I'd say so, but they could have spent a bit more time on the name.
>it's called red veil >because there's a guy with a red veil in it
David Lee
Yes, because Pan0 and Gonads are both shit factions.
Isaiah Davis
It's like a natural evolution of O:I
I really hope it helps ivigorate Haqqq and Yu Jing the same way it did Nomads and PanO
David Wilson
I like the name red veil. It manages to be evocative of both factions and violence all at the same time.
Daniel Price
I think Haqq wins though lol.
Alexander Thomas
>evocative of both factions and violence it should be called fried kebab
Gavin Lee
Alright, I am getting into this game. How are the Onxy Contact Force as an army?
I thought their models looked pretty dope. How do they play compared to other forces?
Thanks for any help.
David Lopez
>be low rank but efficient Agent >love blooms on the black ops >tfw your Ninja gf doesn't exist officially >tfw you can only mention her job at all on scummy Arachne boards >tfw you have to go to state dinners and pretend to be an eccentric bachelor who somehow neither has an interest in painted whores nor a family-making wife >tfw you cannot be a model servant of the Emperor in public and a virtuous man in private >that fucking ass though
Adrian Bailey
Highly mobile attack units supported by big guns. Good link team options. Misses out on a lot of good CA units though. If you want to start with Onyx, I'd recommend the CA starter pack.
Joshua Wood
Yes, and considering it'll be the same price as the Onyx Contact force (same number of figures) getting it from GameNerdz with free shipping at $70 is going to be awesome. I'll need to pick up the new Naffatun as well. Finally get to start Al Medinat despite the lack of Sectorial rules.
There was still rumours of Al Medinat getting a super fast (6-4) bio tech troop and getting a huge "gorilla/Ajax sized" HI. Which seems like CB decided to finally I something with the kind of bland and somewhat useless Ahl Fassed. I'm pleased with that. Hoping for more bio tech troops as well. If not some more troops with the best tech Haqq/Al Medinat has to offer.
Regen LI with MSV 1 and Biometric L2 Visor would be cool. Along with a madTrap profile.
Anyone else loving that new Khawarij?
Grayson Bennett
Just get the Onyx Army pack, it has shit you'd buy anyway and at a discount.
Jeremiah Scott
CA Starter is in the Onyx box...
Benjamin Morgan
Next miniature market sale when?
David Thompson
September Seems to be a quarterly thing.
Cooper Sanchez
It's all about the Gamenerdz m8.
Liam Jenkins
Gamenerdz is for stuff I need Miniature market sales are for things I didn't know I needed.
Unidrons are amazing line troopers, FO, dogged and plasma is awesome for 15 points.
Nexus hacker Lt every time.
Double Noctifiers every time.
Dr Worm is great, and they have really solid TAGs.
I love Onyx.
Jayden Reyes
Second this.
Tyler Fisher
Don't forget to mention that they're also remotes and can but buffed with hacking programs. Multiple states of unconscious also gives you more chances to dogged.
Charles Davis
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Josiah Williams
Is that another Boarding Shotgun Tiger Soldier?
Landon Lopez
Nope. It's a hacker with a combi.
Brayden Anderson
I can't get a good view underneath to see the magazine or the barrels, but I am telling you it looks a lot like the BS.
Lucas Brooks
There are multiple pictures and even an article on Corvus Belli's website that says it's a Combi Hacker.
Noah Evans
It looks a lot like the BSG because YJ combi rifles multi rifles and boarding shotguns look very similar from above.
Luis Cook
That video literally was just posted lol.
Glad I finally get the Combi Rifle+ LFT profile. Now I'll have all the new Tigers.
The nice thing about Red Veil is that they both display the strengths of their faction. Yu Jing has two HI, one of their solid MI, and a SK. Haqq having it's stronger LI presence with the Khawarij and Zhayedan along with their excellent SK the Tuareg.
They both seem to be balanced as CB said. Though I think the Haqq player is going to have a bit higher of a learning curve with properly using the Khawarij.
If that Al Fasid does get Mech Deployment with Mines and that heavy duty HMG+LGL... [heavy breathing]
Robert Sullivan
Mech deploy grenade launcher is awesome.
Ironic that it is a fantastic way to remove kebab.
Jonathan Sanders
Man, now I will have 3 Tigers lol.
Parker Wright
It's not mech deploy. It's Hmg+LGL (with normal and smoke) Heavy pistol Mines and minelayer skill.
