What Kind of Jedi?

Alright Veeky Forums, you've just been retconned out of this life and forceably crammed into the Star Wars universe.

Now a few things are certainly about to happen to you. You are going to be born/hatched/spawned with a reasonably high force sensitivity. Not Anakin or Yoda high, but lets assume you''re pretty naturally in tune with that old mystical energy force.

The second and third thing that will happen is that the Jedi will find you, and that your deadbeat parents will give you up. You are now a member of the Jedi Order. Your dressing gown, spaceship and membership card are in the mail.

My question is this: Do you make a good Jedi, you personally, you don't have your memories but you have your exact personality, your exact character. You are still you. So how do you do?

Fall to the Darkside? Drop out? Be a hero? Keep your head down? Work in the library? Whatever. Just be honest.

Feel free to select whatever time period you want to, Old Republic, Clone Wars, New Rebublic, New EU, Old EU, whatever. Any time we've heard about.

Tell me your stories, Veeky Forums.

I think I'd do pretty okay, unless I found myself in one of the "no fun allowed" eras (so as long as its not the prequels or bioware bullshit), and even in those I can just run off to Corellia, trade my brown robes for green, and be chill.
Either way, I figure I'd do a lot of wandering.
NJO era, I'd go looking for caches of lost knowledge, and finding those with potential and directing them towards the Praxeum.
TotJ, do what all the Jedi did back then, be basically a knight errant, traveling the galaxy and righting wrongs.

Personally I think I'd do alright, not great, but alright.

I'll get dumped in the Clone Wars era, just because I don't want to get accidentally eaten by Nihilus in the Old Republic Era.

Have a personal history with martial arts so I know how I handle that kind of discipline. Knowing how I handled Tae Kwon Do and Judo, I'd probably get a bit sick of running drills and patterns and forms when I had to do them too long and be far more eager to get down to sparring. Probably end up being better at saber to saber combat than not as a result, that and good old hand to hand. Style would be less routine as a result, less polished but harder to predict.

On the force side of things I'd love it, who wouldn't love magical powers? That said I'm a pretty practical guy so I'd probably focus on skills that I could use practically. Telekinesis, physical enchancements, sneaky sneaky, animal empathy, and basic mind-tricks. Probably wouldn't practice much else. Not out of disinterest but just because Telekinesis is cool as fuck.

Personality wise I'd butt heads with the council, I've never been that good at following orders and they, barring Yoda and Obi Wan, seem kind of out of touch. Probably be a lot like Qui Gon, flying off to see and do cool shit (got the wander lust in me, hate sitting still, if I had a space ship I'd never stop) and getting told off for it later.

Honestly think I'd resign during the Clone Wars, probably late in the game, but wars over nothing don't sit well with me. I'd probably doddle off to go try a way to cut off the head of the snake all underground like, so either I find Sidious and get killed before Order 66, or I don't and Order 66 happens, all of my buddies die and I have to go into hiding.

Assuming the later I'd like to think I'd have made a lot of friends and contacts over my adventures and would lay low with them until the heat's off, maybe in Kashyyyk's darklands. Put those "make friends with animals" powers to good use.

After that probably go back to wandering, maybe bounty hunt on the side. Keep my saber hidden except for emergencies and switch to a staff and some blasters of something. Help the Rebellion on the DL without putting myself into the limelight.

Maybe settle down, have some kids, just chill out when the wander lust fades. Somewhere chill and out of the way, maybe I could get a pipe.

Grey Jedi/10

I'd do alright, I wouldn't change the galaxy or anything, but I'd like to think I'd look out for the little guy and make it a better place in some way.

I'm going to go with Prequel era Jedi Order based on what you've said Op, the recruitment method you mention was more appropriate to that era than any other from what i remember.

I have no problems with authority, or with taking orders. I'm pretty patriotic, and i'm religious. If i replace my church with the Order, and my country with the Republic, it think it's safe to say i would have no problems going along with the council, and i would be quite willing to support the Republic. I can't say that i would have a problem with the Clone Wars, sure there might be some things i would be unhappy with, but i would probably be willing to support the war effort assuming i was in that era.

The biggest problems would be my temper and my sex drive. Assuming i had my exact personality i would want love and companion ship. I would probably feel bad about it, but i would seek it out, either with other members of the order, or someone outside of it. I'm not perfect, even knowing the Orders edicts against romance i don't think i'm strong enough to follow them. Is this enough to lead me to the dark side? I don't know, i don't think so, but opinions vary.

