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His INT is abysmal.

Huh. Never thought of it like that.

>took a feat
>paid skill points
Ah yes, I have never seem a barbarian do this, you have a point.

>What is a robotic arm
>What is dex not being tied down only to 3D vision

He's a Conan style barbarian, not the kind of mouth-breather that most D&D players play

outside of the armor thing, I'll concede that at least.

Well, actually, he talks about how he doesn't have enough control in the arm, he couldn't even catch his friend with it when they were falling off a boat because he couldn't close his hand.

except everyone in the series has commented on him being fairly intelligent
>trying to argue that a sheet of metal with a magnet in it is somehow more dextrous than a warrior's arm
>arguing that depth perception is uneeded in hand-eye coordination
get the fuck out

>Conan style barbarian
So, not a barbarian but for some reason is referred to as one?

That fits Guts perfectly, t b h.

Griffith did nothing wrong/10

>Sheet of metal magnet
He has full control over the fingers, and can hold items pretty nimbly. It's obvious that his arm has some FANTASY properties that can not be explained in our universe.

>You can't have great hand-eye co-ordination or Dexterity if you're missing an eye

You're honestly so fucking stupid, that I'm not going to bother replying to whatever you type from here on out.

If you were trolling, good job, you pretended to be a retarded in a way that was so believable that I'd give it a 7/10 for the bait quality.

he's not a barbarian, but a berserker dual classed with edgelord.

implying handicaps have anything to do with dexterity

sure it makes the rolls harder and he would take a penalty, but his dex stat is still high as fuck

do you not remember how he can jump from demon to demon? do you not remember the times he did a spinning flip?

dude is low charisma with average int/wis. he is quick at thinking but isnt well educated.

>except everyone in the series has commented on him being fairly intelligent
What? When has anyone said anything to Guts that implied he has high int?

>full control of the fingers
cannot grab people falling off boats ;^) nice headcanon idiot
>great hand-eye coordination
And I love how his missing eye coordinates with his missing arm.

>low charisma
>low Wisdom
user plz, he has high in both of them but hes got shit dex and hes got multiple cases of bestow curse on him with permency.

>And I love how his missing eye coordinates with his missing arm.
Actually, his missing eye is on the same side as his non-missing hand. Nice one, retard.

Your picture reminds me Guts is plenty acurate with his crossbow and throwing daggers.

Yeah I know right, who would have thought that a fictional character can be accurate without needing two eyes or depth perception?

You're on a board discussing the fictional stats of a fictional character for a game, I don't think that argument works.

I give up, you are too stupid. Go play your magical realm where cripples have high dex.
They call him tactically brilliant, a quick learner and good student, and very good at predicting what will happen on the battlefield. Obviously, all of this has to do with warfare. I honestly can't remember if he was illiterate or not, but I might concede that you cannot have high intelligence if you are only intelligent in learning and conducting warfare
he is not very charismatic though, at least he didn't use to be. Now that he is a party leader, maybe you are right. But in the past, he was a rude motherfucker who earned respect solely through his accomplishments alone.

>>Knows how to read and write
Has he ever been shown reading or writing? I've read Berserk a dozen times from beginning to hiatus and I don't remember him ever holding a quill or reading anything.

I don't think he can read or write at all.

About this whole high dex vs Low Dex, I would say that for day-to-day activities it's a low dex, but for battles its very high, so I would just consider it a medium-high.

I don't either. It's not like he needs to given the setting and time period though. Chances are everyone but nobles and merchants are illiterate anyway.

He seems good at convincing people, but it might be more of a type of intimidation.

What retard user fails to understand, is that most of his high dex comes when he is in his berserking state, because of all the magical shit. Oh well, he is MC after all, why not give him superhuman levels of everything, especially edgyness.

>They call him tactically brilliant
When?

>a quick learner and good student
The stuff he learns quickly is more due to him being good at controlling his body. He's a quick learner in a way that a talented athlete would be a quick learner when you teach them some new move in sports.

>very good at predicting what will happen on the battlefield
That comes from the experience of spending his whole life on the battlefield. This is wisdom, not int.

Guts is average int, high dex.

You, on the other hand, must have rolled a 1 for INT at birth.

Let's flip this around.
If you were to design a character class (any class-based system will do) around Guts, how would you do it?

Well he's still pretty good at handling his weapons even WITHOUT the berserk mode.

Name: Guts
Maid Types: Boyish (Athletics +1, Skill -1). and Heroine (Will +1, Luck -1)
Athletics: 3
Affection: 3
Skill: 2
Cunning: 1
Luck: 1
Will: 2
Favor: 6
Spirit: 20

Uniform: Black.
Hair: Black.
Eyes: Black.
Stress Explosion: he unleashes violence on the other maids and the master
Weapon: Any western-style sword, there can only be one.
Maid Power: Giant Weapon: he can attack with a giant weapon. (+1 to Athletics for attacking).

Fighter. Scales off of STR, CON, DEX. A little bit of wisdom as well, but not much.
Proficiency in armour, two handed weapons, thrown weapons.
No anger-related mechanics, most of that comes from Guts' gear.

Did you just make a Maid RPG character sheet for Guts?

Don't argue with him, he's retarded. It's not his fault, he was born that way.

Hey, OP said to use whatever system we wanted

>when
During the golden age when he is placed the captain of the rearguard for one, but again all of this has to do with warfare. A good athlete is not neccessarily a good student, so no. I don't know what definition of wisdom you are clinging to like a wounded bitch, but intelligence in dnd is related to learning, reasoning, analyzing information, and retaining it. He is not retarded, so he cannot have low int, and he is clearly a much faster learner than the average shithead, so he must have high intelligence. Also stop emptying the fucking salt mines, he has low dex.

