>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list. mtgcommander.net
>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices. tappedout.net
>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck. mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet. edhrec.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity. manabasecrafter.com/
Euro-bros, where do you buy your singles/booster/boxes
Lincoln Mitchell
Humble Defector's one of my favorite cards, I even run it in my Mizzix deck. I could use better draw, but this guy distracts people from thinking I'm the bad guy.
William Flores
r8 h8 materb8
Jace Baker
Singles on magiccardmarket.eu, sealed product usually in my LGS.
Camden Thompson
Going off-topic for a sec, didn't a Wizards online article sort of spoiled/hinted it was Emrakul that is the cause of SOI?
Dylan Hall
Yes, IIRC Jace tried to talk to Sorin about the Eldrazi, but then Soring understood that "he went right into the trap"
Elijah Roberts
Surprise beater with evasion and can be a blowout if your opponent is not expecting it
Jaxon Bell
that is shit on so many levels it is a two one how is that good in anyway in edh.
Wyatt Mitchell
Which article/card was this shown?
Luis Hughes
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Brayden Gomez
id really like to run this guy with homeward path
Jace Ortiz
>47684713 Running him in Kiki-Jiki myself. I can also see him working in tandem with Homeward Path or with white recursion like Sun Titan.
Justin Adams
Thanks, I was looking for this thread earlier but it wasn't up yet.
Nathaniel Diaz
SoI was caused by brown people from kaladesh in ornithopters
Emrakul will be tentacle raping ravnica when captain jacemerica gets back to return to return to ravnica part 2 electric boogaloo
Ok: Inkwell Leviathan, Entomb, Corpse Connoisseur, frantic search, thirst for knowledge, compulsive research, Jin-Gitaxias, Sheoldred, Death's Shadow, Phyrexian Dreadnaught, Catalog, Reanimate, Animate Dead, Phyrexian Delver, Living Death, Thrun the Last Troll, and Consecrated sphinx
Ethan Murphy
I would recommend selling your Kalitas, Abrupt Decay, and True Name Nemesis. I would also cut Oona, Glistening Oil and The Genesis Hydra, Replacing these with some Juicy reanimator targets (Void Winnower, Jin-Gitaxias, It that Betrays Etc.).
Michael Gonzalez
My friend calls that card the Card Draw Barber
Jaxon Bailey
>Sell your kalitas, abrupt decay, and true name nemesis
And get a whole whopping $30? That will pay for the consecrated sphinx and not much else
Jordan Thompson
what about KMC sleeves?
Polite sage
Anthony Price
Well, the Kalitas will never be worth more than it's worth now. At absolute most, if the next set makes standard vampires a big deck, it may be worth more, but it would take some fucking sweet vampires.
Charles James
Except the part where foil kalitas is $50 alone
Levi Wilson
Except people are money grubbing jews and will only pay $18 for it tops.
Connor Sanchez
I like your thinking, ill give you $20 for any foil EM mythics you pull maybe 25 for a FoW
Also ill give you $100 for your car and $500 for your house
Ryder Torres
Kalitas is played in modern jund thats why it has value, otherwise it would be a bulk $5 card like the rest of the standard cards
Jonathan Ward
He's right you know. Selling those foils is incredibly hard. Your best bet would be selling to a store, and they wouldn't pay even 50% of the price.
Jack Parker
but the combination of it being worth stuff in modern and in standard that's going to make it the most expensive now than it probably ever will be. I mean, I could be wrong, but I don't see why
Luke Sanders
Hey I'm just being real here. People want things next to nothing or just for free and my FLGS doesn't buy any cards or do trade ins for store credit.
