Could a fighter jet take out a dragon?

Fighter Jet, easily.

Yes, but at the same time the Feuerschwinge and other dragons took literally months to kill with conventional arms.

>LN
>Lakenheath.

Dear GIs, this kinda shit is why Europe still hates you.

Dragons dead. Before it even knows it's under attack. Unless it happens to have castes divination, then it might have a chance to hide, or possibly cast a save or else spell

Yeah.

I'd like to think that that dragon is just being escorted by the two fighters, all three on their way to battle.

A MiG-29 Fulcrum? Would annihilate dragon.

An F-15? Would slash the dragon with Stingers.

Dragons can stop and turn on a dive, but are not known to break the sound barrier on a frequent basis, or have thermal-sensing missiles.

are dragons warm-blooded though?

>the dragon uses spurts of flame breath as flares to dodge missiles

Yes, but the world's already been infected with magic so it might be a bad idea in the long run.

Big D had his own machinations there. Some dragons like said have survived huge bombardments. Dunkie allowed himself to die, as a plot point.

That's actually interesting

>Not wanting a +5 Holy SU27 of Chaotic kebab removal

Fucks sake man!

>this fails because modern missiles do not fall for flares, the dragon is mortally wounded and evacuates its bowels in pain and terror seconds before being smashed to a bloodsmear on the rocks below.

Assuming this is a mature dragon from D&D, would it be able to cast Magic Missile fast enough that it could hit the jet?
The range would be so ridiculously short in comparison to how fast a jet moves, so let's assume that the dragon does have the time to get some buffs up.
Things like Haste, Clairvoyance (to actually see the jet coming), Major Image (to create a radar and thermal return that's exactly the same as the dragon itself).

Fuck both of you in particular.

>remove evil.jpg
I see what you did there.

There's usually very little hint that it is coming.

The best way to discuss this is, could all your doodads and gobbly speak stop the 'Locate City Nuke's spell?

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>implying Britbongs don't joyride through the Mach Loop themselves.

How much hurt can be put on depends on the plane and the dragon, but generally no dragon can compete with a fighter jets range and speed. Unless the dragon can literally tank the planes entire arsenal it's pretty much screwed.

I'm sure that will help with everybody starts turning into salt.

Not sarcasm, that's the sort of thing you'd want to use against salt zombie abominations.

Ok so your average dragon jobs to fighter jets, what kind of dragon would it take to come out victorious?

I'm going to go with caster dragons - unless the fighers are magic too.

A fighter jet? Hell no. Fighter jets are horribly underpowered and ill-equipped for the job of facing dragons.

You want a wizard jet for that.

The retardedly magic ones or the retardedly huge ones.

I'd say OP has his answer by now, but I wonder how well missiles would track a dragon. I assume a heat seeker would have trouble locking onto a dragon that wasn't breathing fire constantly, but would radar tracking based missiles find one easily enough?

America had a 250kt A2A missile back in the day
they even designed a 0.25kt missile for the YF-12 which was the interceptor version of the A-12 which was the predecessor of the SR-71

control theory bro.
missiles do not follow the flares because they have a notch filter in the spectral lines of the flare's radiation. same thing can happen for dragon fire. notch filter whatever is burning, and continue on searching for the dragon.
dead dragon.

and if its a radar guided missile, the flare just fucking fails.

anyway, the dragon is butt fucked. dragons cannot do anything in BVR fighting. fighter detects dragon on radar god knows how far away, and launchs a missile from 30 miles away. missile travels at mach 4, 4504 fps.how fast do dragons fly? 250 feet every 6 seconds? 41 fps.

dragon would be dead before it even knew it was under attack

>but would radar tracking based missiles find one easily enough
I guess that would depend on the radar absorption of the scales, but generally I think the radar tracking would work.

medium jej

>modern jet wan
How late a jet would a dragon stand a fair change against?

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>dragons cannot do anything in BVR fighting
Dragons don't know divination spells?

RAM Dragon

The odds would be against it using WWII tech, and it'd get dunked on by a Messershit.

>Shadowrun dragons
>Stronger than DnD dragons

All of my what user?

>Yes, but at the same time the Feuerschwinge and other dragons took literally months to kill with conventional arms.

Gets shit blown out of it pretty much instantly as soon as the conventional military brings its might to bear.

Took literally months to kill with conventional arms.

That didnt happen, firewing was a bitch to track down but as soon as she was she got melted easily.

>Feuerschwinge

Even in the dragon fall ending where she resurrects and goes ape shit shes shot down rampaging over Berlin.

It does not and did not take months of conventional arms to take her down, quite the opposite.

Just going to leave this here
youtu.be/67RpQFOjchw

>Could a fighter jet take out a dragon?
Even your average guy with a sword can take out a dragon what's the point of using modern technology?

amazing. the Japanese managed to make a fight between jets and a dragon boring

Fuck that, even women in skimpy armored bikinis can take out a dragon with a sword.

You know what, FUCK EVEN THAT, even little girls expensive in gothic clothes can take out a dragon with just a sword without even ruining their expensive dresses.

Half a dozen 'normal humans' can take down a 100ft daemon king who can destroy entire cities plus their armies.

