/ccg/ Custom Card General /cct/

>Storm Squared
wew lad.

;^)

>Progressive liberals
Those of us who actually live up to this name like to refer to this particular brand of human scum as "Regressives."

>Humans actually care about ethics and the feelings of others, so they need curtains of theory to allow them to be evil.
The sad thing is, a lot of these people are well-meaning, they just can't see the negative consequences of their ideology, and they've been indoctrinated to ignore anyone who tells them that it's awful. It really is a cult. In fact, I was a bit SJW years ago. Bit yeah, it was the irrational hatred of other people that drove me away, especially the "cis-scum" thing. And this is why I like Veeky Forums. Different ideas everywhere. Circlejerking is called out and mocked.

>Boy oh boy there could probably be a saucy debate here.
Not really. He makes some good points, he makes some bad points. I can see why some people like him. As for me, I just look at the fact that the man has zero political experience. I honestly don't even pay much attention to politics, so... yeah. Really annoyed how so many on the Left are outright lying about him though, treating him like he's the new Hitler or something. If he gets into office? Well, that's not the worst thing that could happen. He's better than Hillary. I'm probably voting Sanders. I think Black Lives Matter has shown him the dark side of Social Justice. Might just go third party when it comes down to it though.

I think even during the most broken parts of Magic's history, they wouldn't greenlight this.

It would probably be very hard to balance this so it's reasonable for EDH but still playable in 60 card formats.

>The sad thing is, a lot of these people are well-meaning
The only thing you need to do great evil is a good intent.

>I just look at the fact that the man has zero political experience
He's actually been involved in politics since the 80s, so that's not quite true. He also doesn't need it. What people don't get is that he can hire advisers, and hire people to have political experience for him. Which he's done. How do you think he was able to navigate the ye olde archaic rat maze that is the Republican primary? His campaign staff are some of the best, if not the best, political minds in the world today.

Funny thing that, actually, I'd rather see Sanders over Hilary too. Even if I disagree with his ideas, he is at least honest about them. Hilary's just a miserable little pile of secrets.

wew we gettin' /pol/ in here.

More cards. Yes. Post more cards. Talk more MTG. MaRo is a hack! Return To Time Spiral plz! I'm kind of hyped for Kaladesh actually even though almost every recent block has been shit. etc. etc.

Wow, no kidding. Even in... whatever the "vanilla" format of Magic is called, I could see it getting powerful. Have to admit though, I'm kinda surprised it doesn't use Gravestorm. Though if it did, I think I would cut out the mill 5 part.

>80's
Didn't know about that. Wait, but he's never actually held a position in government, has he? Because that's more or less what I meant. But again, don't pay much attention to politics.

>pile of secrets
Yes. She's a scheming, corporatist demagogue. As egotistical as Trump appears in public I bet you Hillary is in private. And yes, the honesty. I've heard it pointed out a few times that Sanders and Trump are both important due to their lack of corporate puppet-strings. And honesty is a great trait in a politician, at least for the governed. Are you really secure with someone who lies to your face? Again, I can see the positive appeal for Trump, and that's a big part of it. Someone who says what he thinks and doesn't care what other people think about him. Those are traits I would want in anyone who wishes to protect the freedom of speech. "You can say your thing, I can say mine."

>MaRo is a hack!
Sometimes, yes. I think he's right about 9 times out of 10 though. I still don't forgive him for OK'ing Curse of the Swine and Reality Shift, then decrying Song of the Dryads, Lignify, and Utopia Vow.

>Return To Time Spiral plz!
Oh god no, I can't tack more retcons.
>It turns out each of the original 5
>I'm sorry, did I say "original "5? I meant Origins 5. Who the fuck are Ajani and Garruk, right?
>It turns out each of the Origins 5 is somehow related to a famed oldwalker.
>Serra->Gideon
>Urza->Jace
>Leshrac->Liliana
>Jaya->Chandra
>Freyalise->Nissa

>card
nice. Not entirely ssold on it being hybrid part-White though. I think gold might be better. But that's just me. Here's somehting somewhat similar. The man who conned all the rulers of Hell.

