Any word on new theme lists? I'm looking to start a new army, think I'll go with Convergence. Gonna order a bunch of stuff in a couple weeks here and would like to have some corresponding units.
Christian Cooper
And this.
Daniel Taylor
Only one that's known so far is the Cephalyx contract. But if that one is anything to go off of, they'll be strong.
What I wanna do is get the 5 souls plus Spectral Steel on Malice so it goes up to 24 ARM, then use Overrun to deliver it into the opponent's caster with 8 focus.
Nathan Phillips
Why didn't they just remove theme forces?
Ryan King
Why would you ever take a leviathan ever again?
Jordan Johnson
Because now it doesn't need Mertenebra to forcefeed it to work?
Gabriel Carter
Because Mortenebra is a ranged jack caster now.
Jeremiah Perry
The Attendant Priest doesn't do much for the Gun Mages, since they're already magic damage on their guns, and Malekus's feat works with them already (since it works on enemy models taking damage rolls as opposed to friendly faction models making damage rolls).
With those points (plus possibly a wrack) I'd replace the Castigator or the Guardian with a Reckoner so:
a) You can drop Open Fire on three different ranged jacks each turn b) You can open with a boosted Reckoner shot to land Flare on whatever you focus the (unboostable) Open Fire shots on.
The Castigator seems mildly redundant with the Vanquisher and Cleansers, and I'm not sure you'll get enough mileage out of the Guardian's arc node to make it worthwhile, so I'd think both are replaceable with a Reckoner. I'm looking (I'm working on a similar list) to stock three heavies and but a second unit on the table to hold Ignite. Or just take two Sunbursts.
But in any case, I don't think Malekus wants less than three ranged heavies.
Ryan Wright
Because it allows them to sell you books to un-nerf the models they changed.
Joshua Wilson
Fair points. Guardian's largely for the fringe Scourge opportunities.
Ryder Cox
Also another one hidden amounts the threads. It was a menoth one with like"
Gain a Free Small Sized Solo or the cleanser UA.
Warjacks gain Girded
1 Unit of Daughters of flame get ambush.
Considering we already know about that other things grant CRA, and out of faction units its pretty crazy.
A theme force is not just some environment manipulation. Its boosts to units/ Warjacks that change how they operate completely.
And like, some free points as well.
Nicholas Allen
Thoughts on Cyclone marshalled to Gun Mages with new JM rules?
Nathan Allen
Eh. Its functional but feels kinda gimmicky.
Jeremiah Hughes
Yeah, I just think it's kinda wasted without a Redeemer in tow, and I don't really see the points for that and everything else Malekus wants to do.
But I really see Malekus as a gunline caster throwing a lot of fire downfield with Cleansers to minifeat early against infantry and then jam until the feat turn kills a couple of heavies.
I am *really* looking forward to running Malekus with the Revelator. Pic related is what I plan to eventually do with him.
Austin Martinez
Does anyone feel like uploading the thorn gun mages stats for a poorfag?
David Nguyen
Pretty interesting build, though depending on enemy list I'm not sure how well it can jam. Little infantry and a handful of heavies, and I'm not sure you can outlast them.
Cameron Flores
Remains to be seen, of course, but before all of the sprays from the cleansers, it puts out 7 4" AoEs per turn, and then under feat can melt a gargossal at range. It's going to feat on turn 2 most of the time and have to do some serious work on feat turn, but I like the odds. Now to just get an actual release date on the Revelator.
Liam White
Do we have official (not from spoiler) cards already?
Gabriel Mitchell
Yes, War Room 2 is out and cards are available. The spoilers were right.
James Garcia
War Room 2 went live with the new cards last night
Brayden Howard
I should also mention explicitly that if you're staring across the table at a lot of fire immunity, you drop your other list, and that's my only plan for such a situation.
Cameron Gomez
Haha, naturally. Idly, any Durst or Sevy plans?
Julian Wright
Anyone got the pic of kallus2? I know I saw it here, forgot to save it.
Isaiah Green
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Brandon Thomas
>there's someone on the PP forums that seriously thinks the Sea King is a minion Gargantuan
Brandon Powell
Is it possible to make a competitive army without women in it?
I can't stand this fantasy bullshit of women being equal to men.
Christian Evans
Dude, there have been dozens of people claiming that since the first peak of it came out.
Joseph Sullivan
My sister bought me this elephant right before she died. It's very sentimental to me and I want to use it in warmachine. Would it be tournament legal to use this as ECaine?
