What is the likelihood that SJW Cancer will kill Tabletop communities and conventions? It is already spreading, and more and more I see the mentality of shutting down perfectly normal speech on Veeky Forums or directing people to go to /pol/ over benign statements.
I would like to think that the TT community will reject this shit as much as gamers did, but I've known too many neckbearded pussybeggars in real life to believe that many won't just roll over and take it.
Zero, you dumb motherfucker.
Zero since nobody is going to play with those people or buy the shitty products created to pander to them.
What about this threatens you so much?
>trips of truth
Good luck squeezing money from this stone.
Might introduce a few new people to it, but whether they are good role players is another matter.
Imagine being afraid of vaginas.
Eh, american problem
In europe i still have to meet a feminist or a sjw. Our biggest concern are damn vegans
Shit, imagine being afraid of talking to a woman, convinced they'll call you a sexist pig or a rapist.
They are kind of gross to look at.
Hey man, do you know how many spiders those things can hold?
I think it will heavily vary from community to community. Suits who pull strings within companies will of course try to milk the current trends for all they can. Perhaps there will be some 90's GRRRRRLLL POWAH shit or something.
The only example of SJW drama I've ever heard of was over Larp. People were claiming that the Drow were racist interpretations of African and middle eastern minstrels who were forced to perform for white masters.
Apparently it caused a big stir in American larp communities, but here in the UK, it was quickly dismissed as bullshit and needless drama.
Checked and truth.
People don't usually invest time or money in that which they hate.
I don't think she knows what terrorism means.
Like literally has not read what the definition is.
I'm almost convinced that this thread was just SJW falseflagging, all just so you could tart spamming this link again.
Pretty sure it's a troll.
Oh boy, this again. 300 Posts, endless arguing and the same old fucking story follows.
Of course it is.
He even made two threads for it.
Yes. Yes we do.
I mean, you act like the arguments aren't fun and exciting.
>tabletop communities
Not high since it's a decentralized hobby there are places like Veeky Forums and theRPGsite where they're not welcome.
>conventions
I know Hasbro has trademarked Hasbrocon.
But really who cares. Conventions are primarily for posers, marketers and murricans.
>What is the likelihood that SJW Cancer will walk into my dining room and ruin my game?
Pretty much nil, since my group is pretty solid and we all know each other's opinions on topics like this fairly well. It's really not that hard to simply agree amongst yourselves not to bring up argumentative topics during game time.
>I would like to think that the TT community will reject this shit as much as gamers did, but I've known too many neckbearded pussybeggars in real life to believe that many won't just roll over and take it.
There's plenty of those in video games too. Just yesterday I was playing Black Ops 2 and the moment a chick turned on her mic, two guys decided to be her dedicated backup buddies and cover her while she sniped.
It actually worked pretty well, since she was a decent shot, one guy brought a shield, and both took shocks and claymores. Whole damn building was a fortress. But I digress.
The TT community is naturally compartmentalized by play groups, which makes it very resistant to sweeping change. Chill out and handle it when it becomes an issue instead of stirring shit over hypotheticals.
As a man who is afraid of both monsters and women the idea of women playing monsters, possibly even women monsters is spooky enough to give me a mild heart attack
>Suits who pull strings within companies will of course try to milk the current trends for all they can
There's not even any money to milk, because SJWs are a tiny minority, and they don't actually spend much money on the mediums they complain about. The moment suits start to pick up on the fact that SJWs are an unprecedentedly vocal minority, due to their groundbreaking use of social media as a platform for getting their voices heard, they'll drop 'em like it's hot. Not that there's ever been much suit support of SJW products or anything, it's just that these faggot-ass cunts from /r9k/ or /tv/ or /pol/ or wherever have absolutely no perspective and are massively triggered by minor and mostly inconsequential pandering.
We will never again get the likes of C1 from tournaments.
cant wait till we start stoning whores to death in public 2bh kaffir
Stop making these threads, Wastri.
