Humanity Fuck Yeah is a pathetic self wank and nothing more than plot armor >we won't get swarmed by the more numerous race nor curbstomped by the one that was waging wars when we were still half apes cuz reasons xD
Thanks guys these threads are greta humans are fucking scum who need to be turned down a notch in any setting fucking apes atleast Veeky Forums finally realizes HFY means humans FUCK YOU
Landon Anderson
The thing I love most about Warhammer fans is nothing. That's what there is about you worth loving too; nothing.
Caleb Bailey
Those man things are full of words shoot them first!
Andrew Martinez
It's probably really telling that all I have is elves/eldar killing humans.
Ethan Watson
Well it's not that humans are particularly shit, it's that HFY is usually full of plot armor, as op pointed out. Aliens that don't breathe oxygen, alien homeworlds with no bacteria, no predators, no war. Completely out-teched humans somehow not being vaporized because of our superior Strength of Will. It's like a bad parody of itself, humans win by having the writer on our side.
Anthony Bennett
Found one with skaven.
Jeremiah Lee
Link me the fic
Jose Stewart
As oppose to all the bullshit stories out there that are basically OP style Torture Porn about humans being weak ass faggots that get slaughtered by Muh Superior Species.
Which is, you know, what HFY was a retort to in the first place.
Colton Adams
Does anyone have pics of humans being dominantly but tenderly loved by non-humans?
William Foster
Is that why people have been hating the HFY? Just some shit writefags? For years I just thought you guys didnt like the memes
Nolan Brown
Well that's my main problem with it, I can't speak for anyone else obviously.
Lucas Reyes
People that hate HFY tend to be the kind of arrogant, masturbatory knuckle-fucks that think the scene in Eragon where the elves slaughter an entire camp of random loggers because of guilt by association is justified and that most people are weak sheeple.
While conveniently forgetting they themselves are human and that there currently isn't a species above us on the rankings list.
I've never read a HFY story where the humans won by raw power of their epic swinging dicks, maybe I just avoid the bad stuff but it tends to be more themed around 'humanity can stand, we are not as pathetic, horrible or damned as we think we are'
Gavin Williams
Get styled on humanity.
Landon Ramirez
>Just some shit writefags? >some Try years of it and annoying fans shoving it into threads where it doesn't belong.
David Flores
And I suppose some of it's the fans, although as always I can't tell if i'm being baited.
Ayden Collins
>humanity can stand
yeah as shown when they surrender or kill themselves when they face their fellow humans in a war huh? lmao I'm sure our glorious species would stand proudly in a face of eldritch horrors and aliens if they can't deal with their own kind without shitting themselves in terror
Easton Sanchez
I prefer humans just being humans aka crazy bastards
Dylan Torres
>humans writing how awesome humans are are not the masturbatory ones
Thomas Clark
And how are you going tp compare us humans to a fictional race?
Jackson Anderson
>Humans lose to humans! OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A SIGN HUMANITY IS WEAK War is a terrible thing, regardless of if you're fighting your fellow man or 6 dicked shoggoths from the LSD clouds of Bognuts.
And know what? If you sincerely believe that then it isn't because others are weak. It's because you are and you're projecting.
People surrender in war, people die and kill themselves. People also run into burning buildings for strangers they've never even met. They die without hesitation every day for other people and volunteer to go into terrible conditions on the behalf of others with no benefit to themselves. Welcome to Planet Earth motherfucker, its all in here, the good and the bad.
And if you've never met a stand up person in your life then guess what, its the same as complaining that everywhere you go stinks of shit, maybe it isn't where you're going, maybe it's because its up your fucking nostrils.
As oppose to writing about how pathetic we are, when we have nothing to compare and contrast with? Yeah, I can see how taking a more positive light on ourselves is totally McSadBad. Until we meet an alien race we won't have a measuring stick to compare ourselves with.
Aiden Rodriguez
By defining the characteristics of the fictional races and then underlining the differences
Sebastian Morris
>I don't like Xwank because the reasons behind the wank are purely arbitrary
>let me wank Y instead, because the arbitrary superiority is justified by my contrarianism in this case, so it's ok
Ok
Jack Torres
So if I want my humans "crazier" than other races, I just have to make them normal? But what if I make those races "crazy"?
>Until we meet an alien race we won't have a measuring stick to compare ourselves with. And that's the problem. This thread is a reaction to HFY bullshittery. And anons became annoyed by it because HFY-fags made the the humans super awesome, while all the fictional races are made dumb, cowardly, primitive. For the sole reason of making the humans look better.
Dylan Miller
Less fedora tipping humans and more dead ones!
Wyatt Price
>For the sole reason of making the humans look better. You mean 'as a counterpoint to all those stories where humans are dumb, cowardly and primitive'? Because that is the essence of where HFY started.
