What is the origin of evil in your setting?

What is the origin of evil in your setting?

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I feel like this is going to be true of most settings, but evil doesn't exist, and thus never began.

Unless you are going really fundamental. Evil wasn't a thing until the universe had division within it and thus 2 separate entities to disagree with each other about what actions are better to do.

Evil is a thing because everyone, the Gods included, have freedom of will, which equals them being able to choose between good and evil.

Nobody knows anything about the creator of the world, even the oldest being which is even older than the world.

Azathoth

If you want to get into semantics it's quite debatable, but basically, humans invented the idea of evil, very early on. Soon after, certain spiritual entities decided to pick up the idea and run with it, making demons of themselves, and that's when it really came into full swing.

The archangel Nerull tried to seize the power of life and death from the Creatrix. As a result, the Creatrix closed the Life Gate and the Death Gate, and withdrew from the world. Now the Archangels battle among themselves. And on the Prime Material, a plague of undead curses all the lands.

> Good cults cremate their dead at sunrise and at high noon.
> Lawful Evil cults mummify their dead.
> Neutral cults bury their dead in the Old Way, in the hope that the Life Gate will once again be opened to them.
> Chaotic Evil cults eat their dead--well, they're cannibals generally. This does not end well for anybody.

The result of this is that Lawful Evil societies can summon powerful mummies to aid them in times of trouble.

Neutral cults can summon righteous undead to perform certain duties before returning to their graves.

Chaotic Evil societies are infested by ghouls and ghasts, that roam the countryside seeking what they may devour.

Vampires, creatures that suck the very life out of the world, are sacred to Nerull Himself, and are purely Evil.

Everything was fine, until the God of Evil invented the concept of Being A Dick.

Evil was created out of the resentment of conquered towards their conquerors, and used as a term to identify and denigrate those traits associated with the strong, conquering peoples and create a narrative of superiority for the weak and vanquished.

Evil and Good are human constructs. They are not real. The universe is amoral because it doesn't revolve around human beings.

The creator gods became bored with their creation and picked one among their number to oppose them. That one gave a half-hearted effort before being dogpiled and defeated. As a result, the creator gods decided that they needed a spark of conflict, and thus created the raw manifestation of Capital E Evil, and shortly thereafter wiped out both each other and most of creation.

The next batch of creator gods didn't fuck up (in that manner), but Evil already existed and so led portions of their creation astray.

> Old Gods partied hard after killing the Titans.
> to celebrate create New Gods to fornicate and torture
> New Gods are lot smarter/more attuned to the structure of the universe
> trick the old gods and their angels to falling into same depth where Titans were buried
> Old Gods and their angels, now demons, decide to party harder and lure souls to the Pit to spite the gods
> Succubi who were just doing nothing in the Flux surrounding the Pit decides to join them because they're the first interesting thing they've seen in years. Gain thirst for semen and soul

We're super villains. Where does that evil ever come from? Actually my character isn't even evil, just working for the super villains.

>What is the origin of evil in your setting?

Sapience.

To cross over the mental thresholds of beasts and to ascend into the realm of person hood; to know both good and evil and to eventually persist as id, ego and personae before ultimately becoming a thought thinking itself.

Evil is a concept, it has no origin for it does not truly exist outside of the thoughts of The People.

Evil is simply a choice. It's extremely mundane and dosent need a bunch of cosmic claptrap to explain it's existence

>be from New Zealand
>read 'cults' as 'cunts'

kill me

When you really go down to it, evil in my setting was born with the coming of the dragons. Creatures made of literal chaos, given form. Their nature is that of evil, in a sense, as they take to doing vile and horrible things to mortals, and even brought fear, trickery and lies into the world first. They have committed the oldest acts of evil, and are the closest thing to inherent evil next to demons. Theres even old school insults when someone does something particularly heinous, they say "He must have a drop of dragons blood in him" for example.

All was one. All was known. After an eternity one divided itself. The two did not know why. In ignorance, the two quarreled and divided each other. All that is is formed from this great sundering. Of the one, ignoramus et ignorabimus as have been all since the one. In ignorance we quarrel and strive against.