Zachary Scott
Unambiguously. No model as low-use as the Grenzer sniper. Non shit female poses. Sword dude has at least also packed his gun. Greater differentiation of factions. Heavy weapons that are not sniper rifles.
And hell, Icestorm was still a great deal.
Daniel Phillips
Christ, that's a lot of versatility. Is this fucker secretly a megazord made out of Muyibs or something?
Liam Carter
Where's those Al Fasid spoilers coming from? Smoke LGL & Minelayer is a massive toolbox on an HMG HI!
Jack Edwards
It's worth bearing in mind what you trade for that. Vanilla CA and Morats can more or less ignore the loss of Lt rule. Onyx don't, and the wave of remotes means your opponent knows who to hunt. You get some amazing elites, but miss out on some useful midprice filler units. No smoke game of any sort and a tendency to be very reliant on your core link team.
All the positives mentioned very much apply. Vanilla CA is all-round. Onyx are lesso
Parker Price
Yeah, I don't know where you are getting your info from. It would have specifically stated on the Dossier if it was a Smoke LGL. Considering there is no Visor in the force at all, that would not be the smartest thing to do when the opposing side was given a Hsien.
Grayson Stewart
Some people were able to watch the Beast of War videos where they talked about his new profile before they were fixed to be private. He also apparently has Veteran Lvl 1.
Jason Smith
The spoilers are from the bow videos. They are 100% accurate. Also, yes, a megazord of muyibs is a fitting description.
Jayden Walker
Man, I'm guessing 60-70 points for all that?
Glad he is so differentiated from Azrail.
Wyatt Butler
I'm guessing more like 50 points 2-3 swc If it were that much, it would be comparable to the YanHuo
Kayden Allen
Also, don't forget, silhouette 5 is generally a disadvantage.
Nathan Powell
Azrail is 40, and this guy has way more special rules and I'm guessing better stats.
~55 seems reasonable.
Lucas Watson
Am I the only one super pleased that Disney Infinity is going bye-bye?
Gone will be the days when 90% of the Google search results for "Infinity the Game" are Disney Infinity.
I love the new design for Yu Jing. It definitely grew on me, despite really enjoying old school Yu Jing.
Isaiah Sanchez
I've been trying to make lists that include all 3. It's hard :(
Ayden Butler
Not soon enough if you ask me, it will still be some time before my search results stop being polluted with that garbage
Jason Taylor
I've been tempted to sell my JSA up til the new ninja leaked. Now I want to sell my Ariadna, which I said I'd never do, and just buy all the pretty YJ stuff I don't have yet...
Elijah Peterson
I own all of that second row, haven't bought anything on the top row yet due to a lack of interest in my gaming area and money being tight. Was considering selling my small Ariadna force along with my Nomads. Just stick to Haqq, Tohaa, Yu Jing, and maybe... maybe CA or Nomads. Nomads being easier to sell since I love my MAF and other evil aliens.
My JSA needs those new Domaru... Ugh.
What all do you have for JSA?
Bentley Jenkins
Agreed. That shit irritates me.
Colton Ortiz
Old Domaru, a single new Domaru (don't like them enough to get them all), Kempeis, Aragotos, Asuka, O-Yoroi, Yuriko Oda, Oniwaban, Shinobu, Tokusetsu, Karakuri, Saito Togan, Mushashi Miyamoto, Yojimbo
I'm still kind of tempted to sell up due to the lack of decent Keisotsu models, but the knowledge of an imminent Ninja and that new Mushashi model are making me not want to. I'm tempted to shift the Aragotos, Oniwabans, TAG and mercs in favour of vanilla, though. I've got a Guijia, the two Tiger Soldiers, and both newer Hac Taos; I'll probably end up getting Red Veil and the ISS starter at some point.
I'm kind of in the same boat; there's only really one person I play against in my area, and he's lost interest recently. It's annoying as shit because he plays Haqqislam so this new starter pack is perfect for a split.
Dylan Watson
Fucking great line
Carter Young
Don't sell anything, buy more.
Problem solved.
Kevin Myers
Any anons play in NE area, specifically CT? Was going to get into the game and saw there was an escalation league starting up but wanted to know what the popularity was like.
Bentley Taylor
Awh man, that's upsetting show him the models and turn him back.
You've got a fair amount of JSA there. Just imagine when they get redone with how nice the CG and Zhanshi are.
William Robinson
>2019 >Keisotsu finally get reconsidered for a new sculpt >Britain no longer in EU, hammered by crippling import taxes No thanks :(
Jack King
I got you senpai. I'll send you two packs.