>As egotistical as Trump appears in public I bet you Hillary is in private.
one of her secret service agents have attested to her physically assaulting Bill, and being an all around grumpy frumplepuss in private

Sanders and Trump are in different boats though. Sanders may not be funded by corporate interests, but a huge, huge chunk of his funding comes from unions. He is biased, just in a different direction. Trump, on the other hand, is self funded which means he is biased towards literally one direction: himself. There are no perfect politicians but it's nice to have two that are non status quo.

>Not entirely ssold on it being hybrid part-White though
Considering G/U hybrid, or yeah UW gold.

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>his funding comes from unions. He is biased, just in a different direction.
Well, yeah, everyone's going to be biased towards their own political views, I can accept that. It was just annoying that every single big-name politician seemed to owe favors to the very people they are supposed to be policing. I mean, as far as unions go, I would generally be in favor of support for them. They are composed of the very same citizens the politicians are supposed to look after, instead of giant corporations that exploit loopholes for maximum gain to themselves and minimum gain for everyone else. That said, I do realize that there have been times were unions have gotten out of hand. And I totally think they should be monitored, just like the big corporations.

If you aren't interested in graveyard interactions, you could make a replacement clause to gain control of it instead. Not entirely sure how I feel about this though. I really don't want to see a back-and-forth of people using this on each others' creatures.

>They are composed of the very same citizens the politicians are supposed to look after, instead of giant corporations that exploit loopholes for maximum gain to themselves and minimum gain for everyone else.
Gotta stop you on this one; they're both citizens. People that run corporations are the same as people that run unions, and they are both seeking what is best for their own personal gains (I'd reckon there is exactly the same percentage of charity-loving, ethical people at the top of corporations and the top of unions). The only divide is that business leaders have their personal gain restricted by government intervention, and union leaders use government intervention explicitly for their personal gain. At least, when we're talking about "corrupt" versions of both.

The government has a responsibility to protect every citizen, whether they are a private or public sector employee.

Yeah, this is definitely were we split up. My views on corporations versus unions stems from the following belief: People with more power are more likely to abuse their power than people with less power. Obviously, this means my belief is that corporations are far more likely to abuse their employees and customers than a union is to abuse its privileges. And while I'm not a fan of abuse of power at all, if I were just forced to choose, I think I would choose the abuse of lesser power.

>they're both citizens
Have you ever heard of corporate personhood?

>People with more power are more likely to abuse their power than people with less power.
>if I were just forced to choose, I think I would choose the abuse of lesser power.
So, considering government is the most powerful thing in any given society (only entity "legally" allowed the use of lethal force), you'd choose to be a corporation over a union because unions exploit government power?

>Have you ever heard of corporate personhood?
yeah but that idea is balls-deep batshit retarded.

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It's like a weird Mind's Desire.

The whole point of it is the milling. It's a card that's actually dangerous to Storm sometimes.

If you are milling that much in response to a storm deck, they are winning on the very same turn and won't lose to mill.

bump

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Depending on how hard you storm, some of them may not resolve because you've blown the board of possible targets.

Something small and insignificant to bump the thread

I don;t see the white in this.

I think I like this better as a sorcery, since you have to put a little work into it. (And Plummet effects have always been common.)

Oddly, underpowered, and depending on what you define as a "zone" things get out of hand really fast.

>The fourty-second card in your library goes to the battlefield.

>The enchantment goes to the command zone.

>The exiled creature returns to the hand.

>Exile the fifth card of your library.

>Put target creature from player one's exile into player three's hand.