The legal definition is pretty much "anything threatening to the American-friendly world" nowadays. It has nothing to do with using fear to further an agenda anymore. In fact, it never did, as the people defining the legal term never once used it to describe the terror strategies of their own societies. Try using the word "terrorist" in a way that makes any sense and you'll have virtually nobody willing to listen to you.
Even if it is a troll, it's one that has had mainstream media coverage and was used as proof of tabletop gaming's 'problems with women'.
Not OP, but there's a heap of bullshit with college feminism devolving into a leftist totalitarian movement due to new media and the dunning-kruger effect. Being totalitaran, this movement wants to force their narrative into every aspect of life.
I guess what OP's fearing is that tabletop companies will be pressured into also propelling that narrative.
You can see it Germany already. Our academia is fine, but there's some barely thought out PR stunts from the state or stuff like with Cologne that's more concerned with looking progressive than actually getting shit done.
Heck, communities have an office for equality that's gender-locked and no one bats an eye at this.
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How would you design a tabletop game based off feminism? Either inspired by one (or many) sets of feminist ideas, or about playing as a feminist?
I feel like the idea of a patriarchy continually breathing down the players' necks, either as a social construct or as a physical enemy group, could make for a pretty interesting foe to face. At the same time, I feel like the Feminist Sex Wars really allows for a larger number of classes and a more personal tone to the conflict.
What gods would you include in the setting? I'd say Simone de Beauvoir and Mary Wollstonecraft are a given, but I might be mistaken.
This is something I have literally never been afraid of. I don't understand why you're so terrified of this idea.
What bothers me more than this story is the human rights tribunal case attached to it. Basicly, in Canada there's an institution that can imprison you without ressponsibillity to due practice of law.
People can't even agree what feminism means, so such a game would one massive semantic debate.
Zero likelihood.
People who enjoy gaming will carry on playing as normal, and those who only got involved as a knee jerk reaction to online drama will leave as quickly as they came when the next FOTM thing to be outraged about comes along.
tabletop gaming is already absolutely tiny and 90% male dominated anyway you can't kill something so niche and guerilla anyway.
This is the only case where I do believe the misogyny stories. Sexual frustration, social inadequacy and tabletop games go hand in hand afterall. Funny stuff really.
Observe the neckbearded pussybeggars in question.
What normal speech on tg is curtailed? Are we hurting free speech if someone starts a thread about dickgirls or porn gifs and we say, gtfo this isnt the board for it?
for the record: im anti-sjw, pro hatefacts, pro capitalism etc etc etc
WITNESSED
The response from Wyrd didn't get.much coverage.
After telling them that she had evidence of this illegal behaviour she threatened to take it to the cops if they didn't give her a job.
They told her to fuck off.
No legal action a year later.
God I hope you're false-flagging. The idea that someone could be unintentionally making their own side look so terrible makes me sad.
I would call it: "Cancer: the feministing".
The ultimate goal is to make women the dominant gender. Tools at your disposal are Twitter mobs, rape accusations, gender studies, safe spaces, blog posts, gender quotas.
The ante-matriarchians would be Germaine Greer and indeed Simone de Beauvoir.
Anita Sarkeesian can be some sort of mystical figure. Trump is at the very least an archenemy of sorts. Milo Yannopoulos an intermediary boss that constantly eludes them by hiding behing a pink, gay cloud.
The add on would be "Cancer: BL(a)M(ming)
Who cares? It will go the same way as everything else. Someone will protest and then autists will start flinging death threats and give them all the sympathy support they could ever want. Just fucking roll with the punches and use older rules/models.
It's not like TT is as restrictive as gaming or film or comics. Every LGS I've been with has homebrews all over the place.
Feminism is anything from "equal representation" to "cultural equality" to "kill all men", so there's basically an unlimited number of ways to design a game around feminism. None of them will be as interesting as a game which isn't entirely focused on one societal aspect.
user, you just described Beast.