They're 100% right, AND they're an evil cult trying to forcibly amalgamate everyone on earth to create a kind of seed crystal that will lead to the rebirth of god and the end of the universe.

The divine beings in my setting created the material realm in older to invest souls into. They put a soul into every child born and let it grow with the creature until it reaches an old age and dies. Naturally, anything that goes against this divine process is evil. The fiendish beings who barter for a creature's soul, steal a creature's soul, or destroy a soul's vessel before it has fully matured is evil. Lich's in my setting are evil not only because of the unspeakable act they commit when going immortal, but also because they kept their well-developed soul away from the Divine realm. Immortality is only good when granted by the divine and neutral only when it is granted by the material realm.

Something like this.

In my setting, there was no true Evil until there was Good. Before Good grew with the ideals of protection, justice, fairness, cooperation, there was no defying those ideals, no breaking down of the systems they created, just beasts following instinct. Evil is the decaying, twisted remnant of the ways of the beast in the mind of man, that defies what it now knows to be right.

The beasts themselves can't be evil, but man who gives in to his inner beast is. This is why evil and the supernatural forces associated with it are depicted as beasts in the shapes of men, or men in the shapes of beasts.

The players

The creator became dissatisfied with its absolute control over what it had made. As such, it created evil. Evil was made to be outside the realm of its omniscience but not its omipotence. Thusly, the creator found amusement in watching the unknown story its creatures could now create.

People.

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"I think it's something to do with free will"

Evil in general is just an opinion, but if you want to be specific, most of the settings problems started when the people who lived in the holy city decided they were better than the rest of humanity and decided to build a wall to keep all the barbarians out.

Unfortunately the gods created the city to share their blessings with the whole world, and when this happened, they decided that humanity was a bunch of selfish fucks and left. The people in the city became corrupt and decadent, and then barbarians eventually broke down the wall and sacked the place. It's been an endless cycle of people re-conquering the holy city and trying to get the gods to come back ever since.

>What is the origin of evil in your setting?

No different from reality: humans and their belief that it exists and certain actions taken by humans fall within its domain. It would stop existing if humans did.

Evil? There's no particular supernatural source for that. People have long found ways to justify actions they knew were wrong, even if that reason was just that they didn't give a shit or for some supposed greater good. There are certainly beings who delight in evil and seek to spread its weakness for various reasons, and even something like a god of evil granted authority over it, but evil itself isn't some fundamental force. If it's anything, it's the corruption or absence of what is good.

I suppose that beings previously untainted by evil have fallen to it at times, and races once pure have been brought low after succumbing to its allure.

As for the god of evil, his role is essentially to put the world and its people through trials to test and temper their resolve, and collecting the souls of those who break instead to be reforged and tried anew. This process will be repeated as often as necessary, until the weaknesses and impurities of all souls have been firmly hammered out.

He rules over monsters and mortals alike, and doesn't really hate them or anything. It's more than possible to bargain and reason with him, but such arrangements will always be on his terms. He'll sometimes offer unsolicited aid to those he feels have proven themselves or deserve the chance to prove themselves, though even this typically comes with some price.

My thoughts too. No matter what terrible thing I can come up with, that players will think of something worse.

Evil exists just as the concept of "cold" or "dark" exists. Evil is the absence of good, as darkness is an absence of light, cold an absence of warmth. It "fills" the hearts of those who perform it because those who lack the will to do good, just as darkness "fills" places without light. Some never understand idea of good, some reject it outright, others still unable to see the difference between the two, blind to both good and the absence of good.

Evil exists, thrives, when there is an absence of good. And just as fires can be lit to ward off the darkness, the cold, the spark of good wards off evil. One can bring light to the darkness, bring warmth to the cold, and bring good to the evil.

Light up the night.

Angry Manjew is the source of all evil in the world

The god of Chaos wouldn't keep it in his pants and had to shag reality.

People are massive dickheads

No, Evil just chaos, disorder and randomness. The universe started as chaos, then Law was created which set order to things. Chaos hated Law, he attempted to destroy any order she put into the universe. Law banished chaos to his own dimension (Limbo). Law created Magic so Chaos had some way to vent its pure destructive nature. With Magic Chaos was able to break the rules Law created (Gravity, time, physics, divine power)

Any "evil" in my world is either human nature, or entities of chaos (demons) who seek to turn the universe back to the way it was before Law.