>Fedora tipping Are you even trying anymore.
Brody Moore
Yeah look, I'm le edgy human-hating misanthrope too. People suck, but no amount of self-loathing is going to change that you're human too. The worst part is when you see what you hate about people in yourself.
has anyone here played a character who hated their own species
Landon Gray
>You mean 'as a counterpoint to all those stories where humans are dumb, cowardly and primitive'? As such?
Mason Gonzalez
Once played a LE Vaarag (CE race) who loathed her own people due to being born with an impressively high Int for the species (Int 12, when they're usually Int 6) and considered her own people little more than animals.
Eventually I bought a tribe of 'em as part of building an army and Jesus christ if that didn't become some dark, slave abusin' shit.
Nathaniel White
Eh, it was alright when people just wanted humans to not be the plain, boring race. And then later we got the "aliens can't understand deceit of camouflage! LOL!!" crowd. Making a point about a few neat things humans can do? Fuck yeah. Making aliens blithering idiot cowards so we can be better just because? Fuck no.
Zachary Bennett
What stories would that be?
Evan Jenkins
Kiritsugu is that you?
Michael Lewis
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Jaxson Walker
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Owen Sanders
>All these xeno loving cucks
Absolutely heretical.
Ian Brooks
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Nathaniel Reyes
I am not really a writefag but I would try to write humans but each race should evolutionary standards Humans would be basic but I would try to make Elves just really advanced plant.
Look I dont really do this shit but I dunno humans should be like that really shitty kid on the baseball team but he trains hard enough to lay the smack down after he proves his worth
Liam Hernandez
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Adrian Peterson
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Juan White
>YEAH FUCK HUMANS >posts a vid from one of the most HFY games ever
jesus christ user are you retarded
Oliver Morgan
The entire thought of Catachan should get people who hate HFY pretty rustled
Lincoln Parker
While "humans are better" is boring, "humans are worse" isn't much better.
How about a world WITHOUT humans? Or just a world where humans exist, but aren't very important, like hobbits.
And this thing about humans always being the most "versatile" is also dumb. I mean, elf education supposedly takes 70 years, but they finish it with less skill points and feats than a 18 year old human? Are elves retarded? And we can also get rid of this "humans are the middle ground" thing. Personally i like to make humans notable for their stamina and vigor.
Oh please do post pictures of the imperium getting wrecked though.
Jeremiah Butler
Once we had a party of human-hating/wary non-humans. I played an edgy female human ranger who hated people and traveled with the party. (she was always distrusted though)
Benjamin Wright
>While conveniently forgetting they themselves are human this user gets it OP is an assblasted sperglord who's contrarian for the sake of being contrarian
Christian Clark
HFY as a genre will continue to be moot and pointless until we actually meet another sapient species. We lack the frame of reference to ascertain what actually makes us special compared to other sapients, if any even exist. Space humans and space elves are both simply creatures of human thought. To root for one or the other because it's more "human is stupid" - they're both human, with certain exaggerated stereotypes.
This is why HFY doesn't make me feel anything. I actually think humanity is awesome and is constantly moving towards greater freedom, happiness and progress. But I don't need to read about humanity beating some faggot strawman hippy elves with their 10 inch long dicks because we're great endurance runners or something to believe this. I'd rather read about WW2 heroes or the space program to fill myself with warm and fuzzy feelings about mankind.
Dylan Myers
Right, let me see: Eragon ('Time to kill an entire logging camp for being on the side of the Empire! We're the good guys!') Artemis Fowl ('Hurr, stupid mud men ruining the planet, unlike us with our glorious nuclear bombs living in a semi-utopian society underground') Avatar (The Movie) How about any splatbook for any fantasy game ever that has to do with elves and how much better they are than you? Twilight Vampires Wrathuthu Lovecraft is the grandfather of this for all that I love his work War of the Worlds (Is a wonderful aversion of it and fuck anyone that doesn't like Thunderchild) Stranger in a Strange Land The Haralds of Valdamir Series treats the Companions this way, as just so good, true and perfect that them mind raping their supposed human partners is entirely morally justifiable without exception.
You want the best example, or one of? The House of Night series, in which vampyres (Spelt that way) are all absurdly beautiful and live away from humanity in special peaceful enclaves! Also all of our famous historical figures were secretly vampyres and they're a matriarchal society but never sexist! All wealthy and never spoiled, Stronger and faster than any human but never use their strength to do anything eeeeeeevil because only humans are evil! All deeply religious but never, ever bigoted and oh they're all incredibly pretty with an innocent glow of innerlight that just makes them perfect in every way!
To say there are stories in which people write Supes Special Races to which humans are not only dust, but very grubby and low standard dust and we deserve everything we get for being terrible people, is an underestimation of how many stories like this exist.