Alexander Martin
Add more draw/discard and some more fatties, you pretty much want a bunch of stuff in the graveyard for t4/5 mime, then have some ways to protect it
Lucas Murphy
I totally agree, when it rotates it will probably lose value, unless people find more uses for it in other formats then the price will stabilize or rise after boxes stop being opened, i dropped standard just before theros rotated out and got about $850 store credit for everything that would be worthless in a few weeks, so glad i did
Austin Davis
True, this is why you have to offload standard cards on release day i got back twice the cost of my soi box after putting everything on ebay an hour after i opened the box
James Smith
I like the vivid lands yet they come into play tapped and yes they only have 2 counters but those first 2 turns they can produce any color can really save you, even then they still produce regular mana as well, edh is generally not a 4 turn format so the drawback isnt the worse for the mana fix it provides
Ethan Flores
I fucking hate the vivid lands because of the counters. The fact that I have to put a die on it, or mark it in some other way is such a pain in the ass. When I go from playing my decks that I've went and bought a decent (note, not super expensive) mana base to playing my super budget decks with vivid lands, it drives me crazy. As soon as you decide to put $25 into a mana base, you realize that for two color decks, you don't need to bother with lands that are physically cumbersome. And with three color decks, you don't really need them either.
That said, maybe I'm just mad for no reason. It just bothers me when tapping my lands and organizing them becomes harder to do because of a stupid die on one of them.
Leo Lopez
Just had one of my more delicious moments.
>playing Melek against Iona, Angry Omnath and Lovisa >Iona player is 1 white mana away from casting the large angel on his turn and he's absolutely naming red >my turn is before his >play Aggressive Mining >everyone looks at me funny >everyone is also tapped out >play Mana Geyser off the topdeck for like 20 some odd mana, replicated Shattering Spree to break all Iona's rocks, and Bust >Iona player completely flips his shit >doesn't scoop for like 3 turns, just complains loudly about being locked out of the game and asking Omnath or Kalemne to kill or O-ring the Aggressive Mining
I wanted him to know how it felt to be completely shut out of a game of Magic. I wanted him to taste true suffering
Hunter Smith
Fuck I forgot
I used Donate to give him the Aggressive Mining. That was the best part of the whole thing and I completely forgot it
Josiah Parker
>Jin-Gitaxias
Ok real talk here, why is every blue deck required to have Jin? The card draw can fuck you up more than help you more often than not and the reducing opppnent hand size is easily negated by reliquary tower or thought vessel.
Liam Ramirez
>Underrated cards edition
Christian Campbell
Off-topic noob question here, but when can I play an instant? Or more specifically, when can I play stuff at instant speed? I was playing last week, and I had a creature with the ability, pay 1 and tap to tap target creature. So this guy enters combat and declares his attackers, so I decide to tap one of his attackers at instant speed. He says that I can't do this because I need to play instants when he begins the combat phase. But don't I use his ability "before" the combat phase?
>iona player complains The ones at my LGS at least know they're shitlords.
Nolan Cook
>easily negated by reliquary tower or thought vessel >2 cards out of 99 are a sure thing
Luis Flores
>when can I play an instant? When you have priority. Google it and check out the images section.
Matthew Robinson
Every blue deck is not required to have Jin. But I imagine it is good in Mimeoplasm, because it fills everybody's yards.
Leo King
There are other cards that give maximum hand size too, quit being a shit. You act like you never had a game where you get a somewhat similar hand
Mason Russell
He did not grasp the irony of the situation at all
Regarding your question, you could have used the ability during the beginning of combat step, when priority was passed. Whoever jumped right to declaring attackers is a shit and a cheater
Gavin Walker
There are. However the odds of even a minority of players having them out at any given time is not high. Which is why Jin-Gitaxis is great.
Landon Butler
They don't all require Jin, reanimator tends to want him though
Adrian Adams
The problem there is that "Combat" is broken into a number of different steps. It goes, and I could be forgetting a step because I'm exhausted, but: >Beginning of combat >Declare attackers step >Declare blockers step >Damage step >End of combat step
The issue was that you wanted to tap his creature at the beginning of combat step. Once it becomes the "Declare attackers step", he has priority to declare his attackers, and you cannot technically respond to him declaring attackers. You CAN use abilities before you move to your "Declare blockers step" but at that point, he's already declared who is swinging. By tapping his guy at the beginning of combat step, the guy is tapped before he even gets to the declare attackers step.
