Warmachine/Hordes General /whg/

so what if they were basically conquered by one guy who's not even a warcaster.

Skorne is legit, baby

Am I being memed on? Where is he getting focus to power nine nomads?

>the leader of the faction is literally named Loss
With a lot of creative interpretation.

Power Up

So when do the new rules for the units come out?
My pals and me bought in on 2nd edition, but don't have a lot of room to wiggle around with units, so we want to know if we will stick with 2nd edition for a bit (because our lists definitely work there) or if we can go right ahead with 3rd.

You can start playing Mk3 Skorne RIGHT NOW.

Download "War Room 2" from your friendly app store platform of choice, and buy that Skorne deck.

The only things missing are some friends and some SKREEONK

Or download the rules PDFs. Or buy the cards. Or wait for WHAC.

>Or download the rules PDFs
Seems like I'm retarded then, because I could only find the Prime download, which has no units.
Where's the other pdfs then?

We've only bought Warmachine armies, so no Skorne now.

I'm curious about kitchen table warmahorde. Did someone tried Rumble format? how did It goes?

>Where's the other pdfs then?
There are leaked PDFs floating around in case you want to cheap out on the rules.

Not too much.

we do a few variant formats including 'jack wrastlin' which limits factions to only warjacks with open fists and can only use power attacks.
Though we brought back head and arm locks for it.

Alright, so with the MK3 change, I'm thinking about trying the Lucant Galvanizer spam idea, and I'm curious to see how it goes.

It kept all the benefits, but got cheaper, and Galvanizers picked up 1" melee and two boxes. So the entire package is now worth almost 50 more boxes than a unit of Recips.

Playing around with this, sort of trying to maximize Grievous Wounds while Storm Knights crack ARM. Unfinished though and I could use some advice on completing it.

Bumping with super phoned in paint job. What is everyone else working on?

Post pictures of whatever goofy stuff your painting.

Anyone see any good 3e Darius lists yet?

meh.
It's warmachine, but you fight in waves rather than with your whole army.
It gets old quick.
It doesn't live up to the hype.

Then again none of mk3 lives up to the hype.

Still not as good as Amon running Crusaders.

it's close, though

Check muh list plz niggas;

A subtle mix of Crusaders and light WJs (Devouts, Dervishes, Purifiers (once they exist) Repenters, Vigilants and even Revengers.

Now that's a polyvalent list that will kick all sorts of ass.

Mech thralls are garbage now
Replace with bane knights and win

but they are cheap and repop ?!
surely recursion can still be useful?

How many points is a unit of bane knights?

>How many points is a unit of bane knights?
Literally use the website you made your list in to check

This poster is a trashy player that wants to play 100 points so he can fit all of his infantry :^)

>goofy stuff your painting.
My stuff is not goofy.

It is grim.

I'd replace party worm and the reaper with DJ and all of your infantry choices with 2 units of bane knights, BLT and Darragh Wraith. Alternativly, consider Blood Witches + Hag

Your color palette looks nice. I'd say that he needs a good wash to really pop, but otherwise he looks great.

Oh! And wrong eye and snap jaw are bananas

The colors are good, but in desperate need of shading.

In fairness he's clearly not finished.

oh wow, so troll, many funny.

shit posters leave

yeah, get them outta here so the real Skorne chat can begin

Yeah, I've only really finished the skin so far. Will post back when everything is done (assuming I get around to it).

yeah you best get out then faggot.

It sounds more like you're a cunt. Have you even tried rumble variant? Not many people have and it doesn't look like it is going to be used often.

asked last thread, then passed out and it 404d, how are cephalyx doing in the new edition?

Mostly a lateral change. Drudges can't punch the world to death nearly as well since they lost 1 P+S and Agitate no longer benefits them. But Overlords have Veteran Leader for Drudges, and Mind Slavers have a far more effective way to create new Drudges. A lot of Cephalyx swapped Sac Pawn for Stealth, which is objectively way worse. They lost access to Cryx solos, but the Dominator went up to FA: 2. But Monstrosities remain disgustingly cheap, their Warcasters are great, and their theme force is baller as fuck.

still a meme army

See

Their theme is baller. For taking them, you get:
>For every 30 pts. of Drudge units, you get a free Overlord unit
>Monstrosities gain Hyper Aggressive
>One unit of Mind Slaver and Drudges gets to Ambush

Anyone got Wild Adventure?

Did they move the story forward?

Been asking this for several threads now. Don't think anyone does yet.

Speaking as probably the biggest fan of McThralls on the planet: Nope. Might as well melt all of them or use them for bits. They're fucking shit now.

that is real fuckin fancy

On a different note: am I the only one who thinks PP fucked up big time at Lock and Load? Like, they really dropped the fucking ball.

That's been the general consensus.

I heard rumors from our local PPIDF that their marketing manager got fired over LnL's presentation, but I don't know if I buy it.

LnL was the cherry on top of their poorly mismanaged MK3 release campaign.

With PP I wouldn't be surprised if they did fire him actually. Well, if we see a job posting in the next year, I guess we'll know.

What are the toughest factions on both sides?

I mean, if we do, it's pretty easy to understand why. Most of this shit was his job, ultimately.

