making room for. Current list: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jarad-is-a-zombie-elf-with-no-class/
Austin Ortiz
Little wonky, but I would cut Jin and the Phyrexian hydra. It'll piss people off even if the rest of the deck is janky.
Gabriel Diaz
Super fun for more aggressive reanimation deck, though depending on the group power level, he may not want to include the Master of Crueties/ebon night blade/raving dead. I might have to remove atleast the master.
Having a sitronic resonator, illusionist's bracers, doubling season, primal vigor, and parallel lives on rith is always fun. Also, the turn 3 Alesha kill with Master of Crueties made me feel kinda bad
Camden Sanchez
>in the deckbuilder sim I had an opening hand that was a swamp, burried alive, a forest, an island and sol ring That's perfectly reasonable Jin and the hydra were some of my main targets to dump into the graveyard, thanks for the suggestion. Power-level wise, how do you think it's going to fair? I don't really want to blow people out, but I generally want to be competitive.
Daniel Phillips
Hard to say. A lot of strange decisions. I would advise looking at similar decks to decide on ratios of such things as mana dorks, reanimator, fatties, Wraths and single target removal.
Jose Gutierrez
Fair enough, other setups seem to be pretty expensive with snapcasters duplication and the like. In general, what are some of the strangest decisions? The lands are fucked, and I have a crush on Deep-sea kraken, but the idea was to play based off the strength of my opponents deck and hope my commander can pull off the occasional "oops I won". I'll post the first version so you can see how things have improved, if you're interested. This is also my first three colour deck, and I think I really just wanted to make a two colour deck with The Mimeoplasm as my commander.
I don't understand the following cards in your deck:
Blood soaked Champion Reef Worm Scourge of Nel Toth Scute Mob Spore Frog
They don't seem to synergize with your deck and Mimeo at all. You have a lot of mana dorks, the deck has 38 lands, but very little fatties. There are a lot of very weak mill cards in the deck, such as Tome Scour.
You have close to 0 targeted removal and about 1.5 Wraths. Even cheap simple cards like Putrefy or Gaze of Granite can help a lot.
Joshua Price
Oh that's awesome, thank you so much. I admit it, those are all pet cards I put in there because I thought they were neat, apart from Scute mob, which works nicely with the corpseja-
>tfw I forgot to include corpsejack menace
FUCK.
Anyways, I actually have quite a few wraths and targeted removal which I can splash in there. Would it be better to remove some of the mill and focus more on targeted discard like duress/distress? I think I fell in love with the idea of milling something nice that my opponent has, which probably isn't very practical.
Levi Gray
Thinking about making a deck for this guy. Other than Maralen and Ghost Quarter, what's some good tech for him?
Elijah Ward
Grave pact and dictate of erebos
Benjamin Jackson
Good creatures will end up in graveyards without you needing to mill, creatures die after all. A few mill cards here and there might be fun, but generally, milling an opponent for your own gain isn't very practical in EDH as they are likely to have cards to get advantage off of their graveyard first. Most mill decks use things like Leyline of the Void to stop this, but that's not what you want.
Something like Hypnotic Specter could be fun for binning a creature of theirs, but it really isn't necessary. But something like Nath could be a fun enabler if you go with discard as a secondary sub theme.
Eli Howard
What spell were you buying back? How were you copying Bribery? How were you stealing nonland, noncreature permanents from libraries with Bribery?
Logan Long
>Hypnotic Specter Amazing, that's exactly what I wanted in there in the first place.
>Nath Okay I see what you're doing.
How do you feel about self-mill in general? I realized most of the stuff in the deck was designed to hit myself, with the thought/tome scours. I can probably cut curse of the bloody tome right away and leave the few hand-based mill cards that I already have because they accomplish both self mill and discard.
Liam Sanders
Self mill is fine, but most of the mill you had in your deck didn't suit that purpose very well. Memory Erosion and Mind Grind don't hit you, Sphinx's Tutelage, Talent of the Telepath, Mind Funeral can't target you.