Never because tabletop games are entirely based on the people you play with
I will say though that Americans I've played with (online) tend to be quite bit more sjw and trigger happy than others
>What is the likelihood that SJW Cancer will kill Tabletop communities and conventions?
100%. Third Wave feminism is intersectional, which means it tries to get a finger into every bowl of porridge around.
They already infected cinema and the vidya industry, what makes you think TT will be different?
>V-Vidya rejected it
That doesn't stop feminists from trying over and over. The Vidya industry will cave in sooner or later, like the comic book industry did before them.
The onslaught cannot be stopped due to two reasons:
1. Men are afraid to speak out because speaking out against feminism WILL have sexual repercussions
2. Women are unwilling to speak out because they want the goodies of feminism without teh bad reputation. Even female "anti-feminists" don't actually want to undo feminism, just the reputation it has.
Definitely this. They react negatively to shit like depictions of Amazons as big sexy women, or the idea that non-PC female characters would mostly be home-makers and seamstresses and shit. No, the king has to have as many female royal guards as male or some shit.
Wow, Canadians are terrible people.
0%.
Neckbeard gonna neckbeard.
People are gonna play whatever they want regardless of someone else's opinion....and if a company closes a door the fans will open a window.
Except normies don't know this you retard. The problem isn't that SJWs don't buy shit it's that bad PR makes you lose money. No one wants to support a "bigot" so they will stop buying or refuse to join the community. The only way to counter this is to throw money at those who DO stand up and show it's profitable to do so.
Overall assessment is simple. Cons are fucked, no way around it. These harpies pray up on con spaces and will take over them, fuck all you can do about it.
A lot of companies will bow and start adapting their fluff to be more inclusive, art will have more niggers and Muslims. Most of this shit will be TCGs and role playing books because they're the easiest to fuck with.
Wyrd has already stood up to them in wargaming, so we have at least 1 company who won't let them fuck with them. Some companies will cave, some will fight. The biggest issue on this front is community management love to hire the SJWs who will fuck a community until all the decent people leave, which pushes it towards SJWism.
Board games are FUCKED. They are the mainstream TBBT traditional gaming and should be considered scorched ground from here on out.
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You're a goddamn retard.
Pro tip mate : Feminism hasn't changed, it's always been this way. All the leading voices in first and second wave feminism had the same misandry and false narratives. Nothing has changed in the slightest.
Nice analysis, but you have to be at least 18 to post here.
This is pretty much right. Such a shame you'll be called a neckbeard for this, and most likely be banned on top of that.
>calling someone a neckbeard on Veeky Forums is a grave insult
This is how we can tell you're not a fa/tg/uy.
>Such a shame you'll be called a neckbeard for this
go back to /pol/, please.
>The Vidya industry will cave in sooner or later, like the comic book industry did before them.
The comic book industry, or more precisely capeshit, didn't fight in the first place.
They laid down and said "please step on me".
Thank god for Eurocomics who are simply unable to give a single fuck.
Does this mean we'll get new plastic sisters of battle?
These idiots are more likely to be from /tv/ or /r9k/ nowadays.
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In the first fucking post
It will only prove my point if I am banned. It will prove community managers I.E mods of Veeky Forums are on the social justice band wagon.
As for the other stuff, it proves no one here has any clue what they're talking about. The fact that we have retards using /pol/ as some sort of boogieman when they're the people fighting most of this shit says a lot about the community here.
It's not a "grave insult" as much as it's avoiding the discussion. I've seen it so often one could write a program that random plays out such a potential discussion. Feminist shaming tactics are so incredibly predictable, yet never actually adress the point. That's because feminists don't care about the point, they care about keeping their ideology intact. Because without feminism, we might actually stop looking at women as eternal victims. How horrible!
