/cofd/&/wodg/ Chronicles of Darkness and World of Darkness General

I almost used the actual Sheriff of the city I live in as an Angel in my Demon game, a while back.

I even gave him a write-up in the "People of Interest" handout I had in the roll20 for it.
A couple of days before the first session, though, I realized how bad of an idea that was, and swapped him out with the woman who turned out to be the bbeg of the single story that I ran them through.(a sort-of expy of Adele from Dollhouse)

your friends sound like narcissists

I ran a Mage oneshot and the players turned up as a party entirely composed of C-grade local celebrities such the more famous local newsreaders, ex-sports stars, the actual HR manager for the local branch of BHP Billiton etc.

It was honestly fucking excellent.

What bane would the Temenos' Goetia of Bane have?

I ran a MCWoD game (protip: don't) and made it so that many of the famous people of the world were replaced with various kinds of supernaturals. It never affected the game but added flavor to that shitstorm world. If the system was balanced in any way that didn't enable Mages to be walking gods at all moments then it might have been cooler.

I used some "special people" I happen to know as a group of mercenaries in a D&D game - watching the players try to guess why the one warrior was yelling nonsense in between swings was awesome.

The problem with determining that is that anything that would fuck up the big guy himself only adds to the legend that is Bane.

It would have to be a physical representation of something that makes Bane posters stop Baneposting, which I'm not even sure exists.

Possibly the actual actor Tom Hardy on the basis that he is not actually a Big Guy, nor anyone really a Big Guy for him (He's of completely average height), and this dissonance damages its legend.

What's MCWoD?

McDonald's World of Darkness?

Which CofD game is best for roleplaying my fursona?

Would it be a Space 1 Compelling spell to bend perceptions to make someone seem to be a big guy compared to everyone else?

If I took your keyboard away, would you die?

I'm posting on mobile, I don't have a keyboard as such

His Bane is people who are bigger than him.

Monte Cook's World of Darkness.

Changeling

Richard Lovett, actually. If you don't know who he is, he is the president of the CAA, the most powerful talent agency in modern media. He is a silver ladder, and the Hierarch of LA's consilium. It was a counter strategy to the Seers aggressive grasp on the media.

Still posting from a tablet, still thinking of Madge ideas while waiting for my power to come back. I really can't seem to think of anything good. I need something better than realm hopping. My original idea was Silent Hill stuff, with the Primordial Dream bleeding into reality. Maybe have Beasts and Circle of the Crone Acolytes think Mommy's coming or something. Spooky fog and tormenting people who have Guilt. Maybe a mortal cult like The Order...

My other idea is to try to use Gotham City again...
I still have ideas from werewolf. I could probably call it a genus loco or something and incorporate some of that Amadeus Arkham curse stuff.

Or just "lots of Irises and Verges, go explore The Hedge and Underworld and so on"... But that one seems boring. But also best for random adventures. I guess I will just have to talk with my players, but I want something to do while waiting for my power and conserving this tablets charge...

I statted Salt out as a Universal Ban. Can touch anything, and hurts Rank 0. If you can salt an iron weapon, it'll do at least bashing, and is basically an agnostic version of a blessed weapon.
A Salt line is treated as a Bane of "Do not cross", but rank 2+ can spend Willpower and roll to move in. Iron circles are a stronger version.
I basically made a Supernatural toolkit, but don't have it on this tablet.

Yes, Obama was a major NPC in the last Mage the Ascension game I ran. He was kind of like the mortal spoiler for the main conflict between a coalition of Technocratic and Traditions Mages against Jihadi vampires (and Nephandi) who were waking up an antediluvian.

>Haven't heard back yet, but I didn't expect to hear anything before Gen Con.
>I'm irrationally afraid that my posting here has completely fucked me.
Me too, but I haven't submitted yet. I don't know how to sell myself in the cover letter. I do think my write up was good, though everyone I showed it to was a little concerned about the Nightmare on Elm Street reference to a guy who "touched" kids. Toned that down just in case...
Hope I didn't make any mistakes.

Can i simply use the Heavy Rain and Flooded tilts for Heaven Unleashed in addition to its normal effect or would it be too much?

What's that?

Gift of Weather from Wt:F 2e

Stat me in Mage 2e.

Acanthus with Prime legacy?

Moros with Time legacy?

