>What the FUCK? What rules books do I actually need? pastebin.com/6AGsum1s (Updated again) (Short version: 2007 edition of the rulebook, 2010 Update, and Armada)
>Where can I find physical miniatures to use/proxy with? pastebin.com/jC96JeMV (Updated, but still incomplete: feel free to chip in with others in-thread)
I'm looking forward to playing them but constant Marines vs Marines battles for the next few days is going to get old soon
Andrew Smith
Eh, just imagine it's the heresy or some such.
Andrew Hill
>Even the Fallen are offered a chance for redemption >shows the Dark Angels Top kek
Ryder Ramirez
>5PM GMT That is in like 3 hours more for me!
When you are a manager you can play while at work. (Well when is not harvest season and you have bugger all to do till then)
Jeremiah Ross
Used to be able to game at work when I was doing contracting for CalFire - those were excellent days, where I got to sit around and wait for fires, doing fuckall for 10 hours a day.
In any case, I want to see what the favors for the SM are like.
Jack Howard
NO. FALLEN. HERE. END OF DISCUSSION!
Camden Foster
...
Levi Ward
I'm kinda curious what they're going to do for the Space Marine's Cruiser and Battlecruiser slots, since it basically goes Rapid Strike Vessel - Strike Cruiser - Nothing - Nothing - Battle Barge.
Jason Torres
My guess? IN ships with modifications.
Landon Bailey
Looking at the trailer and the already in-game, mission specific strike cruisers, it appeared to me that the ones in the trailer had distinct differences in size and shape. I might be reading it wrong (and it might just be them finalizing the design), but they might just make it up as they go along and bullshit some cruisers and battlecruisers.
Lincoln Myers
Maybe Strike cruiser spam
Connor Morris
They might grab some of the ships from Battlefleet Bakka or the other supplements.
I mean, I wouldn't be adverse to some Armageddons, and the 20 strength weapons batteries of an Avenger would be hilarious to play with
Brody Thomas
>tfw forced to drop multiplayer after the beta
The campaign was glorious and I had a blast in beta, but I really hope I can actually connect to some games and not crash consistently when Space Marines arrive. Nothing sucks more than loving something that won't love you back.
Nathaniel Parker
Downloading the update now, SPACE MUHREENS!
Christian Hall
My body is not ready!
Thomas Cox
What? What planet do you live on, it's not hit the hour yet.
Colton King
Slow internet smdh
Joseph Clark
Yeah, just started working now. Must be all that porn I've got open in the other window.
Josiah Gonzalez
The wonders of slow third world internet connections.
Jonathan Cooper
Nah, it's just my bastard brother playing Civ 5 downstairs.
Camden Rogers
How the fuck do I select the Space Marine fleet? It doesn't show up in the factions...
Ryan Sanchez
I'm curious if the Space Marines will be implemented in the current campaign instead of those placeholder ships we currently have.
Blake Green
Never mind, got it.
Parker Sullivan
Any chance you could enlighten me? Cause I can't find it either.
Aiden Hernandez
It just appeared for me, no joke.
William Fisher
The favours look interesting, they each unlock a new crew member that boosts them even further.
The mutiny trigger might be fun as hell, since nobody levels their morale crew right now.
Lucas Murphy
>finally off from work Time for Wolfnar Wolvenfist to charge into battle
Hudson Howard
Are the Marines a bit feeble or do I just suck?
Ian Cooper
Word of the Emperor looks like it could be quite useful if you end up in super close quarters with Orks, especially if they just WAAAGH'd.
Is the standard Strike Cruiser the starting light cruiser class?
Blake Cook
Why am I so shit at this game? I was master at SC2 but I can barely beat the campaign on easy?
Tell me your secrets Veeky Forums.
Nathan Parker
So the IN, at least, have lost the extra hull points upgrade but it's been replaced by the Imperial Assassin upgrade. Interesting.
Nolan Lopez
SM have homing boarding torpedoes has an upgrade. AP ammo does not apply to the bombardment cannon. Ships have very low HP/Shield to compensate to how broken they are. Light cruiser only have 400 HP and 100 shield but are very fast with 225 speed. Also pic related.
Lincoln Wright
Nope, something called a Vanguard (three different kinds) that looks like a tiny battle-barge.
David Young
Battle Barge's bombardment cannons are sexy as fuck
Robert Evans
The chance to trigger a mutiny on lightning strike does sound useful, but I'm gonna miss that 100HP.
