>you fall in love with a beautiful girl (or boy) >get married to them >after a while they reveal their deepest secret >they're actually a demon who took the form of [your character's species] and ended up liking it better than being evil >but their true form is still demonic
Would you smite them?
Hudson Howard
By smite do you mean like, with my dick?
Easton Sanchez
Why the fuck didn't detect evil tell me anything?
Asher Ramirez
Because you are not the crusading paladin, or the all powerful wizard, you merely play one in a tabletop game.
Bentley Harris
Why are paladins consistently the worst and laziest players?
Jose Johnson
Maybe it was using some form of really powerful glamour to cover up it's true nature?
Come to think of it, is it even possible for a demonic entity to change alignments? If so is it still demonic after it changes?
Brandon Taylor
Detect Evil already told me they were up to no good, now I know what species they are. I continue to wait, playing the long game until I catch them in the act.
No this doesn't mean I don't enjoy fucking them. Just that I hope I can screw their true motives out of their black little soul.
Landon Jones
Well, as long as they didn't use to be male before. They're not evil now and it's not going to change anything about the relationship, so why does my penis care?
Adrian Ortiz
I'm a Kobold Gunslinger, I fell in love. What they actually are doesn't matter. Do they still like breakfast in bed? Does their nose still scrunch up just a little bit when they don't like something? That matters.
Landon Adams
>Detect Evil
Literally the worst shit to come out of DnD. All it does is kill roleplaying. Before my group unanimously decided to never play anything named "Dungeons & Dragons" again, we house ruled out all the Detect Alignments spells, along with any form of Wish.
William Miller
>>you fall in love Stopped reading right there.
David Jones
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Nicholas Reyes
Depends on how bagin' their daemon form is.
If it's like Xana tier futa god, then I'm in. If it's some spookster spikey abomination, no thanks.
Half demon kids must be pretty strong, right? She'll give birth to Dante or something. You can't pass that up. Who gives a shit about alignments.
Samuel Hall
my character would still be oblivious to her since my orc only love his beloved axe
Cooper Rodriguez
What if the axe is the demon?
Jace Evans
Angelskin Vest
Adam Wilson
Nah, love tenderly and then violently until my bed breaks.
Logan Jenkins
If you smite someone who gave up evil for a peaceful life you're the shittiest paladin ever.
Ethan Jenkins
So they prefer living a happy married life over being an evil demon? Shit, works for me. Lawful Good Dickings and all that.
Wyatt Foster
Nah man. My last rogue knows what it's like to live a hard life at first and then be tempted over by the calm0 peaceful life of good. If anything he loves her even more now with her demonic spiky bits.
Plus the tale of the legendary Rogue so skilled he snuck his demon wife past the gods so they could spend eternity together will make a great stort
Adrian Young
Depends. The official setting for this campaign is the godawful realms, where Orcs are aligned as Monster Stupid, so he would recognize it as "Gruumsh signal to keep warring for no reason. RAGE."
But it's all k if you fanboy over an edgy dark elf :^)
Jackson Ross
Good thing the Detect Good & Evil doesn't actually tell you if there's something good or evil anymore, RAW, it only detects if there are creatures of certain type around, including the almost always True Neutral Elementals.
Logan Richardson
>we house ruled
Hudson Wood
Because they think spamming Detect Evil counts as Roleplaying.
Anthony Richardson
Well, my character is currently a tiefling, so it'd be a matter of wondering why. It's hardly a big difference after all.
>smite Y/N?
Why? They're clearly not good.
Ayden Roberts
I think I might try this
>be GMing >have gay player, good RPer, plays Cleric of Talos, still needs me to spoonfeed him when it comes to making character sheets after a month and a half of playing >constantly nags me about giving him a gay lover >asks if litterally every character we meet is gay or not >for minor NPCs I roll a d20, 17 or higher means yes, they're homo >he never gets th 17+ >continues to bitch and accuse me of cheating and being homophobic
Thanks for the idea, OP.
Joshua Smith
wee, tiefling children Well, I will watch out for demonic behaviourr and keep some stuff to control the hellish temperament if she shows it. By the way, what kind of demon is she, and what setting are we talkin' about? That are important things in this question
Elijah Lewis
Have you given the other players girlfriends? If so I could understand. If not, tell him to stop being a annoying shit, because the game isn't about husbando/waifu
Isaiah Nelson
Honestly, that guy sounds like a horrible player. I'm sorry you have to deal with that. Have you tried telling him to stop whining and trying to turn the game into his gay romcom?
