Warmachine & Hordes General

>throw quicken on them

LOOKS LIKE DEF 17 IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

Source?

Yes, editing in the missing mk3 battlebox casters now.

Incidentally, anyone who wants to spend leaks to [email protected] is welcome to, and they'll get added to the list builder fairly quickly.

Time to lube up, heretics.

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Thanks, both will be up soon.

Is there any new unit for Protectorate? Or just a CA and solo?

What is Divine Inspiration?

add an additional die and drop the lowest on attack and damage rolls

Caster + 2 releases per faction

What's the solo?

Deliverer Armsmaster

Gives arcing fire and rerollable CRAs

Any word on what the Skorne Venator Dakaar does?

Undo doesn't update the point total at the top.

You rock btw

What'd circle get? And cygnar got Maddox and the rifleman, anything else?

Added all of these.

Try doing a hard refresh (ctrl+shift+r on Chrome or Firefox), you might have an older version of the code in your cache, as I fixed that one like half an hour ago -- at least, I fixed *a* bug with undo not updating point totals.

Stoneshaper solo, actually should be out at L&L

An awesome caster. Otherwise, dunno. But if someone were to leak the Circle cards, I'd add them to conflictchamber real quick ;)

Savio Acosta is erroneously 3 PC instead of 6

new edition out yet? how is it?

t. never played

New starter legion list. Also do we have rules for the new nyss warlord?

Kryssa +31
Angelius 17
Neraph 12
Boltthrower11
Raek 8
shredder 4
shredder4

Anyssa Ryvaal 8
Forsaken 4
Shepard 1

Hellmouth 6
Hellmouth 6

50points

official release date is Saturday night at Lock & Load

He's probably a 3 pt artillerist bot. Whoopdie doo. I'm more curious about the character beast we'll presumably get.

Fixed.

Occurs to me I also have the Mk2 cost for Hutchuck, as I haven't seen his Mk3 card yet.

Cygnar got Maddox, Arcane Tempest Rifleman solo and the Stormsmith Grenadiers

Do you have a list in mind?

SPD 6, MAT 8, DEF 14, ARM 13
1 initial, 1" melee POW 11 WM
Blade Shield, Cleave, Overtake, Precision Strike, Leadership: Precision Strike, Decapitation
5 points, FA 2

Oh god, not more of this "The fluff has a beast with a name" crap. Every other beast in the fluff has a name.

Anyone wanna throw some dojo in for this?

Yeah, the beast's model has been teased, but no one else is getting a jack or beast in Prime, so we may be waiting a while for him. No idea what we're getting other than the Stoneshaper.

Goddamn that does not look fun to play against.

Wimpy

Also needs Wish nailer

Mangler
Mule
Double nomad
Double renegade
Rover

Wish nailer

Ragman
Saxon

How do I combat this list with Cryx?

Strakhov +28
-War Dog -3
-Torch -18
-Victor -38
Widowmaker Marksman -4
Battle Mechaniks (m) -3
Doom Reavers + UA -16
Doom Reavers + UA -16
Widowmakers -8

Hm.

Yeah I just cannot bring myself to like AKs :|

If I did.

Strakhov +28
-War Dog -3
-Torch -18
-Victor -38
AKs -16
-Flamethrowers x3 -6
Black Dragons + UA -21 OR Uhlans -20
(IF Uhlans, THEN Gobber Tinker)

Does doom reaver UA have sacred ward or can you target then with friendly

Thanks

Forgot about Sylys, I'll switch Maddie for him.

I was also looking to add a Mangler, also I fucked up and thought Talons had Shield Guard. Meant the Rover or Vanguard.

-Talon x2
- Madelyn
-Kell

+Sylys
+Mangler
+Saxon

There we go, that should be nice and mean.

they all have spell ward. UAs too. no friendly spells either

Anyone know what a Farrow Valkyrie is? Check Helga's card.

I don't think they've been spotted yet.

clearly a flying pig

They might be a 'Forces of X' book release, seems like those books will have a new caster (not the BB one) and some new beasts/Jacks (Loki and the Legion Ballista Snek renders were shown)

Fuck.

Does nobody around here have this magical mysterious French prime book?

Decent, but 12/17 is pretty killable, and they lose a lot when he dies.

Seconding. French user here who can (and wants to) read it.

does he benefit the sunburst crew in any way?

Command 9 gives him a lot of leeway to hide like a bitch long enough for his unit to make combat, and Menoth is rolling in Shield Guards nowadays.

good thing there is vision, martyrdom and shield guard.
Its interesting that overtake is the tactics and not cleave. Means even if he dies they are going to tear it up with eKreoss

arcing fire does. both effects benefit plain deliverers

It's a good thing Deliverers are still shit. Otherwise someone might buy the new model.

