Warhammer 40k General

Stat me

I'm aware. But what's the fucking point? Just crop it or scale it down.

BS4
AV 14/12/10
HP:3
Fast Skimmer
Str8:Heavy 1, armourbane, lance, distort.

AV12/12/12 HP6
Serpent Shield
Power of the Machine Spirit
Battle Cannon: 72" S:D Large Blast
5x Scatter Laser

200 points

11/11/10 HP3
BS2, S7 AP3 Ordinance 1 Large Blast

Almost correct, except that it's a Monstrous Creature with W7, 2+/4++, 4+ FNP, and IWND.

MC
WS 4
BS 4
S 6
T 6
W 6
I 6
A 6
LD 10

Battle Cannon

27 points

Unmarked Sorcs and Nurgle spawn is best obviously.
Spawn make useful wounds, make you fearless and are good anti-grav insurance as long as there are as many as there are psykers.

I don't like throwing all that crap into one unit though. Can't split them into 3-5 units with 1-2 spawn each?

It won't not live.

Don't think I can and I like the whole deathstar schtick. The formation itself is 3-5 Sorcs but I figured 5 would be pretty good considering they're so weak individually.

Can't use Nurgle as Thousand Sons. My autism is already piqued because I'm not marking my biker Sorcs but I know better. If I mark them, they need another level each to be useful. That's 200 points extra (125 for levels, 75 for marks)

How would my strategy be though? Just use spawn as extra wounds only or do I buff and slam them into CC?

Your call. If going biomancy, santic and invisibility then CC could be fun.
Shriek and charge and repeat.

Mix and match some force weapons and kill the fuck out of easyish targets.
Force applies to the whole squad with one casting, doesn't it?

Charge riptides all day with hammerhand force axes

I bought the start collecting Necron box

Is it plastic? What kind of glue for these models? Plastic cement?

Librarian Leviathan Dread with a force siege claw.

Citadel plastic glue. Its plastic models.

Santic makes it really easy to perils as non-GK, even with a spell familiar. Sorcs are already expensive and flimsy so I won't risk it. But I do plan to go a mix of Telepathy and Biomancy. Invisibility, Shriek, Smite with possible Life Leech keeping Spawn alive. Although I DO want to have at least 1 Invisibility. I might end up with all 5 going Telepathy, but Shriek ain't bad and since I'll be casting the formation power, it would be the Mindfuck Biker Gang.

And yeah, casting force once makes every weapon in the unit with that rule be ID. So I CAN actually have a pretty decently killy unit with both obscene weight of attacks AND strong ID attacks.

I want to start an army with the theme of "Mechs gon' give it to ya"

m.youtube.com/watch?v=4DO7eQGSvqE

What should I go for?

Contemptors, Boxnaughts, and a Mortis or two.

Does not exist. Unless Blood Angels suddenly got it.

thisor play tau

Or Orks.

Why do Necron players not use Monoliths anymore.

I haven't seen a Monolith on the table in... years?

Can't wait to deep strike some taurox!

This picture is wrong Aun Va, is not pissing and shitting his underwear in raw terror and clawing the very skin off his face

Nothing wrong with that. Real life had tanks and transport dropped in.

How do you get Dreadnoughts into skin contact with jr opponent though?

Land Raider syndrome
Expensive, not that killy, slow, main gun is Ordenance so rest will snapshoot if fired.

Because their rules are literally Ork tier :(

How right is this? Shouldn't the Forge World's Holy Synod be with the Fabricator General?

How much would you agree that the Fabricator General has the most real political power of any human in the galaxy?

that's the face of someone that hasn't failed their morale check yet

find someone who wants to do cqc

30k mechanicus

>Fabricator General
>Human

Disgusting.

>skin contact with jr opponent

Slaanesh pls go

It states that only the Scions get the respawn into deepstrike rule

Run an R&H detachment to buy three units of their turbo-cheap Spawn. Also gives you access to cheap bodies for objectives.

