Which of the following acts causes a paladin to fall?
> Deliberately killing an innocent man to save another innocent man in a diabolical scheme > Deliberately killing an innocent man to save what he thought was another innocent man but was actually a lich > Accidentally putting on the helm of opposite alignment > Accidentally giving the helm of opposite alignment to his paladin friend, causing him to fall, then subsequently killing him because he was acting evil > Accidentally leaving a shop with goods in his pocket > Looting what he thought was a dungeon but was actually somebody's home > Looting what he thought was a dungeon but was actually a temple to his god > Sleeping with an underage person who assured him she was 18 > It also turns out it was his sister > Killing an innocent man while under a spell > Killing an innocent man because he drank a potion causing berserk rage that was served to him as beer > Having his god die somehow > His god has become chaotic evil somehow > His order has become chaotic evil somehow > His order is telling him to kill innocent people so he rebels but it turns out those innocent people were actually evil sorcerers > Choosing himself to live instead of an NPC in a diabolical scheme where he gets to choose who lives
Also it's way more fun to scheme than to tell people to not play paladins so shut up.
Alexander Richardson
1, technically 3, more factors need for 4, 16
Aaron Moore
Hm assuming that paladin is a paragon of his / her god's domain.
And that gods sometimes happen to be ascended mortals.
Why not go with god having middleage crisis and swapping its own alignment to neutral. At least, untill it found new purpose and domain, after partying in mortal realm, bedding hoes and drinking heavily.
Jose Nguyen
Depends. On. Setting. (and DM)
In brightright or Points of Light. NONE of those cause a paladin to fall. They keep their powers to the day they die.
Christian Brooks
Only intention counts
Bentley Rivera
That's contradictory. If he sacrifices innocents to save himself so he can kill an evil lich later and save more innocents he's definitely no longer lawful good.
Adrian Thomas
you forgot >asking complicated moral questions in regards to a system clearly not made for complicated moral dilemmas that's an instant fall right there have you tried not playing dnd?
Nicholas Baker
1, 2, 4, 5 (Assuming you mean stealing here), 6&7 (If he doesn't give the stuff back), 12 (in most settings), 13 (in most situations), 16 (Depending on his deity; Deity of Strength? You're probably good. Deity of Compassion or Sacrifice? Probably fall.)
If you're going to pull some dick move out of your hat like "paladins fall, everyone dies" then you might as well let them switch to fighter for the sessions that their deity is dead or whatever.
Anthony Hernandez
Yeah but that's intentional. Executing a bunch of innocents under the illusion of being criminals is not intentionally killing civies.
Ian Nelson
nevermind I'm tired and I just misread the whole thing.