Size/Type: Large Magical Beast
Hit Dice: 5d10+25 (52 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares)
Armor Class: 15 (-1 size, +1 Dex, +5 natural), touch 10, flat-footed 14
Base Attack/Grapple: +5/+14
Attack: Claw +9 melee (1d6+5)
Full Attack: 2 claws +9 melee (1d6+5) and bite +4 melee (1d8+2)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Improved grab
Special Qualities: Scent
Saves: Fort +9, Ref +5, Will +2
Abilities: Str 21, Dex 12, Con 21, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 10
Skills: Listen +8, Spot +8
Feats: Alertness, Track
Environment: Temperate forests
Organization: Solitary, pair, or pack (3-8)
Challenge Rating: 4
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: 6-8 HD (Large); 9-15 HD (Huge)
Level Adjustment: —

Oh, that's why I didn't know it. I assumed Madge and couldn't find it.

His schtick is very tied to how Mages work in his setting. At best you could copy personality and outlook, in which case he wants Fate, Prime and Matter, using Prime and Matter for enchanted bullets and shit. Probably Moros, from attitude. Or a fatalistic Acanthus.

I need to make owlbear stats for CofD. Maybe just mix the owl mental traits and bear physicals.

Idiot with stupid hair and a pistol.

>Maybe just mix the owl mental traits and bear physicals.
sounds good to me. I believe it could also function as the smallest representation of a Forest Spirit.

I just had a strange idea for a group of Skinthieves who, instead of using the hide of a singular animal, use parts of several different hides to provide mixed benefits.

How strong is fortitude really? Seems like not many Ventrue use it, but it can theoretically make you nigh-invincible.

Use parts of supers

I think the guy in the previous thread is right about Vampires not needing politics. That part of the gameline feels pretty tacked on.

Our Storyteller makes us play Vampire like this, as fanged, bloodthirsty monsters with life experiences and backgrounds ripped from our lives.

GODSPEED, CONFEDERATE FLAG MAN

Because that's going to end well.

Aside from Patcworks I also had an idea for a branch (hue) of Skinethieves called Woodskins. Woodskins are people who use trees with holes tha have bein carved into them and coated in resin to walk around as a tree monster

DEVILSPEED, CONFEDERATE FLAG MAN

I wanted to run a crossover game of someone trying to build a Promethean out of supernaturals. Based on/imspired by book one of Dean Koontz' Frankenstein. And also that show about a murder in a bridge tunnel between UK and France or whatever. A joint taskforce is put together when mortals + go missing, and maybe some vamps disappear.

THe killer needs the best body parts. And maybe there is more than one. In the book, a serial killer was taking women's bodyparts out of a compulsion, just expecting maybe some unearthly beauty formed of those parts would show up to him, while a Frankenstein type guy was killing people to see their insides. The cops thought they were the same, but Deucalion (Victor's first creation, before making himself immortal and creating hundreds of created) helped stop the killer. It was an okay book, and the plot is great for involving Promethean in a non-Prommie game.

What does low Humanity feel like?

If an individual started with 7 Humanity, always had 5 Conscience, and now has 2 Humanity, over the course of just one month, what does that feel like? What has changed?

I'm having a hard time distinguishing what Humanity and Conscience mean, how they overlap, and how they differ.

Conscience is if you can live with yourself.
Humanity is whether you feel like a monster.

High Conscience, low Humanity is basically saying "I've become a horrible person. I've killed dozens and ruined the lives of so many more, but I know why I did it, and I can live with that".

Though really all of those bits that form morality was my least favorite part of WoD, and that's saying something.

As is customary with many things in WoD, think of it however you like. It doesn't really make much sense to begin with.

In Masquerade, low Humanity usually means you have become more evil and selfish. However, in this particular case (max Conscience combined with super-low Humanity) I would actually advise taking a page from Requiem.

You still kind of care about the bad you do and realise you are a monster, but you also kind of accepted it. You will hurt people and have done so and will continue to do so. You might try to minimise the pain you cause but in the end, it is very clear to you that you are not mortal, that you are a predatory monster beyond redemption. That is just how it works.

Guys, in Mage 2e what level of Matter do I need to rewrite something on a card?
I mean, I stole a CC from a random dude and I need to change the name on it, how can it be done with magic?

Weaving, 3 dots. +2 Reach to make it Lasting or Patterning, 4 dots if you want to change the writing already on the card to something else.

Thanks, user.

Can I repair/heal with Time 3?

You could accelerate healing, but you'd have to revert an object to a point in time that it was undamaged, and (per Shifting Sands) Time can't do that at 3.