As for my temper, it's not like i wig out over nothing, i don't have a short fuse anymore like i did when i was a kid, but when i do get angry i get angry. As shitty as that scene was, i'm thinking of Anikan killing the sand people. Now i'm not saying it would have to be my mother or anything, but if i found someone abused to death i would loose my shit. As a Jedi i would have the power to hand out Frontier justice, and i just can't see myself not doing so. I could fall to the dark side that way, but i wouldn't fall after seeking power or any of that jazz, it would take the right set of circumstances.

In all likely hood i'm an otherwise unspectacular middle of the pack Jedi who either goes off the rails on an assignment to the boonies where he sees something horrific, or i die during 66.

Given that I am aiming towards library/archival work here in real life I'll probably head the same direction here. As long as it's Old Republic time line and there is the infrastructure still in place to support the position.

The addition of the magical powers and the advantage it brings would probably drag me out of the dusty tomes and ancient holocrons as a younger Jedi and I would explore and collect more information and artifacts. Then I would probably just spend time winding down in my old age sharing information with youngling and master alike.

OP here, nice dude. Paladin on the edge kind of thing, reminded me a little of Miles Hundredlives from Alloys of Law if you've read it. Frontier justice is the start of a slippery slope.

On the love frontier I think it depends on how you handle relationships.
Like I said I'd definitely try to have a family if I was a Jedi, screw the council, but I prescribe to the Jolee Bindo school of thinking "love saves you, it doesn't damn you". So I don't think my sex drive or wanting a family would drive me to the DS.

Like Bindo says, it's things like jealousy, rage, and fear that come from relationships that can fuck you up. So if you're a bit like Anakin personality wise you might be at risk from a tumble from grace, if not though you'll probably be alright.

Sounds good man, good era for that sort of Jedi too.

I'd break the no attachments rule. If Corellian Jedi are a thing, quickly I go green.
I'd be pretty shit at the "only the greater good matters" stuff. I'd definitely have a large bias towards my friends.
I might have some dark side moments, but on the whole I'd stay above water.
But, aside from that, I'd do okay in most eras.
Ideally I'd be in the old republic era a la dark horse comics.

As for adventures, maybe I'd be a Jedi cop in some backwater region, or a Jedi researcher of some sort.

Oh yea I totally fucking fall to the dark side, there is no way I am mentally healthy enough to deal with anything in that situation. Probably drop out and end up being some wannabe sith's apprentice

Based on what I am like now, I would like to think myself as a Grey Jedi. Refuting the monastic life they picked for me, probably would of followed Dooku in his protest of the Republic Government.

Stick with the CIS and fight for the forces of self determination. Break all the attentment rules and live, love and laugh.

Always loved the curved sabre too, so Malakashi would be my chosen style.

Light side for life, dog.

Personally i don't think of myself as being like Anikin, i just brought up the sand people bit because i felt it was a good reference that was relevant to the topic and would illustrate the point i was trying to make.

I also personally see love as a positive thing, and like i said i really don't see love itself driving me to the dark side. Now if something happened to her, well then we go back to my temper, and what i said earlier. So i can kind of see where they are coming from, saying love and attachment can lead to the dark side, cause if i had a significant other and someone hurt or killed them, i'd make them suffer for it, which is a pretty dark thing to say. There's nothing noble about revenge, not really, but i'd do it.

I don't really do Jealousy, but Fear i may do. If i have reason to believe something will happen to someone i care about i will worry about them. There is a point where you can take it too far, but i think worry and a bit of fear is a pretty unavoidable response if there is a threat to your loved ones.

I suppose the real question is how much does it take to fall. I mean had Anikin already fallen when he killed the sand people? i don't think so, sure he was falling, but i don't think he was gone off the deep end by any means. What constitutes a fall? Is it really a single event or a slow subversive process? Can it be caught? Reversed? i think so, i don't really buy a fall from grace as a single event, i think it takes time and a series of events.

I have read Alloy of Law actually.

I become a Jedi archivist, work as little as possible and shitpost on the holonet all day.

Pretty similar to me then, grey peas in a Jedi pod.
Well, that's very honest of you. Well done, user. You passed the test. You may turn into a despotic super-powered warlord, but at least you'll be up front about it.
Fair dude, you, me and Correllian user seem on similar sort of pages. I mean, I wouldn't join the CIS but saber to saber combat spec means Makashi is up there. And curved sabers are pretty beast. I lament that the three of us will never gripe about Jedi restrictions before hitting up all the best bars in 1313 a few years before we all run off to be renegades, and PI's, and Bounty Hunters, and Adventurers and shit whilst the Order burned. What could have been, eh.
Yeah I think it's a slippery slope, but fair dues mate. You do you, I've had a pretty tight grip on my temper for years so I don't think I'd fall personally. But I've never been in a situation where someone murdered my Mum, that said after a burst of murderous rage, and a lot of bodies I don't think I'd have trouble letting the anger go. If I'd gotten revenge and/or brought them to justice I think I could move on and not let the bad shit build up to force a Fall.

