House Malbrand

Cool. I've seen some stuff from that before. I'm going to check it out.

So, I had an idea for the words which I posted in the last thread. I'll move them and others' suggestions here to get us thinking.

>So burns our mark
>Old as the barrows
>Ours is the mark
>Long is the memory
>Memory fades. The Mark remains.
>The Mark remains.
>Blazing the path.
>Silver tongued and steely handed (Unofficial? Insulting? Heavy handed if mocking?)

>MARK MY WORDS WELL!

I like Memory fades. The Mark remains.

I second this.

Oaky. I just put up another strawpoll (I recognize I have a problem with these, and I'm getting help.)

strawpoll.me/10551249

I changed yours because I thought that using the first person plural sounded more commanding and proper. Sorry.

Poll's up.

I'll leave that. Probably overnight.

In the meantime, let's talk banners. What do you guys think of ? It probably doesn't fit the house enough. I kind of like the idea of the second one from , but that's only because it actually has symbolism. The goblet in looks pretty cool, but I'm unsure about the cross motif. Crosses aren't really a thing in ASoIaF, are they? I don't know, to be honest.

I second this, though do like the yellow/gold and black motif. Ties in with the Lannisters a bit.

This was done a lot more hastily, but is this what you mean? If it were totally back, it would block out the lines of the eagle, and you wouldn't be able to make it out much.

awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Marbrand

A burning tree might be a heart tree they burned which made House Malbrand starts losing it's power.

So, it looks like our motto is: "Memory fades. The Mark remains."

looks pretty good, and it obeys the law of tinctures to boot! I kind of like the idea of burning a heart tree, but why did we do it?

We didn't that's the thing, House Marbrand did it to fuck us up. That among other things worked.

How many more things do we need to roll?

None, user. We've rolled everything we need to roll. It's just fluff now. Check out the old thread, if you like.

I've just caught myself up and now it seems to be deadish.
Are you planning on running a quest with this house?

Yeah unless you plan to run something I'd consider this dead. If you do plan on running something you'll probably need to guide discussion a bit more, figure out what the History events apply to, when this is set, solidify the main household and actually roll up the Lord of the House.

All of that being said the background for the House seems needlessly edgy and a little over the top for a First Man House. If it was all legends and folktales yeah sure and the new Lord is dabbling at best. But this seems excessive, particularly regarding the Lord marrying a rather prestigious House so easily considering his former status as a maester and just being a general voodoo weirdo. I'd say marrying a lady from Essos sounds more appropriate for the theme of the House and Lord, someone with some arcane roots, like Asshai and helps expand the Lords knowledge and pursuit of arcane knowledge rather than hinder it like a normal Lady of Westeros likely would. Really if you're going to go overboard you might as well go full tilt.

Wasn't a hall plus a tower agreed on?

Couldn't be, we don't have enough Defense to actually do that.

>Mfw I picked the name.

So altogether the thread's got words but no stories, history but no events, and personages but no people.

I guess interest in the House Malbrand just petered off after the easy part of rolling was finished?

Well without anyone really pulling it all together or at the head to push the conversation forward yeah that'll happen. Last thread there was some talk of different historical events but no one commented on them and it fell off.

The fact this isn't going to become anything more than a system exercise isn't helping either.

People get discouraged when they place something up for discussion and it gets ripped apart in favor of something that never actually materializes.

My advice to you user would be to post something, something you love and think is good and make it canon. I assume you have an idea for posting, do please and I will build on it.

MALBRAND OR BUST!

Okay well first lets decide our wifes name. Then we can work on Cameryn's character sheet.
I walk us through that step by step as far as i can before i have to go to dinner with my grandparents tonight.

So Step 1
How old is is Cameryn
our option are
Young Adult (14-18)
Ability pts: 18
Specialty pts: 6
Destiny pts: 5
Max Ability Rank: 5

Adult (19-30)
Ability pts: 21
Specialty pts: 8
Destiny pts: 4
Max Ability Rank: 7

Middle Age (31-50)
Ability pts: 24
Specialty pts: 10
Destiny pts: 3
Max Ability Rank: 6

Old (51-70)
Ability pts: 27
Specialty pts: 16
Destiny pts: 2
Max Ability Rank: 5

Adult seems accurate.
I didn't save the picture that was posted in the old thread, but he looked early 20's. Mid 20's max

Adult is my vote.

Lailana for the wife's name?

I quite like the Welsh/Celtic influence on females names, they just sound beautiful. Ones that are a hybrid of a name somewhat in modernish useage and a throwback to older times.

Carwen, means white/blessed love.

Eryn, variation of the name Erin.

Liliwen, means white lily.

For his age, he is the second brother so any age would be welcome, ADULT, would be the most welcome. And for the record Banefort is a hilariously bad name.

