Why don't intelligent monkeys or apes show up in more fantasy settings?

Why don't intelligent monkeys or apes show up in more fantasy settings?

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Retro meme.

Maybe not fantasy but it's a niche scifi trope.

They didn't talk in this one but they sure were obnoxious.

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I wonder if I will be banned.

>inb4 /pol/

If we do... I'll probably get more reading/video games done in the three days.

Also in althistory Nazi Occult armies.

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Would be neat if more than the first two issues were translated.

Not sure if SRS.

I mean, pretty much every setting has humans.

Seconded.

They show up once in a while in Groo.

Fear of racism

they are called dwarfs

They call themselves "Ooks."
Lesser races pronounce it "Orcs."

I have a soft spot for these monsters.

Would climb/10

> intelligent monkeys
You mean humans?

They are called humans.

Settings can have merfolk, catfolk, dog people, and so on. Humans are ape-people.

No need to chimp out.

No.

source?

Because most fantasy takes place in quasi European medieval settings, which tend to be short on monkeys and apes in general.

Kouya ni Kemono Doukokusu

Is the monkey the biker girl that the dude had sex with?

It's one of my dreams to one day run a fantasy game of Terra Primate.

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Most settings have niggers user

Aren't humans basically intelligent apes?

Red guards excist

Elder Scrolls has them, they live in Valenwood shave themselves and try to act like High Elves, so they're a bunch of cunts.

I want to say early editions of D&D also had intelligent apes as well.

Nah, she's a different character.

I want to fuck that ape.

Humans are intelligent apes, yes.

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5th edition literally has one on its character page for "human".

Because nobody wants to play black people except in modern settings.

Because tolkein.

Those damn ape-demons, I tell you.

They do :^)

I am p sure it happened a ton in the Conan stories

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Das raysist mayne

If I could translate I would...

That's porn, isn't it?

I was fucking around with a system, and thought it'd be funny to have "half-humans" alongside the standard "half-elves" and "half-orcs".

the trouble with that is that it means coming up with a general "place" or "niche" for humans.

Thought I had something at one point with the idea that humans were "monkey people"... then I followed that logic to its ends and realised that monkey people would:
be really agile (+2 dex, etc...)
be really sociable (+2 CHA)
Live in forests and wooded areas...

It was then that I realised that tolkien's wood elves are basically just a rehash of the monkey people from the indian mahayana!

The elves were monkeys all along!

>sex, but no porn
I'm sad.

>Why doesn't intelligent humans show up in more fantasy settings?

Oh my god you stupid faggots he obviously meant anthropmorphic monkeys or humanoids with more ape features than humans, why do you have to be so fucking pedantic?

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Well I'm out of monkeys.

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FUNNY MONKEYS HOO HOO HAA HAA

D&D Campaign settings with intelligent apes.
As far as Ive been able to tell, all of them with the exception of Ravenloft, and I think Darksun.

Pathfinder's Golarion
There's like 3 of them. One is a player race. No, I'm not talking about the Mwangi.

Outside of D&D, ape races tend to be fairly rare though. Intelligent apes are a mainstay of comics though for some strange reason. And with Overwatch's popularity and it featuring a playable ape characters, we should see a resurgence in their popularity.

You know saying that summons the /pol/ack?

Protip: I prefer Conan's take on a sentient "apeman".

It's Po-Ju. That should answer your question

Does anyone else remember that cartoon from the 90s, with the monkey space crew?

>quad nips

>humans
>intelligent
>implying

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>zidane
worst monkey

they do, they're called 'humans'

>Apes are simply men who became apes for political reasons. If you make certain political choices and end up in exile then you just become an ape. Therefore all apes have strong political views which are very important to them and this depends on the kinds of Ape.

I play in Glorantha so this isn't a problem for me.

Fallen London has the super creepy Pentecost Apes, which become more intelligent (or at least more human) by stealing souls.

I'm immensely fond of the planet of the apes reboot and the depiction of their tribal but well-working society, I want to see more of that sort of thing.

That post alone got me to buy The Art of Not Being Governed.
I still need to get around to reading it.

Technically, Kaiser-era occult armies.
Germany in the 1910s, and the USSR in the 1920s, devoted resources to researching whether great apes could be made into super soldiers. The answer, obviously, was 'no'.
Despite the common tropes, the Nazis were uninterested in uplifting apes, for reasons that should be fairly obvious after a moment's consideration of their thoughts on race.

I just saved the picture, what's she from?

>the Nazis were uninterested in uplifting apes, for reasons that should be fairly obvious after a moment's consideration of their thoughts on race.
I've never encountered someone, or read any fiction, who thought the Nazis wanted to UPLIFT apes. Just use them as disposable freaky science cannon fodder.

It did happen regularly in Conan & other pulp, which is a big part of why not having them in settings is so weird & dumb.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Simian_&_the_Space_Monkeys

youtube.com/watch?v=ufWiRh6HiXg

The girl monkey was pretty cute too.

>she

>she
Sure, why not.

That's a dude?
... It's staying in the monstergirl folder.

It's worth pointing out that this one is kind of exceptional for Po-Ju, because straight shota, he usually does just the "regular" shota.

Also there's apparently OVAs of this now. I'm penciling them for the weekend.

What's the story called?

read the filename

What exactly is supposed to be ape-like about her? That's an elf with pointy teeth, user.

Because highly intelligent monkeys that kept monkey strength would be pretty hard to deal with.

It's Zidane from Final Fantasy 9.

Zidane? ...Do they imply that football players are apes?

While some apes do their share of "acting", I don't think you can teach them to fake injuries.

Isn't Zidane a man?

I bet an ape could give a decent headbutt.

Yes.

Fanart doesn't care.

OP said intelligent monkeys.

Her libido

Because that's a sci-fi trope.

What would you say should be the characteristics of intelligent monkeys?

I think it depends on how much their society reflects their biology and mating habits.
Do they become monogamous or do they continue to exhibit extreme sexual dimorphism (or trimorphism with orangutans) and penchant for large harems of females and sub-males that the alpha-males compete for?

Shame that Terra Primate never really made it. I suppose that compared to zombies the idea really is sort of more limited.

(Shame that Eden Studios went and quietly died, in general)

>(Shame that Eden Studios went and quietly died, in general)

They're experiencing a minor rebound. Supposedly Beyond Human is finally coming out after almost a decade in development hell, then there's talk of an OGL for Unisystem.

This is why.

Generally because either:
* It's seen as too silly.
* They're seen as too furry.
* We already have orcs.

What settings have ape-like orcs?

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That's dude user, and he's the Protag from FFIX. He's a member of a bandit group that masquerades as a traveling theater.
He's also an artificial life form who was created as the second version of a sewer of death in order to divert souls and life from one planet to a dead planet
The reason he looks bishy is because FFIX had a Baroque theme to it.
In the Dissidia Fighting Game, he's a pretty good air fighter for beginners.

Of course I forget pic

Chronicles of the Void has an entire race of Kung-Fu Monkey People.

what game is this?