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I bet you're the user that started the shit modern general a few days ago with the le homemade cards meme in the op.

Nah. Fan-made cards and counterfeits should not be in this thread at all. Truly the cancer of Modern General.

And last thread, the "fixed" one, was also bad. Don't use card artwork for OPs, for fuck's sake.

Why isn't BUG Delver a thing in Modern ?

It's fast, It has efficient creatures, it has disruption, it has counters, it has card draw, it has (a lot) of removal... What's not to like ?

More importantly, it's a thing in Legacy and 75% of the cards in it are Modern legal with easy replacements for the others.

So what prevents BUG Delver to be good in Modern ?

Delver isn't that great in Modern. And Lightning Bolt is one hell of a card in Modern compared to Legacy, which makes Temur Delver and Grixis Delver better options.

You should test it before asking.

>Testing

I don't plan on downloading Xmage just for that, besides, I'm asking purely out of curiosity, I'm hapy playing my Merfolk.

Disfigure hits most of the relevant creatures that Bolt hits and running Black gives access to Abrupt Decay and disruption that Temur can't have. Also gives access to a couple of Tasigur which are always nice.

Grixis is more like the aggro version of Delver where BUG should be the midrang-y one, but no-one plays BUG in Modern.

I think he should use some of the prominent standard cards that could see play in modern instead. Aside from the ones that already do of course.

The big problem is Delver variants just aren't good enough. It's not because Delver itself is bad, but without support from deck manipulation (Brainstorm, Ponder, Top) you have a really bad card. Couple that with deck building restrictions (about 15 or so creatures max, 18 or 19 lands to maximize spell density) and the metagame (every deck runs anywhere between 3 and like, 10 pieces of removal) and youre just not good enough to compete.

Now a BUG midrange deck might be able to work, but there's no way it could run delvers effectively.

I fail to think of a card that rewards you for being in UG. BR gives you k-command, WB gives you Lingering Souls. There's nothing in modern right now that really pushes the UG color combination. Legacy BUG is a thing solely because of one card. Shardless Agent. If he was legal in modern then yea, BUG and even RUG would be a thing in modern. However, that's never gonna happen with Ancestral Visions in the format.

Ignorant scrub here.

What the fuck is the infect deck? Is it just "cheat out blightsteel colossus in some way and swing for OHKO" or are you actually playing a bunch of creatures with infect and swinging to gradually kill with poison?

It's the latter. However, you also play a lot of pump spells to get to 10 poison counters super quickly, so it's not a going wide, wears you down stradegy. You play a select few of the best infect creatures, quality over quanity.

You play small creatures and a bunch of pump spells and protect your creatures with counter magic or protection spells. It's actually pretty fun to play.

Well, here I am hoping for Wizard to print a good low cost card in Simic colors to make UG decks relevant again.

>gradually kill

More like quickly kill. A perfect hand in UG infect wins on turn 2

But that just lures scrubs who opened these cards in booster packs and want to know how to play it.

Grixis is the midrange version. Rug is the aggro variant.

I play rug delver and while it does have bad matchups it's a decent deck. It's top 8'd several times and even won once or twice.

It's hell of a lot of fun to play. Super aggravating when delver just won't flip though. So many games I could have closed earlier if the fucker just bugged it up

>Playing?
a very meta-tuned skred red
>Brewing?
I was working on a jank triskaidecaphobia build, but it was really, really bad
>Favorite deck?
Skred. Favorite "real" deck? UWR control
>Your local Meta?
Good match ups: UWR control, Grixis control, Jund, affinity
Bad match ups: Tron, Boggles, Merfolk
Oh shit nigger what are you doing: Mono Red Devotion
>Next MTG Purchase?
Commander cards probably. But for modern I need spellskites and ensnaring bridges

I hate playing against merfolk with skred. On paper it looks like a matchup we should win but they always get out of hand and I rarely knock them back down

I want to make a UG deck that abuses the shit out of Hexproof and Unblockable creatures. Have the card pool (probably some bad cards in it, but wanted to group
everything)
I know Blighted Agent and Might of old Krosa are a must, no idea about the rest.

