Purchasers of the latest Fate World of Adventure, Mort, have recently been e-mailed this regarding an update:
>We thoughtlessly used the word "lamely" in the cryogeist statblock. We aren't a fan of ableist (or any other kind of marginalizing or prejudicial) language, so we corrected that.
>Please accept our apologies on this matter. We've made sure to update our writing guidelines to try to do a better job of heading off such thoughtlessness in the future.
>Best,
>Evil Hat
Aren't you guys happy to have such considerate RPG writers?
dont play it Never heard of it. If its run by overly SJW bitches it will fail so who cares.
Jack Collins
I really hate that I love Fate, because Evil Hat is a bunch of revisionist, self-aggrandizing SJW fucks. Beyond that, they're just plan dickheads and I'm ashamed that I like what they've created because otherwise I would have literally nothing good to say about them.
Fortunately I haven't given them a dime, and I never ever will.
Owen Hall
>ableist >lame Fucking LMAO. These are the same fucks that get mad when someone says "I got jipped" when that phrase has literally nothing to do with actual Romani people (gypsies), that's just a stupid fucking urban legend.
They have already censored their G+ group to the point of sterility (people banned for arguing that you can't censor ALL language that will offend ANYBODY, not in favor of slurs, just NOT in favor of complete and utter censorship of any even POSSIBLY offensive wording, language, etc.), I really hope they fuck themselves into the ground somehow.
Eli Evans
pic related
Ryan Thomas
See, there's the conflict: I want them to lose money for being such fucktards, but on the other hand, it'd be a shame if they stopped producing games. Sure, most of it's shit and has been for quite a while, but their early few Worlds of Adventure were pretty neat and there's always a chance more might come.
Benjamin Brooks
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Adrian Davis
What I want to see is them now getting a furious e-mail from someone with a bum leg telling them he's feeling sidelined.
Jacob Fisher
I'm personally offended by the use of the English language, created through the reckless cultural abuse of innocent, ethnic Saxons by cis-Norman scum.
Grayson Gutierrez
Well shit, I was just thinking about whether or not to learn FATE to run a Supers game.
Jace Stewart
Don't worry, Evil Hat won't call the Thought Police if every single hero in your game is a nonwhite, non-hetero, non-gender binary, fat, disabled Buddhist.
Sebastian Miller
You sound triggered.
Hudson Fisher
The system's fine, and is great for a superhero game.
The book itself is free of this kind of shit.
What I want to know is if this was case of them self-policing or if some fag actually emailed/tweeted them bitching about their use of "ableist" language.
Ryder Powell
What do I need to run supers in it?
Kayden Jones
>backpedaling over "lamely" >"Ableist" Dropped
Kayden Thomas
Venture City, and Fate Core for basic rules knowledge. And that's it.
Ayden Phillips
Exactly. It's a great system, owned and operated by terrible people.
Liam Russell
lame.
Good thing I hate FATE and never gave those censorious, priggish assholes at Evil Hat any money.
Isaiah Sanders
>A clear definition of the game's power levels.
and
>Players who can understand how to use Aspects/Stunts appropriately.
My recommendation is to write up a short explanation of Aspects and Stunts in the context of a Superhero game for your players. I'd recommend using established heroes to explain it. Captain America and Scarlet Witch should be good examples, because they have recent exposure and cover the two major bases for most superpowers (punchy vs. weird).
Daniel Cox
>tg gets triggered over people being different than them
Bentley Murphy
>random user doesn't understand the difference between "expressing dislike" and "getting triggered".
Samuel Walker
Triggered?
Oliver Peterson
ayup
Grayson Lewis
And Fred Hicks is a salty infant, for the record He got triggered by another mod and cried
Jesus H please give me a place to discuss Fate mechanics without Evil Hat up my ass
Oliver Gutierrez
>Jesus H please give me a place to discuss Fate mechanics without Evil Hat up my ass This is what I've been wishing for.
Jacob Cooper
Damn, I came here to post this. I just rolled my eyes at their new SJW-pandering and self-flagellation.
Jason Walker
cuck a doodle doo
Jayden Cook
I feel like I should post a comment or review on the product page just telling them to stop this shit.