Forgive my ignorance, I tend to drift in and out of Warmachine news, but whatever happened to the new Colossals that were supposed to come out? Where's the Menoth Revelator?
On that note, where's the Indictor warjack?

Third--where is this mystery book?

revelator was never actually released in mk2 (it wasn't the only one)

indictor is like 3 years late, like the inflictor. neither were actually made during mk2. was supposedly a supply chain issue. the grolar finally came out for khador after about as long (they're all from the same book)

problem is that the grolar and inflictor were good and somewhat needed, the indictor wasn't good or even wanted.

pow 18 guns aren't anything to sneeze at.
plus now that their uncombined attack is utter shit they will eat up way less clock

>the indictor wasn't good or even wanted.
The rules weren't good, but I've been wanting another sword and board jack for a while

Rules came out a year ago, models for all besides Cryx ended up being delayed past when Mk3 itself will launch.

They're still coming and look pretty good, I actually don't think there's a dud in the warmachine 2nd wave of colossals. They have had their Mk3 stats spoiled too and they're still pretty strong

The second gargantuans were more of a mixed bag and still haven't had their Mk3 stats revealed

the Inflictor for Cryx still hasn't come out. Khador's Grolar finally dropped a couple months ago though

I just have a hard time giving a shit about a single, unboostable, PoW 18 attack at AoE3.

If they were AoE 4 base, it would probably be alright.

Menoth has enough good gun jacks to not really need them.

Maybe they will get a UA that makes them more appealing sometime.

>The second gargantuans were more of a mixed bag and still haven't had their Mk3 stats revealed
blightbringer didnt change except to lose the bite and gain two claws with arcs (so it can actually use sweep attacks). it's still amazing. that's really all that matters.

Someone just needs to hack this;

files.privateerpress.com//rules/

There are all the rules, can't get around the permissions wall though.

The mk3 Indictor is actually pretty good.

I haven't seen Mk3 Revelator stats... you have spoilers?

Your forgetting that with the changes to battle and losing assault on the reckoner they are easily the long threating and most accurate gun in our arsenal.

got slightly cheaper too. Also the pow + str of the claws are 1 less than the bite.

>The second gargantuans were more of a mixed bag and still haven't had their Mk3 stats revealed
We've seen half of them. Still waiting on the Hydra and Zapdos for MKIII stats.

2 POW 17s + 1 POW 18 > 2 POW 18s

and sweep isn't amazing, but it's a nice option, especially when you have an inherent -2 DEF no tough bubble option

What are the back of the cards?

GK has to buy his shots
Will be good with one, maybe two Locks.

They shit the bed with him.

2 years ago.

Hydra is confirmed to be exactly the same, same cost (doubled) and having a handful more boxes but otherwise identical.

Sepulcher's recursion was trashed. Only collects corpses from enemy models now.

The warroom 2 data includes "Tharn Wolf Rider Champion" as a card title.

No, every faction is actually getting a character beast in the next (not prime) book. The Legion and Circle one have already had their sculpts shown. No rules yet.

The Circle one is a Warp Wolf with a shield and a hook on a chain (Lobo style). Looks pretty baller.

Any more tidbits in there?

So he is exactly the same... and he was good before MK3. So he is still good then eh?

Cool.

Here are all the titles:
pastebin.com/p4AL0F4R

So, Veeky Forums, are Satyxis nerfed to uselessness in this edition, or can I still run horn-waifus?

>khador man o war kovnik
>khador man o war officer
>khador man o war shocktrooper officer

hmmmm

>mercenary colbie sterling captain of the bri

>skorne praetorian karax officer & standard

>circle cassius the oathkeeper

He's called Wyrmwood now you sons of bitches!

FUCKING FINALLY!

Skornes been dieing for UA's for about a decade now.

Here's hoping it isn't just utter trash.

>Skorne is suffering

I saw a couple of duplicates, so I think officer and shocktrooper officer may be the same

Blood Witches pretty much got better. Raiders are now more infantry-mulch, less jam. Gunslingers can help clear them out with Black Penny.

Carrion Thralls are the real jammers.

>cryx captain aiakaos
schweet

>khador man o war officer

Knew it. The Demo Core looked retarded. I have a hunch that the war officer buffs every type of MOW.

>Sovereign tristan Durant

>sovereign tristan Durant

Bwuh?

New to Warmachine here. Where can I find information on theme lists that aren't covered in the Menoth army book? I'm really into the cavalry and the only 2 warcasters I have are Intercessor Kreoss and Servath Reznik Wrath of Ages, neither of which is covered in the Menoth book.
I've tried googling, but it looks like Battle College is down and I can't find anywhere else that would have it.

new edition comes out saturday wait till then.

Theme lists are gone until new ones get released in the indefinite future.

all the journeyman characters are becoming full casters at some point

existing theme lists don't matter at all at this point. wait until saturday/sunday when the new ones are released with the new ed.