Alright Veeky Forums, let's say as a sole sane individual in 40k you realise that they're your best bet as allies against chaos, nids, orks and everything else in this galaxy.
Obviously the rest of the Imperium still goes full "muh xenos", but how do we even begin to mend this shitty, unnecessesary massacre of human lives and resources against someone who you'd want on your side?
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The emprah is okay with it.
Do you think your opinion matters? Billions of people die in war every day for the Imperium, can't se why one person should make the difference.
Make cute babies mon-keigh
nah
>muh friendly xenos! it was all an accident! we should be pals!
People like OP just don't "get" 40k on a fundamental level.
What happened to "the enemy of my enemy is my (temporary) friend?"
“The enemy of my enemy dies next.”
-Lord Solar Macharius, Maxims of the Eminent
Isn't it already established lore that some high level human psykers and several farseers work together in secret against chaos via the black library? Far from all Eldar and even fewer Humans are even aware of the fact.
There seem to be some that understand the absolute necessity of pooling their resources, even if they respect the hard to solve differences between Eldar and Humans. Mercy and some shadow of Empathy between the two can be found in 40k lore too.
Path of the Seer for example, an eldar gives up the warrior path because she can't handle killing unarmed human women and children.
Rape of an eldar are the only human eldar relations that should happen
>eldar helps him out
>he is a dick and leaves them to die out
Wew.
You don't, and neither do the Eldar. They don't care a lick for human existence beyond how it benefits them. This is 40K, there's no mutual understanding, just self-destructive dogma and no realistic hope for anyone.
Taldeer does it to him as well. Only difference is he is a badass enough to get out of it and still assist the Eldar on the final mission. He doesn't retrieve the Titan though, so who knows what happens to him after the Lorn V campaign.
>eldar plan to do the exact same thing
The moral of the story is to never trust eldar.
>implying the eldars aren't cryptic cunts that will kill entire human colonies because muh maiden world or muh master plan instead of simply explaining the threats to the inquisitor.
They've been a dying race for 11 millenias, and they still haven't learned shit.
At least the DE or the Exodites managed to bounce back. The Craftworlds are just a huge embarrassment.
But there are some limited cooperation at the highter levels. Eldar ambassadors are a thing, for example. See Grease Monkey from the Last Chancers.
Here it was that or getting backstabbed by the Eldar.
That campaign was meant to show what is essentially the definition of Human Eldar relations. The Eldar begrudgingly help the humans out because they need them to fight the necrons, but the second they don't need the humans they try to kill them, because they believe the humans will betray them. At the same time the general knows betrayal by the eldar is inevitable so he in turn draws the same conclusion resulting the the cutscene linked earlier. Both tried to stab the other in the back because they didn't want to be the one with the knife in their back.
He's a human, so it's okay.
Astra Militarum in a nutshell.
Craftworlders are the most numerous of all the Eldar and have completely restructured their way of life to preserve their culture while also avoiding Chaos so they can go on the offensive. Of course they kill some chuckle fuck humans sitting on a world ripe to grow an Exodite colony or to save the soul of a brother or sister from eternal damnation.
Because if you try to be nice to a Eldar, nine times of ten they will backstab you and destroy everything you love because some vision they didn't bother to explain.
As says, in 40K the enemy of my enemy it just that, nothing more, nothing less.
You're assuming the eldar want us on THEIR side, which they don't. The hatred is mutual. The moment they met crusading imperial fleets that refused to bend over and let themselves get anally raped by xenos was the moment they decided we would need to go.
What happens is you form an alliance with Eldar and then they throw you to the wolves sacrificing trillions of humans to save a few of their own
Because Eldar are cunts and allying with them is terrible
I don't agree with you user, Eldrad tried to not be a total dick to Fulgrim and because Fulgrim went muh demon sword, he vowed never to try again.
It's like the fucking israelo-palestinian conflict. Heaps upon heaps of "let's try again" followed by betrayal and more betrayal, with too many groups having an interest in nobody getting along.
Dark Eldar are far more numerous than the Craftworlders.
We're not even sure how many exodites they are because they have hidden planets far away. Who knows how many there are there? And since those Eldars aren't all path-obnubilated, something tells me their fertility is a bit better too.
You scream like a child about diversity and promote human-guilt until Xenos have their own neighborhoods, become elected officials, implement Eldar Shariah, and complain about the number of mon-keigh males on public transport.
>that last tab
user, got something to say?
>Astra Militarum
Hey I'd do it. Is there any thing in the lore about eldar and human offspring? Is it possible? What would the hybrid look like? Also is there instances of tau and human? Eldar and tau? How diluted can we make the gene pools?
>Hey I'd do it. Is there any thing in the lore about eldar and human offspring? Is it possible? What would the hybrid look like?
Pointy ears.
>Also is there instances of tau and human?
Tau don't want your junk in their women, user.
You do realize that when they eventually bring Yinnead into existence and no longer have to worry about Slaanesh they want to turn around and kill humans right?
Maybe not ALL of them but this seems to be a commonly held position by most CWE
>how to take a screenshot
>light bulbs in my ass
Ahahah. Good sport, user.