Easton Martin
>evil only Tieflings It's hard to tell which is worse.
Josiah Butler
I probably will next session. If he keeps whining, I either kick him or give him an unspeakably evil demon boyfriend. That could make for a fun sidequest.
Nathan Nelson
>Deus DEFINITELY Vult
Aiden Brooks
Demon not a Trebuchet How evil? Eats puppies alive in front of children because it arouses him, or are you gonna keep it subtle and insidious until the player is attached and emotionally invested?
Brandon Thomas
Well, there goes the Incubus then.
Jordan Bell
>Demon not a Trebuchet That's not mutually exclusive and you know it!
Samuel Thomas
>[x] Deus Vult >[ ] Deus Not Vult
Gabriel Phillips
No. She'smy wife and if she's beautiful then it would be on the inside and out. As long as she's good to our offspring and raises strong beautiful children then I don't care. A loving demon wife is good too.
Christian Moore
They took the form of [your species] though, so unless you're a trebuchet as well in which case Deus most definitely Vult and I apologise for my mistake.
Jason Lopez
It probably isn't evil
Jace Sanders
>Killing your waifu You don't deserve a waifu desu
Brody Gutierrez
Amen brother
Elijah Lewis
>you have an intense feeling that brings you satisfaction >after a while, you realize your feeling is shallow and goes against your ideals Would you pursue your ideals stalwartly or discard them in favor of fleeting feelings? Shall you fight for things that don't concern you personally, or shall you abandon them in favor of personal pleasure?
Elijah Jones
More subtle. I can give semi-obvious hints at it becaue, frankly, he's not that bright. The other players will likely figure it out but he will probably be blinded by "muh husbando" to notice.
Evan Moore
>>you fall in love with a beautiful girl
am I unable to confess, and then get gifted her phone number?
Jace Sanders
My hopes, desires and wishes will not stand between me and justice.
Liam Gomez
It could still be evil, just a lazy benign evil that doesn't want to deal with the consequences of committing evil acts.
Hunter James
>The one fucking time I decide to play an angel character... Regardless of character or , the objectively best answer is >Give zero fucks, produce and raise half-demon kids with knowledge of their ancestry but a sensible outlook on life. We aren't raising any angsty loners in our house, no sirree.
Robert Fisher
Would smite a milfubus with my dick and make a lot of tieflings with her.
Michael Cox
Why do you faggots think that bitching about a class doesn't count as dodging the fucking question?
Liam Thompson
See, I was just going to say that you have a shit DM. But if 'nuke it on sight' is the only way your group is able to deal with questions of morality...seriously, fucking kill yourselves.
Nolan Clark
Anyone who would need to ask that question in the first place is a class a retard, and not everyone is fond of catering to those.
Kevin Campbell
Well, if they aren't evil anymore why would I? Shouldn't I get some brownie points for reforming them?
Sebastian Rogers
Because they're only in the game to kill their party members and live out imaginary Veeky Forums memes.
Christian Walker
So if you had a child with them in their disguised form, would the kid still be half-fiend?
Grayson Bennett
>Being a paladin >Not being a nondescript "hero" >Not boning hot, benevolent demons
Zachary Young
>it's an anime thread
Connor Thompson
So then it's a vastly higher quality thread than usually occurs on this board.
Stop playing D&D. Stop playing paladins. Stop being such a cuckold.
Owen James
>The redeemed half-succubus is a paladin
Aaron Kelly
Yuusha is some kind of extremely overpowered magus, but he did say that the Spirit of Light, the primary god of the world, talked to him pretty frequently (I imagine it was more like harem antics).
Aiden Kelly
Why is she redeemed? Did she do something wrong? I thought the point was that she would grow up normally.
Sebastian Bell
Can she/it have children? If yes, then fuck her until she forgets she was a demon, have a nice family.
Adrian Williams
>Yuusha is some kind of extremely overpowered magus He's a high-level AD&D ranger.
Jacob Stewart
Man, why can't it ever be an angel, or a nature spirit, or what have you. I always get the demons.
Easton Roberts
Because demons are sexy and angels are not. And if you ask me, that's how it should be. Demons should represent the temptation of sin, the attractive option of getting your urges instantly gratified without any care of what happens afterward. On the other hand, angels should represent the difficult path of virtue, one you have to sweat and bleed for but will confer a delayed but much more valuable benefit.
A succubus' main appeal is pumping and dumping, an angel's appeal is trying to make your marriage work out in spite of your differences.