Youre not wrong but it won't be that bad IMO
Tabletop games are more about the people you're playing with desu
Anyway from my experience with this shit people will stick their fingers in their ears and deny it's happening until they're affected
People will disagree with you, but what you say is true. Money talks.
Just look at Hollywood and Video Games. They've slowly but surely caved into pressure and jumped through the hoops eager to win bucks. What they don't know is that SJWs don't actually buy anything. They clump together, scream very loudly but have no power on their own. All they can hope for is for suits to force changes into whatever their complaining about and then hope the SJWs buy it. But they don't, they all just high five each other then find something else to complain about, leaving the watered down product to die.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say ... yeah, literally everything in there is made up
I'll pick one at random
>black guy in the store
>all the nerds shouts "sup nigger!"
>someone complains
>well he shouldnt be so sensitive
nope, didn't happen
for fucks sake
It will prove nothing except that the mods and jannies aren't shitty enough to abide crossboarding shitposters, you dumb cunt.
>A good janitor makes sure everyone can only post in one board
Yeah, go fuck yourself. Either you're a crossboarder or you're literally autistic. This anti-crossboarder attitude is what creates echo chambers in the first place. If you want your echo chamber, go to tumblr.
You're not looking at the big picture goy.
I only drink from my lake, so it's not a problem as long as my lake exists. Oh no, the river has become toxic and now I have to close off my lake. And now my lake isn't being refilled, I can't drink any more.
i.e. you need to restock your players. If everyone outside of your group is social justice or been driven off by social justice you will lose your ability to game.
SJWs do buy stuff quite a lot actually, there just isn't very many of them. They buy a shit load of hair dye, male tears merchandise and doctor who bullshit. Most of them are trust fund kiddies living off daddy bucks and have zero self control. They're fantastic people to market to, there just isn't enough of them. I've spoken to marketeers who sell to the middle class teenagers and they make a killing from it. They won't buy OUR shit, but they sure as fuck buy THEIR shit.
Not him, but just take it back to /r9k/ or wherever you came from.
>letting niggers wander into the store and steal things
id trayboon him 2bh lad
You will prove only that you're dumb and can't follow the rules. The topic is /pol/ pure and simple, and should be discussed on that board.
>furfags think they shouldn't be kept on their containment board
Big surprise
If you think Veeky Forums is a place for shoving your retarded political or social agenda, repeatedly no less, than I would say you're not in the slightest position to criticize anyone here.
This is what will happen:
>Some people will put out some products pandering to SJW audiences
>Nobody will buy them because SJWs don't actually play tabletop games in any significant numbers
>People will stop putting out products pandering to SJWs because they don't sell
>I am at Keycon, waiting for a friend to finish her Shadowrun game. One of my male friends hands me a pepsi. I take it and thank him.
>I wake up in a hotel bed I don’t remember. A man’s hand is inside me, jabbing and painful. I try to scream but nothing comes out. I try to move but I cannot. After what feels like a lifetime, I stagger away, ripping his hand out of my jeans. The convention whirls around me like a nightmare kaleidoscope as I beg for help. Eventually, someone takes me aside.
>“This is a safe convention. We have a reputation to protect. If you go to the police, we’ll say you were never here.”
>I nod numbly. I think I am crying, but no tears fall. I stumble into a bathroom in the lobby coffee shop and sob until I can’t breathe. When I am calm, I call the police and report the attack.
>“You sound drunk. Were you drinking? I’m not filing a report for some drunken slut.” The officer hangs up.
>It is 2009. A man at my game store has been sexually harassing me, talking about how much fun he would have raping me. When no one is in the store, he traps me against a wall and rubs his genitals against me. I call the police.
>“This is a matter for your manager. If he touches you on the street, then you can call us.” The officer hangs up.
Wait, why are we talking about gaming? The Canadian police are refusing to do their jobs, we need to get these actual police officers fired for these actions which did, in fact, really happen.
