How to be edgy?

Troll opinion or not, Space Marines are maybe the edgiest thing in 40k and on Veeky Forums.

The problem is that being a Saturday morning cartoon villain or sadomasochism fetishism isn't really how you get edgy nonsense; you make an unrepentant anti-hero with contrived methods of success and basically every combination of edgy buzzwords.

>ANGELS OF DEATH
>FLESH TEARERS
>BLOOD ANGELS
>IT IS BETTER TO DIE FOR THE EMPEROR THAN LIVE FOR YOURSELF

These are all the calling cards of the edge. If /co/ can admit Judge Dredd is edge lord central you can accept the same for its derivative.

There's actually a lot of contention about whether or not it's a parody.

Mostly because it says Coldsteel likes the band Nine-Inch Nails, but apparently hates lead songwriter Trent Reznor.

>The weak should fear the strong,
>The stupid have no right to live
>You're first mistake was getting in my way, it will be your last.
>Pssh, your phony god can't save you now.
>Pigs don't get to live.
>DIE DIE DIE DIE

Fucking Shadow the Hedgehog and Rouge the Bat had to make everything awkward. Shadow allowed copycat hedgehogs and edgy characters. Rouge awakened the sex drive and made it okay for Sonic OCs to be reasonably attractive.

Remember user, lots of blood. You need lots of blood. So you better start having millions of periods all over the place.

The worst part about Kai Leng is that the Player will easily kick his ass in game but cutscenes save him every time.

What the fuck are those pants?

Honestly, Kai Leng is like a textbook example of everything you should avoid when creating a recurring villain for the party.

What, your skintight pants don't have airflow windows where the pockets would be?

Everyone just went on and on about how badass he was and how we had to watch out or he would teleport behind us wand unsheathe katana or some shit and he was super hard to kill.

>Fails to assassinate anyone on the council. Gets fought off by a terminally ill Drell. Completely and irrevocably ruins any future chance for Cerberus to take control of the council.
>Fails to kill Miranda despite dropping out of an air vent onto her and having every advantage
>Out numbers Shepard and friends 30 to 1 and has an attack helicopter. Shepard and friends kill all of his friends, beat up the helicopter and slap him from one side of cathedral to other and back again. Leng survives because the building fell down on top of Shepard. Still manages to fail at killing Shapard.
>On home turf, Outnumbers Shepard and friends 30 to 1 not counting the army of his dudes we had to get through first, keeps getting regenerated from environment. Goes to sneak attack Shepard from behind whilst Shepard is fucking around with computer. Gets stabbed to death by Shepard who didn't even have to get out of the chair.

Was this meant to be a comedy character?

You hit the nail exactly on the head.

I ran a Mass Effect RPG where the recurring villain only became one because the party spared her the first time around. The second time, she ambushed them after a particular tough battle and kidnapped the party leader. Every roll was made right there on the table.

I'd love to watch Thane in his prime beat Leng like a redheaded stepchild.

It would probably not be that entertaining.

A very brief flurry of action and then Leng falls over dead with blood pouring out of his mouth.

Assuming Thane didn't just sniper rifle him from 2 miles away.

...How is that edgy again?

You must refer to the 70 year old wizard as 'kid'.

Never show your face ever, even when it makes complete sense to do so.

Parents dead.

Wield katana, or katana like blade. Even if it is not a katana mechanics wise, you will refer to it as a katana.

Never feel any pain, it's always tolerable.

Anything you do not have or are unable to obtain is for the weak and is a sign of weakness.

Jesus fuck, I can't believe someone at bioware actually thought he was cool

OP here, this all good shit.

Katana would've been great, but I decided to dual wield parrying daggers instead

Have one strapped to your back, a familiy heirloom.

Make it a point never to unsheath the katana unless someone "truly deserves it."

>I can only sheath it when it draws blood.

But make just about everyone "truly deserve it" because "everyone is evil and this world is hell"

fucking kek, I build him to a be a dagger specialist, but that's too perfect

Always remember to teleport behind people.