Just make boggles or infect. Don't mash them together

Seems like you either want to play Boggles or Infect

I don't know your list but cards like boil and anger of the gods could do some serious work against merfolk. On a side note I too hate playing against merfolk. It's so janky, but occasionally when it works it's ridiculous.

Just play Infect. The deck is hella fun.

It would have to be a pretty good freaking card. Like, a cycle of enemy colored commands. I just want to play a grindy deck full of resource denial and tempo that isn't Jund.

We'll wait together.

If you want to play with Blighted Agent in a UG shell then its best to do Infect and forget about creatures that already have hexproof.

If you want to play with Hexproof creatures then build Bogles, which runs a few hexproof creatures with a ton of enchantment auras in a GW shell.

Does anyone else hate modal cards that let you pick multiple options?

They're too flexible and seem lazy to me, design wise

My buddy plays skred. I've played against it so much I gotta pretty good idea of what works and what does not. What's your list like?

>too flexible
That's literally the point of them. Also, why exactly is it lazy?

>playing
NA
>brewing
NA
>Favorite deck
fuck magic
>your local meta
Drooling tards and netdecks
>next mtg purchase
fuck magic.

sold my 500$ collection for 150$ this friday.
"your getting majorly screwed selling your thoughtsieze set for XX"
"not really if i'm never going to play again..."

so fucking done with cardboard dragons, never again.

Play burn and you'll realize just how dank Atarkas Command can be. For example you could pump your Swiftspears and trigger prowess. Or swing with a creature, deal 3 damage, play an additional land, and bolt your opponent. Or you could just stop them from gaining life. Those cards are dank as fuck

it's been around for a long time, but twin was also around for a long time etc

its also not HUGE right now because jund is really good but its still good enough that you can slide past some MUs in tournaments

if they were to ban a card with the intention of killing the deck it would be cranial plating, if they wanted to make it significantly worse but still viable(? yeah probably not) they would hit mox opal

Lmao you're bitter as fuck. But here's a (You)

Sounds like you've had some salty experiences user? Tell us of your woes? Did you get stomped at your first FNM?
Also only $500 collection? Sounds like you barely got into the game before giving up.

Those cards are fucking busted. RG for so much value that is useful in all situations? That's fucked up

That's not busted user. The word you're looking for is dank

salty sure, but at least i don't own any fucking cardboard dragons anymore like some sort of autist.

Gave up when i realized any deck worth building needs cards that are minimum 30$ a piece and as much as 100-125$ a piece.

When I need to pay 400 for a playset of lili's and well over 500$ for a set of goyfs, before things like land bases and spellskites i say fuck that shit.
Not to mention foils and promo prices that are infinitely more expensive.

then in modern you are expected to win by turn 3-5 or your deck is complete trash? fuck that.

fuck this shitty game.

>a cycle of enemy colored commands

Please stop user, I know they will never print those and it makes me too sad.

Maybe you shoulda started off with some other deck before having an emotional breakdown about cardboard dragons on a Korean image board

Try chinaman. You'll cut your deck price by about 70% percent.

Grow up you fucking baby.
I'd rather keep cardboard dragons then whine on the Internet about a hobby that clearly isn't for me.
You sound like a real joy to hang out with you fucking sperg

For those who are playing for a while; Is there a certain color you have avoided and deny to play until now (for a certain reason)?

I took me 10 years to touch a black themed deck. Never thought it would be so much fun to fuck up your life points/hand/deck/creatures for ULTIMATE POWER.

I've always found white to be boring. Dat sideboard though

>calls me sperg
>owns cardboard fucking dragons

fucking topkek.

I don't even know what to say to you my man,
I can't even make this shit up.

so you actually never owned any cards and are just here to shitpost, got it

So, you played a casual deck at a modern FNM, probably thinking that you would win easily, and lost to people playing the good decks whom were likely better regardless because they have more experience with the game?

