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Tactical Marines are now 10 points each, for:
4 4 4 4 1 4 1 9 3+
What gun do they have, and what do you balance the other basic troops to?
Thats the stupidest idea Ive ever heard, unless you want to kill the game by the making the armies even bigger than they already are and we all know how that turned out for WHFB.
If you're rebalancing the entire game, it doesn't matter what points value you balance around. If ratios and rules stay the same, people will just play at lower points values.
>game ends up becoming balance
>Veeky Forums would probably still be whining
Tau players would explode.
Could you mind bringing popcorn for that?
That's not how you spell Space Marines.
>it's a shit on Tau players unprovoked thread
So i apparently need an 800 point Dark Angel Army for tomorrow, apparently its limited to one formation and all i really have is like 2 Dark Vengence sets, some extra bikes and a command squad, two trikes and two land speeders.
Also i have Sammael as an HQ.
is there anything i can do with one formation?
>apparently its limited to one formation
Do you mean Detachment?
>unprovoked
But not undeserved.
First eight Berserker conversions done. Warriors of Blood with CSM pistols and backpacks.
Looks a lot better than the official Berserker kit even with the leather boots.
Every time you start bitching about Tau players unprovoked, you doom another thread to be ruined.
>that's not how you spell WAAC players who'd play Orks if they were OP
Amen, brother.
maybe thats the trick, flood forums and make videos, includign battlereports how one army is soo much better. It has to be onethat appears to be good on paper but has major flaws.
Get the Waac players to buy the models, and find them cheap on ebay
Well there was that brief period at the end of 4th and the start of 5th where Nob Bikers were really good and WAAC players did exactly that. I remember quite a few converted armies from back then.
>Could you mind bringing popcorn for that?
Sure thing, I've got a hot air popper so it comes out light and fluffy every time.
Who's bitching?
One guy that cracks a joke saying 'Tau players heads would explode if 40k got balanced'.
And the hyper-sensitive Taufaggots start shitposting about undeserved whatever and ruined threads. Stop being a pussy, stop being a faggot. Laugh at jokes. You faggots clearly deserve your reputations.
That's not what happened when 2nd became 3rd.
See? What did I fucking tell you? It's already happening. This could've been a good thread.
I dig it.
>Implying tau and eldar wouldn't be a top tier army even if their bullshit options were taken away
I'm sorry you're so shit at playing 40k that you need a point and erase army.
>This could've been a good thread.
Are you new?
yes, that one
Vanguards with Arc Weapons to kill vehicles, good or no?
3rd didn't cut all prices equally, and dramatically changed the rules at the same time as cutting infantry costs.
To be fair, Tau user did seem to over react to what seemed a harmless jab.
So honestly I think the generic Daemon Prince looks like pants. Any recommendations for a good proxy to build a DP of Khorne out of?
>did seem to over react to what seemed a harmless jab.
A jab isn't harmless if it makes people start bitching. That's harmful.
Who here has Tabletop Simulator and is willing to play over it?
My buddy I usually play with just got lasik surgery and I really want to try out my Genestealer army.
>Marines have always been top tier bullshit army
Newfag please, abstain from posting if you don't know what you are talking about, i believe it's the first edition they have actually been a solid tier 1 army
But overall army points cost dropped. It stopped being a skirmish game.
If you infinite money, what dream army would you make, and what joke army would you make?
Full-fledged Tyranid hive fleet for dream army and Orks with looted tau stuff, counts-as
Oh please let this be a thing, I need to paint mine before this and be ready when the faggots start flooding the faction, I can see it now, nothing but gorkanauts and other bullshit things.
this. Marines are glorified in the fluff and made out to be these unstoppable killing machines, but the reality of it is the armies are overpriced and you get fucking destroyed in wars of attrition. I found it utterly disgusting when I learned a fucking wraith knight only costs 50 pts more than a landraider.
>hur dur armour 14 lol oh noooo so scary
>10 lance weapons
>tank destroyed
>hehe lucky shot I guess
every eldar player ever.
No, you're in a 40kg, you give them plasma and ally cult mechanicus to spam heavy grav cannons.
>you get fucking destroyed in wars of attrition.
That's what the Guard are for.
