>it's an "aliens don't understand the english language" episode
Benjamin Peterson
3rd for the knights in space.
Aaron Thomas
Well, 'e's Venerate in' 'e? I've been t' over a hunnred worlds in my time in th' guard, and there's these statues all over what say "Venerate the Immortal Emperor".
Mason Watson
If I attach the Burna bomma's spinny turret to my blitza bomma, can I still use it in GW tournaments or is that against DA RULES?
Zachary Miller
Naw naw, it depends on th' local dia-leck. I fought on a pilgrim world once, and this 'uge cathedral which pulled in pilgrims from across the sector, it had plinths calling him Praise and Allgloryto. Maybe some o' them are fer them folks from feudal worlds.
Gavin Peterson
So, fellow heretics, you had enough time to test all the new CSM formations in our supplements.
What do you think? Some nice lists you did with those? What's your favourite?
I'd tried them all, and I must say i love the Cult of Slaughter, Bretheren of the Dark Covenant and Black Legion Warband. It was so awesome to field my Dark Apostles and CSM again. It was a long time.
>inb4 yes, they are not Tau level bullshit, but it's nice to have something new. This is how all formations should look like imho.
Cooper Hill
That one formation with respawning cultists, mixed with two sorceror cabals, allied to daemons was brutal when i played against it. Massive footslogging hordes that respawned, sorcerors out the ass and a sneaky mini-screamerstar with nurglings. I just didnt have enough anti-infantry to kill them off completely, and playing non-flyrant nidzilla the only decent high-shot unit i had was that one unit of thirty termagants-which shot me in the ass just as often as i shot him. My Tyrant+guard was tarpitted early by the Screamerstar. Sure i was running something about as unoptimised as possible, but respawning cultists is genuinely great and occupied the entire centre of the board the whole game. Still not CSM proper and still allied to daemons, but made a great game for both of us.
Austin Cox
How many cultist did he had? In how many units? I'm still finding the right balance.
Xavier Lee
It varied, the one with his ML3 and chaplain-equivalent was maxed and nurgly, otherwise they were between 16 and 20 (proxied as green army men because holy shit) each with an attached ML2 sorc). And a full 8 units, supported by two tzeentch heralds and some screamers and some nurglings. We let it be known to each other the basic ideas of what we would be running, but yeah. My biggest problem, defensively, was those fucking sorcerors and their fucking force swords, and the devilgaunts killing a carnifex turn 1 because 'shoot urself lel'
Nicholas Anderson
>mfw i only have 35 cultists total Well, i always wanted an excuse for making more cultists.
Nolan Smith
He had 45 actual cultists total, most of whom were in the maxed out nurgly squad. The rest were green army men because there was something like 160-odd total cultists and even the cheapo snapfits take forever to make and paint
Jason Reed
There is this dude i know that makes commission painting. He just put on his price list that he does 10 men troops for 21€.
I'm gonna make him regret it that decision.
Angel Jackson
I have played triple hellcult with 170 fearless cultists before at 1000 points and it tarpits everything.
Parker Rivera
Any advice on turning a regular Ork into a warboss? No way I'm paying 20 bucks for one.
I got some bits from the dakkajet kit, but that's it really. Doubt that'll help.
Blake Clark
The problem with that plan is ork bosses are bigger than the nobz, who are bigger than the boyz. You could do it, but you'll end up with a bosslet.
Jack Williams
throw it in the bin and buy a warboss? The whole point of warbosses is that they're way, way bigger than the normal orks, so you can't really use anything that isn't warboss sized as a basis for a conversion. People have used ogres, and like, demon princes, or scratchbuilt big suits of mega armour for warbosses before, though, but that's still not very cheap. Alternatively, you could be a git and say that one of your nobz is a warboss.
You prick.
Julian Clark
Oi! Iz yoze a weedy grot or a propa warbozz? Boyz ain't nobz and nobz ain't bozzes. Stop muckin' about!
Asher Smith
Look for advice on modeling with greenstuff and the like in the wip threads
Asher Lopez
Thanks lads, my wallet frowns but the green hordes smile. 'ave a pic of my nearly-finished Blitza-bommer.
Anthony Turner
>finally have the money to order the bits and build my custom platoon >discover just now that i need 5 more minis to make a platoon command squad
well fuck, thats what i deserve for only playing tanks and veterans in chimeras. gotta wait i dont know how much time until i can order the additional bits again so i can finally play some conscripts
Ethan Cook
>Not Dark Angels
Yeah, Alright Grey Knights might have it in their name but the Knightly Orders of Caliban's values are always instilled in each and every Dark Angel especially those of the Inner Circle.