Ryder Myers
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Jayden Miller
Skorne. Avoid Makeda, Extoller Soulwards, and... the two paingiver solos.
Juan Baker
I kinda like the burry ass picture and I may want to start playing this game
Grayson Hughes
I haven't really looked at Durst in Mk3 (and never found him that interesting in Mk2 -- with the caveat that "interesting" and "good" are different ideas), but have been toying with running pSevvy kinda Crusader-spammy with the idea that he can run infantry pretty well, and give the Crusaders time to get up the board to do work.
I'm really attracted to running multiple Crusaders with casters that like infantry to do their normal infantry stuff and have a battlegroup that hits hard and still has enough boxes to be non-trivial to remove.
Tyler Flores
Have you never gone to a tournament? Half the people who play this game are fucking autistic, a third of them are just mentally retarded, and a small handful aren't human filth.
Kevin Murphy
How the fuck does traditional gaming have the community that it does? Half the people are retarded, half are non-functional geniuses and then there's some blue haired cunt painting Space marines in the corner with her beta orbiters. The demographics are nuts.
Bentley Fisher
Other people like video gamers stay inside mostly so you never see just how bad they are.
Nathan Scott
I don't know man, but I'm really worried that if I keep playing tabletop games I'm going to wind up getting fat due to reduced social pressure.
Nathaniel Rivera
The opposite can happen when you see the man slugs and go "NOPE!" so diet and exercise more.
Cameron Nguyen
Its unreliable, she does nothing to fix the D3 issue
We only have ranged colossals
Brody Bell
Most of the guys I play with are engineers at the local Boeing factory. Besides their grandchildren there are no children at all since 40k died a week or two after AOS hit. In fairness the store owner almost went bankrupt from that but it's rebounded.
That's just the wargamers though, the average age of the MTG events is -5.
Anthony Nelson
Wrong faction m8. If you want to do a conversion for xerxis 2 we can talk.
Anthony Thompson
I recently got the new War Room app- any other Cephalyx players having a hard time making army lists? The loss of any models below 3 points is rather frustrating.
Jack Powell
I've played in metas full of software engineers and lawyers, metas full of manslug autists, and metas where I was afraid to drink the water because so many people were missing teeth. This country is fucking weird, and the demographic just seems to be "dude, slightly a-social".
Brody Gray
seek ye the Mercenaries to find forsooth thyne three points ye need for completion of thyne list and soul
Logan Nelson
stop playing meme armies
Bentley Gomez
Correct me if I am wrong- if I do not choose to use the 'Operating Theatre' theme list, I can take ANY mercenary models I want (not counting warjacks and such), yes?
John Sullivan
>Hutchuck Rust Bomb >Wrastler Rage >Calaban Parasite >8 damage swing on any warjack God bless da voodoo
Levi Stewart
I think you can take any you want as long as you have a dominator with them
Non-Cephalyx units with Cephalyx Dominator command attachments
Chase Evans
I guess? For my skorne, i just open War Room and pick the units they list. >Not good at this game >me Pick two
Easton Wilson
oh wait units, nevermind
Angel Long
>38" cast range on spells Check. >List destroys any faction not immune to fire Check. >Models that are hilarious with Black Spot Check.
It's got it all.
Julian Nelson
I just re-read the cephalyx rules in the core book. The selective rule means that the Operating Theatre theme list is obligatory. Somewhat disappointing, but free overlords and hyper aggressive monstrosities don't come without a price.
Eli Foster
>skorne into the trash it goes
Camden Cox
>I'll shuffle my Sentry around your model so he has LOS of your caster and get some attacks in >Now I'll activate Hexeris ;^)
Justin Clark
That's why it was included in the core rules, its the only way to take Cephalyx.
Jeremiah Cook
Monstrocities look fun to play. Just a few acupuncture strikes and your at 3 focus.
With Hyper aggressive ranged shooting then just makes them stronger and faster.
Hey guys i heard you were worried about Kara Sloan, so i errata'd her to have an even better feat!
at least she can't use that trash 9 hunter list now am i right?
Jayden Williams
Get a fucking haircut Soles, you look like a troll doll fucking a blender.
Kayden Allen
I honestly have no clue who play-tests Cygnar at PP, but they very obviously have the same caliber of players for MKIII that Cryx did for MKII.
The nerf bat swings wildly and MISSED SO MUCH.
Dominic Fisher
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Owen Turner
Whats the new feat?