No. A union gets power from a government and other sources, but it doesn't contain that power in and of itself. I want to point out that I'm not an idiot who thinks a complex problem can be solved with a simple answer that fits on a bumper sticker. At the end of the day, part of what I want from a government is to help the abused and punish the abusers, doesn't matter who they are, union or corporate. My problem with corporations is that they have a very bad track record when it comes to abusing people. They have enough power to influence the system that should be punishing them for their misdeeds. And this idea of imperfect systems isn't something I lay at the feet of corporations, it's something I lay at the feet of humanity. We make systems designed with certain outcomes in mind. And then other humans come in and find ways to exploit and break those systems. For example, the free market. A great idea when it works as intended. Not so great when you get things like monopolies. The faults of the free market aren't exactly even faults of the free market in and of itself, but rather those consequences that occur when the free market is manipulated to produce unintended outcomes. This is why we need at least some degree of control in these systems. Checks and balances, rewards and punishments. Something to account for our devious minds. And don't get me wrong, these people exist everyone. From lawyers and bankers to the union reps and food stamp collectors. And these people won't just stop existing. They'll always exist. And our system must always be able to adapt to these people. A complex answer to a complex problem.

Huh, I think someone last thread was saying something about it being overpowered, perhaps it's just not a fun mechanic? I wanted something with an unglued feel to it but "unglued planeswalker" is proving difficult. To be honest the only part I really like about it is his +1 effect which find to be humorous and in line with other planeswalkers abilities.

Shit name, I know, sue me. Manipulation of the stack means you can power up the same creature exponentially, right?

X in this case is determined on resolution, so yes. If you have three copies that all target a 1/1, the first to resolve puts 1 counter, the second puts 2, and the third will put 4.

How bad of an idea is this?

Cool, thanks.

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>part of what I want from a government is to help the abused and punish the abusers
So what happens when a government abuses?

I was going to talk about how unstable + ephemeral monopolies are in free markets, how you can't get corruption in a free market without governments (lobbyists, patent law etc.) but I think that question gets out everything I'd want to say.

The only other thing I'd add is that you mention the free market a ton in the context of it being an idea, like that people thought of it somewhere in the 1500s and just decided to try out. Not the case. Free trade existed, and worked, long before economic or political theory.

>Card
>Whenever a player casts a creature spell, put a token onto the battlefield.
Sweet sam hill that is disgusting in multiplayer. Taurean Mauler on PCP stuff of nightmares type stuff.

Magic's AND isn't a boolean AND, so "instant and sorcery card" is the normal wording.

>So what happens when a government abuses?
The same thing that happens when any system is exploited to create unintended consequences. You change it.

>I was going to talk about how unstable + ephemeral monopolies are in free markets, how you can't get corruption in a free market without governments (lobbyists, patent law etc.) but I think that question gets out everything I'd want to say.
You keep making it sound as though the government is the devil and the corporations are innocent saints. The corporations are the one corrupting the government. Again, power exploited on a system. You have two systems, the watcher and the watched. The watched corrupts the watcher, and you say the watcher is the problem? The watched cannot be trusted. That is why they are watched. Any philosophy built on the belief that people naturally act from the goodness of their hearts is, frankly, moronic. This is why libertarianism, anarchy, and communism are all terrible fucking ideas. They fail to account for devious minds. They think opening up a system frees people, but then there's nothing to protect them from the exploiters. One exploiter can abuse many people. This is the problem.

>The only other thing I'd add is that you mention the free market a ton in the context of it being an idea, like that people thought of it somewhere in the 1500s and just decided to try out. Not the case. Free trade existed, and worked, long before economic or political theory.
I would respond merely with a million question marks, but Veeky Forums would say my post is spam.

>Ross
Whelp. Back to the drawing board. Again.

It's underpowered due to the sheer randomness of the abilities, and that you'll almost never get to -8 when people hear what it does. A fun concept, but Rick is definitely Red with an effect like that.

Rick is Red in general.

>the watcher and the watched.
who watches the watcher?

