Hitler was Lawful Neutral. Prove me wrong.
Hitler was Lawful Neutral. Prove me wrong
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He committed genocide.
I bet there were laws in nazi germany that allowed genocide.
That covers the lawful part.
But genocide is not a neutral action, by any definition of the word neutral.
Attempting to be clever and subversive, and failing drastically.
He's a politician so by default he's Lawful Evil.
He was a chaotic neutral who hung around a lot of NE/LE people, then a combination of their pressure, his power trip, and crotch rot eating his brain made him slip to some form of evil
Nigger, that wasn't an argument against the lawful component of his alignment.
Probably Lawful Evil.
He murdered millions of people but he did it properly, with laws, procedures, etc...
>Genocide orkish raiders who you think are uncivilized savages intending to rape and kill your villagers
That's A-okay and is in fact the duty of every lawful good paladin
>Genocide Jewish bankers who you think are trying to undermine the social and moral fabrics of your civilization while aiding a foreign power
This is bad because reasons and it's the duty of everyone ever to remember that Hitler was the most evil guy ever and in fact far worse than Stalin despite killing 1/3 as many people
>But genocide is not a neutral action
indeed, it can be Lawful if done upon Kender, Gnomes or gypsies
Its almost forty years we as roleplay society genocide orcs, goblins and undead still some of us consider themselves as good.
>Genocide Jewish bankers who you think are trying to undermine the social and moral fabrics of your civilization while aiding a foreign power
Next you'll try to downplay the number of how many Jews he gassed.
undead are not a race or enticity
Still its a nation in many settings.
>in many settings
Name 10 that aren't RTS settings.
>aren't RTS settings.
HOMM counts as 3?
That is true, but it's still up to debate whether (re)killing them en-masse can be considered genocide. And I'm talking some serious legal / philosophical debate.
The jews themselves only claim 5.1 million, but those numbers are iffy at best. Besides, it wasn't just banks that they ran. The jews were the first to promote homosexuality through film, undermine German values in local government (and also film, no surprise) and don't forget the Jewish communist revolution that was put down in 1918.
Now, I don't doubt that something like the holocaust occured. We can see the death camps, but there are some more questions about it worth asking. Like why was the Auschwitz smoke stack only built after the war, why would the Germans bury dead jews next to their only water supply, how do you burn hundreds of thousands of bodies in a few months, how do people die of inhaling diesel fumes that are mostly oxygen (in some camps). If the holocaust did happen, it was hardly the worst genocide, but we'll never stop hearing about it since jews control the media, if it didn't happen maybe it should.
Warcraft (W3 / WoW era)
More like 6 or 7 now.
I didn't say they were actually doing it (although to be fair to Mr. Hitler, 8 out of 9 Spartacist leaders were Jewish, as were the majority of the KPD leadership). I said he thought they were. In the same way that a LG character is expected to assume that the Ork raiders are chaotic, sadistic murderers rather than noble savages fleeing from a greater evil in their own homelands or whatever.
In D&D terms genocide =/= evil, it depends who is being genocided. Genociding evil things is good, since the evil things are inherently evil and must be destroyed.
*Casting protection from /pol/
Fuck off. I can't believe that pieces of shit like you exist in this world.
>Besides, it wasn't just banks that they ran. The jews were the first to promote homosexuality through film, undermine German values in local government (and also film, no surprise) and don't forget the Jewish communist revolution that was put down in 1918.
Yeah, right.
It's 2016!
COME ON!
5-7 same setting.
2-3 same setting. Also M&M setting
4 - setting of 2-3 but different planet and everything different
1 - weird setting not connected to everything M&M was about but carry some of its names.
Great rebuttal. You sure showed him.
I want /pol/ to leave.
Hitler was NE. He subverted government and staged a rebellion to try and seize power, exploited a weak chancellory to gain it then after seizijg it murdered all of his political rivals to consolidate. Then he waged an aggressive was purely to avenge perceived slights, occupied much of western Europe by force, then betrayed his ally Russia with a pre-emptive attack.
Even if you do the whole hurr durr jews were orkszzz shit Hitler still betrayed his allies and murdered his rivals in cold blood simply to not have competition. He also enslaved native Germans to work on the autobahn, not just jews or prisoners but lower class workers. /Pol/ pls go
I'm sorry that conversation is harmful to xir. I'll go check my straight wh*te privilege and go read some feminist literature over a glass of fair trade coffee.
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Get ready for the wall, folks!
>if it didn't happen maybe it should.
>advocating genocide
You were almost not a 500% edgelord, almost.
Better luck next time.
Basically is genocide evil?