Nah, it's gotta be one of those "intentional handicap" gimmicks. He only draws the katana if he truly thinks it worth his time and effort to kill you with it.
>I've not had to draw it in years. Yet it still cries out for blood. I wonder if you could sate such a starving blade.

Remember to drone on about how perfect the blade is and how you are so sick of this masterwork longsword bullshit.

>sarcasm.png

I was trying to give it an aspect of him being super pissy at the world, but your idea does make more sense for an edgy character than mine does

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>Fails to kill Miranda despite
IIRC that only happens if you 1)romance her in ME2 and 2)Decide to keep the relationship going when she shows up and asks about it.

Thane is a perfect example of how you can make an "edgy" character cool. He's like sci-fi Altair.

Isn't Reaper an intentional parody?

I never romanced her and saw it on the security footage at Sanctuary.

Huh. I did romance her and then called it off in 3 because I figured Shepard had bigger things to worry about. Then KL nuthin personnel'd her two thirds of the way in.

Don't play a traditionally edgy race (like a drow), instead play something unexpected (say a halfling) with an angsty backstory.

mods, purge this heretic please

Flavour his daggers to be tanto or whatever the Japanese tiny swords are.

Depending on the type of edge you want, you can either go for the assassin's hood or the trench coat. Either way, lots of layers and leather.

Yea. Thane is the hero edgelords should try to be instead of over the top edge.

If you're ever bored and want a laugh, just browse some RPoL games for edgemastters.

at least 3 belts on his waist, another pair across his chest.

>RPoL
?

I find it funny how Altair, Ezio, Haytham, Connor and Edward were all very non-edgy characters.

Connor toed the line, but I chalk that up to a combination of his native heritage and the possibility he legitimately had autism.

But you're right, for a bunch of people who were famous members of what is essentially a death cult, none of the PC assassin's ever reached edgelord status.

>Ezio was just a very angry young man seeking to avenge his family
>"Requiescat in pace" is an edgelord calling card line

Ezio was a Trickster at heart as evidenced by the vast majority of his behavior.

"Requiescat in pace" literally means "Rest in Peace" and when the Assassins say it they are genuinely wishing their targets a peaceful rest in the afterlife which is the exact opposite of what an edgelord would do.

Connor was DEFINITELY autistic. Amazing tactical and combative knowledge, but he was completely shit in social situations and couldn't plan for the long term at all.

I romanced Tali in ME2, and Miranda survived KL. But, I also did her loyalty mission, so... I dunno.

See now you're starting to touch on the real hart of the edgelord problem. Which is they take a lot of things which are cool, or even just innocuous when done by a certain character they like, and apply it completely out of context or in a manner which is just grating.

"Requiescat in pace" is part of Ezio's flair. He's a chatty fellow and that phrase is just him dropping a common phrase in a period-appropriate language. It's just him expressing typical Assassin rhetoric about how any ill will he has towards his target doesn't transcend the current life.

Edgelords miss the mark, and see it as more of a boast. It's the same shit as "nothin' personal, kid". It's the superior fighter expressing a sort of disdain towards the person with weaker skill and training. Like the edgelord character always knew victory was a given.

A lot of behavior we associate with edgelord characters feels completely normal and almost cool when applied to better-written ones. Look at almost any Harrison Ford character and you'll see behavior which in almost any other circumstance we'd call edgy.

I still can't believe they thought the story some asshole wrote on a napkin was cool

Funny how 40kids think criticizing their game in a relevant thread is a bannable offense.

Psssh, kiddo... edge isn't something you can aspire to, either you've got it or you don't.

Nasu is that you?

are you baiting or just autistic? He was clearly just joking

>Romanced Tali

Disgusting.

>But, I also did her loyalty mission

I did too. I guess it only happens if you romanced her in 2 and then rejected her in 3.