Ethan Watson
Wrong general image, friendo.
Gavin Morgan
Knightly values like treason and fratricide?
Angel Richardson
*screams externally*
Blake Clark
Sup Veeky Forums Just bought a knight renegade set, intending to make them both original donut steel freeblades and trying my hand putting my graphic design skills to custom decals, already decided to paint one a solid bronze with silver trim, but I'm having trouble deciding on what scheme to go with the other one, I want purple to be the base colour with a gold trim, but I don't know what secondary colour to paint (for splitting up the armour plates). It can't be white for the custom decals to work.
Robert Gonzalez
If it's a darker purple, try a mid-to-dark green. Also, the WiP thread would be a more appropriate place to ask.
Matthew Foster
Is there a chaos god of ripping people off?
No, values like LOYALTY AND VENGEANCE, you filthy self-serving heretic.
Alexander Lewis
Loyalty to what? Obviously not the Emperor, you fucking traitor.
Caleb Bailey
>repeating this bullshit story again
To the Legion.
You and I both know that in the end, you betrayed your brothers in a uncertain situation.
Around Fallen, don't be bawling.
Dominic Thompson
All the gods are chaotic in nature and have no qualms not giving people what they asked for. That being said Tzeentch and Slaanesh make the biggest habit of it.
Adrian Morris
>Knightly values like treason and fratricide?
I will take Origins of the English Monarch for 500, Alex.
Says one of the Thousand Sons...
Michael Watson
Is there any info on Altansar besides the 2 paragraph wiki description? We know they're >home of the Dark Reapers aspect >lost in the warp for 10,000 years >never take off helmet or speak loudly >currently hiding in realspace near Terra somehow
I'm try to imagine how they'd fight, for a possible fluff/painting project. Does the following seem reasonable?
>Lots of Farseers/Warlocks Because, like Ulthwé, they were in the Eye for a long time >Lots of quasi-Rangers They appear to be pretty sneaky, having survived the warp and now lurking near Terra. I imagine they don't have any/many runaways though since Rangers in the Eye would probably attract daemonic attention. So I'd guess they use their regular Guardians as a sort of Rangers (except less insane/likely to get everyone killed) >Probably have some wraith units Because 10,000 years is a long time to be fighting Daemons without waking up a single sleeping ancestor >Main/only Aspect on the craftworld is the Dark Reaper Obvious reasons
Anything else?
Owen Sullivan
You underestimate the number of your enemies, fratricidal cur. We still remember the Ophidian Gulf.
Henry Taylor
WE ARE FUCKING LOYAL JUST WAIT UNTIL AHRIMAN GIVES OUR BADIES BACK
Hunter Butler
Bodies* Goddamnit talking with no tonge sure is hard
Ayden Russell
I'll keep it in mind
Liam Reed
Too bad no one remembers your codex though.
Hows the crusade?
Charles Johnson
Have IG gone into NPCism?
They've have a lot of special characters cut and the last update they got was just an excuse to eliminate their pewter models. Will Vostroyans/Mordians/Steel legion/Tallarn ever see a range update again, or will they fade away?
Elijah Green
LOOKS LIKE SOME CHAPTERS NEED A LITTLE EXPLOSIONS IN THEIR LIFE
Daniel Morris
Shitty, since we're fucking hemorrhaging battle brothers to retcons and ever-lamer fluff. At least we're not the Space Wolves.
Bentley Brown
Yes, they have. You can thank Monkey for that too. They made pask into some generic asshole commander for longstrike to fight and almost kill.
Landon Fisher
>CHAPTERS
That isn't how you spell Legions.
Joshua Jones
>At least we're not the Space Wolves.
There we can find common ground.
Weren't yall known to have upwards of 4000 in the earlier editions? What did they retcon them down to?
Logan Garcia
So is there any actual fluff on how the riptide deploys? Does it drop from orbit? because that's fucking metal.
William King
>that's fucking metal.
Fucking idiot, its an MC. That means its flesh.
Matthew Sanchez
The jump outta Mantas.
Zachary Nelson
Yeah, the 4e codex put us somewhere in excess of 3k. They retconned us down to barely above-strength. They also fucked up the few fluff pieces they give us and managed to find a way to exclude us from the demi-company. I can only hope that we get a supplement or campaign book at some point. I keep hoping that they make an Armageddon book, as that would both give us some nice things and hopefully unfuck the Orks. But no, we keep getting fucking Tau shit and reprinted SM formations. Thanks, GW.