This is the problem with people bragging about their bad meme decks, it makes new players think they can win with their casual decks.

Also, for a more serious answer, there are plenty of decks that are playable in modern that are very budget.

Not him but that's not really true. Not on paper at least. Maybe on MTGO because people tend to experiment more and play worse online but any LGS meta would crush budget decks even at FNM level.

I no longer own cards because i sold them all.

Whatever you say.

So let's take the thread back.

>How did you get your start in Magic?
When I was a little kid I bought a few packs here and there cause the art looked cool. Ended up throwing them all out. Got into the game again around Theros block for real. My first deck was standard minotaurs, a few kitchen table decks, and eventually once I pulled and sold a few quality cards I made my first modern deck and have been playing competative ever since.

Sadly I have to agree. Not gonna happen in EMN, not likely to happen in Kaladesh and AER... So maybe next year ? At best.

I was that way for the longest time with blue. It wasn't until I played the new Eldrazi and made a BU ingest/process deck themed around Ulamog. I love that deck.

>OP
I'm thinking about getting some path of exiles for my BW shitbrew deck. Idk if the targetted removal is needed in the deck I'm running though.

I found a deck at my lgs while playing tabletop. I just took it. Tron may be boring but it was free

Found a few guys playing MTG and I asked about it, then slowly got into it.

Now playing casual because I'm too broke for literally anything.

My father bought me the 1998 World Championship promo deck. GB became my favorite colors for a long time, just because reanimating Spike creatures with Recurring Nightmare was so kick ass. Still have those cards, too.

You are a bad man!

You seem to be playing colours that aren't red. I'm sure this is a mistake, I'll just help you with that.

Are alters legal? I wouldn't mind getting something done but not if it makes them unplayable in sanctioned tournaments

There was a small club where we played D&D and MtG and similar stuff, I used to go to. The guy who ran it had ton of the theme/event decks that he had spiced up with cards from booster packs. It was the perfect place to learn the game in a casual environment. I think it was around the time Lorwyn was released because I remember getting an elemenal theme deck when I started.

It's ok, I'm not using any color anyway.

Altered art is fine, but there's 3 things that must still be visible, those being 1) the card name, 2) the card's mana cost, and 3) the card's P/T if it's a creature.

Stompy is a solid tier 2 deck that can be built for less than 50 bucks and is really good against several tier 1 decks.

>Playing?
U?B controll
>Brewing?
izzit midrange controll
>Favorite deck?
bogles
>Your local Meta?
grixis, ONLY FUCKING GRIXIS
>Next MTG Purchase?
spellskite

you should splash red for lightning bolt and kommand in UB control

>every player who doesn't want to spend a gorillion dollars has to play the same boring deck

The game costs money. Get over it.
Do you go into warhammer threads and bitch that you have to pay for the figurines too?

im swaping all the b for r

>sold my 500$ collection
Big deal. I have over 40 cards worth $500 or more.

My friend and I are going to the Eldritch Moon pre-release, and since we don't really have a local game store we figured we'd go to Friday Night Magic as well. They are doing a Two Headed Giants Modern that night, something my friend and I never play.

Any deck building tips or anything? Or even just some good archetypes that work well together and are easy to build? I don't need to sweep all the games and dominate, but some wins would be nice.

How do I meet a cute guy[/spoiler} to play magic with?
i thought i found one but it turns out he already has a boyfriend

That's the problem, cute ones are taken more often than not. Unless they are some kind of crazy...

what if i am a cute one and i just want to find a nice one?

Two headed modern? That sounds like a blast.

So, normally, one person plays control, the other plays aggro, but the more I think about it, the more I think double Burn (you each only need to count to 15) or double Infect would be pretty hard to beat.

Burn+Affinity would work well together. Jund would be less good, probably, but might turn out to be a fine choice, regardless of what your partner is playing.

I'd stay away from Tron or Jeskai Nahiri.

but then you don't get tasigur, terminate, or kommand

ad nauseum + counterspells.dec

have you tried straight up walking to them as go like "Nice sleeves, wanna make out?"