I'm the sort of fucker who likes to underline shit then move past it, I'm not a dweller.

Good book though, eh? Do you agree with my Miles comparison?

No idea how I would be. My personallity went different ways due to a series of circumstances.
Generally follow rules, think a little more outside the box, fascinated with the specifics and fiddling with things. Kind of minor obsessive.

My knacks would probably be either defensive style saber combat or super aggresive, since any and all sword fighting ive done has shown im good at defense, and fairly ok at being intimidating with offense. Would probably end up focusing on the force a fair bit, exploring different philosphies and ideas.

Wanderer but super prepared as much as possible, yet otherwise lax attitude. Quiet and slow to warm up to people.

>Stick with the CIS

Grey Jedi user. There's no reason before the Clone Wars breaks out we can't' debate the extent of the Republic should control free trade or the draconian measures the High Council imposes on us.

They idea that I am to reject the delicous taste of finely cooked meal, the touch of a loved woman is barbaric. To quote somebody I found in the Archvies, it is tantamount to creating us sick and commanding us to be well.

JOLEE BINDO DID NOTHING WRONG

But do I get to rape Kylo Ren?

No.
Hes so edjy he kills himself using the next death star weapon to be built in an act of special snowflake repention and self sacrafice, making him into a galactic hero.
You just get to witness him.

I'm not sure really. I have lots of little issues that make being a good person while having emotion-powered superpowers on tap a bit of a precarious situation.

Trending towards isolation while being non-functional without companionship probably makes me very dependent on my master-padowan relationship. Attachment too strong or just non-existent.

Lots of self-loathing mixed with some very high-minded ideals is probably a bad thing to add Force to. The overbearing arrogance doesn't help so I probably fail some trials at least once.

Probably take up sabre for purely for the purposes of self-improvement with no real thought of ever having to use it.

I end up being a lonely, miserable recluse that gets pulled onto an investigation every few mounths by people who care about me not self-destructing.

I'm an odd case case of being too weak to be brilliant but too kind to fall. I take solace in being occasionally useful and apparently being liked enough not to be abandoned.

I shitpost on the whatevernet.

Considering the extent I agree with /pol/ I would probably be a Grey due to me having an exceptional hold on my temper, and the fact that I constantly question authority. I wouldn't deal with the Order, or the debauchery of the Sith, and will probably just leave, flee to the outer rim, and re invent myself to a powerful political figure with mob ties and some pull in other, more formal political circles.

I'd become a Sith.

Fuck this Jedi noise.

Carve myself a place in the galaxy, build a Ratataki army, then continue to carve out a place in the galaxy for myself.

Then die at the hands of my Apprentice, happy knowing that the work will continue.

>Leaves Order
>Joins Pirates
>Brutally murdered for buttons on his robes.

>edgy
When will this meme fucking die

>You are going to be born/hatched/spawned with a reasonably high force sensitivity.
I assumed I got to pick my species.

When it stops being relevant.

To be fair, Kylo fits it to a T.

>The second and third thing that will happen is that the Jedi will find you, and that your deadbeat parents will give you up. You are now a member of the Jedi Order. Your dressing gown, spaceship and membership card are in the mail.

Jedi get you first.

Then I leave as soon as possible.

Jedi suck and are the actually bad guys of Star Wars. The Sith will find me eventually. Or I'll just fuck around the galaxy via Black Sun or Syndicate.

I'll drink to that.

If the original trilogy came out today, you'd say Vader was edgy.

>Murdered
The Jedi and the Sith are just different ends of a horseshoe. They both rob you of free agency, one preaches the emotional numbness is desired and the other a numbness from endulgence. Both should be spurned and resisted.

Indeed Brother!

I'd be gray jedi as fuck. It wouldn't really matter what era either i suppose.

One side of that is fun on the way down at least.

>inb4 pic related

This, fucking seriously.

Nah, Vader was a fairly well done bad guy. Imposing, kills when needed without going overboard, keeps to the point and his lines short. Keeps his temper without good reason not to. Acts logically. Does not pretend to be anything, his presence just looms.

The lack of self exposition helps as well.

Assuming with the settings advanced SPACE SCIENCE it'd be a non-issue (on the other hand Padme dies after childbirth for 'reasons', so maybe not), but I do wonder how the force would interact with neurological disorders.

What would happen if a force user had a seizure? If it's dangerous and untreatable how would the Jedi deal with that/them?