PP has a hard enough time not being businessmen by trade, having a marketing manager do this shit is just terrible for them.

Simon Berman was quitting Privateer Press confirmed since last month but stayed on until the end of Lock and Load (he's the guy that organized them all to date). He left to pursue his own publications or something of the sort.

Warmachine? Convergence. They lost some of it in the new edition, but they're still the toughest nut to crack.

Hordes? Trolls.

Depends on who you ask. If you were actually at the convention it was great. If you were in Europe it sucked

Define toughest, if you mean longest table presence then probably Trolls and Convergence

Highest arm, boxes and other ways of reducing fiat damage taken (so def is a no no).

I mean, the Convention itself was fine, but ultimately 90% of the interactions there were with other players, so of course you'll enjoy that.

But the official stuff, like the keynote? It was insane. I mean, unless you enjoy watching Matt direct people to where to buy shit.

And PP has still refused to say anything about it either.

Convergence, full stop.

Lucant, Syntherion, and Axis all have ways of stopping the enemy from getting there, and prefer bricky lists. Lucant was the king of it in MK2, though he lost one of his best spells for it, he's in some ways gotten even better at taking it on the chin and then just ignoring what the fuck they just hit you with.

>And PP has still refused to say anything about it either.

I was at the one in Germany myself, which wasn't the best convention (even the stuff that had nothing to do with PP was kinda bad), I was just curious what people thought of the actual LnL.

They did talk about the key note. Sorry version is they're sorry, they just really wanted to get the Mk3 stuff out and going and that was that.

Basically just mismanaged expectations on their part since they figured people wanted to play games, not listen to previews for Level 7.

I have finally understood how to fix trolls and make them not feel underwhelming. Behold my genius.
>ban KSB
>all models get +2ARM +1STR
>point costs stay the same

trolls are fine

>Kriel Warriors, Scouts, Skinners, Highwaymen, and Sluggers are still trash
Sounds good to me

Everytime I look at the Earthborn card, I feel a sadness inside.

Trolls are strongly meh and overpriced when compared with other factions especially now that you cant run all the support. Fenns and mauler are their only two good models outside of locks.

Have you played games or have you only looked at cards?

Interesting, though I don't think it really covers as much as it should. Even if they wanted to have the keynote be shortened, they should have done something to talk about the new edition. It's not like it needed to be LnL focused, they absolutely could have released the video solely though the internet and people would have been happy.

>Fenns and mauler are their only two good models outside of locks
Oh God, it's retarded.

I'll help you out here though since you appear to have forgotten about Champions, Fire Eaters, Warders, Krielstone, fell caller, Rok, Bomber, slag Troll, Storm Troll, Mountain King, Long Riders, and whole pile of other stuff.

>they should have done something to talk about the new edition
Not sure if Matt mentioned it in that post or another one but basically he said we've been talking about the new edition on the forums and on primecast for the last two months. There really isn't anything else to talk about right now.

I guess part of my complaint is that they did such a shitty job talking about Mk3 on the forums, so being told that doesn't really convince me of much.

I know he sounds sincere, and this is probably all true.

But the man is still a giant bag of dicks. Just wanted to remind everyone.

It's a lot of words that basically boils down to "working is hard"

Go on.

What kind of chart?

Champions lost two arm for two def in melee which makes them still impossible to miss but significantly squishier. Hero lost reach and cant be buffed by animi so he no longer swats infantry. Champs cant move through each other. Warders are the best shield guard on a stick around, but there is hardly anything worth protecting with so many points. Fell caller is not good, its necessary to make up for the downsides. It no longer pays of to take pyre to ignite fire eaters. I cant be bothered writing more on my phone. Point being other factions got everything better.

You know how War Room and Tactics are both shit? Mostly this guy's fault in both instances.

Vinter attacked cygnar
Magnus killed vinter and Leto let julius take the throne
Julius sues for peace and gets a truce with khador
Vlad is engaged to the empress of khador now
toruk is healing up after a dragon fight and consuming an athanc
goreshade rallies the iosans to fight and defeat the skorne in shyrr
sevy barely survives an assassination attempt by zerkova
protectorate sends emissaries to zu

>things are different from Mark 2
No shit sherlock.
Every faction got nerfed.

Except for Khador. Most of their stuff got better. A lot better.

Name a dedicated melee 10 man worse than kriels. Name a dedicated shooting 10 man worse than bushwhackers. Name a heavy more useless than EBDT.

You're complaints about Champions basically boil down to 'playing is hard, wah'. And you don't need a Pyre to ignite Fire Eaters btw, they can do it in their own.

Are you sure you're not retarded?

Wait, where's a lot of this shit from?

Don't know what else to tell ya besides everything sucks and the ship is sinking fast. PP knows this and we'll see how things shake out but the game is going to fold under the relentless pressure of better or more popular games.

McThralls

WGI

I'm less pissed about Mk3 itself, I overall like the direction the game has taken.

It's just their public image of the new edition and a lot of their changes has been so insanely terrible.

Power 14 shooting kills champs on average rolls.

Ok

Sword Knights
Kossites
Circle Goat heavies

I second the McThralls. Can't hit infantry, can't damage even a light jack