Murder is evil, but in selfdefense its not.
So if i mass murder is self defense its evil?
What if a win in self defense war and enslave my enemy? Slavery is less evil then genocide?
>how do people die of inhaling diesel fumes
Why do everyone only care about the Jews? The Nazis also killed cripples, faggots, communists, republicans...
>en.wikipedia.org
>CTRL+F "jew": 0 results
>CTRL+F "hebrew": 0 results
>CTRL+F "semite": 0 results
>CTRL+F "semitic": 0 results
Try again, /pol/tard.
>Hitler thread
>people seem to be surprised it's /pol/ territory
Just sage and move on m8s
>Not knowing about Weimar-era filmmaking in the Berlin scene
kek
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You know the jokes about how Jews are over represented in US cinema and television? Compared to the Weimar that is nothing
Regarding the Jewish Communists;
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No one feel sorry about them.
Most undead aren't sapient and are by definition already dead. Orcs and goblins are inexcusable though. Orcs are alright, and goblins are for sexual.
Makes sense.
>en.wikipedia.org
>CTRL+F "jew": 0 results
>CTRL+F "hebrew": 0 results
>CTRL+F "semite": 0 results
>CTRL+F "semitic": 0 results
Looks like you don't have any proof.
He tried to violently usurp a legitimate German government, succeeded on his second attempt, then used the military to annex Austria and 'less relevant' neighboring nations. As a Chancellor, he tore down anything that stood in the way of his personal power, and set up his cronies in high places regardless of their capabilities. He made his shitty book compulsory reading then freed himself from income tax. He instituted industrial slaughter of entire populations purely on the basis of an ideology based largely on his personal dislikes. He lived through the horrors of WWI but repeated, step by step, every single mistake Germany did that led to it, then when the world mobilized against him he went all out, igniting the bloodiest conflict in human history. Because it was a means to his ends and he didn't give a fuck who had to pay the price as long as it wasn't him. Hitler was NE.
This ffs, plus his betrayed of the Russians. The Holocaust was almost irrelevant to him being NE
The Jews are immaterial to this discussion
He was either Lawful Evil or Gygax Lawful Good. A paladin of Gygax-style lawful good
Shit, /pol/'s leaking out again.
I'm sorry, what I meant to say is /pol/ is leaking out shit again.
You're right. "Good" and "Evil" are not aplicable for real people
>I can't do bare minimum research, such as clicking a single link on a wikipedia page because as an arrogant liberal in the current year I need only listen to my communist college professors!
This isn't fucking difficult.
Killing someone who is an immediate threat to you is not inherently evil.
That does not however suddenly apply the logic in such a fashion that enslaving people is not evil.
You won the war, presumably dismantled their military such that they do not pose a threat. That isn't evil, and then you enslave and or genocide them, those parts are evil.
How are people this retarded.
>1 jew
You stupid, lazy, condescending fucking retard.
Wiki's shitty list of prominent Spartacists:
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Jewish
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Not immediately clear if he is Jewish
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Jewish
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Jewish
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Not immediately clear if Jewish
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Jewish lover, possibly Jewish
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Doesn't say it on the Wiki, but Jewish
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Not Jewish, en.wikipedia.org
Jewish
etc
The list would have more Jews on it if I bothered using google for sources :^)
The Holocaust isn't irrelevant. Just the most transparent example of his Evil.
Rounding people up for mass slaughter is almost always seen as immoral, even in pre-modern societies. Sure "the Mongols did it too, moralfag" is true, but people were generally terrified of them and hated them for it.
>slavic communist dictator having an alliance with a german dictator who sent communists to death camps and talked about the extermination of lesser races like slavs to make space for german settlers
Both Hitler and Stalin knew the alliance was just temporary. Hitler wanted his back safe while he deals with Europe and counted on Stalin not getting USSR ready for war before the Wehrmacht turned east.
>Just make the point about bare minimum research
>This nigga expecting me to list every commie jew fuck in Germany
Well gee fella, I didn't know that if I didn't present my entire case to you in a thread on a chinese cartoon forum that history was invalid, it's not like you could have a little agency and do the research yourself since you're so salty and butthurt about it.
Sometimes, one Jew is all it takes...
>Both Hitler and Stalin knew the alliance was just temporary
Irrelevant. Betrayed an ally, still chaotic, still evil
>This nigga expecting me to list every commie jew fuck in Germany
Yeah, I fucking expect you to list every commie jew fuck in Germany you stupid fucking wigger. You're the one trying to do the convincing here, so you do the fucking legwork.
What if war is between two races and one feeds on another. You cant let your opponent live, keep as slaves and feed them your criminals at most.