I have to pretend to be excited for my local players and online but honestly I'm kind of worried about Trolls. It took so freaking long for them to get anywhere near competitive and that was with two really stupid theme lists.
Stuff is looking ok so far but not great, at least we sound better than Skorne but I'm not looking forward to being at the bottom of the rankings again like we were at the beginning of Mk2.
Hopefully things work out
Angel Rodriguez
Anything on Man o War point costs for Shock Troopers, Demo Corps, and Bombadeers?
Did any of the units really change? Hoping Demo Corps can be as awesome as they were in MK1.
Liam Jenkins
Mortenebra cards when?
Robert Stewart
I would love to know butcher 1,2,3 spells.
Levi Morales
From Jay Larsen's comments, Trolls are in a good place. His plan is to pick the top faction for Mk3 at the start, and his short list is Cygnar, Khador, and Trolls.
Carter Watson
I'm still loving the changes. Looking at the whole thing as a new game instead of just a big errata makes all the nerfs very bearable.
I just wish the infinite whining would stop.
Chase Bennett
Stop begging for spoilers, it's pathetic
Joseph Brown
That's cool. It hurts to lose Burrowers, Mulg and the Earthborn right off the bat but I'm hoping there's some good stuff in there somewhere since there have been no changes to the crapy stuff no one was ever going to play.
Elijah Brown
Can the Avatar be empowered? If so thats a pretty big buff in itself. If not its going to be hard to justify it
Joshua Young
Hello, Hungerford.
Brody Davis
Does Empower say "Allocate a jack a focus", if yes, then according to Mk2, then no it wouldn't. Avatar is pretty shit on the principle that you can't spend warjack points on it anyways. Toss random focus on top of that, it's just a pretty paperweight Shitty meme
Henry Mitchell
Sounds like MK3 is gonna be CRAZYMACHINE.
Camden Diaz
If I were Hungerford you would have been drowned in a sea of murderous bees by now.
Hungerfords trolling in the Skorne Facebook page has been amazing though
Chase Anderson
It's "gain" not "allocate". Should work.
Dominic Fisher
then that helps the thing's case quite a bit
Nathaniel Rivera
So what I'm hearing is that the avatar is going to have 4 focus every turn. Praise be to Menoth!
Adam Thompson
Why? Let them beg. Does it offend you that much?
Jaxon Wright
Now all it needs is a rule to let it count for warjack points.
Kevin Moore
If it's not good enough to be taken past Warjack points, then its not good enough.
Joseph Perez
After seeing Ret's new caster I'm pretty excited.
Having her nudge my jacks into position is gonna be pretty sweet. Also Deceleration is gonna be pretty nice with my Discordia n Halberdiers set up. Fuck your shooting.
Here's hoping Destors kept Quick Work and got a cost reduction.
Also here's hoping Ghost Snipers kept all their shit.
Liam Watson
"Any word on:
Makeda3 and her girls. Keltarii Zaadesh Beast packs, mostly scarabs though
1. She and her ladies are as spoiled. Which is still very nice. 2. same. 3. Sac pawn now instead of his old rule which leads me too... 4. They are bugs, they now have Carapace along with some small stat changes. "
Ryder Gutierrez
More on Makeda3:
"She abandoned sun hammer for a spell that's actually useful. Upkeep that grants overtake and grievous wounds to a model. She also has points to take beasts with now.
Highest WB/WJ score I've seen so far is 32 and it's not on who you'd think."
Michael Sanders
Refuling shields with Helynna is gonna be a ton of fun with Colossals under Deceleration. I wanna try running a Helios and a Hyperion with her.
Connor Perry
I think someone stated Rasheth is still mostly the same, which is actually kind of a bummer if true. I feel like he is close but certain thing hold him back, living on 1, Dark Rituals once per turn ect.
Ryder Hill
The changes listed are feat effects anything, his spell now stops all channeling, Impervious now applies to everything, and his arcing thing is FF now.