Noah Reed
They just jump from ships about 10 stories high off the ground at most. There is lore somewhere how they deployed when going against imperial knights. Mind you, this was before their fluff went to total shit and was only partially shit.
Luke Bell
Magnus Forge World miniature when?
Also, the Burn of Prospero could be an Imperial Armour volume too
Brody Morgan
I've got some vague memory of an anime where mechs on cargo sleds with parachutes are shunted out the back of big cargo plane like tanks, but I can't remember the anime at all.
Jackson Gonzalez
They did that quite often in Gundam Wing.
Jason Robinson
Damned fanatics.
Nothing else. matters. but. hunting. the. Fallen.
ONE of these maniacs is able to spread dissent and heresy like a storm, and you want more of them out there? Get out of our way, let us do our job.
Juan Phillips
Fuck off blue-skin
Daniel Young
I'd love to get back to crusading against important things (like the biggest waaagh ever, the 13th black crusade, etc.), but we're going to need you to stop SHOOTING US while cleaning up the mess YOU MADE. If you want to kill some marines, the Space Wolves are right that way. Take as many as you want.
Liam Johnson
How many T8 monstrous creatures do I need to pack into a 1000 point game to get the other guy to just rage quit?
Jace Hill
If you're going to be a cunt, why half-ass it? You should be asking how many you CAN fit into 1k. If you're going to make someone quit, you might as well give them a story worth telling.
Jayden Collins
Well, how many then? Necrons can get 4 t7s, but not ignoring bolter fire is weak. There is a single Wraithknight formation for Eldar, so you could get 3.
Jaxon Price
None, because the only t8 monsters areoverpriced and shitty in other ways
Henry Long
Only T8 MC I can think of is the Wraithlord. Which with all upgrades is only 155pts, which unbound gives you 6.
Or you can strip the heavy weapons and just run 8 glaive Wraithlords.
Owen James
I'm running 1500pt CAD with 5.
Jose Thompson
Which necron units/formations should I avoid for casual games?
Aaron James
conscripts are the shit, my friend.
I always find joy in playing them, cause whatever happens, I paid 3pts per model on them. So if they die to shooting? Ha! someone shot the conscripts instead of anything else. If they die in assault? Ha! someone assaulted the conscripts other than anything else! If they live on unscathed and kill half a marine? Ha! My conscripts are heroes
Hunter Baker
Hypothetically after the HH series ends (which we all know it never will) what series would you like to see replace it?
I personally would love to see a series based around the war in heaven to finally give the Xeno a chance to shine. I t
Christian Edwards
Orks, eldar, and necrons only? Psssshh.
Dominic James
>There is a single Wraithknight formation for Eldar no there isn't
Kevin Hill
Does anything stop a black legion CAD from allying with a crimson slaughter cad.
In order to add a lord with slaughter relics?
Christopher Foster
"allying" doesn't exist as it did in 6th edition.
Your free to take whatever detachments you want of any faction in any combination. They interact with each other using the ally matrix.
Nolan Davis
Unless of course there is a specific restriction preventing you from doing something (for example, the Allied Detachment can't be your primary, so you can't have all Allied Detachments)
Kayden King
I've thought about this before when I started my eldar army. I ended up not going with Altansar, went with a similarly coloured homebrew. I couldn't really find a lot more information though. My thinking was that due to their connection with Maugen Ra and the dark reapers they would be fans of heavy firepower. I figured that they'd be light on aspect warriors other than dark reapers, but heavy on weapon platforms - vypers, vauls wrath, walkers, tanks... all the big guns. And yes, farseers, warlocks and guardians. I hadn't really thought about wraiths though, I suppose they would have needed to make use of them.
Zachary Brooks
Why is Deff Skwadron such an indecipherable mess? The art style is awful and you never know what the actual fuck is going on on a page.
David Butler
...
Tyler Lewis
Detachments and detachments are legal
Detachments and formations are legal
Formations and formations are legal
Formations and unbound is legal
Detachments and unbound are ILLEGAL
Aiden Peterson
>Formations and unbound is legal >Detachments and unbound are ILLEGAL Wat
Joseph Walker
The emperor's name is Ralph.
I thought everybody knew that.