Fuck off, there are plenty of cheep decks that are viable in modern

Soul Sisters (Also called Martyr Life if you're a faggot) is a very cheep deck. It only gets expnsive if you run Serra Ascendant or Flagstones of Trokair.

RG Stone Rain doesn't even cost $100 if you aren't running Fetches and shocks. (its about $250 with them)

U-Tron only runs 5 cards that cost more than $10 (Academy Ruins - $25, Oboro Palace in the Clouds - $20, Oblivion Stone - $28, and two Wurmcoil Engines -$17 each) Oboro is completely optional and only exists to dodge Choke and occasionally filter colourless mana into blue mana. O-Stone? Cyclonic Rift is an acceptable alternative. Wurmcoils can also be swapped out for other options but its better if you don't. ($34 isn't a lot anyways come on goy.)

Taking turns is cheep-ish, The time warp cards all cost about $10 each, and that makes up the majority of the deck's cost. Only other expensive card in the deck is Cryptic Command and you can trade that for Sleep (Cryptic is better though) Soe people will tell you to play Ancestral Visions, but you don't really need to.

Burn and Mono Green Elves cost between $500 and $600 Depends on how many fetch you play. (Yes these count as budget. Food banks exist, even a wageslave like me can afford these after a couple of weeks despite living in fucking canada where a dollar is only worth 70 cents.)

Magic costs money to play, how fucking awful I know, but its not like every deck requires a playset of Lillys and Goyfs

>Soul Sisters
Last week I lost to RG Tron with Bant Eldrazi, but I found solace in the Tron player losing to Soul Sisters. I thought that matchup was unwinnable for Soul Sisters.

Molten Vortex and Life from the Loam are a powerful and fairly cheap combo. I play it in a smallpox deck that's a bit expensive, but a person could play it in a red green deck with some walls and burn spells for cheap.

If you make a cute trap Chandra then I'm game.

I can't justify buying 4 Path to Exiles for casual/fnm level play, are there any similar cards I can get which have a similar effect?

Maybe try pascify? I mean it's pretty shit but there's a reason Paths are that expensive.

Just do it. There's not any modern legal replacement. It's not like they're super expensive.

Paths are only like ten bucks each. That's cheap as fuck. Just put it on a credit card. Or just don't play magic if you're not willing to buy good cards. Call us when you're buying cards for 50+ a piece

Dispatch is a strictly better Path if you have 3 or more artifacts out.

I like the game, but not everyone is as willing to drop 40 bucks on a few pieces of cardboard to win. Especially since I'm not doing anything above casual play, what's the point of dropping my money on something I'll use only for friendly games?

Then why bother posting here in the first place? If you're not willing to spend a little money on a hobby, maybe you should rethink your choice of activities.

40$ is less than half a day's work, and you can find them cheaper than that, too.

what happens if they get mad
ill try it next fnm

I do spend money on hobbies; other ones, at that.

MTG isn't my only hobby. I put lots of money into other shit as well. Since MTG is not one of my primary hobbies, I don't feel like putting much money into it is worth it.

Since I play mostly with friends or at local events, I see little reason to spend more than I have to on cards. You might be thinking >poorfag but I just don't feel content with buying cardboard that I won't use very often.

I think MTG is a fun game, and I like to play it, but you'd be surprised to hear that not everyone wishes to spend an autistic amount of money making tournament-tier decks.

>40$ is less than half a day's work, and you can find them cheaper than that, too.
And food is a daily expense, and rent/loan/mortgage on a house is not fucking cheap at all. Unless you have a very fucking cushy job in a place with very little rent you don't have the money to pay for 40 bucks worth of cardboard. I was into MTG and the amount of rich fucks or people who still live with their parents was astoundingly high.

Look, I'm not saying you're poor, or whatever, but you ask in a thread dedicated to competitive modern discussion and ask for advice. Pte is pretty cheap for a staple card and outclasses almost everything you can compare it to. If you don't want to shell out a little cash, fine, don't get them and find a replacement.