How is it possible? Eldar aren't even mammalian. I thought they were like those crystal algae.
>Eldar aren't even mammalian.
It's rare when it happens.
For the sake of argument, if the farseer was able to tell the humans wouldn't betray them, would they still betray them?
It's a meme to put weird or cancerous things in your tabs when posting screenshots to Veeky Forums.
My personal favorites are furaffinity, naruto crossover fanfictions, and gay sex with hats on.
You don't keep an ox that can't pull a plow anymore, user.
Thanks, user.
>gay sex with hats on.
That doesn't sound too weird.
FUCKING SYNTH KILL IT NOW
Roll to hit it, Danse!
you imply that the Eldar are interested in being friends with humans.
Is not. Outside of that Ultramarine Librarian from Rogue Trader, the only way a spawn of Human and Eldar could exist is probaly as a experiment of a Dark Eldar who drank a strong drug that day.
You don't
Reminder that Fulgrim was in the wrong here.
Look at any wiki or the Lexicanum about Eldar and most say the greatest amount of Eldar exists on the Craftworlds. I don't even get why people think Commoragh has the most Eldar. Yes, it's a fuck huge prefall space port but the majority of the population is the slave caste that aren't Dark Eldar. Plus you're comparing it to several moon sized ships with multiple cities each consisting of nothing by Eldar. Craftworlders make up the bulk of the Eldar.
The only way to fix the Imperium would be to tear it down. It's too shitty and bloated at this point to change from within.You'd need like an entire segmentum breaking off and doing its own thing.
>"What's that you said, suspicious talking sword-kun? Kill them all and wear their skin? Then try to kill my dad? Ok then, that sounds sane."
Fulgrim is not even remotely close to being right in any way.
That was only out of self preservation. If Eldrad didn't need the Imperium for his plans you can bet he wouldn't have given a fuck.
I imagine any kind of large-scale change of heart from either species would take longer to catch on than any number of 40k's "end-game" scenarios.
Even if the highest levels of leadership of both species agreed on an alliance (as if that were possible, considering how disconnected both sides are from any kind of real central leadership), the vastness of space, the difficulty of communicating such a decision, the difficulty--having communicated it--of convincing the recipients that such an unprecedented decision is legitimate, and the sheer inertia of individual racial hatred on both sides would strangle any real chance of it being taken seriously before, say, the Tyranids eat everyone, the Orks take over, the Necrons finish waking up, or Abaddon gets his shit together.
Small-scale stuff, where a desperate member (or cell) of the Imperium finds common cause with an individual, surely-exceptional, in-no-way-representative-of-their-species-as-a-whole Xeno or group of Xenos? Sure. But any kind of permanent or widespread Imperium/Eldar alliance is a pipe dream.
He just wanted eldar prostitutes.
The ones with more population are the DE, followed by the Exodites, then the Craftworld eldars and then Chaos eldars
Just about everything grimdark about 40k stems from elder psychic pollution. Let's just get that out of the way right now.
This is yet another "if only" situation. If only your aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle. Nearly any race would be the perfect ally against all the others plus chaos... if only you could convince them to side with you. Necrons, Orks, Tau, hell even Tyranids. They'd be fucking amazing as allies of humans if you could swing the deal. Which you can't, for exactly the same reasons for the Eldar as any others.
Eldar are hotties, and as close genetic relatives of the bonobos you spend most of your time evaluating things on their fuckability potential. Which they don't reciprocate. And other than that, there's no real commonality of interest.
Oh yes, it's always those Xenos that are not able to cooperate, never this nazi space-catholic Imperium or something like this...
Learn your lore you stupid faggot. The only reason the Emperor became xenophobic is because he kept getting betrayed by xenos every time he tried to ally with them.
Every single xenos faction besides Tau were already the way they were before the Imperium even existed.
Dark Eldar, Necrontyr, Tyranids, Orks, all fucking evil and predate the IoM. It's the fucking xenos fault the Imperium became Nazis.
Killing the Emprah is what any sane man would have done if given the opportunity. The skin thing was a bit weird though. But hey, wearing the skins of other species isn't exactly something humans have ever balked at, and Eldar aren't even the same domain.
What if we could start a cross breeding program and have the half eldar offspring act as diplomats.
Are you implying that the Imperium doesn't have a knee-jerk reaction whenever something xeno appears? I mean we could go back to Eldrad and Fulgrim, in which an Eldar approached a Primarch...
It doesn't matter. Eldar see you as a brute meant to be expendable for their kind.
That isn't an alliance.
Too bad half-eldar aren't canon outside of stupid fanfiction.
Muh waifus though
Shit artist, please never post again.
You might want to fuck off with those.
There are plenty of alliances carried out in exactly that way.
Think the Soviets and the Allies in the Second World War. Neither particularly liked one another, but they worked together in a common cause anyhow.
You really going to make us pull that ultrasmurf librarian blurb out of the rulebook?
>he thinks RT is canon
It's literally incompatible with the current lore.