Dylan Scott
You can do it but you don't get command benefits
Dylan Scott
If you go unbound, you don't get any command benefits (the bonuses from detachments, like force orgs or decurions), but you can still use formations
Brayden Moore
So, if I have two black legion lords with black legion relics, how would I get a third lord with crimson slaughter relics?
Jaxson Anderson
Take a crimson slaughter detachment or formation with a lord in it
Aaron Russell
Did you just say the Emperor's name is "vomit"?
Nicholas Thompson
Emperor's name's Karl. Period.
Matthew Howard
I don't think I can stress enough that its literally "take as many detachments. Of whatever type. Of any faction. as you want. Formations are detachments too." (provided you obey the individual restrictions on each detachment)
Gavin Brown
Detachments have to be combined with other detachments or formations in order to receive command benefits.
In other words Detachment + Unbound is /legal/, but completely fucking pointless as the detachment bonus becomes voided, and without that, why are you bothering with a detachment?
Jaxson Hill
Space Crates are $50US.
Benjamin Anderson
*flesh crates
Luis Ward
I need some feedback on the Army list I've been working on:
>HQ: >Helbrecht >Emperor’s Champion
>Troops: >Crusader Squad (5 standard Initiates, 1 Meltagun Initiate, 1 Power Axe Initiate, 1 Sword Brother w/Melta Bombs) in a Drop Pod with a Missile Launcher >Crusader Squad (5 standard Initiates, 1 Meltagun Initiate, 1 Power Axe Initiate, 2 Neophytes, 1 Sword Brother w/Melta Bombs) in a Drop Pod with a Missile Launcher >Crusader Squad (5 standard Initiates, 1 Meltagun Initiate, 1 Power Axe Initiate, 2 Neophytes, 1 Sword Brother w/Melta Bombs) in a Drop Pod with a Missile Launcher
>Storm Hammer formation: >Assault Marines (7 Assault Marines with Jump Packs, 2 Assault Marines with Eviscerators, 1 “Vet SGT” w/Melta Bomb) >Assault Marines (7 Assault Marines with Jump Packs, 2 Assault Marines with Eviscerators, 1 “Vet SGT” w/Melta Bomb) >Devastator Squad (5 Bolter Devastators, 2 Grav Devastators, 2 Multi-melta Devastators, 1 SGT) in a Drop Pod with Missle Launcher >Devastator Squad (5 Bolter Devastators, 2 Grav Devastators, 2 Multi-melta Devastators, 1 SGT) in a Drop Pod with Missle Launcher
So the general idea is being super aggressive with more targets than you can shake a stick at. Helbrecht and the Emperor’s Champion ride with the Squad that doesn’t have any Neophytes and one of the other squads arrive first turn. Storm Hammer gets Combat Squaded so each of the ASM combat Squads get an Eviscerator and the Devastators split so the Grav goes in one group and the Multi-melta in the other.
In total this puts 60 models basically right on top of the enemy forces turn one, with 20 of the rushing in an tearing things up (and using Black Templar Chapter Tactics to possibly give them Hatred for that turn one assault). Pretty much everything else hits the line on turn two with Helbrecht using his Crusade of Wrath to make the charge extra crunchy.
Robert Powell
So is that one required troops choice or two?
Evan Torres
It depends on the detachment you take. A detachment is a force org chart, formation, or decurion.
If you want JUST the lord and nothing else, take an Allied Detachment.
Benjamin Hughes
Do the wounds from a Str D shot count against the unit or a single individual model? Like if I got 12 wounds from one shot.
Lucas Martin
Then one model takes 12 wounds. The only (I think) instance that wounds spill over from a model to its unit is a challenge.
Blake Long
Only against a model. Wounds from Strength D hits, or any other "Hit" that causes multiple wounds doesn't spill over. Your squad sergeant will literally go down to -11 wounds, but they won't carry over.
Benjamin Rodriguez
Woops, see
Adrian Bailey
Challenges confuse me. Do you need to be in charging distance or do you just need LOS?
Gavin Evans
Challenges happen after charges, at the start of the fight subphase. You need to be in combat to challenge.
Luis Watson
Speaking of challenges. Out of curiosity, can you issue challenges to Tyranids? If so, how does it work?
Bentley Martinez
In the same melee. Nothing else matters.
Bentley Mitchell
tyrannids don't have many characters, but those characters can be challenged just like everything else. There's no rules reason it should work differently for them.
Easton Ross
So say my Captain charges into a squad. Does he issue the challenge before attacking but after passing the charge?
Dominic Jenkins
Yes, you can issue challenges. It works exactly the same. Just needs to be a character.