:^)
>makes people start bitching
Oh boy now you've done it, bitching about bitching leads to bitching every time without fail, now you've forced my hand and I need to reply to your post telling you that unwarranted jabs at people who bitch brings out more bitching!
>The Dream.
Imp Guard counts as everything army. I would buy all of the guns from every faction ever, then apply them with some bits to make Necron, Tau, Eldar, etc. Guardsmen.
>As a Joke army.
Ultranids (Nids count as Space Marines).
It would be grots. I10, T7, BS8, WS9, LD10 Grots.
Yeah, I can confirm this. I can usually make games go on till turn 4 or 5 by fielding only infantry and spreading them out to the max.
Do I win
no
Dream army
>Mad Max themed Speed Freaks army
>Converted to perfection
Joke army
>Imperial Guard IRA conversion
>all the soldiers wearing early 1900's european clothing
>armed with early 1900's weapons.
>If you infinite money
Buy Games Workshop.
Unfuck Games Workshop.
>what dream army would you make
Probably a maxed Living Tide formation, plus every other Tyranid formation in existence, maxed of course.
>what joke army would you make
I honestly have never given this any thought. Maybe mass Riptides. I don't know. Though a Hive Fleet detachment with 4 Tervigons and 240 gaunts seems pretty fucking hilarious.
>spamming anything
go fluff or go home.
Every fucking army should be fluffy. Tournaments shouldn't be a thing in 40k.
Real Army: 30K Death Guard
Joke Army: Probably some kind of Space Marine army based on Megaman X
There is always going to be the one bait guy per thread trying to make it seem that spacemarines are the most hated army.
Dream army:
> The entirety of the Raptors Chapter
Joke army(Which I'm actually now building)
> Entire regiment of Monstergirl abhumans
Sons of Antaeus Chapter Tactics.
I was thinking FNP and spending points to give Space Marines/Veterans +1T.
Maybe improvised boltguns with Gets Hot?
THIS THREAD NEEDS BINGO
The free tile for today is:
> BUSTY ROUGH RIDERS
Dream
1000 Sisters horde army for apoc.
Joke
Orkquisition, Deff Wotch and/or Orkanicus.
okay tg tell me if this is natural. please don't bitch:
Everytime i hear the word tau i want to kill everything ever. t
>But overall army points cost dropped. It stopped being a skirmish game.
My point is, you're mistaking correlation for causation.
Every unit in 40k costs 50% the current points cost, except for flyers. Would people start playing with armies twice as large? Or would they start playing at 750-1000 points?
Now, imagine squads double in max size, and unit coherency is decreased to 1". Also, transport capacity is doubled. All wargear costs are are eliminated. Squad morale is now dependent on squad size, like old Mob Rule but universal. The number of objectives per mission is doubled.THAT would increase model count.
3rd edition did a bit of both, but the latter is what caused the scale shift.
Most armies on the tabletop are nothing like their fluff.
Just out of curiousity, what would you consider a fluffy Tau or Tyranid list to look like?
This image continues to be tremendously outdated, even with the new additions
Sons of Antaeus (Progenitors: Unknown)
Silent Protectors:
As survivors of the Cursed Founding, the Sons do not have a good reputation, nor do they
interact that much with outsiders.
A Space Marine force that uses these Chapter Tactics may only ally or be allied with Imperial Armies, as Allies of Convenience save Adeptus Mechanicum Skitarii or Inquisition- who they cannot ally with.
Strength Supranatural:
The various Biologias augments added to the Sons of Antaeus by their reckless Mechanicum creators have made them supernaturally hardy and strong. This has influenced their tactics- they march headlong, silent and unwielding, into enemy fire.
Models with these Chapter Tactics gain the Feel No Pain (+5) special rule.
For 5 pts, Space Marines and Space Marine Veterans with these Chapter Tactics may add +1 to their Toughness characteristics.
Models with these Chapter Tactics and the Indepedent Character special rule may re-roll their FNP saves against shooting attacks if they have moved during the Movement Phase during their turn.
Improvised Munitions And Armor
Being cut off from Imperial Supply lines has...made the Sons improvise - almost to the point of tech-heresy. Their bolters are home-made contraptions more likely to jam and explode in battery than fire, and their armor is designed for maximum protection.