It's not like you got any other evidence for half-eldar outside of this ancient rogue trader lore which isn't compatible with current wh40k fluff.
Nice complete lack of sources bub.
>mfw I always thought craftworlds were round, like Cybertron
>mfw they're just giant fucking spaceships
REEEEEEEEEEEE
I had this problem as a kid accept with boobs.
Boobs are round, though.
Watch less porn.
>mfw I thought The Rock was literally just a fortress on top of a floating asteroid like pic related
>mfw it's actually a giant spaceship-shaped asteroid
Are they user? Are they really round and full of hope like the homeworld of the Autobots in it's prime? Or do they sag and descend to the earth like xenos star ships coming to bring a tyrannical dystopia to the earth?
I pity you people who have fucked only sixty year olds, apparently.
My current girlfriend's boobs are indubitably round, and I think I would know. I don't know what kinda boobs you've been seeing.
No, it isn't.
We know at this point that humanity's old enemies attacked them during the collapse of their empire, but the Great Crusade encountered many planets and larger domains where humans and aliens had remained allies or at least at peace.
The Emperor hated aliens because they weren't like him. He was the archetypal racist.
Maybe stop using shitty BL-based arguments to try to trump official rulebook lore and you wouldn't make so many stupid posts.
"Commoragh is full of half breeds."
>b-but they could be other half breeds!
It's an eldar city, you twats, the half breeds they're talking about are obviously eldar/other stuff.
It's canon nigga.
Even the core books only say that humanity's old enemies went in for the kill.
The question is: They were made by experiments or the old fashioned way?
"Suns die, Warp rifts open and
countless isolated worlds fall to the predatory xenos species that hunt throughout the
galaxy. It is not uncommon for Imperial fleets to arrive at a planet’s coordinates to find a
once teeming world transformed into a blasted and barren landscape, or once advanced
civilisations reduced to feral hunters."
"Sensing this, predatory aliens closed in on all
sides until, on every frontier, worlds burned and were lost. Not even systems once
thought unassailable were safe from the rapacious xenos threat."
"Old enemies continue their onslaught and more races of
hostile xenos are discovered with alarming regularity."
"Mankind has
had to call upon all their sprawling might to defend against the largest xenos invasions
recorded in human history. Not a single segmentum has been spared and even Holy Terra
itself has come close to falling into inhuman hands several times."
"The vast size of the Imperial Guard is
some indication of the scale of Mankind’s constant struggle, for hostile xenos races are
everywhere, an unending threat."
I'm not going to even keep going. The rulebook probably has hundreds of such quotes and I'm not going to paste them all just because you're a fucking moron.
Then why didn't he hate humans? They aren't like him either.
You're a fucking moron if you think it's the Emperor's fault that ORKS and TYRANIDS of all things only fight against mankind because we hurt their feelings.
I don't think anyone's talking about orks or tyranids.
The Imperium kills tons of random minor xenos that are no threat to it.
>It's an eldar city, you twats, the half breeds they're talking about are obviously eldar/other stuff.
And this proves what exactly? I mean those Haemonculi could make whatever they want.
The guy didn't say "it's full of haemonculi experiment half breeds."
What conceivable reason would there be to mass-produce random eldar/human hybrids and just flood the Commoragh with them?
I can see them messing around with genes in any way for any reason, but there's no reason for the haemonculi to just set loose a huge population of hybrids all over the city.
>Women are useless in battle
What else is fucking new
Nice source.
Lexicanum.
>this threada again
SHARP-EARS WILL BACKSTAB YOU RIGHT WHEN ENEMIES STOP THREATENING THEIR ANOREXIC ASSES. STOP TRYING TO BEFRIEND A VENOMOUS SNAKE
>What conceivable reason would there be to mass-produce random eldar/human hybrids and just flood the Commoragh with them?
Because you just did a shit load of drugs? Because it annoys people, which is causing them pain? Because those wretched creatures will live horrible painful existences, and that thought is one of the few things the DE can get off to now? Because all eldar and dark eldar are huge dicks, who don't give a shit about others suffering, hence why OP is a moron? Because it's funny? Because it's tuesday?
Make your pick. All are equally possible reasons
I think there are some instances of Harlequins performing on human worlds and letting Ordos Maleus inquisitors use the Black Library.
Behold.
Pics with a timestamp or it didn't fucking happen
If that were true we wouldn't have abhumans, sanctioned xenos, and grox burgers. Next.
There's no such thing as canon in 40k you collosal faggot. All sources are equally "myths and legends ".
You're a fucking retard for not realizing that applies to both parties.
The Emperor exists. Canon.
Space Marines are genetically male. Canon.
Tyranids exist. Canon.
Chaos exists. Canon.
Terra is the base of humanity and the Imperium. Canon.
The Terran solar system contains planets such as Mars and Saturn. Canon.
The person you're quoting literally says there is a set of canon.
And Emperor never tried to ally with xenos, and there is not a single known "ally species" of DAoT humans that turned against them.
Veeky Forums's fanon is teh worst
What about those space orangutans that made mini weapons?