Nigga, Nasuverse IS MtAs

Shouldn't it be a Perfecting spell for healing bashing?

Perfecting your healing should be perfectly (ha!) possible, but that would be a more general effect, like halving healing times by Potency, instead of straight up healing like Life would. It would also be a bit more unhealthy than Life healing as this spell would literally make you age faster, costing you time of your life (of course than you can cast a Veil of Moments to balance it out afterwards).

People cause politics. Blood isn't important. Having people with whom you can relate, who know more than you, who have power and resources you don't, and perhaps most importantly, have different opinions than you, that you HAVE to live with creates politics.

Not to mention the very specific reasons for vampire politics in WoD, the whole "our antediluvian boss told us to do X or he'd vaporize us" followed by "the local Prince said I needed to do Y or he's blood hunting my ass". You don't play the game, you get got.

Perfecting is used to restore patterns that fall under the arcanum's purview. You're not healing the person's timeline, you're trying to use time to heal them, which means the practice will be different.

Namely: Perfecting (giving them "more time") could accelerate someone's natural healing, but since objects have no natural healing (if anything, accelerating the passage of time would worsen things), you'd need to Weave the object back to a prior point in its timeline (Temporal Summoning), and then make the spell Indefinite.

So I goofed; you CAN do it at 3 dots, but it's not "true" lasting healing, it's more like a long-lasting band-aid, for objects.

What happens when you kill a ghost in the underworld? It will reform somewhere down there as long it had a point of essence?

Yeah, it will.

Which clan do you think would work best with this character design?

ventrue or tremere

Brujah, Gangrel, or Ravnos

Daeva.

I'd go for Mekhet or Daeva. But really, anyone that isn't deformed works.

Mekhet or Nosferatu.

Probably something like the Operative from Serenity. They know that they and what they do is monstrous, but hold their motives in such high regard that they continue.

So, I'm trying to scrabble together a few ideas for mysteries for statting my hometown for Mage. At the moment, shit I've determined (using IRL occult research) that could be a strong starting point, and indeed a necessary one given the city's lack of urban legends:

- The most isolated (State or National) Capitol city in the world.

- The furthest Capitol City in the world from a primary ley line.

- Paradoxically, the 2nd closest capitol city to the nearest 5-way primary ley line hub, one of only 4 in the world that occur on land (The others being Mt. Everest, The Pyramids, and some seemingly random stretch of Northwest Mexico)

- The city is incredibly sprawled, occupying many times the area of Los Angeles for instance at only a fraction of typical urban density.

- There is a single tertiary ley line crossing anywhere near the CBD, which has a number of prominent shopping districts built on it as well as the only movie theatre in the northern half of a city of millions.

- There are a number of awful monuments everyone hates, none of which have much history to them. The only old buildings in the city are the entire docks district, the university clocktower, and a couple of things in the CBD like a diminutive old church and the old bank.

- There are fucktons of brass statues everywhere. Street art isn't really a thing like in other major cities for some reason, but there is no end to the tide of life sized brass statues of previous city inhabitants. Mostly not even famous ones. Not on pedestals, just doing mundane stuff like sitting on a bench that was already there, waving for a taxi, trying to gather up stuff that fell out of their suitcase, crawling out of a manhole, checking building blueprints etc.
I'm assuming some sort of medusa plot would be good for this but we're a long way from Greece and I don't want it to be cliche.

Could push for the artificial vibe, like this shouldn't be the Capitol City or as large as it is, but something wants it to serve a grander purpose. Maybe they're trying to emulate the ruins of a Time Before or the city has just been building itself and the fact that people use the buildings is just coincidental. Things just appear and dissapear when no one is looking, no one remembers how they came to live in the buildings that they do. Incorporate the crime and homelessness rates into it to show how content the populence is with its surroundings.

Maybe they're only here to camouflage what's beneath the surface.

This sounds cool. Where is it?

youtube.com/watch?v=dbL-NSkXnl8
It's official, the Red Guy is either a Mage or one of the Unchained.

How the hell do you balance Chimestry? Looking at a Requiem 2e conversion for it, and it just seems like it's only limited by imagination. It's terrifyingly powerful.

You remember things like Mages, Demons and Beasts exist and stop giving a shit.

Small local vamp pop will have little to none.
Medium local vamp pop might have a covenant member or two present.
Only when the population sky rockets do politics really get involved.