That works, but I did hear Natasha Banefort from the old thread. I do agree with user though, Bitch from Essos would seem to work better with the themes as they are

Found it

Okay I'll put him down as an adult and being 22

Next up is his role, as option we have.
>Leader
>Stannis Baratheon is an example
>The leader commands and guides other toward some objevtive
>Key abilities are Cunning, Endurance, Persuasion, Status, and Warfare
>Rogue
>Examples are Davos, Meera and Tyrion
>Rogues diversify their skill set and strive to be comfortable both in an aritocrated setting as well as with the small folk
>Key ability are Agility, Awareness, Cunning, Fighting, Marksmanship, Persuassion, Stealth, Thievery
>Schemer
>Cersei, Varys and Petyr Baelish are examples
>Masters of intritugue they are as dangerous in the halls of men as a knight is on a battlefield
>Key abilities: Awareness, Cunning, Deception, Knowledge, Language, Persusion, Status and Will
>Warrior
>Examples are Jamie lannister or Victarion grey joy
>They fight and are good at it, the can bash ur head in cunt
>Specialist
>Syrop Forei, Jojen Reed and The tickler are some examples
>An expert specilises, they are normal healers, blacksmiths, kennelmaster or scholars
>Key abilities are whatever there specialties are

I'd say schemer, if we make him a few years older, 25-26, we could incorperate a little more of his Maester background, his cunning use of his mind and aquired knowledge. I'm unsure if/when the Maesters foreswear any allegiance to House and Hearth though.

Schemer or rogue seem most appropriate.

I think Rogue or Specialist would fit, given that Lord Malbrand spent some time studying at the Citadel, and not exactly whetting his teeth on politics

they do that when they have enough links to make a chain

Camryn only has two or three links, before he was called back to be Lord Malbrand

Specialist seems to fit the best. He's not as much of a warrior/rogue, was thrust into leadership, and his pursuit of knowledge fits alongside that. Schemer and Expert all also viable.

Also, 22 is a bit young in my opinion. We haven't established where his father and brother died. Guessing either Robert's Rebellion or the Reyne-Tarbeck Rebellion. But either way, he would have had to have gone to the Citadel at age 15-18, had enough time to forge three links, maybe 3 years(?), come home a year or so after the conflict that killed his family. Another year of getting married/shit sorted and then maybe another for the the twins(?). On the lower end of things I suppose he could be 22, but it would make a bit more sense to me if he was a bit older, even if by a couple years.

I am not sure either, but Arallesa forged 3 links in a year and is still a novice so we could have done somthing similar. And oberyn forged 6 and than left for essos

Another option is to have him be a Specialist in the blood magic realm, or more realistically religion/ritual as a means of magic

strawpoll.me/10558121
Shitty straw poll becuase all of these three things tied

Guess we could figure out what links he was able to forge of his chain then. Here is a list of all popular known ones, should we say he has 4-7 links not enough to make a chain but bracelet that he wears instead?

Black iron (ravenry)
Brass
Bronze (astronomy)
Copper (history)
Electrum (astrology)
Yellow Gold (economics)
Iron (warcraft)
Lead
Pale steel (smithing)
Pewter
Platinum
Red gold
Silver (medicine and healing)
Steel
Tin
Valyrian steel (magic and the occult) - Only one in one hundred holds a link of Valyrian steel; the study of magic is looked down upon by most maesters

I thought we decided on
>Yellow gold
>Copper
>Valyrian steel
As his three, I like the idea of him having a fourth and wearing it as bracelet though

If we have, my bad. I didn't see that. Perhaps the 4th is simply a bit of twine that he uses to fashion a bracelet with and that the subject he was studying is purposefully kept hidden by him? Not yet earned the link, but was surely going to earn it within the year.

Yellow Gold, Copper, and Valyrian Steel were the common picks from the last thread. Which makes sense. A fourth wouldn't be a bad idea, maybe electrum for astrology, because blood moons and alignment of planets ooo spooky, etc.

Okay guys I got to go
You have 21 points to put into your skill (all of which start at a base of 2)

Also I think our 4th link should be Black Iron. if we hung our with marwyn than we might be conspiratorial of the maesters fucking with what is said in raven's letters

Well knowledge needs to be at least a 5

With +20 specalities in each of his linked skills.

Awareness 3
Cunning 4
Deception 3
Fighting 3
Knowledge 5
Language 3 (Common)
Persuasion 3
Status 4
Will 3

We have 8 more points

maybe bump up warfare, marksmanship, athletics, endurance? he is still a noble son

and maybe he picked up healing sometime in his time at the citadel

I'm unfamiliar with the system, is 2 average or untrained?

strawpoll.me/10558636
Important poll
'yes 2 is untrained

What? That's not how that works, you have 210 experience at Adult rank and spend it to rank up your abilities. 10 to rank 3, 40 to rank 4, and 70 to rank 5, etc.