Definitely look up how priority works, because this issue is really a combination of how the combat phase works and how priority works. Again, I'm sorry if this is worded in a confusing way. I'm super tired, but I'm trying to help.
Benjamin Robinson
That's fucking ruthless. Holy shit.
Sebastian Rogers
Thanks, I get it now.
Gavin Rivera
you're doing God's work. keep it up.
Jason Adams
>new player shows up with Derevi >Derevi eats a Path when it enters >just drops that shit like an ugly baby into exile >right in there >right on into the "removed from the game" zone >doesn't bat a fucking eye about it >mind is fucking racing about what kind of insane secret tech could be in this deck
>2 turns later >"End of your turn, I'm going to put Derevi into the command zone from exile" >"What the hell? That's... not allowed at all" >"What? Yes it is, I can put the commander in the command zone from anywhere, whenever I want" >his face when we had to explain what replacement effects were
I can't even imagine what would happen if I had used Chaos Warp.
Austin Martinez
>new player >expect sekrit tech >not making the common sense judgement of assuming he doesn't know how it works
I mean, I feel like all of that is on you. At least tell me you let him put it in the command zone with the caveat of "now that you know how it works, don't do it again please"
Wyatt Diaz
He's new, you guys don't cut new players some slack?
Michael Baker
We're not total assholes, we let him put it back in the one time
That said we all looked at each other aghast when he put Derevi into exile. One guy asked if he knew it was going to be removed from the game, Derevi player said he knew
Gavin Hall
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Adrian Hughes
>Wasting a path on derevi Who was new?
James Wright
How is this chick for pauper commander? I have been looking around for a while for an etb abuse machine.
Also since I have never built a pauper deck can you guys suggest some common staples?
>blue white commons >worth bouncing I'm sorry, user, there's isn't much there. Mulldrifter is greater, mist raven, a few things that either draw or bounce on ETB, but then you still have to win somehow. There's just not enough value in there. The stuff with an ETB to return a sorcery/instant/enchantment from grave to hand could also be ok.
My friend has an azorius guildmage pauper commander deck that was meta defining control, though it was ridiculously difficult for it to win in multiplayer, as the only real win-con was beatdown with utility creatures while locking down everything of importance. I don't know if its fully updated with all the tech he discovered at common, so I'll also link his blue lu zun deck.
also: keep watch and theft of dreams are pretty much the best draw cards available at common.
Bentley Mitchell
>played EDH for the first time in over a month last Saturday >Sperged out over a super late reaction >I have doubts whether I'll be invited again >Not sure I even want to anymore
Feels bad man
Gabriel Kelly
Kaladesh is were the next set is gonna be right? I can't wait to see the art cause its gonna be good.
Jason Campbell
You can always apologize to the host, and admit to the social problems that it sounds like you have, while explaining that you will refrain from such outbursts in the future. I mean, if playing there matters to you, user.
Not trying to be a dick, I swear.
Leo Ramirez
Yes it will be Chandra: The Expansion with all of the thopter reprints from origins, alot of people hoping there will be a decent artifact based commander that is something other than red
Prepare for thopter tribal
Ayden Peterson
So do you guys think that Mana Crypt will be going down in price because of EMA?
Parker Martin
Yeah I was thinking as much when I was looking on gatherer the other day. Thanks for the links, I am gonna at least use the guildmage one as a guide to some blue stuff if nothing else.
Yeah I like that shit for sure.
Julian Gomez
>decent artifact based commander that is something other than red
user, we have that. Esper artifacts is the shit. Sydri is not a joke, nor is the sphinx who's name escapes me.
What people have been screaming for is a blue red artificer legend.
Aaron Williams
Not likely, its the first time its been printed outside of a promo, demand will only go up with the supply
Christian Diaz
>Sphinx who's name escapes me Sharuum the Hedgemon?