Lincoln Cox
Because for the first time you are playing a game that requires strategy and tactics.
Gavin Baker
Awww, it's adorable!
Gavin Powell
SM kinda feel weak
Joshua Cruz
>Campaign Nova Cannons everywhere, concentrate your fire, Pair up lance boats with macro battery ships, keep your ships close enough to support each other, When in doubt, Ram, and a Swarm of Swords can kill pretty much anything
Grayson Barnes
Yeah, it was a nice little bonus but no huge loss. I could never find much use for my Dauntlesses but now if you combine the Space Marine favour with the extra lightning strike upgrade, imperial assassin upgrade and mezoa drives you get a great little assassin ship with decent resilience
Leo Adams
Vanguard is just a lighter strike cruiser. It's existed for a while.
Bentley Price
Probably will get a shitload stronger on higher levels, considering that their favors scale with crew level
Ethan Williams
If I'm reading this right, Master of the Forge can give up to 3 upgrade to a single ship, right?
Also bombardment cannon are a weaker version of the Ork Mega cannon with less crit chance, except you can actually use it since it has longer range and their ships are fast.
Aaron Fisher
>Nova Cannons lol
Michael Hughes
everything counts in large amounts
Xavier Turner
Not yet entirely sure if I should prioritize torpedoes, bombardment cannons or fighter bays
Juan White
I've got one of each type of ship and I'm going to see which I like the best over the next few games
Landon Lewis
Bombardment cannon is dope against shields. Slow RoF though, and it's only mounted to the prow.
David Flores
>SM’s favor are unique in the literal sense as in they are all 1 use favors meaning you can only use each favor on only 1 ship in your fleet
Copied from a thread on the steam forum. I guess that makes it more interesting because you are less inclined to just spam the same favor onto every ship
Nathan Gonzalez
the cruisers get one with 270°
Isaac Allen
>you can finally set a ship behavior that is persistent thank god, that was sorely needed
Nolan Lewis
Whoever is in charge of aiming the Bombardment cannon has to be some sort of infiltraitor, only an Ork could be that bad a shot.
James Wright
the homing torpedoes sound overpowered as shit for any mission where the target is immediately revealed to you just bring a lot of ships with them and spam them to death from the get go
Jace Bell
Ooh, which mark of strike cruiser should I pick?
Grayson Roberts
>say glhf >he thinks that means I'm going to let him warp out instead of sucking up that sweet renown
If you weren't typing so much, you probably would have done better.
David Cruz
SM are shit.
Henry Thomas
It makes sense lore-wise but having only 4 favours for your whole fleet is... not a lot?
Owen Jones
"Oi! Chapta Masta! Dem Spikey Gits are Comin' Right at us! Want me to give em the Dakka?"
Owen Butler
These SM light cruisers are incredibly underwhelming. Can I just have my Dauntlesses back?
Aiden Wood
I'm making a new IN admiral just to get a match to compare how Dauntlesses go against SM LCs.
Its basically a refitted Strike Cruiser made for a heavy escort role.
Jace Foster
their ships are expensive though, so you won't field much anyway. also I think you are skipping one ship class and instead get 2 barges
Jacob Sullivan
Thunderhawks seem super powerful to me, I seem to get a critical damage almost every time
Joshua Bailey
yeah, I'm crippling the shit out of my enemies. sadly, it's all temporary damage so I need to attack waves to make it count
Parker Allen
Has anyone cheated the experience or something to see what kind of ship slots do SM have? Ok light cruisers are Vanguards, Cruisers will be Strike Cruisers and Battleship will be Battlebarges What do they have for big cruiser?
>What do they have for big cruiser? nothing according to some guy in the steam forums instead they get two barges who are apparently also useful
Camden Long
they are so much fun the whole map is just circling with torpedoes and the enemy can't go anywhere without being boarded though I have to spend a lot of time on dodging them myself
Jason Hernandez
They are overpowered. >Launch homing torpedoes while enemy ship is behind me >They fly in a large curve and head towards that enemy ship
Jaxson Clark
Orks still as OP as before, I see.
Logan Morris
>Nova Cannons
Samuel Torres
Haha oh wow, Orks lost belt armor in this patch. I think they've officially overtaken IN as the worst faction.
Jacob Bennett
IN actually fuck me up with their mutiny lightning strikes
Ayden Ward
Does all of the 5 chapters have the same ships or are they aesthetically different?
Gabriel Clark
Relevant patch notes, some changes to existing stuff and best feature is being able to preset ship behaviour instead of configuring it each battle.