When firing Boltguns (including Combi-weapons firing as Boltguns) and Heavy Bolters, models with these Chapter Tactics treat them as having the Gets Hot special rule.
Space Marines or Space Marine Veterans with these Chapter Tactics may replace their Power Armor with Antaean Armor for 5 pts each.
Antaean Armor confers a +2 armor save, but grants the Bulky and Slow and Purposeful special rule.
Well, then let's have a thread about new topics for the Bingo post. The recent new additions are "Raptors user/Lias Issodon is Big Boss", "Tau Player bragging about 5 riptides in a casual game", and "Riptides are underpowered".
I know the Raptors user tile is still accurate, because raptors user posted in this thread exactly two posts above mine. You can tell it's raptors user because he will literally never shut up about how he's collecting the entire chapter.
The new tiles need to be either current memes, or shit that constantly happens on the board, or can be counted on to happen occasionally.. Such as the case of the tau player bragging about riptides in a casual game.
My dream army
>3 warlord titans
>4 Reavers
>2 Warhounds
>6 Murader bombers
3x10 Russ platoons with 5 B&Battle cannons, 4 variants, and one commander each.
>20 Enginseers with Trojans
>2 baneblades
>1 stormsword
>1 shadowsword
>1 malcador infernus
>100 scoins
>20 vendettas
>Macharius on a capitol Imperialis
My joke and part of my real army would be
>1300 conscripts
>65 priests
>65 commisars
>100 Ogryns
>400 sentinels.
>Tau
Congrats you're now a Necron Destoyer.
>Most armies on the tabletop are nothing like their fluff.
I know, but that doesn't stop people from hating on space marines.
>oh fuck off faggot marine players think your guys are so tough
>glory boys
>op marines omg str 4 t 4 lol wow 3+ so good wow
>kill 8 or 9 marines
>half the army is dead
>overwatch gets added to the game
>cause aliens needed another free round of shooting
>but its just bs 1 lol cry more noob
>ok so for overwatch I get 40 shots blah blah blah im an alien faggot
>dream army
Fury of the ancients Iron Warriors Army outmaxed, every slot a Dread can be taken and Perty with iron circle for the sake of it as Warlord
>fun army
Nids, only big bugs, painted like a mantis breed I forgot the name of.
It is. I don't hate Tau, I just don't have time for them.
wait wot m8. i don't know much about necrons.
Destroyers have "Preferred Enemy: Everything" for a reason, they fucking want to kill everything.
does anything have prefered enemy:tau
> Most armies on the tabletop are nothing like their fluff
I love to refer people to D-Scythes. Their fluff is that they literally rip people's souls from their bodies. On the tabletop, this translates to the ability to instantly vaporize tanks, and split huge chunks out of titans.
Do, uh... do you think xenos don't assault?
>If you infinite money, what dream army would you make,
God, I'd probably want everything. If I had to pick just one, it'd probably be some HH marine army. Dunno which.
>and what joke army would you make?
An Ork army made entirely of custom Kroot counts-as, modelled to be Kroot mercenaries that killed, ate, and looted an ork Waaagh.
Veeky Forums
More seriously I think there is but I'd need to go digging through books to find it.
They're ripping out the machine spirits.
Pssst. Hey, tech-brother, those aren't real
Calling out Carnac could be one, considering he doesn't turn up here much anymore it makes it less likely to happen.
And those fucking weird images some guy adds to his posts, like a cross between an avatarfag and a mentalist. "unfuckables" magazine fronts and collages of obese black metal bands aren't really related to 40k at all strangely enough.
Thought it was the limited AI in Imperial vehicles (usually using a Servitor brain).
But yeah it's sometimes meaningless too, like when talking about a hive scum's autogun.
>Just out of curiousity, what would you consider a fluffy Tau or Tyranid list to look like?
Depends on the theme, but it really comes down to not picking what's best on the table and spamming it, but picking what makes sense for your army.
I like footslogging Tyrants, I like warriors and pyrovores, so I put them in there.
Tau, I haven't done much with, but again, don't just pick what's good on the table, pick what you like the look of and fits what you're trying to do with your army, if you want one that's heavy on the Auxiliaries, have a bunch of em.