At any rate;
People in the government exploit corporations, not the other way around. Individuals in government take bribes to fill their pockets without having to provide any real value. Corporations earn money by providing real value to people, governments exploit this value through forced taxation + opportunity for bribery. From an economic standpoint, government is only ever a net negative to society. The only reason corporations have to "corrupt" government to begin with is because government is a barrier to corporate success, and corporate leaders have to find ways around these barriers or they literally collapse. Of course, if corporations try to get around this government blockade without "corruption", then the government shuts them down by force and probably arrests everybody involved with the business.

>Any philosophy built on the belief that people naturally act from the goodness of their hearts is, frankly, moronic.
>They think opening up a system frees people, but then there's nothing to protect them from the exploiters.
So you are saying that people are so dumb and fragile that they are completely incapable of protecting themselves, so they need a government to do the protecting for them? That sounds mightily like comic book sci-fi dystopian dictator talk to me.

>Whelp. Back to the drawing board. Again.
Just make it whenever *you* cast a creature spell. If you've ever seen a mauler in multiplayer you'd know why this change has to happen.

>Rick is Red in general
You think? The tinge of blue seems right up his ally what with the knowledge/tech theme and save for those he cares about directly he seems to act fairly selfishly and with out typically "good" morals, but that could be explained away as simply having a better understanding of how the universe functions... though his past is still rather shrouded and season 2 could very well (and dare I say likely) prove me wrong. I can certainly see the argument for red though. Kinda Hesitant to make him tri-colored.

Politics and Mythics! Wew!

>Citrus-Eyed
Why is this person's apparent claim to fame that they have fruits in their eyesockets

Not just any fruit! Citrus fruit!

Citrus is a color too
it was actually a nickname from an embarrassing incident that they were teased about forever during their pre-planar avatar life and it just stuck

Making it a sorcery would trim a lot of power off it, similar to Dragonstorm

>who watches the watcher?
Do you know what voting is for?

>People in the government exploit corporations, not the other way around.
Refer back to my original "devil and saints" analogy. Quick question: If Satan--I'm sorry, the government--so desperately wants the saints--sorry again, corporations--to bribe them... why is it illegal? Why would they make something they want to happen punishable by law? If these people were caught doing this, they would be punished by people in positions of authority their system has invented using rules their system wrote. How in the fuck do you justify this in your mind?

>So you are saying that people are so dumb and fragile that they are completely incapable of protecting themselves, so they need a government to do the protecting for them?
What's stopping someone from walking up to you and beating you to death in broad daylight? Oh, the police. Because the police will capture them, then punish them by the laws of the government. Now, what's stopping someone from walking up to you and beating you to death in Somalia? Oh, nothing. And now you're dead. Why would you want to live in a system like this? This is a system where the strong crush the weak, and there is nothing for the weak to protect them. This is why we have our governments. Some freedom is sacrificed for safety. Don't like it? Go to Somalia.
>That sounds mightily like comic book sci-fi dystopian dictator talk to me.
I'm never going to get through to you. A system with no control is a terrible one. There is nothing to stop the strong from crushing the weak in such a system. Your entire outlook on the world is, simply, utopian. And you don't even seem to realize it. Your expectations of people are so unrealistic. If every single person on the planet were moral, logical, benevolent, and humanist, your philosophy would make sense. But that's just not the case. I'm sorry, but the world is not as you think it is.

>Citrus
"you may cast nonland cards as though they had flash". The mana shouldn't empty until end of turn so you can at least use it to ramp. Sure you can flash in some spells during your draw step, but how often do you want to do that in those colors? And it goes against the second ability which presumably is for casting spells during your opponents' turns.

>Many
I quite like this.

>Idol
It's not very exciting. It makes sense color-pie wise, but I don't see myself wanting that effect in WB and would rather have it in a BR suicide deck.

>Enoya
This is a boring pushed-for-constructed mythic.