Hnnghh. I want my new Yu Jing.
Noah Gutierrez
Look, I've already been struggling with starting a YJ force, you're not helping me here. Curse my love for heavy infantry.
The Al'Fasid is also really damn cool.
Jeremiah Taylor
Come to the heavy side, senpai.
Brayden Wood
Do it. For the glorry of Dju Ching!
Andrew Sanchez
In light of the new releases I've got a curious question here. We have a whole bunch of JSA guys here, but not a single YJ as such, but with all the gorgeous new shit and those starters I am really tempted to get into the faction. How does YJ play by itself? I mean, I know about them being supposed to be powerarmor central, but other factions can do that just as well, i.e. the PanO deluge of knights.
Mason Collins
I've mostly played against ISS, but in general I think YJ is a pretty flexible army. Given how good and varied their HI are, the lists I've seen tend to focus on a small core of HI backed up by lots of kuang shi and other LI. So while you can do the deluge of HI, usually I think YJ is going more for an elite HI strike team as the heart of their force. What that elite HI team looks like is up to you. Agents, Shang Ji, Yan Huo, Domaru Butai, Wu Ming, Shikami, Daofei, HacTao... you can tailor that HI nugget really any way you want, from elite generalist HI to sneaky TO camo guys, to cheap HI (for HI) spam, anything in between.
David Morgan
Super flexible, with great HI and warbands.
Kuang Shi plus Shaolin make a great core of the force, with specialized HI being your heavy lifters.
Zachary Moore
I personally never liked the old aesthetic much. But this new one is exactly what YJ is meant to be. Sleek, high tech, more than just the sum of it's technology. Elegant, but lethal. And the new colour scheme is just awesome. Better than that old green on the Zhanshis were.
PanO isn't exactly the counterargument to YJ being the HI faction. PanO is also a HI heavy faction. YJ gets a bit of everything. More so than PanO, in some respects. Lots of high tech stuff, a generally aggressive mindset, and just the right amount of sneaky shit, including some very rare HI + gear combinations.
Colton Price
Man, I feel shipped with red veil. It's amazing for new players but it offers me fuck all as a Hassassin bahram player
Grayson Hughes
Bahram should be seeing a starter and resculpts within the next year. Cb will need to start laying the groundwork for Khanate and caliphate (this is a good start for the latter)
Isaac Evans
Fuck all is better than one or two models you can't live without I think.
Christian Gomez
>Bahram should be seeing a starter and resculpts within the next year.
That's good news. I actually don't think most of the Bahram stuff looks too bad. Ragiks need an update and I want Farzans that look more distinct from Fidays but overall I'm pretty happy with their sculpts. Muyibs are some of my favorite minis in the game.
Thomas Bennett
Since zhayedan are caliphate, i just cant wait to link them in the future, screw resculpts, give us acheron falls already
Chase Phillips
What is the rule for fielding Military Orders?
Ayden Parker
their like a 16 year old girl relationship status on facebook > complicated
nice dubs
Angel Sanchez
>Magister Knights link team >Rush into the enemy position >ignore objectives >Scream "DEUS VULT" as high as you can while tearing your opponent appart >Then go back home crying because a sneaky little TO skirmisher made all the objectives and you lost >Post in the forums how unbalanced the game is
Cooper Diaz
Is it just me does Martial Arts level 2 kind of suck? As long as its a fact to face roll, using level 1 instead almost always seem better.
Noah Cox
Playing a sectorial by itself means you will get left out every so often.
Nolan Harris
Ragiks just got updated.
I don't think HB needs any resculpts other than Asawira, though another Farzan would be nice.
More options are never worse, and MA2 doesn't seem to cost much.
Aaron Campbell
Don't I know it.
>"Vedic ALEPH will get new models and a proper sectorial after we've finished with the Paradiso stuff!" >"Vedic ALEPH will get new models and a proper sectorial in the next edition!" >"Actually, they'll get them in HSN3!" >"Aaaaactually, it'll be Acheron Falls."
Fuck you Bostria stop tugging off those Homeric homos where's my fucking Deva links and Karna recreation?
William Young
>Fuck you Bostria stop tugging off those Homeric homos where's my fucking Deva links and Karna recreation? It's siesta time, please call back later.
Luke Sanchez
I wish we still had that really great drawfag so I could request an angry Asura throwing a bunch of slumbering Greeks out of a window.