Nathaniel Scott
Do it. The only way things are going to get any better is if Hicks and co realise they're alienating their fanbase with this shit.
Benjamin Mitchell
But user, don't you understand that there are just so many trillions of crippled Muslim black lesbians out there who are literally only waiting for the industry to become a bit less patriarchal before becoming full fledged RPG nerds, and they'd be alienating those if they used the word "lamely"? They're just being inclusive!
Christopher Hernandez
Evil Hat are already bending over backwards and became max cuck, no new SJWs have touched their system. As we all know, these people never actually read or play the things they shit themselves over.
Robert Cox
>tfw your favourite system was created by the worst kind of people. They weren't like that to begin with were they? When did it start?
Ryan Moore
What did they replace 'lamely' with?
Robert Rogers
If it's replaced with 'stupidly' or something, we should mobilize 100 reviews on DriveThru about how we're a group of independent and proud idiots, and we're offended and feel oppressed by the fact that idiot-kind is being reduced and marginalized by "ableist" CIS binary-hating white privelege men.
STUPID is a hate term for "learning-challenged", fuck these oppressive assholes.
Sebastian Gomez
I don't know. Do you think I actually downloaded the update?
Isaac Martinez
Sorry but why is lamely a bad word again?
Hunter Baker
Supposedly it offends those who are literally lame (i.e. have a bad leg).
I happen to actually be one of these people, since I had a bone removed from mine when I was 14 due to bone cancer. I actually walk with a cane and all that.
I find this absolutely hilarious.
Elijah Howard
At what point are people going to attack the name "Evil Hat" for discriminating against moral relativists? Or worse, attacking Fred Hicks' surname for being a slur against white Southerners?
Christopher Thompson
Hello Fate fans,
Our founder was thoughtlessly born with the word "hicks" on his birth certificate. We aren't a fan of ableist (or any other kind of marginalizing or prejudicial) language, so we corrected that.
Please accept our apologies on this matter. We've made sure to update our child-bearing and naming guidelines to try to do a better job of heading off such thoughtlessness in the future.
Jose Ortiz
>thinking disabled people are actually so delicate as to be offended by this shit
Jackson Adams
>Hello, this is Fred here >We've found multiple cases of "walking" and "talking" as well as "seeing" mentioned within the core rules >to avoid ableist wording, we have amended all of our rules and supplements >instead, these terms shall heretofore be replaced with "physically transitioning locations", "communicating via audible or inaudible means", and "detection through one of the five generalized human senses" >the skill list has also been amended. There is no more Athletics, Notice, Physique, or Provoke (no Provoke because we do not condone the harassment of others as a means to an end in ANY case, even in game ones)
Jack Thompson
>there is no more Provoke (no Provoke because we do not condone the harassment of others as a means to an end in ANY case, even in game ones Kek
Elijah Baker
>Hi, despite our latest adjustment to skills, we've collectively decided the skills in general are far too ableist for those who are unapologetically "talentless". >After much dissection, the only available skill interaction will be between Empathy exchanges. >We're working to remake the skill pyramid into the novel "skill brick".
Um, you're aware 'cuck' is considered a valid lifestyle? We'd prefer the expression, "broof a doodle doo" to avoid infringing on cucks.
Samuel Rivera
>all characters will now possess a single skill, "human being", at skill level Great. Because everyone is great, and that should be reflected within the rules as it is in Real Life.
Leo Clark
Empathy? You heartless cunt! What of all the poor sociopaths out there who will never know the feeling?
Asher Wilson
>>After much dissection, the only available skill interaction will be between Empathy exchanges. But that's offensive to autists everywhere! Racist.
Zachary Ross
"Human Being"? But I'm a mantis shrimp! HELP! I'M FEELING MARGINALIZED!
David Long
Fuck you, nature gave you ultravision and plasma claws. Let us keep our hobbies.
Jaxon Parker
>Fate points as a mechanic have been removed. We firmly believe that all people are in control of their own fate, and everyone should be given an equal chance at greatness. Furthermore, this prevents negative aspects such as "one leg" from being used to negatively affect or Compel a character; this is by design. All people have equal opportunities in Fate games, and people who play disadvantaged characters should not be punished for exploring such important facets of other lives.