>how you can't get corruption in a free market without governments
By the way, I want to point out that this statement basically boils down to "You can't have corruption without a government." Which is just a snowclone. I mean... yes, that is true. But that doesn't really mean anything other than pointing to the definitions of words. You're trying to imply that corruption, which we all know is a bad thing, is something inherent in government, which makes government a bad thing. But that's simply not true. Corruption is something that happens to a government, yes, so removing it removes corruption. But that doesn't make it a core part of government.

Let's try this with something else. "You can't have rape without sex." Which is true, rape is defined as sex without consent. But that doesn't say anything about sex. You could even replace "rape" with "STDs" it doesn't change anything.

I think you've missed the point entirely.

>Do you know what voting is for?
To placate the masses? At any rate, I sure wish the EU knew what it was for :'^)

>why is it illegal?
To placate the masses, of course! Do you think any reasonable percentage of politicians that accept bribes actually get arrested? Consider Hilary.

>What's stopping someone from walking up to you and beating you to death in broad daylight?
I know kung fu actually. They'd need a knife at least, or a reasonable deal of training. If it was legal to carry where I live, I would have a gun to stop them *and* know kung fu! Beat that, random street thug. Except the government won't let me carry a gun, so I can't protect myself as well as I would want to. So yeah, I guess you could say that because the government would arrest me for protecting myself...

>Oh, the police.
But also not true. Police response time to a crime is anywhere around ~10-30 minutes. Any committed person could kill anybody else within that window.

>Because the police will capture them, then punish them by the laws of the government.
Vigilantism would do that just fine if the police didn't catch & arrest people for it. Because only those in silly costumes with magic badges can exact justice, right?

>A system with no control is a terrible one.
Free markets have control. It is consumer demand.

>There is nothing to stop the strong from crushing the weak in such a system.
Good! That's how you improve things. A business provides a better, cheaper service than another business so the worse business goes under. Cars destroy the horse-drawn carriage, and yeah some horse breeders suffer but who cares we have cars now! Video killed the radio star etc. etc. etc.

>If every single person on the planet were moral, logical, benevolent, and humanist, your philosophy would make sense. But that's just not the case. I'm sorry, but the world is not as you think it is.
so do only moral people go into government?

> You're trying to imply that corruption, which we all know is a bad thing, is something inherent in government, which makes government a bad thing.
People are inherently corruptible
Governments are made of people. Therefor etc.

>But that doesn't make it a core part of government.
Government is literally people that did not earn money taking money from people that earned it by gunpoint or threat of imprisonment. Sounds like a corrupt entity to me.

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Any checks & balances that the government puts on itself, it is perfectly acceptable to assume people without a government would do it to themselves. People in and out of government are, actually for real, both the same species. Adding an extra layer to the oversight doesn't do anything that a single layer would do just fine (and with less of a cost-burden to society).

Your sex analogy mostly doesn't mean anything so I won't comment on it.

ye this is much nicer good feedback. Thx : )

>Governments are made of people. Therefor etc.
But corporations are all made of great saints. I can't believe you are this stupid. You can't even see your own hypocrisy. If your view were changed to apply to sexes and genders, you would be an SJW. Well, that or a stormfag. You are so closeminded. I kinda feel sorry for you. And I really hate the people who did this to you. But they probably had it done by then too. And you're going to do it to someone else, aren't you? And so the cult continues.

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Add Pemmins aura to something that draws cards and you probably win.

It is RUG after all. No shortage of degeneracy there.

>But corporations are all made of great saints
Nope, made of people. The difference is motivation. Government gets money at gunpoint so they are not accountable to anybody (One election every 5 years? Wooooooah!). At least, they aren't accountable until they do something so blasphemously, explicitly evil they spark a revolution. We're talkin' babies killing babies inside the womb type stuff here. Corporations earn money by providing a valuable service that other people willingly pay for. Doesn't matter if you are evil or good, corrupted or pure, if your only means of success is to provide a quality service, then you provide a quality service. People respond to incentive, that's all it is.