Kevin Taylor
Why do my choices have to be between Literally Satan and an embodiment of purest pure purity, where are the neutral spirits?
Carson Young
In Japan.
Noah Howard
Mortal women or jinris.
Charles Wilson
What do you want, some kind of pure slut?
Julian Price
Can't be worse than the borderline yandere girl who nearly killed me. Sure what ever, no problem.
Ian Williams
Depends are the willing to get baptized into the Catholic Church. If not I'll go get an exorcist or something.
>tfw demon waifu gets baptized redeemed, and now I'm married to a risen angel waifu.
Aiden Roberts
Rude.
Camden Sullivan
>angels aren't sexy >implying you would want to go with the Law alignment versus Neutral succubus
The fuck is wrong with you??
Owen Martinez
5e removed detect alignment.
Now it's "detect demons" or "detect undead".
John Walker
A demon that isn't evil is an angelic being.
Liam Young
Do we get to fuck in demon form?
Leo Murphy
You're right. I'm a crusading paladin who smites ethnics off table and a crusading paladin who smites this gay anime shit on table
Juan Scott
>Come to think of it, is it even possible for a demonic entity to change alignments? If so is it still demonic after it changes? Yes and no. They can change their alignment, but it doesn't erase the aura they have from being demonic.
For example, Fall-from-Grace is a LG Succubus with Priest levels. She channels positive energy, as evidenced by her use of cure spells, but she doesn't worship a deity, instead drawing her power from her intense devotion to the Sensate worldview. Under detect alignment she would ping as Lawful, Chaotic, Good, and Evil.
Leo Gonzalez
This has actually already hallened in our current campaign to my character who hates the undead. Turns out that her one-sided lady-love is actually a ghost possessing a prostitute. The possession's failing and now I have to decide if and how I want to get her a new body to possess in order to maybe, finally, earn her love.
Gabriel Lopez
I play clerics, not paladins. Don't need to smite evil the second I see it.
Carson Nguyen
My character is an AI which finds sexual fulfillment in a number of air warfare scenarios, such as SEAD or dogfghting.
This premise doesn't work, because this person isn't the act of destroying enemy runways.
Dylan Peterson
So? Falling in love with a demon isn't the worst thing my characters have done and most of them won't really care as long as the demon doesn't cause much harm.
Adam Mitchell
>mfw
My qt3.14 husbando isn't evil and as such I have no reason to bring the wrath of the Lords upon him. :3 We're gonna snuggle in front of the bonfire instead!
Charles Cox
deppends on the setting, but more than likely no.
This question has been asked so many times, why would you smite a non-evil creature just because of his or her race? What form of justice is that?
Ayden Gray
all Tanari (and succubi, in 5e) are butt puckering, reality warping evil. you don't need to be a paladin to know something's wrong.
now if we're using "depends on the setting" weeb yokai demon, well that's a different story.
Adam Ross
Wait for him to play a cleric or paladin Give him a gay lover Excommunicate him :^)
Samuel Walker
Don't you even dare talk in this tone about my waifu.
Brandon Turner
/pol/ymorphed form of justice
Adrian Evans
Fey are lolranom waifus.
Andrew Morales
>Would you smite them? Probably not. But first things first. I read the manual.
Noah Stewart
Even under D&D's own arbitrary rules, how does that even work? "I'm stoic and pure and channel my sluttiness and passion to heal with divine power". I haven't played Planescape, but isn't "intense devotion to the Sensate worldview" (which considering Succubus, I assume means sex drugs, rock&roll) completely at odds with Lawful Good? How do you ping as four disparate alignments? And is that "would" in your opinion, or "does" in the game?
Why does your penis care if they did? That seems a pretty arbitrary sticking point, considering you're not even the same species, or from the same plane of existence. I mean, I would think bestiality panic would be higher on the concerns than trans panic. Their real form probably doesn't even have a gender or sex or genitals. And in that case all you have to worry about is if they infected you in some strange attempt to breed, because for their species sexual reproduction means mutually infecting each other, standing on a cliffside, and then exploding into a billion spores.
Otherwise known as Unaligned.
Nathaniel Thomas
>A Lo reference on Veeky Forums Oh shit
Alternately it depends on the setting because a lot of people think the D&D "Always Specific Alignment" concept is dumb.
Dylan Baker
Veeky Forums has written and codified BDSM as a lawful good activity, with commoners practicing it and a holy text that defines it in lawful good manners and promotes obedience, submission, and dominance and rulership major factors.