Kayden Nelson
Dat thread 10/10 good show boys (and girls, in case Evil Hat's thought detector goes off)
Jace Miller
(and mantis shrimp, in case Evil Hat's thought detector goes off)
Owen Murphy
We support all varieties of shrimp here at Evil Hat Productions™.
Jacob Williams
I am a half-dolphin, half-human who self-identifies as a shrimp (but a large shrimp, really more like a lobster). Frankly, the scant amount of material provided for my interests makes me feel marginalized and under-appreciated as a sizable demographic of North American culture. If you could please be more sensitive to this in the future, me and all my half-dolphin, half-human shrimp self-identifiers would really appreciate it.
Julian Turner
Imagine how depressing it must be to be a one-armed mantis shrimp All your friends can hadoken and only you can't
I think I know what my next character's gonna be
Andrew Turner
>that feel when I'm a white male and no shrimp will game with me because I failed to check my privilege :(
Brandon Watson
Samson the Angry Mantis Shrimp
High Concept: Mantis Shrimp On The Path of Freedom Aspects: Talk to the CLAW Baby, I Look Even Better In Polarized Justice For My Mantis Shrimp Brothers Flaw: Secret Heart of Gold
Forceful: Great Flashy: Good Sneaky: Good Clever: Average Quick: Average Careful: Mediocre
Jayden Sanders
Stunt suggestion: It's the CLAW!: Once per session, because I have crazy-strong claws, I can cut anything into pieces or destroy any physical obstacle
Kevin Phillips
Add a perverted sloth, a drug dealing axolotl and a gorilla zen monk, and you got yourself a party of meme animals.
Together, they fight God.
Alexander Wright
Thank you folks. This thread made me happy.
Alexander Fisher
Linchimp Yixuan
High Concept: Three Wise Monkeys in One Aspects: There Are No Jimmies, There Is No Rustling Once I was like this, but then I found ENLIGHTENMENT The Unlikeliest Of Friends Flaw: The Flesh is Strong, But Bananas Are Delicious
Careful: Great Clever: Good Quick: Good Forceful: Average Sneaky: Average Flashy: Mediocre
Stunt:
Monkey Style: Because I'm a master of my own special brand of monkey style kung-fu, I get a +2 when Clevery Defending by using the enviroment
Dominic Allen
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Jason Baker
MEME TEAM, ASSEMBLE
Ryan Miller
FEAR NOT, CRUSHED MINORITY We will begin integrating all new adventure add-ons with fresh pronouns that don't discern between the varieties of shrimp nor the engenderments of humans!
~t. your ever-thoughtful Evil Hat Productions
Landon Hall
Sebastian the Sexy Sloth
High Concept: Xenarthran Ex-Con In Search of Redemption Aspects: Just A Thing I Learned In Prison Your Mouth Says No, But Mine Says "Ssssh" They'll Never See Me Coming Flaw: When You're Trying To Lose Weight, Candies Are Everywhere
Sneaky: Great Careful: Good Forceful: Good Clever: Average Flashy: Average Quick: Mediocre
Stunt:
The Whisper: Because no woman can resist the Whisper, I get +2 when forcefully seducing a woman whose shoulders I'm hanging from.
Noah Nguyen
*overcoming to seduce, in FAE parlance
Evan Gonzalez
10/10, would use as pregens
Brandon Morris
Dietrich Gaius Von Gormenghast
High Concept: Big Axolotl in the Smiley Cartel Aspects: You Wouldn't Like Me To Drop The Smile I'll Have My Men Handle It They? They're Also In My Pocket Flaw: I Was Just Trying To Make Them Happy!
Flashy: Great Quick: Good Forceful: Good Clever: Average Sneaky: Average Careful: Mediocre
Stunt:
Reverse Aging: One per adventure, I can spend 1 Fate point claim some obscure fact about axolotl biology to immediately recover from a Minor Setback, safe in the knowledge nobody knows enough about axolotl biology to argue
Anthony Davis
Holy shit, this thing ought to be archived.