Nice le ad hominem face tho. Glad to see when defending your religion, your mighty faith in government, in funny people that gather together in a special building, wear silly costumes and discuss the nature of reality, you resort to frumpy scatheflinging. There is, actually for real though, no need for you to be so grumplepussy in this conversation.

>Pemmin's Aura + Arcanis
Yes. Yes, this is the dream. May mana burn rest in peace :')

Damn it /Pol/ get out of here!

>Last one for now, I swear.
:'^) We tried.

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You want to get rid of government. You want to get rid of something created to help and defend people. If you have your way, you will create a hell on Earth, and you will gladly do so under the approval of your own conscience. What will you have to say for all those innocents who are hurt by your actions? No, never mind, you'll probably justify it in your own twisted way, saying they deserve it because they're part of that group or the other. You're a fucking maniac. You are my enemy and I will always oppose you. For all that is necessary for people like you to triumph is for people like me to do nothing. When we, the actual humanists and liberals, finally depose the regressives, we will go after the next greatest threat to civilization: You. And we will destroy you the same way we will destroy them, with fact, logic, and reason. You have already lost.

...What if it's already a creature? I mean, I know what will happen mechanically. But flavorfully? Also, I guess Prez (or whatever it's called) might be kinda interesting to do. What was that other old series that was revived for a few issues then cancelled again? Green Team? Yeah, there's definitely a part of me that likes being obscure. But not right now.

>If you have your way, you will create a hell on Earth,
W U T. Is this a copypasta? It reads like a copypasta. I'm going to use this as a copypasta from now on. Aaanyawys-

Like was it hell on earth before government and then suddenly fire and brimstone went away when the first human government was formed? I must've missed that when studying history. I mean, did pre-government nomadic human-like species exhibit anything at all like what you are talking about? Hell to the no.

you will create a hell on Earth, and you will gladly do so under the approval of your own conscience.
tfw *I AM LITERALLY GOD* o baby I can feel THE POWER!

>What will you have to say for all those innocents who are hurt by your actions?
I try not to hurt people intentionally. If I hurt anybody else by accident, I would apologize.

>You're a fucking maniac
woop woop I want people to be free! Freedom for all! I'm CrrrRRRAAAZY! WOOOOO!

>When we, the actual humanists and liberals, finally depose the regressives, we will go after the next greatest threat to civilization: You.
Unfortunately, liberals are afraid of guns & we aren't. So we'd have guns. So we'd win. RIP you. :'(

>And we will destroy you the same way we will destroy them, with fact, logic, and reason.
Government doesn't exist. There is no part of nature that demands it, no law of the universe that states it. It is a state of mind and nothing else, just religion under a different name. You rename churches to parliaments, popes to presidents, but it's the same structure of faith. So yeah, there's some reason.

I, when given the choice between bending dogmatic to an unreal entity & simply enjoying reality, would choose simple reality every time.

for real though, just read how you are responding to some random schmuck on the internet challenging the concept of government.

Your faith in your state is as strong as faith in God. Actually read what you wrote: The threats, the insults, the raw passion. You are religious about this.

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>And you're going to do it to someone else, aren't you?
I'm going to do it TO YOU!

From the way it reads it's all in good humor, even if grounded in serious belief. Both parties seem to be enjoying themselves.

Hard to say if it's copypasta, if it's not it is now though as I will also be using this.

You are literally talking about the future of our society, and how badly you want to tear it down. And you treat it like a joke? Yes, you are a maniac. If you have your way, you will contribute monumentally to the suffering of millions. And you don't even realize it. I will oppose you, because I don't want to see those people get hurt by you, some moron who doesn't even know what a government is or how it works. You are vile and childish. You are as destructive as the SJWs are. The saving grace is you're nowhere near as smart as they are (well, their leaders, but I digress), you'll never be able to corrupt institutions from the inside.

