Do you guys allow vaping at the table? Why/why not?

My friend is playing a Vapeshifter in our modern fantasy game so I allow it as an In Character Prop.

I think the comment was only for the sake of making that burn, famalam. Don't overthink it.

Vaping is pretty gay though.

A shitload of people in the military vape, it's pretty weird.

It's entirely about forming outgroups.
>people who do [arbitrary inoffensive thing] aren't actually persons!
>if I exclude persons who like [arbitrary inoffensive thing] then I can be cool like my friends on the shitpost website!

It's mostly the subculture and less the devices themselves.

I've know vapers before, and they basically walk all over every measure of politeness smoker culture has ingrained in smokers. They smoke indoors like points out, blow fog in your face if you take exception, and are generally known for being rather obnoxious about their noxiousness.

Albeit, half the ones I know are mostly clueless and do correct their behavior, but for the most part it seems the culture that's buying into vaping, especially those who didn't get ingrained in smoker culture first, haven't yet learned how to be polite about it. Since vaping is seen as (and branded as) the "less unhealthy" option, it's probably garnering a lot of new nicotine users who otherwise wouldn't step into nicotine use and especially those younger since vaping has had a lot less regulation on its sale and public use.

Don't ask don't tell.

no question, anyone who is "into" vaping has always been some combination of trashy and poor and huge faggot all rolled into one person.

Without fail they'll have plenty of tattoos and facial piercings and generally they're also ricers as well.

Same reason that a lot of them dip: to cut back on smoking.

>why do people treat it like people who don't use coasters or something?
Because of vapers who are obnoxious about it and blow "vapor" in people's faces, vape in non-smoking zones, etc. on the justification that it's technically not smoking.

>no question, anyone who is "into" RPGs has always been some combination of trashy and poor and huge faggot all rolled into one person.
>Without fail they'll have plenty of unwashed stench and neckbeards and generally they're also sexual deviants as well.

Dont really give a fuck.

I wont allow smoking at the table, cigarette smoke fucks with my asthma and seeps into the fucking couches but vape smoke doesn't have the same properties in my experience.

Is it bad if you go from cigarettes to vaping to avoid the cancer?

>vaping is seen as (and branded as) the "less unhealthy" option
This right here. Vapers are the kind of people who want to smoke because they think it's cool, but don't want the icky bad consequences of smoking.

They're just terrible people.

I allow non-nicotine vape at the table, just because I don't want any of it second-hand.

There isn't enough data on vaping to know if it is harmful for you or not. It is almost certainly better for you than smoking cigarettes, so yes.

Yes, you're still a literally subhuman addict and deserve to be treated like an animal until society collectively puts you down like the weak willed faggot you are.
Also, enjoy popcorn lung you fucking poorfag.

good to see we're in agreement

You're not avoiding the cancer. You're just summoning it slower.

Vape if you want to dude. Dont let Veeky Forums make your fucking decisions for you.

As to pros and cons, no cancer but you burn through that shit real fast. Like I know a lad tried vaping but gave it up because he burned through 2 weeks supply in 3 days.

As a note, if you drink, masturbate or eat junk food of any description, don't hold this sort of attitude. If you're gonna be this condescending, you better be fucking hardcore.

Just don't buy cigarettes. Going cold-turkey won't kill you, but it will with booze.

I meant, yes it's ok. No it's not bad.

No, because you're a faggot if you do something distracting while at the table

>drink, masturbate or eat junk food of any description
What do you take me for some half literate inbred low-class poorscum like the rest of these fags and probably yourself?

Don't lump me in with your vices.

>avoid the cancer

You're cutting out a pretty large swathe of carcinogens from cigarettes, but unfortunately nicotine isn't least among them. Unfortunately, vapor fluid has a whole new batch of chemicals in it that are much less understood, though a number of them are known carcinogens.

And worse, the companies that manufacture the fluid suffer some pretty terrible problems in batch consistency, many tested samples have inconsistent ingredients, more of some and less of others. Even some non-nicotine fluid batches were shown to contain nicotine, as much as the regular nicotine fluids. As industry oversight catches up to this, we'll learn more and screening will force quality and consistency standards on manufacturers, but for now it's the wilderness of an unknown quantity.

Depends on what the fluid is. If it smells nasty, then no. If it doesn't, then no problem.

Unless you're talking about actually vaping weed or tobacco, because that would be a no.

user, your on Veeky Forums, YOU ARE like rest of us.