Luke Williams
Even as someone with social justicey leanings this pisses me off. It doesn't do anything to solve any problems in the RPG community and it definitely doesn't do anything to solve the way more important problems GSM people face in the world at large. Evil Hat just want to rub everyone's faces in how "sensitive" and "caring" they are. As you read it you can practically hear Fred Hick's grunts as moans as he jacks off to what a good person he is. When GSM people complain about shitty allies, this is exactly the kind of behavior they're referring to.
Landon Kelly
>Your Mouth Says No, But Mine Says "Ssssh" When do you invoke that?
Some of those aspects are really vaguely worded. They probably won't do in a game.
Gavin Gonzalez
Rape rolls?
Jacob Garcia
The ultimate in silent takedowns
Leo Clark
BUTT pirate: +2 when forcefully creating advantage to pin someone in order to pillage their booty
Evan Lewis
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Nicholas Martinez
Still better than Phantom Pain
Henry Smith
>Ableist. Is that new speach? What the fuck is the meaning of this.
Nathaniel Bennett
Discrimination of the disabled. It's all the rage now with SJWs.
Jacob Smith
It's "Differently Abled" now, by the way.
Grayson Ramirez
It seems like a bad joke lel. In my experience people with actual disablities tend to downplay it or joke hardcore about it, but being offended for being called lame is more a parents thing.
No kidding. Evil Hat is literally working on a supplement dedicated to it. Stay tuned for the Alternative Sexuality Handbook, the Religious Inclusion Guide, and the Nonwhite Pride Manual.
Jackson Lopez
Evil Het(ero) Games?
Caleb Perez
Are they trying to say that people with two eyes don't have an advantage in sight compared to those with no eyes?
Brandon King
This is what happens when you live in a privileged bubble.
It's amazing how privileged these people are compared to everyone else, they're literally the most privileged people in existence.
They're literally so privileged the only thing they can feel bad about is how people are mean to OTHER PEOPLE!
Brayden Garcia
You did good, Veeky Forums. You did good.
Hudson Peterson
So, Kung Fu Panda?
Benjamin Cooper
Hi! I'm disabled! None of the disabled people I know give a shit about people using 'lame' as an insult. Not even the rampaging SJWs among us (and I tend that way myself). Really, we don't care. There are much bigger problems for disabled people to deal with, starting with the fact that we're disabled in the first place, and then after that dealing with shit like not getting access to the meds we need and stuff like that. Some chump calling things 'lame' is so far down the list of problems, it's basically not even a thing.
Cooper Miller
Go away, and never return.
Carter Peterson
Less complaining, more statting up meme animals
Brody Hughes
Doge Cane Divertente IV
High Concept: Sovereign of the Serene Republic of Verynice Aspects: Much Progress Very Manipulative Such Schemes Flaw: Most Enemies
Stunt: Such Riches Because I'm the doge of the city of merchants, I get +2 when I Flashily Overcome obstacles by throwing money around.
Sebastian Flores
Clever: Great Flashy: Good Careful: Good Sneaky: Average Quick: Average Forceful: Mediocre
Chase Miller
Peter The non-PC Puffin
High Concept: A Puffin who isn't afraid of the PC Police
Aspects: Brutally honest I'm not racist, BUT Gay people don't bother me, faggots do Black people smell funny
Flaw: Afraid to admit true opinions
Stunt: Drunken Sayings Are Sober Thoughts, whenever I get inebriated I let my true thoughts and feelings heard. These outbursts grant me +2 whenever I take Flashy or Forceful approaches to minorities of any community.
Clever: Good Flashy: Average Careful: Poor Sneaky: Great Quick: Average Forceful: Mediocre
Michael Collins
>when you reply to a "Stat Me" thread with a Fate block but no one gets what's going on
Jaxson Rodriguez
I bought Mort and have not seen this email.
I'm not calling you a liar, but I literally have not seen any such email you're alleging exists.
Gavin Hughes
>date literally owned and opperated by tumblr denizens Explains a lot desu
Lucas Ross
I know that feeling. Posted in the Donald Trump thread and didn't even get a (You).
Jonathan Campbell
I have Morts and I did get the email. It's real.
Daniel Hernandez
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Chase Cruz
Still nothing. Bought it on DriveThru, which is definitely linked to my main email address.