>dislikse: kevin robinson from school fuck you kevin stop showin evryone my fuckin deviantart you peace of shit

>trent razner

>my dad

Yeah, that stuff makes me think it's probably not legit.

DA spergs do call out people in their real lives. Just not in their actual OC biographies.

Rpol.net (Roleplay Online)

It's a play by post site.

I once made an NPC in a supers game. the whole point of him was to be edgy to a joke
he looked exactly like pic related but whith black sun glasses
His power was any gun he touched immediatly transformed into a double barrel version, as well as having *teleports behind you* tier shit sometimes.
damn, i should GM again, that was fun.

Would've been very disappointing if Shepard just ignored it.

As far as I know, the requirements for her survival is completing her ME2 loyalty mission and to forewarn her about Kai Leng (after reading his dossier).

(also Tali romance best romance)

Unless it's already set, your last name should be mashed together from what I call the "Liefeld phonemes". Blood, doom, dark, kill, shot, dead, death, gun, fist, you get the idea.

As for things to say:
>I'm beyond saving.
>I'll teach you to mess with (token character created solely to be killed)!
>I don't believe in forgiveness.
And quote nü metal lyrics like it's badass.
>I'll cut your life into pieces!

Correct. Though I'm pretty sure she also dies if she's not loyal.

Tangent: anyone else think Miranda would've made a great Spectre? Her ability set kicks ass, she can lead a team, she exposed Cerberus's top-secret plan while they were trying to hunt down her, specifically.

I always wanted Leng to have a run in with Samara, just so we could watch the little DMPC fuckball get curbstomped.

So, angsty Aoshi from Kenshin?

Sorry but I can't imagine kissing a girl who breathes chlorine.

I can't really see it. She's got the physical and mental capabilities but she never seemed all that interested in getting her hands dirty. Unless it involved her sister.

Start by doing herbs (drugs) and work yourself up (down) from there.

If you're playing them for comedy you've already failed.

Edge is when you do all this shit and expect to be taken 100% seriously. No humor at all. You are deep, mysterious, and cool. You are the most mature player at the table and if someone else makes fun of your character that just proves how childish they are.

Be 14 again.

I've decided that Kai Leng's implants don't actually increase his reflexes or strength any. Instead, they're nano-fabricators that dispense a cloud of nanites into that air around him, rendering everybody who breathes them in mentally retarded. That's why, in every cutscene he's in, Shepard and all his allies suddenly become totally useless.

He may or may not be parody. Even if he isn't, the other characters are just as silly and over-the-top as he is so it isn't like he sticks out very much.

I mean, McRee even has BAMF carved into his belt buckle.

She said she would've just lead the mission to the Collector Base herself, but the Illusive Man wanted Shepard. In a bit of dialogue when you talk to her early on in ME2. If I'm remembering right. Plus she volunteers to be both the tech expert and the biotic expert (ill-advised as those both would be).

I kinda get what you mean, that she comes off as superior, but she's there holding the line with everyone else.

I feel like she has the right skillset, but as a character, she just ceased to impress me so utterly that I wouldn't want to give her the special treatment.

Actions and Character Traits:
>spikes and unnecessary cutting edges on all equipment
>black and red everything
>acts like a dick to every NPC
>acts like a dick to party members, generally uncooperative in the most stupid ways
>unnecessary insults
>unnecessary brutal or graphic violence--decapitations and dismemberment on a regular basis
>anime-tier fighting style and weapon choices
>one liners whenever possible
>maniacal laughter at inappropriate times
>kills people and steals things for no reason, especially when other options are obvious

Lines when fighting:
>"Blood will flow."
>"You weren't strong enough."
>"You was weak. Don't waste my time again."
>"Why do weaklings always have to be so loud?"
>"Heh."
>"You can't escape your fate."
>"Your soul is mine."
>"Your blood is mine."
>"Let the blood rain."
>"Your existence dishonors me."
>"You were a mistake. I'll fix that."
>"I am the strongest."
>"All that matters is who is strongest."