Only one reason: range. The gun is a Leman Russ gun on a way better body, but then they gave is 24 inch range so it does nothing until it gets to melta range. Give it 72 inches or even 48 and it would be decent.

I would argue that the Ecclesiarch or the Master of the Administratum would be higher than the Fabricator General, but those two don't have power over tv remotes, computers, or guns like the head cogboy.

They got worse every single edition.

i wouldn't fuck with the clerk that holds all the check books or the space pope who would closest to the god emperor. i think if given a stateline the fabricator general could easily be worthy of lord of war like dante or calgar

Without the Ecclesiarch, there would be no manpower for wars.

Fabricator General, if he could somebody control every single Forge World, would then control the guns. Which would limit power.

Both require each other. Without manpower, the AdMech would run out of everything, resources, bases for robutts, etc. Without guns, Ecclesiarch can't do Wars of Faith or encourage people to sign up.

Most Space Marines can, in a fix, make their own shit. So can most planets. Lots of Forge Worlds would love to ignore the Fabricator General, so there is no terrible loss if it happened.

Both are powerful for different reasons, but neither could utterly destroy any form of resistance the Imperium could put up.

I argue the Navy leader is more important. Without resources, Mars dies. Without ships, no troops arrive where they're needed.

>identical to the unit that was destroyed
>models weapons and upgrades

It looks like the argument can be made that a dedicated transport could count as this, as part of the unit and a model of the unit. Probably right on only the scions, but I can see this getting an FAQ

I'm sure he would be a little more dangerous. He knows how to get your computer's machine spirit to tell him your internet history, and he's probably going to insult your taste in porn.
But the Navy gets ships from the Mechanicus.

So now that the start collecting MT formation has dropped how has it changed the way MT should be run? Has it made them viable to run as a mid to low tier army or should it just be considered a neat bonus to tack onto a list for some deep strike melta.

no. gank the commissar and butcher the men

Having respawning meh-soldiers doesn't really change much, closest might be spamming melta/plasma suicide squads that you aren't too bothered about losing and cramming your commisars into a bunker

Yeah but the ships already exist. We're assuming either one goes "nah we're not helping any more". The Navy would be the most hurtful to the Imperium, since most planets can produce small amounts of weapons and armour.

If their transports come back I think it makes them tier 1 honestly. Respawning valkeries and tauroxes is amazing power.

But its not an upgrade to the unit. Its a model in the formation.

But who's going to fix the ships when some nutcase Ork, CSM, or Eldar (if Battlefleet Gothic is to be believed) wants to play chicken?

Individual scion unit can buy them as well.

Veeky Forums I'm new to the hobby, friend wants to go in on a Dark Vengeance set where I would get the Dark Angels. This seems like a good point, but what should I buy after this? Bike spam seems fun, but I have absolutely no idea if it's actually effective. Most of my other friends play Space Marines if that matters.

It's the only effective use of Dark Angels.

Pick another chapter other then Dark Angels and be happy later on.

Blood Angels?

Can somebody remind me, did very very early 40k have novels which were much more adult? Lots more violence, sex and other things?

Should I just play Codex Space Marines and spam bikes that way, with White Scars? I'm not particularly attached to Dark Angels, but the idea of using lots of bikes is appealing to me.

Mars and Terra are essentially allied empires heavily wound together out of political necessity.

The fabricator general is the sole arbiter of the half-empire of Mars, and there is no equivalent on terra. Indeed, the fabricator general holds a seat on the council that terra has instead of a central leader.

Servitors?

White scars have the advantage of grav weapons, far more formations and more of a melee capable skillset for their bikers.

Yes dear, I know this. We're discussing who has most power in the event of who would hurt the Imperium the most if they quit the Imperium.

On the downside, they have a awful colour scheme both to paint and to look at.

>27 points
Seems balanced pretty well against the rest of the Eldar codex, honestly.

Short or long term, individual worlds or as a cohesive entity.

Just how many servitors are going to be needed when the game of chicken ends in 67% of the ship missing?

Plebius maximus.

I played two games with my Orks vs two different space marine players and tabled them both.