So, no, those aren't particularly difficult to reconcile in comparison. Taoist priests were neither celibate nor did they practice abstinence from alcohol or drugs - they used them responsibly. Hell, Buddhists monks got drunk on occasion too. And of course the priestesses of certain goddesses were prostitutes and healers as well as using drugs and poisonous fumes to instill ecstatic visions, so this isn't even somethign that is out of the realm of the real world.
You just have to decide how they reconcile them, and if you can't, then don't go there yourself.
Blake Kelly
This actually happened to one of my old characters, except she was a drow instead (and one of his old flames at that). He took it really well, especially because they had been close lovers when she was a drow. And then they both became fiends after they were killed and offered a deal in exchange for the protection of their children. It's really complicated.
Easton Torres
Lo's fucking awesome.
Hey, Veeky Forums. Go torrent a film called Lo, right now, and watch it. It's practically a stage play and it's fucking fantastic. Man summons demon. Man talks to demon. Shit goes down.
Ian Edwards
>try to find a way to become immortal and live with him/her forever, if demons are immortals
otherwise
>I don't care that you're a demon: I love you anyway and I want to stay with you until the end of my life and then some!
Xavier Clark
Veeky Forums writing and codifying something as being Lawful Good doesn't mean shit to me. That's also kind of... not really how BDSM works, unless you ONLY go with the obvious trappings. BDSM isn't about "obedience, submission, and dominance and rulership". It's about power exchange, trust, and mutually fulfilling (sexual) urges. Saying it's actually about submission and/or dominance ignores that the submissive is the one with the power.
Not only that, but a "Sensate" lifestyle is literally experiencing as much sensation as you can. Lawful is about keeping orderly. Good is about selflessness. Seeking out all forms of pleasure is at least a little selfish, and being orderly and stoic prevents many forms of pleasure.
A "Sensate lifestyle" is going to be Neutral or Chaotic.
Temple prostitutes weren't even necessarily, like, freaks in bed or anything, and real world religions don't have D&D alignment, so that's not really relevant. "Having sex" wasn't even why I pointed out how unfitting that is. Shelyn in Pathfinder is also Neutral Good, for instance.
Like, "Lawful Good Priests can't have sex" isn't the issue. "Lawful Good Priests aren't going to be out partying and living it up" is the issue. I'm not even saying Lawful Good can't have fun, just that the kind of fun of a "Sensate lifestyle" is not going to be drinking in moderation and sex only with partners who can prove they're STI free while still using a condom and birth control.
Nolan Robinson
>I haven't played Planescape, but isn't "intense devotion to the Sensate worldview" (which considering Succubus, I assume means sex drugs, rock&roll) Sensates believe that new experiences change people, they help them grow stronger and discover themselves. Considering that this is DnD we're talking about, in a meta sense they're not wrong.
They are not hedonists; the sensations they seek are not necessarily pleasurable, nor do they take pleasure from pain. They only want to learn. In fact, many aspiring Sensates are taken to a great feast hall on Ysgard and told they may eat their fill and lie with the other patrons. Those that do, and don't look back are left there forever.
Sensates are by and large Lawful Neutral. They tend to go about their education in a cautious and orderly way, likely because most of them come from the wealthier population of Sigil's Clerk's Ward. Fall-from-Grace's job before joining you was actually to teach young women how to be proper Sensates at the Brothel for Slaking Intellectual Lusts.
Grace qualifies as Lawful Good because her interpretation of the Sensate creed places emphasis on how experiences can shape people for the better, ultimately making the world a better place. She's a also a healer who gives her healing freely to people in need instead of charging money for it. Finally, she argues with Vhailor (LN Mercykiller, different party member) over the role that mercy plays in justice, claiming that unless tempered by mercy, a quest for justice accomplishes nothing but mindless retribution.
Also, you have realize as well that Fall-from-Grace is not the way she is purely by choice, but because she was mindbroken by eons of slavery in Baator. Thus in a certain way she sees herself as fallen, not redeemed - hence the choice of name, and the vow of chastity.
Chase Reyes
>How do you ping as four disparate alignments? Demons have the chaotic and evil subtypes, meaning that even if they manage to change alignment they're still MADE of chaos and evil, and continue to ping as them.
Being a succubus paladin kind of sucks, because both holy and unholy things are harmful to you (in addition to anarchic and axiomatic ones).
Luis Cooper
>softly Crying >Deus vult
Leo Scott
Eh I think the definition of a pally is to strick sure there is a line but a party member who rips people off gambleming just deserves a judging stare and a motherly lecture later on