That aside I'd probably be pretty straight laced prequel Jedi. The whole 'detachment' thing doesn't bother me terribly much. Would likely gravitate more towards diplomacy, treat the sabre more as a tool for meditation than anything else.

If I did end up in conflict with the council it'd probably be for being too traditionally Jedi. I'd likely oppose the Jedi getting involved in the Clone Wars as anything other than peace keepers and aid workers. Picking sides in a political conflict walks far too close to the desire for power and control that ends up with folk going Dark Side.

...

Nah. Vader would be a decent villian though i'd be dubious of his doublecross.
Kylo is literally angsty teen tiers of edge. That's literally his whole point. So was anakin.

Personally I'd like to be an independent dark side user.

Possibly a Sith who after graduating the academy realized how mind bobblingly stupid and wasteful the Sith as a whole were being, and decided to just strike out on his own and go on adventures, indulging in his passions and freedom without being callous or stupid.

Most likely see that the Sith have a good code, but they no longer follow it, having taken a core idea all about freedom and self fulfillment and used it to justify the most base cruelties and greed, that's destroying their own order and civilization.

Essentially like how my sith warrior in ToR went, still very much a Sith but full 'light side' roleplay direction, using passion and dark side power to still be a pretty good guy at the end of it all.

A warrior who enjoyed battle and challenges but showed mercy, honored his agreements and defended the helpless and the weak, that they might become stronger and fight by his side one day.

As far as the Miles comparison goes...maybe pretty far down the line. I don't think i'm quite that cold.

Cheers!
Miles probably wasn't either, slippery slope, man.
Still though, even if you did go that route, Renegade Lawman Ex-Jedi would be pretty badass.
Shit I'd run a campaign about that, two Ex-Jedi with completely different viewpoints and methods of carrying on after the war. One has to hunt the other because one went off the deep end.

Force is like Chi. You're a light side user so your everything is super healthy and you maintain youthful appearance better. It also staves off literally every diseases other than those you're born with. However some diseases are darkside based and can be insidious.
Being a darkside user grants you power in exchange for unhealthy living and eventually shit body.
If you were born with severe autism for example lightside force usage would suppress it and you'd be an eccentric type of jedi maybe seeing things a from a different point of view. If you were a darkside user it would help you force that shit down in some dark spot of your mind till you broke and turned insane but up to that point you'd probably be a better schemer than most being slightly withdrawn from social interaction and thus seeing it better.

I would totally play in that campaign, sounds like a good time.

Run it, run it! Grey Jedi campaign!

I'd have to work out the logistics, maybe find someone better than me to DM it, I've only ever DM'd one small campaign.
This is a good interpretation of the force by the by, I've always thought about it that way but I never really compared it to Chi before. It's a good comparison.

We believe in you user.

I'd cram myself into the "Tales of the Jedi" era, which is technically Old Republic, but much more wild and less organized than the Old Republic (which is more like the Clone Wars Republic).

I'd probably do okay, but I'd run thing less traditionally. Instead of joining with a "Jedi Order," I'd run solo or with a partner or small group of specialists as freelancers and hold other Jedi in contact so I can group up with others or ask for advice and call in favors rather than trying to navigate a bureaucracy. Seriously, the Jedi Order's operations as shown in the Prequels is stupid. The Jedi need to be out and about in the galaxy, correcting imbalances and generally reading what's going on with their own eyes, rather than the Force.

No loyalty to an Order means I've got fewer restrictions and can operate in any jurisdiction, though sometimes only with a good deal of discretion, and maintaining a team of specialists means I employ a diverse array of skills I can call upon for whatever task is at hand. Perhaps I choose only a few more permanent companions and others act as attaches, joining up when they're free or otherwise called to a high priority task.

Falling is a risk, but that's the Force for you. I'm pretty generally good and don't really seek power, so I would probably make an okay Jedi, though never claim to be a great Jedi. With a group of buddies I'm sure I can keep myself in check, there's added responsibility that would keep a fall in check if you have a team of people who count on you, look up to you, raise objections, and need your help from time to time. Again, not foolproof, but nothing ever is. A good support system certainly makes it easier, and pure detachment isn't healthy.

I'm impulsive, prone to indulgence/addiction and extremes of emotion. But I am also very idealistic and empathic, and have romantic notions about honor and destiny.

I don't know. I'd like to think I'd be good, but after a while would most likely stay away from the frantic affairs of jedi as a whole for fear of Falling, and for tranquiliy, and eke out an existence on a peaceful planet as a farmer and force-sensitive community guide.

Until something forces me back to my old life and I once again don the mantle.