Getting shot with a .22 is less lethal than smoking too.
Doesn't mean I'm gonna fire one off in my ass.

You're argument is Shit and you're retarded

He's going to work his way up to cigarettes so he can avoid the damage.

Wasn't actually talking to you, dude, just making a general note. Sorry if it seemed otherwise.

As for vices, yes I have mine. Life is for living and I would rather enjoy it than restrain myself from things for a sense of superiority.

I mean, for fuck sake, we're on a board dedicated to playing make believe and/or arm-chair general in groups of varying sizes. Unless you're here purely to argue, your argument holds no water. Even TTRPG is a vice.

>if you drink, masturbate or eat junk food
Spotted the fedora.

Also fat as fuck or literal twigs.
Normal people don't vape because it's for trash people.

It's not an argument, it's just a factual statement.

Yeah, no, I'm sorry you and so many others are jealous that I have the money and education to afford to take care of my body.

Take a note, vapefags, the 'we're in this together' mentality is the sort of thing that keeps you people so poor.

>Spotted the fedora.
What?

No.
Because people who feel the need to suck plastic cocks are all hiding some kind of mental malfunction.

>Even TTRPG is a vice
Not my fault the game doesn't lead you to read historical, philosophical, religious, and anthropological material.

Sounds like you need a more engaging GM, which isn't hard if you're around people who got even half of a reasonable education (which won't be found in whatever shitty small town or suburb you grew up in).

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It's not even that, I know plenty of smokers who switch to it and are suddenly doing it inside and they'll just whip it out whenever as though it was completely different.

10/10 reply.

>user, your on Veeky Forums, YOU ARE like rest of us.
Not that this attitude is also prevalent in metalheads who take head trauma 'for fun' and wonder why they can't progress past line cook. The overlap could be the topic of a research paper.

There is evidence that vaping will help a person quit cigarettes. There is no evidence that shooting yourself with a .22 will help you quit cigarettes unless you die in which case you will quit everything forever.

>all tabletop games are D&D
What the fuck is with you people, it's like you really do have brain damage

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You're in a thread with vapefags, what do you think?

Seriously these "people" are like crackheads but worse.

You need to think outside of the box.
>give .22 to another person
>instruct the person to shoot you every time they see you smoking
I'll wager my next paycheck it does help quit smoking.

%100 percent positive you have never met a crackhead

To be fair the most obnoxious people in the TTRPG scene do seem to migrate to D&D and Pathfinder. My guess being that constantly getting moved along means they only get to play the common systems.

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I am beaten.

O, I die Horatio.

Vapers are more like crackwhores actually.
They're around but no one wants them except for the people using them to make a quick dollar.
Except of course for other crackwhores of course. Just so they can dish about crack culture and which hole tyrone tore open last time they needed a fix.

Because people who vape are like the kids who smoked in middle and high school but about 10 years older.
For the most part, nobody cares, but there's a specific group that makes it their job to make sure everybody cares.
T. Work at vape store

Sure, just don't be an asshole about. If we're at somebody's house and they want you to do it outside, do it outside.

It's not like they're smoking a blunt or anything. If they were they'd at least have to share.

>degenerate hipster weednigger invited to a game by one of me "friends"
>offers to drive out for food at break, players run with, he gets my players intoxicated
>they get back all red eyed, inattentive, and giggly, game trainwrecks
>wait for them all to filter out.
>memorize stonerfag's license plate number
>phone in a complaint that the vehicle almost ran me off the road and was swerving lanes, inform the police of stonerfag's general location, residence, direction, plates, make, model, etc.
>he gets pulled over
>and searched
>with all that weed on him
>goes to county
>had priors
>ends up he had enough to get sent to the fed for a couple years since he'd been in trouble before

Remember, Veeky Forums, cleaning up society is in nobody's hands but yours and if you don't do your part, more kids are going to end up a waste like my "friends'" jailbird buddy.

In my experience, tabletop gamers exert their "alfa male dominance" by their overpowering body odor stench. The idea of someone producing a good smell (be it by vaping, cologne, air fresheners, or other means) is entirely emasculating and offensive to the neckbeards.

I don't allow vaping in buildings I'm in. If you need to inhale your satan-gas, do it outside.

You better be joking. Getting your friend high during a game was a bit of a dick move, but unless he was doing far worse he doesn't sound like he deserved that.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, you loser pothead.