This whole origin is WIP so let me know what you think

In the beginning, there was nothing but the gods. Their purpose was void, for they themselves were newly born and this was their first creation. But there were two, the most powerful of the litter, that which would become Life and Death. Life itself was a flawed being, and its flaws were reflected upon the living world it wrought. Impurities of its own great soul rising from doubt and melancholy corrupted life itself, permanently tainting creation and being the origin for all pain and suffering in the world.

Death, who waited to create its world, saw this agony and thus became Death- it infused life with souls that would be everlasting, and created a realm of the dead for them to inhabit after their time in the living world had passed. Death is salvation, Death is peace, Death is love. Death accepts all without clause, and all are equal in the afterlife for dying makes equals of us all.

But Life? Life is soured, it is corroded. Life grows sick with creation and wishes to remake it on whim to fit its ever-changing lusts. Life is Chaos, and from this flawed disorder is where evil spawns. Life loves nothing, it is constantly creating new things to replace the old and kill them if they do not die soon enough. Life is defined by struggle against itself, and all sentient life is ultimately opposed to the god for its unending cruelty. For Life does everything within its current power to wipe the slate clean, and it is only by the efforts of men and the other free races that the world remains unmolested.

Life, in its disgust of the modern world, unleashes agents of misery upon the face of the world to do its bidding (for the gods for some reason I have not come up with are barred from taking direct action upon the living realm). These are the Fae, spirits of nature and agents of chaos that seek to warp the world into the desired form of Life, which is ever-changing. They have no bodies, but rather are ethereal things able to possess the land, the trees, the animals, anything wrought by Life and twist it to suit their needs. Anything can be used as a weapon by them, and killing them is a legendary act that will cement your place in history as a hero of all.

Spawned from the Fae are the infernal beasts, nameless abominations made from conglomerations of flesh from various sources fused together into a constantly shifting nightmare of tissue. They are perverse monstrosities, their existence dedicated to the misery of the free races. When the titanic monsters break into settlements they butcher the men, rape the womenfolk, and warp the children. The beasts are by and large the main cause for the collapse of the current civilization and destruction of communication. They roam the forests that now cover the entire middle continent, tearing into convoys and butchering all within.

"Evil" is just primordial chaos leaking into the world. It's just necessary thing for change.

>playing games with morality systems

Why would you do somethign as boring as that ?

There isn't objective evil, only the repercussions of differing priority stemming from the exodus of the gods.

The Great Empire of the West elected Donald Trump,

Curiosity.

Fallen Angels/Lucifer.
Pretty straightforward really.

But that doesn't explain why they turned to evil.

Maybe you could ask the other three people living in kiwiburg right now to do it for you

It has no origin. It just is.

There's no evil in my setting.
There's the absence of good in some places but that's not the same.

There is no evil only dickheads

Manifestation of the first sin man committed.

And where did that sin come from?

White People

People who's political opinions I personally disagree with as a GM

The fall of the Garden of Eden

Which was caused by?

Dickass imperialist elder gods.

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Evil is a way for sentient life to explain an absence of Good, or what they choose to define as Good. In turn, all which does not exist in regular space has formed into a subspace or Nether Realm.

Women!

The Creator God's chosen children, the primordial races, killed themselves in hubris thinking they could reach godhood and stand equal with their creator. Torn up about this, the God rips itself in two, creating a god of Light and a god of Darkness from its corpse, the remains of which became the hypermassive black hole at the heart of the universe.

Both remaining gods fucked off to cope with the despair in their hearts; in particular, the despair in the Dark God's heart twisted into the idea of 'Evil', while the despair in the Light God's heart was tempered into the idea of 'Good', or more strictly interpreted as 'Justice'.

The Horsemen posess the 12th Ruler Child with the help of 3 of his older brothers, because the habitants of the lands disfollowed the rules of their codex.

It's an emergent aspect of freedom of choice and consciousness, just like goodness.

And a serpent manipulating said woman