Basically don't min-max. I've seen too many fucking lists that were basically just a single unit x 10.
I would check IA2 to see if any Legacies of Glory give PE:Tau, but then I mentally slapped myself as I realized that none of the Legacies of Glory would ever give a benefit for a race that wasn't around for the Horus Heresy.
Yea no, I'm not buying that. Explain how ripping out the machine spirit of a land raider makes it explode faster when shot by lascannons?
You mean like these pictures? They're from some video the Alfa Legion guys made. it's called "Inquisitor: Retarded Edition". I thought it was weird too until I saw that video and recognized the images.
Dinosaur lover detected.
A Black Templar's bolt pistol begged the Emperor to not let it suffer an ignoble end.
>like a cross between an avatarfag and a mentalist
?
I don't know man. I just don't know. It's how I think it works.
>A Black Templar's bolt pistol begged the Emperor to not let it suffer an ignoble end.
Source?
And I think there have been references to digital ammo counters on some Marine weapons that requires some computing. The rest is probably the background human psychic effect on their surroundings (like a lower level Ork effect).
Legacies of Ruin might have some. Some of the Legacies are post Heresy after all.
The Damnination Crusade comic.
>dream army
The entirety of the ultramarines legion right before calth. Every single bit of it would have to be 100% lore accurate
>joke army
An unbound inquistion army consisiting of nothing but 1000 jokero and 10,000 servitors.
Nah shit like this.
lel
Yea, I just checked. No Legacies of Glory that grant Preferred Enemy: Tau. The only legacy that would realistically be useful against tau would probably be War on Murder, for Monster Hunter. So you can piss off tau players that spam riptides by rerolling to wound against them.
>Do, uh... do you think xenos don't assault?
honestly, no.
nerfed D weapon eldar harder.
fixed sniper rifles.
you're welcome.
Huh. Don't remember that but it's been a while.
It was the scene where the aliens dragged off the dead Templar and left his gun behind.
Legacies of Ruin seem to have most of the Xenos rules it seems.
>Perdus Rift Anomaly: Gives the vehicle Preferred Enemy (Tau), but also gives you a re-roll for the seize/forces the other guy to re-roll the seize.
Like I said it's been a while. I've read a lot of other stuff since then.
get your head out of your ass
>does anything have prefered enemy:tau
Yes, faith and fury given form, wielding the fires of retribution, the motherfucking OBSIDIAN KNIGHT!
Tyranid Warriors are now a Sergeant upgrade to Gaunt units, and if a gaunt unit has a Warrior they gain the Instinctive Behavior buff. Genestealers with a Broodlord now gain Furious Charge. Tyranid Primes are now 75 points and are non-compulsory HQ choices of 0-5. They can join units of 30 gaunts or 3 Monstrous Creatures and give +1 BS or WS to that unit as well as the Instinctive Behaviour buff. Footslogging Tyrants are now 2+ (winged tyrants go back to 3+), Tyrant Guard are now 2+ and Hive Guard are now BS5. Haruspex and Tyrannofex are both now 140 points, the Toxicrene is WS4. The Maleceptor is 155 points. Zoanthropes gain +1 WC for each model added to the brood instead of BoC+2. Tyrannocytes gain a Spore Pod assault, which is Drop Pod assault with the terms switched, and cost 50 base and +50 for the weapon options.
Well, why would anything?
They haven't been around long enough for any faction to have that much experience fighting them.
>Do, uh... do you think xenos don't assault?
Only the orks and look were they are, tyranids rely more on shooting and bodies than actually assaulting.
Handing out free synapse?
I don't think so.
I will when an alien army assaults me.
>I don't blame them for not doing it
>str 3 vs t4 after all
Those Ork changes are straight up awful. Just as an example, giving Orkanauts a transport capacity of 12 doesn't make them worth taking, and the fact that you think that it actually would shows that you don't really understand the basic issues with the Ork codex.
You could make that same argument against tau themselves, yet they have a couple of preferred enemy's I'm pretty sure.
They've left an impression though. Stealing up men and women from the Imperium turning them to mindless weeboos, shooting everyone before they get into assault(Nids, Orks, Khornates), and they probably raped a Farseer.
is that a boy or a girl?