He was breaking the law. He deserved it or he wouldn't have been sent up to the pokey.

>Vaping.
>"Good smell"
I bet you sniff your own farts.

If you don't want Bubba in your ass
don't smoke grass!

A dick move but the guy was obviously already on thin ice. Can't say he hadn't been warned what would happen if he kept smoking.

Bet it would smell great if you injected some bleach into the liquid chamber while the vapefag goes to the bathroom.

It'd be such a shame if someone else died from improperly manufactured fluid.

>ruin peoples lives
>act like you did society a service

I'll bet you vote democrat

>You pothead loser

wow how old are you man lol wow

Yeah, because I don't give a fuck. Doesn't seem to be an issue and usually he goes over to an open window or blows it to the side.

Then perhaps it IS the device itself.

It should be placed rightly in its place among the fedoras for items which have inherent influence, either granted by memetics or because the function, purpose, and/or design all create a nexus from which influence from without can seep into the individual who communes with or otherwise uses the item.

^This, people who do drugs have zero impulse control and will wind up in prison anyhow, the best thing we can do is help along the process whenever and however we can.

I don't smoke. Nice projecting though.
I still feel like it could have been handled more maturely.

>dude ron weed paul rEOVLution lmao 420blazeit
Proudly.

I wouldn't go that far, just that I won't sympathize with you if you repeatably break the law.

Whether I report you or not depends on how negatively you effect me or others.

his life was already ruined if he was smoking that shit and driving tbqh fampai

That's a very general assumption. Do you think you're being a superhero or something?

You're right.
Only children turn people in to the authorities for committing a crime. He should have followed that fucker and gone pure Charlie Bronson on him.

He's not the hero people deserve. Or need.

>i don't care

That's because you're stupid. This board isn't about smoke or vapour, it's about TTGs. Ring tones don't "seep" into your furniture either, but blasting douche-scented vapour across the table is just as distracting. Vapeheads can vape outside during our regular session breaks just like the group's other "O2 isn't good enough" junkies. I bear them no malice for their weaknesses but, as the SJW poster says - NOT at my table.

Not saying it couldn't have been, but I will not sympathize with someone who is forewarned not to break laws again. Just because you personally disagree with the law doesn't mean you should consistently break it. You'll only hurt yourself.

no, because i dont want to die in 20 years from inhaling particulates

My gf vapes as a method to stop smoking. Device costs $10.

You just reminded me I work with asbestos.

Fuck.

>Just because you personally disagree with the law doesn't mean you should consistently break it. You'll only hurt yourself.
I hope none of you chums buy your GW minis off chinaman or pirate books :^)

This.
He didn't do that, though. He reported a guy who was breaking a minor law indirectly by lying because he was butthurt and wanted to feel like he "Did the right thing.". Whether or not the action was good or not, the reasoning is childish, as is your strawmaning.

I heard a blowjob everyday you're clean helps as well.

No, I have this little thing called "a sense of civic duty" which used to be important in this nation.

But no, keep smoking your weed and then wonder why crime in your neighborhood is so high or the kids down the block never get anywhere and wind up as opiate addicted truck drivers at 55.

on top of this the vapor that you inhale creates smaller particles then smoking does, called particulets, and those are pretty damn harmful to your lungs, your lungs can get rid of smoke sized shit, but not the smaller particles from vapor, they build up and clog your bronchile tubes or whatever up, just as bad as cancer

>But no, keep smoking your weed and then wonder why crime in your neighborhood is so high or the kids down the block never get anywhere and wind up as opiate addicted truck drivers at 55.
But I don't live anywhere near blacks or mexicans?

>consistently break it
When I get caught and told this s my last chance I will buy them.

well /pol/'d my friend

do you wear a mask? i used to work at a place that made roofing shingles with asbestos, and the dude next to me never wore a mask

People fucking get plowed into all the time by weed intoxicated drivers, like, every fucking day.

So fuck you if you don't want another pothead off the street so he can't plow into a car with an innocent and socially productive family while lost in a giggle fit.

I do, I'm a welder.

No cutting, and good supervisors mean I'm pretty safe.

I don't smoke, Nobody I've known who smoked ended up a hardcore druggie with no hope, and you "civic duty" would make a great badge to put on your fedora.

You keep on that neighborhood watch, though, Ms. Peggy Hill, you sure are making a difference.

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.