Could also be a mortal that wandered into Infrastructure.

It's limited by the same things that irl chemistry is limited by. If they want to create something, have them tell you what it would require, the dangers and why every chemistry undergrad doesn't do it on the weekends.

Well, according to the other replies to your post, apparently any fucking clan you want.

What is the relationship between the Fallen and the rest of the supernaturals, especially Mages.

They are demons but they clearly aren't the demons that the Nephandi or Baali deal with (doesn't even seem like Earthbound).

They don't exist in my game though it's basically vampires only.
Chimestry is the Ravnos discipline from Masquerade.

How big an Act of Hubris is it to go into the Temenos to kill internet memes?

It a service to humanity. I'd reward them with Wisdom.

Eh, probably fairly minor, I'd say it's a sin on average against Wisdom 8+?
You're forcibly changing public perspective by killing a concept.
Probably 9+ if it's social detritus/cancer, or as low as 6+ if it's in relation to a political/social topic, as you're forcing people to abandon thought about a specific important issue.

Really though it won't be easy.
We're talking Rank 4-5 Goetia for any of them worth a damn.

>We're talking Rank 4-5 Goetia for any of them worth a damn.

>yfw Pepe is on par with a Rank 5 incarna

That's ChimeRstry. You balance that by not playing oWoD.

Not worth your while. They talked about that stuff in Soul Cage and you could kill a concept, but depending on how large it is, it would reform quickly. With the internet, people are thinking of memes all the time, so it would come back instantly.

Are there any chill Brujah?

Not according to Mage 2e.

>With the internet, people are thinking of memes all the time, so it would come back instantly.

Nah.

Mage 2e:
In fact, it’s possible to alter collective thought realms by changing their stories. These changes manifest in the material realm. If you want to get a television show cancelled, kill the protagonists in the Temenos; on some level, viewers will believe the show’s dead and watch something else.

Are you ready to kill Westeros and BTFO the /got/ autists over in /tv/ and Reddit?

>implying memes are less pervasive than true love

The God of Memes might be.
But individual Memes in his Court may live and die at his whim.

>God of Memes
What does he look like?

Donald Trump with dicks for hands.

Who knows? Probably ever-changing.

What kind of "super evolved monsters" are there for each splat in the Chronicles of Darkness? I know that there are Archmasters for Mage and Alpha predators for Beast, but what about Demon, Vampire, Werewolf and the other splats?

Haha oh man. I posted it right before heading to sleep. It's Perth, Western Australia.

Arch-Sin Eaters are very strongly implied to be Death Lords. Demons, Vampires and Werewolves have instances of them that have become archmage tier, but there's no consistent classification for them. Like, the Vampire one is a archmaster tier ghost-type entity that anchors to anyone who ever uses Cruac.

Are there any more instances of those "Archmage-Tier" classifications that you know of? They seem super interesting, especially since there doesn't seem to be any concrete method to create one unlike Mages and Beasts.

Not really. Mages and to a much lesser extent Beasts are an aspirational splat. They have a set endgame goal, or at least a suggested one.

All Vampires can do is get stronger, and in fact many don't want to get much stronger, as Blood Potency can have some heft drawbacks.
Same story with Changelings, sure the Wyrd is great and all, but the higher you get, the more of your Durance you remember, and the harder it is to hold on to Clarity.
Werewolves? Eh, haven't read that one much, but all I guess you do is become the motherfucking apex predator of the Spirit and keep up the good work.

guise, i wanna get into wod, vampire to be precise. what should i read? cwod, owod etc. etc. all that shit confuses me so much

First universe, World of Darkness, which is the Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines universe, it's all about Caine, being cursed by God, and is firly rooted in the 90's, and a universe 3 seconds away from destruction by various horrific forces. Grab yourself Vampire the Masquerade if you want to look into that one.

Second universe, Chronicles of Darkness, the one created second, it has little definitive metaplot and less history on the whole. The clans are a few general groups, and there are lots more factions. This one's Vampire the Requiem, of which the 2nd edition is still somewhat new.

I totally forgot but, high Wyrd Changelings are implied to be able to transition to true fae, and while there is no statted way to do this with sanity intact, there are easily enough rules lying around to assemble rules for playable True Fae.

They actually saw use in a multi-splat game I was in. Pretty cool. You have titles, which can be reabsorbed or extruded into several different forms.

>there is no statted way to do this with sanity intact
You're going True Fae.
Of course you don't get to stay sane.