Camden Powell
Any news on the Butchers or Assault Kommandos?
Angel Sanders
Any news on Amon's spell list?
Cooper Collins
I really want to know about Stryker2
Kevin Hughes
See
Zachary Bell
If that's the case that solves most of my issues....FF on Dark Rituals and still being One per turn is sad, and no weapon to get exta movement sucks, but Feat is what I wanted, Castiagte change is nice and might see more use, impervious is nice..but I feel like he will still fold to attacks like it's nothing
Anthony White
Rhyas1 info? more X2 info?
David White
Die, preferably in a fire.
Cameron Price
Should I make a Gator army based with sky scrapers and shit so it looks like Godzilla?
Leo Bennett
No. Fuck off. Spoilers for next edition aren't off topic and you don't own the general.
Eli Reed
Yes. Sounds great but hard to do.
Alexander Powell
But hey, thanks for that
Aaron Flores
Do you even have to freaking ask?
What are you going to use for King Kong? Take Rorsh and Brine (generalist minions) and give Brine a tiny plane and doll?
Caleb Harris
Someone got up on the wrong foot this morning
Andrew Hill
Is augery still on old witch?
Oliver Kelly
No, but 300 posts of "GIEV SPOILERS I SUK UR COK" wears really thin really quickly.
Hunter Brown
You must be a liberal
Camden Perez
At this rate she probably has field marshall:future sight.
Juan Perez
Wicked burn, bro.
Cameron Barnes
Field marshal Apparition is what I see.
Tyler Wood
Gorax
Levi Miller
Ded gaem ded thred
Brandon Moore
Old Witch supposedly still has Augery, but the wording has changed a bit. I believe it gives hunter and another thing. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Jeremiah Murphy
Bad because I play Skorne.
Justin Baker
Fuck King Kong..
Fuck you nigger, I'm torn between Circle and Minions. I REALLY want the new Circle battlebox but I don't like Circles infantry, you're temping the shit out of me here..
Nolan Wright
Can't circle take gatormen? Just play both silly.
Angel Russell
Can't take the Gator beasts which is who will get skyscrapers and shit.
Christian Stewart
Last thread a leaker said Weald Secrets gave Pathfinder and Hunter, is that what you're thinking of?
I'm surprised at the lack of questions about certain casters like Old Witch, Rhyas, Mohsar etc. The popular but competitivly weak ones. Thought people would want to know if they were better.
Camden Long
Thats good news, I was also worried I feel you muh nigga. Dont' forget we lost the ability to put damage buffing animi on non-warbeasts. I have no idea why you'd bring an elemental troll from whats been spoiled so far. I have faith though.
fuck yes
Carter Carter
Take Wrongeye and Snajaw. Problem solved.
Jacob Young
what factions do you play, not just own but actually play?
Pyre/Slag could be good for casters that want the melee damage buff. It's self only, but it isn't restricted to warbeasts only like Rage now.
Storm Trolls could still be really good, especially if they got a RNG/RAT buff like the Pyre did according to the insider.
I think a lot of it is going to come down to the cost of the Bomber. Bombers + a Mauler can be pretty insane in terms of ranged and then melee potential. Plus stuff like Highwaymen, Braylen, and Fire Eaters should still be good.
Also FA2 on Longriders should be bonkers with Grissel1 since the PP Insider thread implied she kept Hoof It.
Ian James
It's better on Imperatus, who can just refill his shield TWICE for a total of 24 extra boxes
Jayden Torres
Oh shit finally, thanks OP.
Colton Rodriguez
Might solve it yes, but I like the Gator warlocks and Circle may not support mercs at all.
Samuel Peterson
No Insider today?
Michael Sullivan
>Find a unit of Flameguard Cleansers and UA for 30 bucks on ebay >Bought them as a painting project >Read the Insider now
Holy balls they look amazing now. 18" assault sprays for a turn sounds bonkers. And now they can jam decently with Ashen Veil and aren't armed with butter knives. I'm tempted to see if I can find another unit and UA for the Journeyman league my shop is hosting. Feat with Malekus and two units of those guys to set the world on fire.