I'll take my Jedi training to learn control, then just go get a day job where the I only use my powers to get things off the high shelf. Being a Jedi kind of sucks, with how much you gotta be immaculately disciplined. Their unrealistic expectations of perfection and doctrines of self-denial are half the reason so many Jedi fall, anyway.

That depends. There's "drop outs" who never make padawan but stay with the jedi who get put to work on agricultural corps and the like. Some padawans fail their terms and just become joe shmoes and the like though beint a force sensitive tends to force you into positions of power as you're a small funnel of destiny. Masters have quit as well, especially during the clone wars, and just gone on to become leaders of things or retiring like a normal person. All of the above means turning in your robes and lightsabers though there's no formal rule stating this, it's just expected of you. If the lifestyle chafes, or you just aren't jedi material, but want to still attempt to learn how to be one with the force a bit you'd wash out early as a youngling/pre padawan and be in one of the manu jedi maintained Corps. Groups. If you just generally dislike the jedi creed but have jedi master potential you'd exit the order and become a gray jedi or rogue jedi but not strictly sith. If you're a power hungry type at any stage you go sith. If you're just generally disenfranchised with it all you just plain retire from the jedi and go be someone else. They may get angry if you retire and go around using force powers on the populace to get a leg up which at best labels you a rogue jedi to be brought in or a sith/sith in the making which means lethal force is okay'd to attempt to bring you in.

To make it simple you'd probably wash out at pre-padawan level as they'd recognize training you further would be problematic. They actually wanted to do that with anakin cause they all sensed he had the same issues but fucking obi-wan also washed out at youngling stage but qui-gon claimed he saw some destiny for him which convinced the council and fucking obi-wan did the same for anakin.
That or you pass and somehow make rogue jedi or sith status. Force is picky and non-discipline types fall hard.

You don't Washout, you get assigned to one of these not-a-jedi Corps. I think there is four ranging from the medical, agriculture and a few others.

Thats washing out. They send you somewhere useful to them but they don't train you in the ways of the force anymore and you don't get a second chance. Agricultural, medical, explorational, and educational. This lets them keep tabs on force sensitives and ensures they have a reasonable idea of where you are. This is usually reserved for those that fail to reach padawan as they feel you don't have enough self control to be a responsible member of society given your position.
Masters and achieved padawans can formally resign from the jedi order being trusted to not be a dick in every day life. Failed padawans who have had decent training are also allowed this rather than take a job in one of the Corps.

Honestly I'm probably more than likely going to turn Sith-Warlord at the drop of a hat. I'm a closet megalomaniac (very big closet...) and constantly run thought-experiments as to what I would do to rise to power and what I would do with it.

Tbh unless my dog is there too, I'm pretty much guaranteed to go sith.

Hopefully become a Padawan to Micah Giett and learn to not take the Code.so seriously.

Become a Jedi Shadow and wander around the Galaxy righting wrongs. Tell the Council to kriff off if they try to give me orders.

Meet up with Jon Antilles and Zao for Sabaac and Soul Food every few years.

Eventually die because of the Clone Wars or Because Vader hunted me down.

>Eventually die because of the Clone Wars or Because Vader hunted me down.

That would be the best, resigning from the Order in protest to using slave labour in the soldiery then assembling your own crack commando squad like that old guy in Force Unleashed. If you could live through the Great Jedi Purge, then you will be rocking.

Nonsense! I'm sure with a few years of dedicated mind numbing and soul crushing practice and meditation in the isolation chambers we'll make a fine padawan out of you or you'll die trying!

I immediately fall to the dark side and probably die like a bitch. I love violence and hate everyone, and I would never give up my own desires to further galactic peace at the behest of an hypocritical jedi council. Since I refuse to acknowledge all that jedi nonsense, the natural consequence of my misanthropy and selfishness is a nose dive into the deep end of the alignment pool.

Sorry, I meant since I refuse to acknowledge all that *grey* jedi nonsense. That shit is nothing more than one giant cop-out - *obviously* everyone would take all of the force powers with none of the drawbacks if they could.

Alright then, brother. On behalf of the Order of Grey Jedi, itself an oxymoron as they tend to value freedom of thought and action from my interpretation, why is nonsense about it?

Far as I can view, you gain insight in to both sides of the force if you are able to retain your own identity when acting on impulse. If you can't or don't care then no, the ranks of the Grey Jedi will elude you.

One could argue it requires more forethought and a deepre connection to the force in order to prevent falling to either side.