We get 80 points to spend in specialities at 10 per level.

well 3 of them are a given
>history
>Magic and the occult
>Economics

How many points are we given to each? Saying as how we earned a link in each, I suggest the same as the other user and go with 20.

so what are some canonical character numbers? what's Baelish's scheming? Cersei's? what's Stannis' will? Sam Tarly's? what's Bran's agility?

Bran's agility is - 1, Hodor's cunning or language (I think?) is 1. The reason they do not have 0 is because they can still express feelings and Bran can indeed move despite his disability.

The highest is 7, so I think some one Barristan selmy would have 7 in fighting. Becuase he is a master at his craft
Bronn would probably have 6 becuase he is really go but he admits that there are people who could best him
Meera would have 5 highly trained and skilled but with little expiernce
Jon at the begining of the story would have had a 3, some training but not really a master
2 would Tywin, not skilled, but he doesn't lack handicaps
1 would be jamie post hand chopping

>1 would be jamie post hand chopping
Bullshit, even after that he can still beat quite a few people.

And Tywin officially has a 4, he's probably trained a good deal of his life.

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>baelish
>status 7
wat

Master of Coins, man.

this system makes no sense to me

the highest is 7 but a Lord Paramount has 8 and a Master of Coin (who's Lord of Buttfuck Nowhere) has 7, the same as the Queen

To be fair if anyone should have a broken amount of status it's tywin
As well there are modifers that make it 8, his base it probably lower

It isn't really consistent throughout. And the canon characters limit break the typical Experience pool and Benefits limit. This is probably the best example of where everyone fits properly. The statblocks above are from the Campaign Guide, which isn't that great really.

ah, okay, it makes sense if Status works differently from everything else, but in that case it should stay a bit separate and not just be lumped in with all the other things

Lets go ahead and increase our marksmanship and Fightin a bit if we can.

How does this whole increasing of stats work exactly?

I agree with this user

The problem with Status is it's an active ability alongside all the others, costing experience and everything. Most of the Veeky Forums Houses, as far as I'm aware, have the houserule of Status being a completely separate thing not costing any experience and in the case of Malroy being rewarded as the House advances. The system does a lot of good stuff on a broad scale but the minute gets kind of stupid and their ridiculous lack of consistency throughout their range of books doesn't help.

All member of the Small Council have 7 Status. And I believe most of these characters have already gone through several campaigns and have gained experience. They're high-level NPCs for christ's sake.

I'd like a higher will and awareness as well.

This user is right, the other guy is wrong.

Next we have Specialty points. This is choosing an ability that our character is good at and giving him specialties in it.
an example would be
>Knowledge
>Occult/magic
>+2BD
Each rank of BD requires 10 specialty points and you have 80

>history
>Magic and the occult
>Economics

20 in each of these if we are going to have lore and crunch connected in any meaningful manner.

How about the last one is put into cunning?

Makes sense, I like it.

So what school of cunning do you want it to be?

Aww, I thought you were house ruling, and got excited.

Logic.

what are the options?

Any speciality for example Politics?

Decipher, Logic, and Memory.

I like you, user.

I want to let you guys know that I haven't given up on you, but this guy knows what he's doing better than I do. If anyone has any questions about fluff or something like that, feel free to ask me. I'd be glad to give my input.

For remembering spooky shit?

Logic would be best

I say put 1B in Logic and 1B in Long Blades or something, just so we aren't a total shitter in combat.

I can get behind this, though I'd prefer Memory

It seems like it would fit an okay student better than logic

...

Thanks.

Yeah, long blades are cool. Of course, we'll have a master-at-arms or a sellsword character in our service, right? Obviously Camryn can't do everything by himself.

Most likely, it would be a sorry house that did not, especially with our large military. Maybe he's a member of our Veteran Guard.

You can purchase a Master at Arms from the OOSP supplement. And we could easily pick up the Cohort Quality and build a badass sellsword/bodyguard type to protect our less than stellar Lord.

I'll need to take a trip to KAT to grab those. Brb.

Oh, and here's the sheet that I had for the household stats and holdings, if anyone wants it. It's editable by anyone with the link, so feel free to change it as we go along.

docs.google.com/document/d/1fzrfEPJPwMdOI4cNsK6r6DFKHM1puS6xtNnE619wcn4/edit?usp=sharing

I really don't, I am googling as we are working

Okay now what we have left is benefits, flaws and the like. next post I will post our options and such for those

Okay we have 3 pictures of benefits for you guys to choose. you have 4 points to spend, but these points are also hero points for the game itself (if a game is happening with this character)
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