Why... why would someone even start to think of drawing that?
And why am I so aroused?

>Jumping through this many mental gymnastics

Making predictions is an act of intelligence, not wisdom.

You can predict things through wisdom.

For example, a grizzled veteran could predict the flow of battle through the wisdom of having spent all of his life on the battlefield by subconsciously calling upon his past experiences. He might not even realize he's doing it, but he is calling upon his own wisdom to predict the flow of battle, because he's seen it a hundred times.

Anyway, I'm off. Enjoy being wrong and retarded without me.

That's recalling information, which is a function of memory, which is explicitly also defined as intelligence in dnd. Wizards need to remember shit in the vancian casting system, hence they have high intelligence, not fucking wisdom "subconsciously", "past" "flow", kek/10 good night user

iirc he was shown reading a book when he was in griffith's room while receiving orders to assassinate the ptince of midland.

He read that sex book griffith gave him.

>reading porn
well if he did read anything in his life, that would be the right choice.

>Can swing a sword faster than the eye can track
>Casually catches thrown ring blades, one on the handle of his sword and one with his working hand, while both were coming from unexpected and opposite sides. (Circus Arabian turban guy)
>6 DEX
Explain.

>can't catch someone falling off a boat
>20 Dex
Explain.

Here, I made this in 5 minutes.

As to how accurate it is, i dont know.

He rolled a 1.

So Medium to high dex then, since there isn't two separate things for dexterity in and out of combat.

He had disadvantage on the die roll and rolled a 3 on one of them. Just because you have a +5 to DEX doesn't mean you will always make the roll %100 of the time. That's like saying because a math genius got a calculus problem wrong after getting the previous 30 right he's a 8 INT dweeb.

Wouldn't catching someone be a strength check?

That's blank for me.

he jumps from demon to demon with the power of that berserker armor tho user

It wasn't that he couldn't keep them up, it was that he literately could not close his hand.

With the other one though he's caught arrows with his bare hand and thrown multiple knives with pin-point accuracy. So basically this entire conversation boils down to:
>He has an extremely high dexterity
>But a low dexterity with his robot hand.

Losing an eye only affects depth perception for a few months retard. The brain adapts.

The brain can adapt up stereopsis though, you lose that ability permanently.

Yeah, no. You can get better at knowing what is closer and further, but you never get depth perception back, since we only have that because of the location of our TWO eyes.

NOT DURING THE ECLIPSE HE DIDNT

The armor probably does boost his dex as apposed to the usual dex penalty armor usually brings though

The armor 100% definitely does boost dex, since it actually gives him control of the fingers, which he doesn't have otherwise.

>20 str (+5)
>Proficiency +4

Attack bonus should be +9
Damage should be 2d6 + 5 (2d6+7 when raging)
If he was a variant human he should have had a fifth proficiency

Götz von Berlichingen would like a word with all of you.

whoops. correcting now.

and done.

He slew 100 men without magical shit. I mean he still got fucked up, but killing 100 guys in combat and surviving requires a good amount of dexterity.

And I'd argue that Guts has become much less edgy since the Manga has progressed. He was definitely an edgelord at the start but now his edgyness has been toned it down quite a bit.

3.P suggestion here, he's probably a zweihander sentinel warder from Path of War,

VMC Barbarian for whatever and get rage. Maybe if we're open for a little house ruling, let him take whirling frenzy from unearthed arcana (3.5e).

Given he's a hero type main character, give him a 32 point buy of saaaay: 18STR,14DEX,16CON,14INT,12WIS,10CHA,

Also, has a social draw back and an unlucky drawback for I dunno, an extra feat, for the Dragonslayer?

I'm too lazy to do all the skills and carrying capacity and really Dragonslayer and the armor should be magical items but I'm tired.

- Attributes -
ST: 25
HP: 30
DX: 13
IQ: 11
Perception: 9
Willpower: 16
HT: 20

- Advantages -
Hard To Subdue 5
Hard To Kill 5
Danger Sense
Contact (Skill 21, Fairly Often, Completely Reliable)

- Disadvantages -
Berserk
Bloodlust
Weirdness Magnet
One Eye
One Arm (Prosthetic)

Yeah, ever since the deal with Casca at the Tower of Retribution arc, he's mellowed out a lot and learned how to trust people again. He still fucking hates demons, though, and is more than willing to go berserk against particularly nasty or intelligent ones.

Maxed STR
Very high DEX, CON, WIS
Above average INT and CHA

A lot of penalties, because missing eye, arm and all that curse stuff.

Guts perception is way higher than 9. He regularly notices that something is "off" and he's almost never taken fully by surprise. I'd also personally put his IQ as a bit higher, he often comes up with ingenious and "outside the box" solutions to beating dangerous foes. He might not be a learned man, but he has excellent mental flexibility.

I'd also argue that his "Berserk" status is bound to his berserker armor gadget. When Guts just "regularly" loses himself he doesn't stop defending himself. Though this might be a defect in the design of the berserk disadvantage in GURPS (it's admittedly derpy) and not in how "berserking" is portrayed in Berserk.

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He's clever, I'll give you that, but he's no genius. I'd say 12 IQ is reasonable for him - definitely a step above the rest, but not Einstein either.

I gave him 9 Perception since, after he got the armor and used it a couple times his senses started to dull - perhaps him noticing things that are off is just Danger Sense kicking in. Maybe just having Perception be equal to IQ would be more apt.