I'm on the spectrum myself and I was wondering about that. I'm socially inept as fuck and if the force really makes it smoother, I could potentially develop some social skills, but I'd still stay somewhat reclusive. I would be the kind to hate doing work, I'm lazy as fuck and I would hate using a saber but the force would come naturally and easily to me because it would just make being lazy easier. Probably at some point I'd ask if I could leave at the beginning of the clone wars because I don't want to get involved in any way shape or form into that whole mess of an ordeal

Lazy

They teach you physically before they teach you force usage. The whole idea is to use it in cases where physical couldn't produce the same result. Why go into a meditative state and sink yourself into a hard to maintain and sometimes exhausting focus just to grab a beer when you can achieve the same result much easier by standing up and getting the beer yourself?
Ex:obi-wan didn't hesitate to manhandle the troopers brains because he knew no matter how much he tried to coerce him the trooper would know those were the droids he was looking for as such the only method to achieve the proper results was force usage.
This goes same for fighting and why they aren't force hopping around or levitating rather than using stairs even if it was faster. It's why yoda uses his cane 24/7 until he NEEDS to use the force to move his body in ways it normally couldn't.
You'd want sith type training for picking up a remote that was just to far out of easy reach or to have constantly on super strength.

Mishandled that a bit. Why they aren't force hopping around or levitating when theres a perfect usable set of stairs off duty.

Then I guess I'm a Sith then, doing my own things in my corner of the galaxy not minding anybody except for getting food and such

More or less. Sith don't have to be straight evil. They just have to disregard the doctorine of emotionlessness and self control. Technically gray jedi do this but they also disregard wholly giving into wants and total lack of control. Everything in proper quantities and all that, which arguably is just another stricter form of self imposition.

Dunno what kinda force user i would be. I'm too nice to actually be evil, but on the flip side i am a giant douche who would dick around with people and use it for nothing but selfishly petty purposes.

Old Republic.

>Shot in the back by disgruntled Commandos.

This would make for an interesting campaign or comic book

Two of them are me.

GREY JEDI WITH A YELLOW LIGHTSABER GREY JEDI WITH A YELLOW LIGHTSABER

In all seriousness I wouldn't get far because I'm an undisciplined, immature lackadaisy, and also because I think for myself. I couldn't be a Sith because I don't consider emotion empowering, and because I'm not a little bitch. There's no place for me in the Star Wars universe except, like, in a bar, selling deathsticks. There's not a soul I'd agree with on matters except some random fuck or two from the EU.

>lackadaisy

Wut, lackadaisical?

Jedi training is like military bootcamp in that is actively stamps out those unwanted traits. Unless they're actual permanent personality traits and not general undisciplined attitude in which case you could probably just choose from one of the Corps.

Jedi training is meant to completely detach you from life in all ways. To completely empty your head of all attachment and feeling and erase your personality to one of a blank slate and leave it such with defenses to prevent the slate from ever being filled in.

Bootcamp is building you completely to the State, to put that loyalty above all. They break you down emotionally (more than bodily) in order to build you up stronger with more aggression, with more loyalty and love and brotherhood. They are very different user with different completely different goals in mind.

Every jedi master knows and several have admitted to this in the various lores that, while that is the ideal, none reach it. We are our emotions and personalities and they shape us. You can suppress them all you want but they're still their and they shape your actions whether you see this or not. This is why the jedi routinely fall. Watching the watchers and all that but the watchers can't watch themselves when they feel there's nothing to watch for.
As an earlier example obi-wan vouched for anakin just as qui-gon vouched for him rather than heeding advice and being smart about it. The council accepted it as they hoped he was what they needed and let their wants sway their path.

Ah, no. Qui-Gon was very much against much of the Jedi Orders teachings, he was a rebel and a maverick. He was a Grey Jedi in all but name. Obi-Wan had to be begged to vouch for Anakin on his Masters instruction. Obi-Wan was very much orthodox in all things, he was on the Council at a very young age, trusted beyond any by the Council and the Grand Master. Qui-Gon was not, respected for his prowess but not trusted.

As for the various lores you mention and our emotions and personalities being part of us, of that I agree in the strongest of terms. We know this to be true, yet we deny it with the use of emotional deadness that we must profess.

As I said earlier we are created sick with emotions and feelings and the capicity to form the strongest of bonds with all things and then we are commanded to be well, well meaning to cut off these bonds, to refuse their comfort and strength.

I say this is a broken system and one that damages all involved, from Padawan to Master. There are species that can take to breaking these bonds easily, hive-oriented species, Nimonediens and Kel-Dor alike can do so with ease but others that form strong bonds with parents, with homelands nations and countries, it is a cruelty to force them to forsake part of who they are.