Why are Orks considered bad again?

Paint in a different colour and call them successors.

It's not that fucking hard.

Any colour would work better with white than red, except perhaps yellow and orange.

Post all 3 lists

Because ironically, the most Tryhard WAAC faggot the marine player goes, the less likely he is to win against Orks.

Grav is OP as shit, but against Orks paper armour, it is far less effective, so they pooled a fuckton of points into a gun that is pretty meh against the shit-tier orks, so suddenly, you actually have a pretty significant handicap on the Marine side.

You could simulate it by taking 20% more points than the opponent as well.

I said it was a downside, not an eternal absolute obstacle for play.

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I know that feel.

Whooped both Thunderwolf + podspam, and Cursed earth+summon spam Demons with my boys.

Total casual lists done p in fifteen minutes after i rulles outta bed to do the game.

What's this? Can you elaborate please? I've no clue where to even start with renegades and heretics. if it involves buying lots of minis, I'm out, I just want to run 5 spawn, not run a bunch of human infantry.,

>Yes, but literally everything is better than CSM. Even Orks have a couple of cheese armies.
Hahaha chaos players such a whiny babies, deldar/ork player here, go fuck yourself.

I used csm last week from a friend and it was a relief that your units didn't die at the mere insinuation of shooting.

That's dumb, the answer is easy.

If the Emperor quits, there is no more warp travel, no more miracles, space marines begin to have civil wars, SOB have mass suicides, and everything slowly trickles back down to before the rise of the emperor.

I once used Dark Eldar against a friend using CSM. We were proxying our whole armies to test out the new ones before we purchased them.

Oh man did I loose bad. The worst part was when I charged my Lelith Hesperax into his HQ Psyker, I failed to do any wounds and then got one hit K0d.

First marine list was an iron hands medusa strike force with biker chapter master, got lucky and killing him first turn.
Second was a imperial fists CAD with two forge world vindicator rapier laser destroyers. My list is...

Ork horde
Ork 1500 points

-Warboss(Warlord) 120 (points)
Bike, klaw, kap
-Big nob(Warboss) 100
Mega armour
-Weird boy 70
Level 2

Troops
-10 'ard boyz 118
Armour
Nob, big choppa, tl shoota
-15 shoota boyz 118
Big shoota
Nob, big choppa, tl choppa
-10+1 grots 40
Squig

Elite
-9 tank bustas 142
3 squigs
Nob
-3 mega nobz 120
Trukk 35
Ram

Fast attack
-7 bikes 141
Nob, big choppa
-Dakka jet 145
Supa shoota, fly boss

Heavy support
-Kustom mega kannonz 117
4 extra grotz
Mek
-Deff dread 95
Klaw, scorcha
-Battle wagon 140
Killikannon

Biker boss with the bikes, big nob and weird boy with the meganobs and tank bustas in the battle wagon.

What reason would a Titan Legion be allied with the Inquisition?

Does Ortan Cassius get +2 attacks tooL

What is a Titan Legion if not a slow, messy exterminatus?

Old favour, schola progenium classmates, blackmail, loads of reasons.

Not much. Maybe as token of debt paid to an inquisitor for retreaving an important STC from the Dark Mechanicus? And even then, I would only see maybe 1 titan being lent.

The Inquisition may request and or requisition any military forces of the Imperium if the situation is dire enough (though whether or not they consent to said requisition is another matter) up to and including Titans.

In fact, I believe Inquisitor Rex did so in the Siege of Vraks as the situation became dire with the arrival of Chaos Titans and Daemons.

An exterminatus that costs more than rocks?
How could you blackmail a Legio?
That doesn't seem more like allied and more like some hat wearing man has a job for you.

>schola progenium classmates
the mechanicus doesn't use the schola

Friendly reminder that Vandire was the good guy and Thor the filthy heretic.

>How could you blackmail a Legio?
Many are noble houses, so there's threat of face, conspiracy to conceal mutations, bastard born, perversions.

Not all legion are mechanicus owned.