No. This isn't in good humor. I'm not enjoying myself. I'm currently engaged with a lunatic who wants to destroy everything we hold dear. Why would I be enjoying myself?

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>You are literally talking about the future of our society, and how badly you want to tear it down.
Actually, technically this is more of a discussion of economics & ethics. Predicting the future, considering the complexity of the human system, is pretty much impossible. Government is an unethical entity that is a net burden on economy. If you remove government, economy will thrive (We've seen this happen before many, many times. America overtaking the world's economies, the German economic miracle post-WW2, current-day Switzerland etc. Consistently throughout the world & history, the countries with the smallest governments have had the highest standard of living).

>If you have your way, you will contribute monumentally to the suffering of millions.
So, what kind of ratio do you think we'd get if we compared the total death toll of all governments in history to the total death toll of all corporations in history?

Actually though, as economies thrive in the absence of government, standard of living for all classes goes up. The poor get access to cheaper, better basic products. The wealthy drive innovation through investment. Again, this isn't a fantasy. We've seen this constantly through history.

>you will contribute monumentally to the suffering of millions.
>You are vile and childish.
>you are a maniac.
>You are as destructive as the SJWs are.
> I'm currently engaged with a lunatic
Also obligatory pointing out your abso-fucking-lute flat out evil spite & hatred towards an individual for simply expressing an idea. This is some vile stuff you're spewing, exclusively on the basis of someone else having a different set of ideas than you.

>you will contribute monumentally to the suffering of millions. And you don't even realize it.
>Said the pot to the kettle

Man, some art I'm so used to seeing I think it's on an actual Magic card for a second. As for the ability, not really sure how to feel about it. Though the wording is kinda weird. I don't think it needs to say "another spell." I get that you don't want it to enable itself on the turn you cast it, but a permanent isn't going to recognize itself as a spell. Besides, it doesn't have Haste. On its own, you can't use it to enable itself.

Rick is a crazy ass scientist who can build tons of destructive and reality warping inventions on the fly. How is this even a question? He's obviously Izzet aligned.

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oh shit I missed one

>The saving grace is you're nowhere near as smart as they are

Can you give me fact-checked peer-reviewed studies that support anything that you are saying? Or are you merely talking out of your ass?

>Also obligatory pointing out your abso-fucking-lute flat out evil spite & hatred towards an individual for simply expressing an idea. This is some vile stuff you're spewing, exclusively on the basis of someone else having a different set of ideas than you.
It's not that you are merely expressing any simple idea I happen to disagree with, such as saying you prefer one soda that I dislike. It is the fact your specific idea will have adverse effects that you do not want to acknowledge, coupled with the fact that, despite what you may think, you have some say this country's future merely by being a citizen. Your decisions and beliefs will affect this country in negative ways that will only pull us back into the past. You want us to regress. And you are too willfully ignorant to realize it. This is why I'm saying this. It's the same things I say about the SJWs, and for the same reasons.

How does not changing something contribute to something?

>Can you give me fact-checked peer-reviewed studies that support anything that you are saying? Or are you merely talking out of your ass?
Fuck it I ain't google diving this shit. Here have some Wikipedia sources.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirtschaftswunder

okay fuck it I did it
ethz.ch/content/dam/ethz/special-interest/mtec/cer-eth/cer-eth-dam/documents/working-papers/wp_05_44.pdf
>Our results show that life satisfaction decreases with higher government spending
>This negative impact of the government is stronger in countries with a leftwing median voter.
I only read the abstract but hey I'm sure something that you want is somewhere in there. That's one. If you're interested in more you can find it yourself I'm sure, as I did. Your lack of willingness to search this up yourself shows a bit of bias, in not actively seeking ideas that challenge your current views.