I never said qui-gon believed himself jedi. Just that obi-wan remembered being turned down for padawan once before and that qui-gon stood up for him. He saw himself in anakin and wanted to do what his master did for him for anakin. He chose with emotion not with the calm collectedness the jedi order founds itself on. The council warned him of this and even they caved once they thought him to be the prophesied one and thus coveted him rather than everyone sitting back and thinking that just because he's powerful doesn't instantly mean he's who you're looking for. They sought a weapon and got one rather than a shield and they were too blinded by emotion to see that.
It's an issue all jedi have and all iterations of the order had.

Well, I certainly take more of a shine to the Jedi philosophy than the Sith one, so me falling shouldn't really be in the cards. I'd probably try and investigate the more spiritual/mystical side of Force-use, and the teachings of Jedi throughout history. I'm sure I'd have to fight eventually, given that archeological and religious sites in the Star-Wars universe tends to be dangerous. But the aggressive militarism of the Order and it's co-dependence with Republic politicking wouldn't jive too well with me.

Worst comes to worst, I'm working those light-side abilities HARD. Telekinesis, healing, mind-tricks, tutaminis, the works. Even the concept of becoming part of the living force sounds like a pretty good deal compared to all the Voldemort-tier life extension tricks the Sith have.

If I don't get shrekt by one of those brickhouse Vader-clones, or gunned down because I thought I was too good for proper lightsaber training, I could see myself retiring into a position where I could advise younger Jedi in their own relationships with the Force. Kind of like Yoda, or just a guru. Gaining a high rank within the order wouldn't be too important to me.

>Just that obi-wan remembered being turned down for padawan once before and that qui-gon stood up for him. He saw himself in anakin and wanted to do what his master did for him for anakin. He chose with emotion not with the calm collectedness the jedi order founds itself on

No no, that is just not true at all. Obi-Wan did not want him on the ship in Tattooine, he was on the side of the Council that the boy was too old and indeed he was. It was loyalty and an Oath sworn to his Master Qui-Gon that motivated Obi-Wan to train the young Anakin. Nobody, but Qui-Gon believed him to be the Chosen One even after several attempts at amazing force prowess, it took a blood test to show chemically that he was amazing before people began to take him seriously.

>It's an issue all jedi have and all iterations of the order had.
Then I maintain the system is utterly broken and should be repaired with one less rigid and controlling.

I'm starting to believe I would make a good Grey Jedi, debating philosphy of the Order.

That IS one of their mainstays.

There is a branch of jedi that is exactly what you're looking called the Consulars. They're researchers, healers, and seer types. Most are diplomatically involved and ensure peace is maintained by staving off wars but plenty do research, solo or otherwise, and plenty still others focus solely on meditation and learning as much as they can about the force. all knowledge and Force no arm strength, not to say they can't fight just that its not their discipline.

It is, that's typically how they begin. It always begins with questioning orthodoxy.

Thats how a lot of things start.

Train with the Jedi Order, but ultimately leave after a time. I can't agree with their mentality. On the other hand, Sith and other darksiders are just as bad.

In short, since I have my personality, I am therefore an emotionally stable, mature and self-controlled adult. I know full well how to keep my emotions and passions in check. I mastered them both years ago, not the other way around.

Won't have much truly bad to say about the Jedi, though. I'd quite happily work with them, but their path is not mine.

That's not how you started Anakin, you were let down by the Order. Your roots in slavery should of been a source of strength, your mother taken from her humble origins and relocated to a place more suitable.

The Order forgets the plight of the families left behind once the potential Jedi has been taken, in their Towers of Ivory it is understandable but not acceptable.

Travel with us, Brother. We have no small amount of credits and have recently purchased a reliable bulk freighter for our needs. We mean to see the Outer Rim for ourselves and see how different lives are from the Core Worlds. We still have need of a small and trust worthy crew of agreeable disposition.

Jedi seem to be reasonably intelligent as a rule so I'll just do top secret runs and fix engines for the rest of my natural life.

Possibly retire onto some junk planet (ideally literally made of junk for dat Ghibli feel) and start taking drugs/meditating until I can predict the future somewhat reasonably and thus contribute to the community in a productive way once I find the time to do so.

Gotta git comfy man.

Wasted, Brother. The art of peaceful meditation is useless if you are unable to act upon what you predict will come to us. If you begin to pollute your mind and body with toxins, how can you possibly know it is a true foretelling?

Drop out and use my powers for menial tasks

Me as a Jedi?
Terrible idea; I have a very profit-based personality; I'd just drop out of the academy or whatever place I was at once I was confident in my skills, and start working for the highest bidder.
A hitman, a bodyguard, just whatever gets me paid most. Money, money, the lifeblood of the galaxy. It's always the same.