David Cook
Check the archive
Hudson Morris
Malekus is... good.
He's going to be crazy once the Revelator actually gets released.
Austin Myers
...
Christian Long
I hadn't even considered that. Oh man, Feat, his pseudo-ancillary spell and that seems crazy. Three Pow 17s with two at 4 dice and one at three dice? Just gotta hope they're not immune to fire.
>And, of course, having a tremendous earthquake set off across the skorne’s western fortresses right when they were in the middle of invading Ios wasn’t great timing as far as they are concerned. But they are a people who draw strength from suffering, so I doubt they’ll be set back too much.
Jayden Baker
Story Insider: We moved the story ahead 2 years like we said a couple of months ago. It is going to give us a lot of space to write new stuff. See you on Monday!
Man. What?
Dylan Walker
>Nerf our mediocre beasts >Nerf our best casters >Shit on us in the fluff FUCK
William Perez
It's Friday man, people don't want to have to work any harder than necessary
Jacob Sanchez
she has field marshal[apparition] Weald secrets now just pathfinder and hunter
old witch no longer has augery.
Chase Baker
New Rasheezy from Facebook rumor looks pretty dope.
Evan Brooks
>Most expensive warlock is the best warlock What is this, Magic?
Carter Lopez
Can you post it here please?
Henry Gonzalez
Field Marshal: Apparition = 2" move at the beginning of your activation, right?
Lucas Hall
Xerxis2 is the most expensive Skorne Warlock. He's still meh
Anthony King
Place 2", but yes.
Michael Stewart
Isn't Xerxis2 being buffed as well?
Logan Howard
Mostly unchanged
Nicholas Morales
Also, no fluff for cryx ever!
Angel Ortiz
All the Facebook rumors were posted at the tail end of the last general.
Jacob Rodriguez
Suckers. :P They did mention how your leader got his ass kicked a little bit. ;)
Place completely within 2", gotcha. Hm. Well, that's not bad for something that is basically free. I'm sure it will just make Scrapjack that much more of a nuisance.
Eli Sullivan
We knew this was happening. Get in by deus ex, get kicked out by deus ex. The circle is complete.
Kayden Cruz
I feel you.
On a kinda related note I was just about to buy the new pGrissel model when the MMM nerf came out. Here's hoping she's good again cause that model is amazing.
Also the new Rok model is pretty good. Borka was the caster that drew me to trolls and he remained my Shits and Giggles caster for most of MK2. If Borka's still alright, I think stumbling drunk Rok good be top kek.
Lincoln Martinez
Any word on her feat/spell list? Especially now that Iron Flesh is gone.
John Watson
avatar of slaughter gallows iron flesh (which is now +2arm and no blast dmg) murder of crows unseen path weald secrets (which is pathfinder and hunter)
Lucas Morales
>2 of those spells are the exact names of Magic cards
Kayden Bennett
Iron Flesh works on Jacks? Because my little bro will love his Armor 23 Behemoth with the new powerful shot
Jose Jackson
Butthurt that PP are going the way of GW.
Anthony Young
Target friendly Faction warrior model/unit gains +2 ARM and does not suffer blast damage. Models are not affected while out of formation.
Josiah Wilson
My god if Skorne had that. >Muh 23ARM Cetrati >Oh you killed some? Guess I'll revive them LOL
Christopher Carter
unintelligent post of the thread right here
Bentley Price
>Well, that's not bad for something that is basically free
"Not bad"? Motherfucker, that's basically +2" move for all your fucking jacks. Your heavies are basically all SPD 6 or SPD 5 (depending on if you're charging/walking or running). Not to mention the ability to disengage shit and change up positioning to open up new charge lanes and shit.
FOR FREE. That's fucking amazing.
It's so amazing that if is lying I will be filled with so much hate that its volume will only be matched by its impotence.