Jordan Hill
its already dropped tho, and the EMA version is the cheapest version
Mason Robinson
Hegemon**
like Hegemony
no d
Evan Butler
At least I was able to remember most of the name
Hudson Allen
Sheldon the Pokemon
William Wright
you got the double u right so snaps for you
Wyatt Wood
>Another night of EDH with the covenant at my LGS >Typical line up of Prossh Combo, Narset Combo, Malestrom Wanderer Combo, and my Derevi Stax. >About to start game when some late entries come in. >Two guys with Celestial Kirn and Zo-Zu. >Game was going well except both of the faggots played MLD and Board wipes constantly. >We keep giving them a hard time for ruining everyone's night with that degenerate shit. >Zo-Zu plays Devestation and counters my Force of Will with Red Elemental Blast. >My group universally concedes and calls the owner over. >We get both of them kicked out.
I cannot not believe people bring that shit to commander nights. Fucking cancer all of them.
Michael Garcia
It's cool.
I've reigned myself in a lot compared to how I used to be, which was mostly because of a That Guy who thankfully doesn't play anymore. He is the one who really got me into EDH, so I had some of his sperg habits. Thankfully, I've ditched most of them.
As for me, it's mostly life long major depression. I have no real outlets for it, and I try not to bog anyone down with it. In this case, I was already having a bad day because of unrelated tooth pain, and I was just done. In my defense, I could have handled it a lot worse. Instead of arguing, I just said I was done and packed up because it was the last game of the night anyway. He didn't take it so well and took back his response anyway, but I had already scooped.
I don't know. I almost wish I had just stayed home, but for other reasons I'm glad I didn't.
Chase Davis
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Dominic Gonzalez
That does sound very unfun but the way the situation was brought to a conclusion seems childish
Daniel Ross
>someone played a card that is legal i the format >played my counterspell >they countered my counterspell >had flashbacks to nam >charlie has us surrounded red communist cards everywhere >snapped out of it and wiped the cheeto dust from my beard >sand formed in my vagina >went to my parents to tell them my feelings were hurt >mom said i never have to play against a person with the card i dont like again >went home for tendies This is some real fucking manchild behaviour right here jesus fucking christ, never reproduce
Josiah Jones
Gg no rematch
Daniel Bell
That's some shit tier bait son
Alexander Flores
Good on you for recognizing your problems and working on them. That's how things get better, even if there's some rough patches.
I feel you user. I had a pretty good 2 month long period of depression not so long ago, and it's important to not be isolated. Friday night pathfinder and Saturday night EDH got me through. Do your best not to push people away, even if it's easier sometimes.
Ethan Cooper
>this is how self-righteous MLD fags see the world
Ian Clark
I like control and playing big things. recommend me a deck
Oliver Brown
zegana
Aiden Martin
So are there any people in your group that attacks you regardless of the board state because of shitty threat assessments? I am trying to figure out one asshole in my group
Hunter Perez
Nigga you have no idea how badly I want Izzet Artifacts
NO FUCKING IDEA
AND NO, NIN DOESN'T FUCKING COUNT
Eli Rogers
Derevi stax.
Luis King
>Typical line up of Prossh Combo, Narset Combo, Malestrom Wanderer Combo, and my Derevi Stax kek
Owen Torres
Ayy I know that feel. I did the same thing. I didnt go back for over a month. Wasted a lot of time on being a shit. Its good that you're working on your problems and are aware of them. As long as you have real friends they will understand. Mine did. Just try to keep calm and remember your past to keep from repeating the same mistakes. Also I get tooth pain a lot too, but make sure you bring some ibuprofen with you.
Ian Carter
Jhoira.
The fact that her ability can be used at instant speed leaves your mana open when responses are required. Then, when you have mana to spare, you suspend your fatties and big effects at end of turn before your turn.
Note, it is not required to run her with land wipes or eldrazi titans. That is the optimal path, probably, but it also significantly increases your chance of getting hated off the board.