> It is the fact your specific idea will have adverse effects that you do not want to acknowledge
If you bring up an actual, specific adverse effect, and not some fucking batshit bull honkey reactionary, vague bullfuck retardo-McEmotional shit like
>You will create hell on earth
>you will contribute monumentally to the suffering of millions.
>your specific idea will have adverse effects
>Your decisions and beliefs will affect this country in negative ways
I'd be happy to acknowledge it & discuss it.

>Your decisions and beliefs will affect this country in negative ways that will only pull us back into the past.
>Negative ways
Prove it.

>You want us to regress.
Yes. I want us to regress from oppression to freedom. Fuck to the holy flash frozen Hell I must be evil.

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How about you both stop shitposting in the the fucking Custom card thread.

I'll have you know that I'm a veritable shitposting connoisseur! But if you insist...

Mana burn is dead. This sucks.

>from oppression to freedom
This is exactly what the SJWs say. Except nobody is being oppressed. What sane people call "taxation" you call "oppression" because the people who have lied to you have told you that taxes are some evil tool the greedy government officials use to siphon money away from everyone else just because they can. One benefit of taxes is healthcare. Government provided healthcare helps people who normally can't afford to pay their medical bills. What do you say to those people whose quality of life dramatically plunges because they can't get their medication? Oh, will the saintly corporations help them? But why would they? Corporations are made to make money. Why give something to someone who can't pay for it? What apologetics do you have lodged in your brain to explain that?

>Prove it.
There is no better form of government than democracy. Every other form has been tried. None of them have ever had the same successes as democracy. Democratic states have the best quality of life hands down. But you would rather live in fucking Somalia. Please, just go there. You want to live in your little government-free utopia? Go to Somalia.

>Wikipedia
Did you even click on some of those links? Ordoliberalism, which is what Germany and Austria were using, relies on a strong role of the state in economics! That certainly doesn't sound to me like a case against a government.

>pdf
>I only read the abstract
Oh, what a surprise. The abstract is just a right-wing circlejerk. Even if I had the time to go through this now, I doubt I would find anything useful.

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Prevents them from using that mana during your second main, if that means anything.

Pemmin's Aura, Freed from the Real, and Mind Over Matter are pretty much giant blinking signs that say "For a degenerate time, tap here."

Guys, gals, anons. Please. Take it to /pol/. I normally enjoy a spirited political debate, but this is really a poor forum for it. I mean the thread being deleted isn't the end of the world, but seriously, bickering about this in the middle of people who either don't care or don't want to deal with it is sort of ignorant. Yes yes, "user means you can do what you want" is all great and good, but if either of you possess any decorum at all, please desist. Thanks.

>manifest
Yesss. I love manifest. Shame the set I was tinkering with it in died horribly because the concept didn't hold up to the mechanics. And I'm bad at this, really.

I like this. Simple, but fun.

Hm. I feel like the third ability on these is a bit much, but mostly because the same thing on an artifact would be easier to deal with. Lands are too resilient. These might smooth things out a bit too much, but at least they don't technically produce bonus mana. I feel like they need to ETB tapped, but I'm kinda bad at lands, so...

not bad

The second and third abilities actually work against each other. If you want to get value from the second ability, you play a land that produces a different color (for example, you could have access to WW or 1U if you played an island after an Andisol Fields).
For the third ability, you have to play lands that match the color of one of these lands, which negates the value of the second ability.
Both abilities could be used if you play a lot of dual lands, but most dual lands come with their own extra price to pay, and color fixing becomes irrelevant if your playing that many lands that produce multiple colors already.

Sorry if that was a bit long winded, but I felt like giving you my thoughts on how I balanced these lands.

You should get rid of the first ability. It's not needed and makes it look like there's more going on than there really is.

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I believe someone posted a UR artifacts-focused version of this last thread.

mechanically yes, but rick is morally very black (a la mark rosewater via blogatog). he could arguably be grixis. he's very sociopathic and narcissistic, which are both blue/black traits. he acts for personal gain, which is the defining black characteristic. finally he's very passionately anti-authority, a red trait.

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