Features Space Marines DLC is now available! The defenders of mankind are ready. The Elite Mode against AI opponents is now available: Test your might against ever-stronger enemies. A Newsfeed has been added. Be informed of the latest news about BFGA directly in the main menu. You can now preset your ships’ behavior and auto-launches in the Docks. Help and FAQ are now available through main menu and in game menu.
Gameplay Imperial Navy A new upgrade, Imperial Assassin, which can trigger a mutiny with a Lightning Strike Assault Action, has been added to the Deck.
Chaos A new upgrade, Chaos Space Marines, which Reduces the enemy troop value on Boardings and Lightning Strikes, has been added to the Deck.
Ork Pirates A new upgrade, Weirdboy Tower, which adds a Zzap weapon on the Deck, has been added to the Deck. This weapon does not take the Zzap Upgrades, and fires at 3.000 units + 3.000 Units per Point in the Weirdboy Crew Member.
Eldar Corsairs A new upgrade, Harlequin’s Masque, which Improves Troop Value while in Brace for Impact by 5, has been added to the Deck. The bonus can be improved by 5 per point in the Harlequin Crew Member.
Nathan Peterson
Same ships, different colours. Also the shipyard screen looks different.
Jaxon Ortiz
With two simultaneous attack rounds they destroy an ork escort. Come close, deliver the payload, get the fuck out till your shields are online again and your boarding parties and thunderhawks are rearmed. Kinda like Eldar but less bullshitty.
Lincoln Evans
>switch to orkz >literally shit on every space marine I see >encounter the odd other faction >shit on them too because I'm orkz
Camden Watson
>finally afford triple Traktor Kannon on my Ork Cruisers >mfw fighting Chaos now and watching him burn his thrusters as I chain-pull him back and Zzap him to death
One of my ships hit level 8, got 1 last upgrade and 1 crew point. I might try the new Weirdboy tower for a free 6k Zzap gun. Though it doesn't get the upgrade bonusses I have, might still be worth it.
Adrian Peterson
The official forums would have you believe that Ork players are fleeing en-masse due to the faction being shit.
I am firmly convinced that these people are, in fact, not smart enough to play Orks. Which is hilarious.
Brayden Baker
As someone who levelled up Orks after the big Kannon nerfs, the issue is that Orks are awful at low ship/admiral levels. They get kited very easily until you have multiple upgraded Zzaps and lots of Stasis Bombs, among other things.
I think 90% of my upgrades/crew choices have been to help me get to close range.
Kevin King
spam thunder hawks
Pacific Theatre tier spam
Anthony Butler
>tfw had a fleet wipe last match >gonna use my shitty backup fleet and just hope the next match is quick >opponent says fuck orkz and quits
Datz brutally kunnin, makin umies think dey iz gunna lose before dey lose
Lucas Flores
This. Just set them on auto cast and your enemys ship will be on fire and broken everywhere.
Jaxon Morales
>max out squadron sergeants >thunderhawks have a 65% chance to ignore hits >have to be hit twice to be destroyed >every single ship in my fleet vomits out thunderhawks
Wyatt Wilson
First mp match fuckers is loosing, forces crash. No level up
Gavin Peterson
Been a while since I last played. How do you play Ork in the current meta? Zzap on everything? I currently have Heavy Kannonz on everything, swapping everything for Zzap will cost me an arm.
Isaac Clark
Eavy kannonz still work, they just aren't that good against SM from what I've played so far. We don't have AP ammo anymore and they are heavily armored. However, ramming and torps destroy SM scrubs.
Gabriel Lee
You can't afford to have Kannonz or you have no chance to catch Chaos ships.
Kevin Perry
I don't really understand the point of the Thunderhawk Gunship upgrade? Is this an oversight by the devs? Because all Marine ships get Thunderhawks as standard
Lucas Wilson
Taking fucking ages to get a game.
Ryan Mitchell
Just noticed that they removed taunt, how am I supposed to ram people now?
Owen Thompson
Armored Thunderhawk works as a bomber while vanilla works as a boarding craft I think. Also you have to waste another slot for fighter escorting.
Elijah Wood
they're bombers instead of assault boats.
Aiden Sullivan
>every new faction released has a terrible kite
Fighting SM is like Chaos during the beta. Just hiding in clouds waiting for them to get close, but this time everything has armor.
Liam Ramirez
I wish there were some engine speed upgrades, or the navigator crew member would also boost speed by some amount.