Anthony Morales
>I don't think HB needs any resculpts other than Asawira, though another Farzan would be nice. Sure they do. Daylami could use new minis, and Barid could use a scale up. I don't mind the current Barid, but he's definitely too small to fit with the rest of the newer line. And other course the old Ragiks who are already getting new miniatures. Also as nice as the Muyibs are, they're crap compared to the Govads miniature. Then like you said: new Asawira and extra Farzans would be nice
And personally, I'd like a new fem Fiday. As iconic as she is, I've never liked the miniature.
Jack Clark
I'll be using the zhayedan as an extra Govad or lasiq profile. I more excited about the new spec-ops and the possibility that she will be included in hb
Joshua Wood
It's good against people or objects that can't defend themselves. But yes, in actual combat it's incredibly shitty.
Alexander Morris
I want people to suffer bad models if they want to spam daylami, it is a just punishment.
Adam Adams
I really like the Muyibs though. They are very tacticool. Even more so than other models. I guess if they redid them but had them keep the same look but, they are still pretty nice models.
Same with the Asawira. I like how they look but if they just took the same design and upscaled it a bit, they would be golden. I do like the idea of them being "light" heavy infantry and their armor being smaller than the rest.
Out of everything in Haq, I kind of want Djanbazan resculpts the most right now,
Aiden Perry
Well, I don't use daylami because they're minis are ugly.
I agree with you, but even still the Muyibs are looking tired. The ninjas look cool and yet CB improved on it while keeping the general look/style. Something like that for the Muyibs would be ace. For me they're too round and soft looking. They need more operator gubbins to go with their kitted out profiles.
>Djanbazan Completely agree. I one in everyone of my vanilla lists sometimes more in QK. Would love new Djanbazan.
Nathan Morales
What are people's thoughts on Caledonia?
Wallace? Which Haris? How many wolves?
Jack Gutierrez
I do feel like, out of every other faction, Haqqislam has the least amount of fugly models left. Even most of our older stuff that hasn't been resculpted looks decent.
Yu Jing and Ariadna still have a ton of shit that needs an update.
Ian Edwards
Wallace should be in most CHA lists. Both haris links are good, depends on what you want from it. Wulvers are close range assault dudes, Mormaers are HMG platforms that can bring smoke. 2 wolves is usually best, but 1 is fine if you want the points for something else and you can go with 3 if you're happy to spend 70 points on dog-shaped cruise missiles.
Colton Hernandez
>a ton of shit that needs an update Right, still didn't stop CB from remaking, Highlanders, Achilles, etc etc. Even the old Hac Tao HMG was just a little over a year old iirc before getting a new mini. Hell, maybe the Foxytrot will be a reboot seeing how awful she is even after Angel's paintjob.
I'm not saying which needs more attention over the other. Just that I'm not content with some of the current Hassassin Bahram line. What's most likely next are more Caliphate models in prep for the new sectorial.
It'll be Kazaks for Ariadna.
>Haqqislam has the least amount of fugly models left Shit, I like some of them over the vanilla Aleph stuff like the starter Dakinis, Deva, and even the starter Asura, which always seems to be packed with a fucked up face. Even still, Hassassins could use some love.
Jonathan Diaz
I am not saying Haq shouldn't get more resculpts. I would love to. I just think they're better looking as a whole than any of the other factions except maybe Tohaa but they don't count.
I am pretty excited for the idea of Kazaks getting some updates. They are in real need of it and I like them a lot. Hoping the rumors of them being the next sectoral is true. Though it does seem weird that space France seems to be getting pushed back.
Jayden Cruz
Kazaks are next because they probably wont require a complete rules/playstyle overhaul like they're planning with Space France.
Juan Rivera
Depends when we get next sectorials. MRRF is due the Acheron falls because then we get reinforcement rules which will become their thing. If we get new sectorials before that, then we get Kazaks.
Brandon Diaz
So the new starter has a selection Caliphate units in it. I imagine the we'll see a special weapons/profile box for the Zhayedan and more standard Zhayedan in the Cali starter.
Logan Peterson
What are the reinforcement rules?
Daniel Reyes
>I am pretty excited for the idea of Kazaks getting some updates. How about CB actually do USArdinia justice first?
Lucas Nelson
What'so bad about the current Daylami?
Ayden Williams
Bostria already confirmed on Mayacast that the Kazaks, Tunguska, and SEF are next for Campaign Paradiso N3. Also instead of 2 sectorials, CB will be doing 1 per faction to mitigate delays
This please. Still an unplayable army for me, because most of what I want to play dont even have miniatures.