Discard outlets are a good idea, especially with things like Vengeful Pharaoh. I recommend something like Necromancer's Stockpile. As for self mill, your best bet are cards that provide repeatable and useful selfmill like Sultai Ascendancy, Deadbridge Chant, Nyx Weaver, Splinterfright.
Hunter Morales
>deadbridge chant >sultai ascendancy I actually have both of those cards, I'll go put them in right now. You've given me a lot to think about, I really appreciate it. In a week or so I might post an updated decklist that's a little bit more viable. For tonight's purposes, I think I'll fair pretty well unless there is a sneaky spike at the table, and if there is, I'll just swap to good ol' xenagos beatdown.
Cameron Baker
Super hyprocritical
Ethan James
ehhh, youre right on the edge there
nothing wrong with personally avoiding certain cards but as soon as you start berating somebody else for playing Iona, its over, youre officially a shit eating fag
contamination is simply a more powerful card than iona so if youre gonna be a spike, then you cant be a faggot casual at the same time
Tyler Sanchez
playgroup looks pretty good, now I'm really interested in building a nemata deck
Zachary Sanders
psshh i do that all the time
Kayden Cooper
You forgot this guy
Joshua Jenkins
...
Nathaniel Martin
post your secret tech
Jonathan Brown
strenghts >card evaluation >rules knowledge >knowing when i need to leave up instant speed interaction
weaknesses >strategic tunnel vision, once i get on a plan i sometimes make foolish misplays because i wasnt considering all possible lines of play >occasionally get caught in the trap of playing things too early for the purpose of spending mana efficiently >too high/drunk
Oliver Kelly
I run Loaming Shaman.
Caleb Williams
>too high
holy shit 4 player EDH games while high. too many cards on the field, so many effects to worry about
Anthony Reyes
That's a pretty spicy tech right there. Is it particularly expensive? I like this guy personally.
Michael Nelson
idk
i have urborg cabal coffers in my grixis deck, no land tutors, just demonic tutor, sidisi, rune scarred demon
but ive been very pleased with the decision, my deck focuses on black mostly and the ramp it provides is always amazing even if i cant get it consistently every game
im waiting for cabal coffers to shit all over one of my opening hands and make me regret its include but that hasnt happened quite yet
i think crypt ghast has a slightly higher value floor than cabal coffers though so maybe you have even less risk
John Roberts
Maralen is the dankness with him since it forces a search
Wyatt Sanchez
Reiterate? I never let the stack clear. guess they could have played enchanments and rocks but they scooped up when I went infinate, it was a couple months ago and i dont use bribery anymore, had to look up that its only creatures again.
Henry Perry
pretty awesome play
i hate pact of negation with all my heart but thats a stylish way to use it
Andrew Sullivan
Strengths: >I tend to see several paths to victory and can consistently maneuver my way to victory without drawing much attention to myself >I'm pretty good at identifying threats and keeping the game at parity >I'm pretty good at playing around cards in my opponent's decks
Weaknesses: >I tend to deal a little too much damage to myself and can often die to big burn spells >I undervalue the power of just attacking with creatures. >I always end up countering everyone's best cards which often puts a target on my head
>Favorite Card I love standstill because it allows me to do nothing and still win
Parker Reed
definitely
we had this fucked up attitude going around in my playgroup for awhile that as long as the player who owns an effect doesnt realize its been violated, then no violation occurred, so people were not bothering to even look at other people's effects before playing cards and then getting both butthurt when you remind them and also trying to say they get to do illegal shit since you werent paying attention when they ignored one of your effects
i.e. one time i had a gaddock teeg and aven mindcensor out, and my friend casts skyshroud claim while i was drinking and joking with another person at the table
he starts rifling through his deck and im like yooo, only the top 4 (not knowing what spell it was), and hes like fuck that dude pay attention to the board
>mfw
and then somebody else points out that he cant even cast skyshroud claim and i lol
thankfully ive won people over to my side and we all accept shared responsibility for keeping track of the board state
Henry Sanders
Ask a guy who hasn't gotten any pussy in almost a year but just finished building his first commander deck anything.