I don't care about the point because you haven't made one yet. You're just Chicken Little running around with his head cut off. Oh no, you can't roll masturbation checks at the table anymore. Curse those sajowuhs!
Yes, but they will cost $50 a piece due to all the plastic it will take to make them "body friendly". The end result will look less like a woman than a plague barer does.
Fuck off to /mlp/. Echo chambers is one thing, thematic categories is the other.
>Traditional gaming community is not Veeky Forums related
Is that why Marvel keep putting out feminist comics while no one is buying them? You don't need every product to be successful, you can prop up your propaganda wing with an alternative successful product. That's how Microsoft stayed a float for years.
>misuses "literal"
>doesn't know what autism is
>thinks shitposting is the only way to avoid echo chambers
>hurr tumblr
GG no re.
Paranoia with patriarchy in place of communism.
Also switch out friend computer for a giant, talking, bleeding vagina
I see you are engaging in most sinful behavior my friend: to doubt. You must not doubt The Victim, you must #ListenAndBelieve.
Because we all know minorities aren't people, they're precious, fragile treasures that must be treated with utmost care and diligence and kept in Safe Spaces for security.
Now go check your privilege and whip yourself fifty times while reciting Sarkeesian 12:3 to 8 so that your sin may be forgiven.
We're not telling you to go back to /pol/ because we think SJWs are anything but pants on head retarded, we're just sick of screeching about your views and trying to force it down everyone's throat like one.
>And now my lake isn't being refilled
Many of us play games that haven't had an update since the 1970s.
Tabletops are:
Decentralized.
Not reliant on companies beyond the initial release.
Half the posts in this thread confirm that tabletop is heavily infested with Tumblr already.
You forgot a crucial step:
>if mechanical or fluff aspects of the SJW-pandering games are good they will be homebrewed into a more relevant context
Hail Veeky Forums, hail homebrew.
>I don't like feminist shoving their agenda up my ass
>let me shove my agenda into Veeky Forums's
>Is that why Marvel keep putting out feminist comics while no one is buying them?
Capeshitters actually buy those comics though.
They're that retarded/addicted.
That was the most boring CYOA I've ever read
They said "'sup my nigger."
I do the same with my (close) black friends and they call me a racial slur in return.
The others seem way less realistic
Every time I read this, I hear it in Dr. Manhattan's voice.
>It is 2009. A man at my game store has been sexually harassing me, talking about how much fun he would have raping me. When no one is in the store, he traps me against a wall and rubs his genitals against me. I call the police.
>It is 1984. I am the man who will later molest me at a game store. A poster of Wonder Woman is my only solace from the drudgery of my temp job at Woolworth's. In the street, a woman screams and two cars smash into each other.
>It is 1991, and my classmate just told me she won't be coming to my sleepover. A single tear wells in my eye.
More like 40% of the posts in this thread prove /pol/lacks don't know how to keep to their shitty containment board.
>A medium where the game itself exists solely within the mind of the players
>If players don't like an aspect of the game, they can change it, because it's in the mind
Conclusion:
Who cares? I'm still going to enforce the women get -2 Strength but gain the beta orbiters trait.
I honestly wonder if this shit is false flagging. SJWs come onto the board, post frothingly stupid /pol/shit, accuse anyone who disagree with them of being an SJW, then repeat again and again ad nauseum. Eventually, people start thinking the SJWs look reasonable in contrast, and start tipping towards their side. Just as fucking planned.
Seriously, tell me if I'm being paranoid. Furfags can't be this bad at making arguments, can they?
There is absolutely no way this happened. The cops would be fired on the spot the moment this came out.
False accusations are easy to make and women aren't punished for making them. They also get backing from social justice "charities" who will do 99% of the leg work for them and act as human shields/mafia tough guys as needed.
>Enter a topic on social justice in gaming
>complain people are discussing it.
The first issues sell as collectors items but them they drop in sales below the previous incarnation almost immediately.