Then you have Reign of Fire where Drgons brought about the end of all civilisation yet can be taken down by infantry.

They're as strong as they need to be. That includes being so weak they can get taken down by a salvo of automatic fire if that's what the author's going for.

Antitank Rockets can penetrate around 10 inches of steel.
Unless dragons have some kind of plot armor, they're dead meat.
Use pic related for extra irony.

So if a Fighter Jet carries Anti Tank missiles and manages to hit the dragon, it's dead meat.

Of course, a goddamn Zero can.

It sort of went wrong there. Turns out they were kind of better off not shooting the dragon.

The world wouldn't have been messed up by the presence of that giant thing the Dragon was fighting anyway?

youtube.com/watch?v=IDZaKkl5TwQ

>all that cheap CG
People actually watched this?

I mainly watched it because I needed something to watch, and I have already read the manga for the show

Dnd dragons can be killed with men, with swords and fire and lightning.

There have been zero confirmed dragon kills in Shadowrun; The only one that might count was quite possibly suicide, and there's still no proof it actually managed, since there was a dragon before and after the attack; jury still out if it was the same one, a successor or a convenient faker.

Also, it required a cruise missile, which may have been magically augmented.

Shadowrun Dragons are only weaker than BS planar dragons, which isn't a fair comparison.

It seems op has his answer now
On a related note, could an army with WW1/WW2 tech kill a dragon?

>wizard squadron reporting in

see

WW1 tech, debatable to doubtful. AA guns just weren't that powerful and mobile artillery wasn't very prevalent. They might have had luck if they could get in artillery range of its lair and gas it though? Zepps would have been toast though.

WW2 tech, possible to likely. They were mounting anti-tank rockets and cannons on heavy fighters, tanks were more reliable and prevalent. Not to mention the AA batteries on late-war battleships and cruisers were very heavy and reasonably accurate with pretty high ceilings.

And don't forget, nukes are technically WW2 technology if all else fails.

It's from a 2003 game from a no-name studio (at the time), what did you expect?

>not posting the ending
youtu.be/6OPW-RdzStA?t=292

A couple of rednecks with a pickup truck and some rifles could probably slay a dragon with minimal risk to themselves given that in a lot of fiction a single guy with a sword and a suit of armor can kill one.

Well, no GREATER dragons have been killed. Lesser dragons have been killed, and they are nothing to sneeze at.

Average guys with swords can't kill dragons. That's why dragon slayers are heroes and saints held in high regard by all. Even Beowulf couldn't slay the dragon on his own.

>tfw toyota war fighters could take down a dragon
>tfw what a setting

that's an entire heap of dead dragons right there.

But what if the fighter jet IS the dragon?

Then you make fun of its intakes.

You go in the jet, jet goes in the sky, you go in the sky. Dragon's in the sky, our dragon.
youtube.com/watch?v=GVmeeYwEiQw

Because they are used as vital plot points by the developers of the game and made unkillable on purpose. In reality every reputable government would have developed a gun capable of tracking down a dragon and killing him because humans do anything to stay on top. The space laser didn't properly work so there sure has to be one up there with at least 10 times the power that can't be fired remotely.

I would think so. The fighter jet has longer-ranged weapons than the dragon.

Now I want to play a game with early-20th-century aircraft fighting dragons in the air.

In Beowulf's defense he was aged as all fuck and tired. If he was younger he probably could take the dragon.

He wasn't just an average guy, though.

youtube.com/watch?v=kZovVnSGzXo

dont make fun of her beautiful intakes you fuck

I'm bullying ur waifu and u can't stop me

I could see it happening in a setting like Temeraire. Jets would be needed for air superiority, but for low end roles like observation and CAS the dragons would be more cost effective once they have fighter cover.

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Less expensive than a warthog, surely, but with the focus shifting to more affordable airframes..

You can take them out with a Mitsubishi Zero.

>dragon has heart
Not in my setting.
Checkmate, atheist.

>Depends on the setting.
God forbid we talk about Rifts dragons.

>Plot twist, it's an anima fighter jet

The dragons in my setting are small enough to pilot jet fighters.

So, yes.

Green leader of lightning mages reporting. Over.

With dragons, they could afford to run an air force on an 18th century logistical chain. You couldn't do that with planes.

That really depends on how much the dragon needs to intake and how often it needs to rest. The main advantage I see is that it doesn't need an airstrip.

>The main advantage I see is that it doesn't need an airstrip
It kinda still does depending on the side.

The key point is that the agricultural revolution was still going on and canned food hadn't been invented yet. Relatively speaking, they can't have been that expensive to feed.

How would Radar and Invisibility spells interact anyway?

Would the Invisibility spell render the Radar unable to detect the Dragon?

Dragons are Magic. Only Magic can defeat Magic.

Dragon will win because missile comes in and Dragon says No and missile magically fails because Magic

It depends on how the invisibility spell works in regards to whether it affects all electromagnetic radiation or just the visible spectrum.

Can see something using the invisible spell with infravision? That'd be how you'd work that out.

If not then presumably heatseekers would have problems as well?

What now?

That depends on how your infravision works, senpai. Newer versions just call it darkvision so the whole infrared confusion is gone completely.