I mean, if a legitimate job would get me paid more, sure, I'd do it. But bad people tend to be rich. And I like rich people.

>since I have my personality, I am therefore an emotionally stable, mature and self-controlled adult

This is the thing that knocked Anakin for six, I think. In Legends and the movies, you see two different types of training going on.

There's the "old" Order's way, which involves raising them from almost birth (infants/toddlers, based on some TCW episodes). That way, they grow up in the temple, a controlled environment, they live with the Force and how to use it almost as soon as they can walk, so while some of them can end up as rigid, they're generally decently adjusted.

There's the "new" Order's way that Luke went, which involved getting people who already WERE emotionally mature and stable, and then adding the Force to that. Yes, he had the occasional misstep, but, yet again, though, these are people who are emotionally mature and know what they're doing. Luke's missteps were primarily with people who had shitty lives and were also late teens/early twenties at the most.

Anakin falls into neither camp. He's old enough to remember his mother, he's old enough to have clear emotions, but he never really fits into the Temple path because he continually feels himself called back to them, and he's ALSO not old enough to be able to have a decent handle on them in terms of emotional maturity like Luke's Jedi did. He got the worst of both worlds, and you can see that while he's okay around Obi-Wan for the most part, he drops his spaghetti around others (Padme in particular). TCW did a bit to make him a bit more well-adjusted, but I think the underlying, inherent flaws are still there.

In short, I think Mace Windu and Yoda were right the first time, as was Obi-Wan. Anakin really WAS too old to begin the Temple training, but unfortunately there wasn't really an option to wait until he was pushing thirty before letting him start.

No, a simple relocation of his mother to a safe and gentle place would of fixed it all. He was trained as a special exemption of the rules therefor he should not of been given to the exact same rulings. The Old Republic was the most advanced entity we have ever known, yet the Order refused to advance with it, stuck as it was in tradition and ritual.

Anybody could see that the mother was the key to Anakin, more so than the woman he loved. Had she been protected she could of been a stabling influence and prevented what followed. He was forced to abandon her to a life that we ourselves had decreed forbidden, that one person may own another completely, yet we thought to look the other way. We did not care about slavery for we would use it ourselves in the coming decades to fight a war not of our making.

Moral relativism plagued us, Brother and we suffered for it.

>We did not care about slavery for we would use it ourselves in the coming decades
Go to bed, Traviss.

Slavery was forbidden in the Republic, but Tatooine wasn't in the Republic. It's why Qui-Gon's credits were no good, why the Trade Federation couldn't follow them there, why the Jedi had no authority, and why they had to keep a low profile.

I'd be like the younger and lazier version of pic related. I'm considered a chill and mellow kind of guy that cracks jokes and acts silly. Probably not as badass, but I would strive to be.

You know Ki-Adi-Mundi AKA That One Guy With the Forehead? Yeah. His whole existence as a jedi along with every other cerean jedi is an exception as well since he and every other male of his race is required by law to have at least 5 mates if not more since they not only have fertility problems at both ends they have a Fuck-you-why-won't-you-just-go-extinct-already?! Levels of infant mortality. He's still has to have these deep connections with more than one mate AND remain entirely emotionless to boot even though he's required tomgo back to his homeworld from time to time just to conceive, have children, and be a proper father. The same goes for every single one of his race and they are still required to maintain jedi code. Anakins excuse is that he was a little bitch and couldn't let go where all he had to do was look at superiors with 10 times the emotional baggage he ever had and watch how they still maintain their duties properly.

I'd start out as a promising student, but progressively slip deeper and deeper into depression and questioning what the point of it all is. Chances are I'd probably go sith after that, though it wouldn't be very committed. Most of the time I wouldn't start shit, and nobody would even know I was on the dark side, but then I'd have one shitty day and then it would just be a few blurry days of chopping off limbs and choking out fuckers.

I might end up similar to Darth Nihilus, though instead of hunger, I'd just eat away at people's emotional stability with a natural aura of negativity.

What are Clone Troopers if not fodder for the cannons of the CIS? Slave soldiers is a step below slave labour

They call them Honor-Wives, the fact remains he should of been treated differently because he was the Chosen One, were he not and still accepted for training, his circumstances demanded his training be different because of his ability alone.

If I managed to finish the jedi education, I'd probably fuck off and be a civilian or a hermit. I think I'd make an average jedi, although I do have a short temper and negative tendencies that I should watch out for.
Not interested in becoming a monk in service of a hypocritical hierarchy or a madman doomed to pain and treachery. I might be tempted to study the dark side out of sheer curiosity, though.