Lines when injured or defeated:
>"Damn."
>"Not... here..."
>"Heh."
>"You're pretty good."
>"To think the likes of you... could even touch me..."
>"To think I could be bested by someone like you."
>"He's fast!"

>Isn't Reaper an intentional parody?
He's never treated like a comedic relief character as far as the actual storytelling is concerned, but he does get mocked relentlessly by pretty much everyone else in-game for being an edgelord. Honestly I think that's a pretty good direction to go with him.

The story takes him seriously, but the other heroes don't?

He's as tough as anyone else in the cast and its not like he trips over banana peels for comedic effect or anything, he just acts like his typical edgelordy self while doing villain stuff and other characters occasionally make snide comments about it.

Make an asshole with a grimdark backstory and turn it up past ten. Also make sure any flaws are actually positive qualities(e.g., vampires) or that they are only flaws by proxy of their terrible awesomeness.

Always bear in mind that this is not about exploring a character, it's about wish fulfillment. Edgy 12 year olds are edgy because they want to rebel against societies rules and conventions without any understanding of what they are rebelling against.

example
> has a tragic backstory
> has tattoos
>totally dark and evil
>conflicted about how dark and evil he is and agonizes over it
>cynical to the point of absurdity
>be a bitter mean spirited confrontational asshole
>but it's only because you're surrounded by people who don't understand

People throw word "edge" like it means something, but I don't think it means anything.

>"You're pretty good."

It does now. It has for a couple of years.
People make words, the internet is a lot of people.

I tried to play a really edgy wood elf who always wanted to just kill shit and otherwise spent all his time brooding alone.

Ended up being the party dad; mentoring the other PCs and taking them on hunting trips and shit.

Don't agree with the "when injured". Too many compliments. My suggestions:
>"I tested your strength. NOW THE REAL FIGHT BEGINS!"
>"Bleeding only makes me stronger."
>"You will suffer..."
>"Your attacks are so weak I don't even have to dodge"
>"You think that can kill me??"

I has its own meaning for everyone but nobody really agrees.

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oh jesus I completely forgot about that fucking edgelord character in ME

that happens with a lot of words

>maniacal laughter at inappropriate times

I think "smug chuckle" is edgier than outright mad scientist laughter.

youtube.com/watch?v=XA-4B2d4L18

I look forward to about one week from now, when there is a post thinly veiled as a that guy GM thread, complaining about how the GM totally rejected a dark, but original character and killed it off the first session

It's missing "dislikes trent raznor". Little details y'know?

I always assumed he was a sort of running gag character.

Like that dude you meet in the first game who spends his life idolizing and trying to be Commander Shepard. A joke character and mockery of all the super serious weeaboo fightan magic ninja characters.

And that would have been fine and quite funny if it had been the case. But the way the others spent the entire game sucking his reputation cock and generally worshiping the ground he walked on was a little too far.

He spent his career that we saw getting bitch slapped by The Shepard, surviving by luck and dying like a little bitch.

The letter was just stupid.

Well I mean... it's a very common layout. When you have that kind of space restriction there's only so many variants you can have.

I came here just to post this.

He doesn't follow a religion and he constantly derides and calls into question the intelligence of those who do, and have him assume everyone he meets is religious

If he was a running gag character he wouldn't have killed one of the most likable characters from ME2

>He doesn't follow a religion and he constantly derides and calls into question the intelligence of those who do, and have him assume everyone he meets is religious
I have a friend who's exactly like that. I've taken numerous region classes at university, specialized in political theory and cultural studies, and I went to catholic school when I was in my edgy nihilist phase. I know enough about religion to make an informed choice about my personal beliefs. His response is always some long winded pseudo-relativistic diatribe about the futility of existence and the meaningless of whatever. He's a freaking business major, but acts like he's king atheist, lord of dick mountain. The worst part is, I generally agree with him, but I'd prefer to live a happy delusion then some edgy fag factory because one option is clearly more socially productive than the other.