Leo Morales
How do I deal with Centurions in Mk3? PP nerfed all my armor cracking and I can't charge them. Guns don't do enough damage and they still have arcane shield they can just hand out
Bentley Perry
Free guided fire, battlegroup gets 1 free ranged attack during activation. So second attack is boostable now since its during activation, and sloan now has more focus to hand out, since guided fire is free cast during feat.
Ayden Ramirez
Yep, say goodbye to Mk 1 eLylyth shooting into your deployment, and hello to Mk 2 eLylyth erasing all your stuff turn 2/3.
Evan Price
What Minion solos are worth a damn now? I'm looking at Croc doc and just not seeing anything of value. Everything has tough so why do I want a tough giver?
Elijah Peterson
And yet they couldn't make gaspy2 playable. I almost prefer GW's blatant lack of caring
William Gomez
Would Gaspy2 be good enough to be played if his clouds weren't an upkeep anymore? Or would that and Hellbound have to swap upkeep status?
Isaac Bennett
and you thought it could possibly just be the hair
Liam Adams
I think that was a twitter joke.
Benjamin Thompson
unless its nemo3, you can always tk it to face the other direction if you're a faction with access to TK.
if its nemo3, god help you, you have bigger problems
Logan Long
so i'm in a bind, i'm sick of being shit on as skorne, but i can't decide which other faction to play as i don't even know what they do for the most part (i played in a really small meta and only saw a handful of legion and khador with the very rare ret player)
How do i trial new factions properly? it seems like it'd be super time consuming and expensive to go through and playtest each and every caster a few times...
Jonathan Bailey
just use the spoiled cards and proxy for what ever you want.
Jace Stewart
I got to say, I really hate the changes to animi.
Zachary Hill
Its the feat being d6+3 i.e between 4-9 modles brought back. Either make it d3+6 or you know, dont change it at all.
Hellbound no longer being an upkeep is a sidegrade that I'm totally fine with.
Clouds are not always reliable, the feat is sometimes the only thing you have
Also speed6. Seriously, why change that?
Ian Powell
Did they do more than just tone them down across the board?
Christian Ross
predominantly "self" now
Sebastian Anderson
The Troll's elemental lights suffered the worse. They barely had a purpose, and now its even worse.
Cooper Turner
MK3 CARDS WHERE
Mason Thomas
Anyone got the card for Inflictor? I don't have access to war room
Landon Hughes
The worst part is that you know the animi are part of what makes Warbeasts expensive. There are a bunch of Warbeasts I'd gladly trade their animi away for point reductions.
I hate Counterblast on most stuff in legion. I hate self Spiny Growth.
Adam Cruz
Still assblasted it wasnt for sale at lock n load
Joseph Johnson
My bad the pic didnt upload
Dominic Adams
Any kind soul with War Room care to share Helios cards?
Its why they are expensive and why locks tend to have less spells. But with most going 'self', it cuts heavily into the support locks bring.
David Edwards
Animus variety decreased in most factions.
Easton Moore
HA! Critical poison! My least favorite effect to see on a warbeast/jack.
Here, have a random effect that only works on less than half the heavies in the game.
Josiah Robinson
Imo, it doesn't matter. In Cryx spd 6, arm 19 'jack with Reach and Shield Guard is already good enough. "Critical X" effects just too random anyway.
Jace Walker
Whatever, its the best non character heavy in the faction. I plan on runing 3-5 with venethrax and possibly 2 with most other casters
Jaxon Murphy
Anybody have experience with thewarstore.com?
is it a reliable place to buy shit from??
Grayson Nelson
Yes. They're very solid and have been consistently good to my local group.
Matthew Collins
Apparently, according to Prime, Thorn Gun Mages do indeed have Both Barrels. Them not having it is probably a War Room error, one among many.
Dominic Young
>according to Prime, Thorn Gun Mages do indeed have Both Barrels Are you talking about free rules? Because there are no cards in them
Luke Nguyen
I think they were selling Prime at Lock and Load, along with the starter boxes.
Luke Ross
They sold Prime at L&L.
Evan Turner
What do we think the best casters for juggernaut/crusader spam are? Butcher 1 and Amon?
Christopher Stewart
What is conflux good for? Orion?
Jason Jones
Saw mention of Cult of the Despoilers on the forums in regards to new faction so looked this up in the Urban Adventures book. Sounds plausible, also interesting is what's right below it.
Noah James
Thoughts?
I mostly want to make a 'fluffy' list with a ton of Doomreavers/Greys that hopefully won't be awful.
My other idea with the list is to switch the Grolar for a block of Assassins+Underboss but I really have no idea what I'm doing. Don't really care about theme list much as it's just models I like.