Evan Torres
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Julian Cook
>Or just a world where humans exist, but aren't very important, like hobbits. I've been wanting to do that. Humans aren't able to spread out or dominate, instead they keep low profiles and avoid trouble, so when the party of humans starts getting shit done all other species are like "huh well what do you know, humans with a little spine".
Lucas Walker
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Zachary Taylor
>Making aliens blithering idiot cowards so we can be better just because? Fuck no The only HFY I can link to that is the Avatar one but that's the aliens are actually stupid.
Jaxon Young
Everytime I see this picture instead of rioting imagine some setting where elves come out of fucking no where and say they want to convert mankind to a better futures. So of course you got these fucks who are to arrogant to change and lets just say out of the blue the elves somehow managed to disable guns or something.
Jack Martinez
No, you stupid fat sack of shit, that is ALSO dogshit writing.
Aiden Howard
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David Watson
Not saying "those don't count", but a lot of them are just bad fiction I would dismiss automatically for being bad fiction. I mean Twilight. Really? As someone that wants to shit up HFY threads would come up with Twilight vampires.
Nicholas Carter
Well shit, have you considered reading less YA trash?
Nicholas Morgan
>I've never read a HFY story where the humans won by raw power of their epic swinging dicks So you've never been in a HFY thread before?
David Brooks
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Austin Myers
He can't, it's the only thing at his reading level.
Angel Carter
Ah the problem is that your really upset about your assigned summer reading list. Sorry bruh.
Parker Butler
>Dwarf Fortress >Elves are weird fuckers that approve of cannibalism, issue tree quotas to foreign settlements, and attack you with predictably harmless wooden weapons if you violate them,
Brody Clark
yeah but why does this stuff make you so angry, though? why this whole "i'm gonna fight back with terrible wankfic of my own" thing? and the whole "race traitor" / "self-hating human" schtick? you surely must be exaggerating. you know it's fiction, right? we're not actually at war with any ayylmaos, i'm pretty sure
Dylan Long
>sells you wood but attacks if you try to sell it back Goddamn treefuckers trying to be cute with their legal loopholes.
Luke Young
It was mostly some of the Veeky Forums HFY crowd that pulled it, and started a lot of the backlash once things just became a "only humans are competent at all" fanwank.
Human endurance and being crazy bastards can make us an interesting option in a given setting, but when you start writing stuff about aliens fearing us because they have no concept of conflict, it gets stupid fast.
William Jones
Elf Threads are a pathetic self wank and nothing more than plot armor >we won't get swarmed by the more numerous races nor curbstomped by the one that was a bunch of apes while we were waging wars cuz reasons xD
post elves getting killed and tortured
Jose Walker
Lmao at HYFags
>but you are le human yourself
by that logic no one should pick any non human races at all also being a human hardly means you're supposed to take their side in fictional fucking settings.
Justin Reed
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Aiden Hughes
A lot of military forces got beaten by smaller armies.
Don't know why you posted an elf pic to underline your message.
Connor Reyes
You pointy earz iz so funny. All da noizes ya make when I snap yer bones makes me laff each time.
Kayden Edwards
By other elves, though?
Wyatt Fisher
Cry moar elf.
By anyone it doesn't matter.
Carson Stewart
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Ian Price
>Humans are so stupid fighting each other for pointless reasons. >Oh well back to fighting our misguided brethren for no discernible reason.
Michael Ortiz
2edgy4mem8
Ethan Bell
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Mason Lopez
There is a bigger ideological difference between the CWE and DEldar than between the factions inside the Imperium. Except the Admech maybe.
Elijah Smith
>HFY >HFN Both are cancerous. The best solution to this is to keep your fantasy more in line with reality and have every intelligent/playable species be either humans or human offshoots. "Humans better than [made up race designed to be inferior to humans]" or "Humans are worse than [made up race designed to be superior to humans" only works in existential fiction like lovecraft where the point isn't at all to compete with the alien species.
Isaac Clark
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Sebastian Ward
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Eli Morgan
Why can humans and non-humans get along?
Juan Young
Damn you have the worst fashion sense.
Hunter Brown
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Eli Rogers
>spess muhreens trying to tell Eldar how to dress Any kind of Eldar shits on blocky, overdesigned power armor all the time.
Adrian Reed
>Now see, it's a real problem identifyin' elf gender cause they all look the same. What ya gotta do is jam yer thumb up their butt'ole to figger it out. >Ooh! This is a feisty one. It's real pissed. I'm gonna jam my thumb up its butt!
Landon Richardson
>Any kind of Eldar shits on blocky, overdesigned power armor all the time. Except when they don't.
Logan Edwards
Which is all the time.
Alexander Parker
Except when they do.
Dylan Sullivan
>Space Marines >Eldar >knowing anything about style