What are some good ways to fuck with players that don't involve actual damage or anything like that, but are mostly psychological?
A favorite of mine is that harpies, being girls what can fly, mean that at any place, any time, a player could have girls watching when they do something. This pressures the players to do well in a way they are unused to, with the added benefit of girls laughing if they fuck up. Priceless.
Joshua Peterson
Does this actually work? I imagine the players stop caring after a while and start seeing harpies as part of the scenery.
Nicholas Torres
Do you happen to have any pictures of laughing harpies?
Grayson Adams
Im not weeaboo fag so i would just shoot the harpies...
Landon Hall
Watch those sharp angles there bud
Juan Rogers
You use them sparingly to prevent desensitization. Like all good techniques.
Robert Clark
Spectral riders.
One day they notice something is been riding their shadows back. Once they notice it, the fatigue for days until one day it is gone. Next to them is a gift that they really need.
I have seen parties analyze a pile of 20 silver, refuse their favorite food and even throw a puppy in a river because it was left by something they would not trust.
Lincoln Rivera
Do you also shoot random townsfolk for looking at you?
Logan Hernandez
ooh, that's a good one. Only the most trusting of SUCKERS would accept such a suspicious gift!
Samuel Evans
Yeah, shoot them. I'm sure they'll be really cooperative and not try and drop rocks on you when you sleep.
Mason Wood
That or they do what all good flying people do. GOSSIP. Know that embarrassing thing you did? Now everyone does.
Jeremiah Young
>shooting innocent sentients
Colton Stewart
As if Oblivion guards have any right to bitch about outright slaughter.
Jackson Watson
Sadly, those are much harder to find that I thought they would be.
Luis Ward
The word you're looking for is 'sapients'
Xavier Turner
Harpies are chaotic evil and deserve to die. That user had the correct response.
Colton Cruz
>harpies >sentient
They're Chinese Rooms, crude imitations of conscious beings.
Owen Young
>alignment systems >usually either way, you've got the edge for shooting someone for just hangin' out in your vicinity and being interested in your goings on.
Kevin Cook
SHOULD HAVE PAYED THE FINE!
Caleb Lewis
>itt Veeky Forums gets triggered by imaginary girls looking at their imaginary wizard
Kayden Nelson
> laughing > at a wizard Lucky he didn't shrink them, put them in a jar, and proceed to shit in the jar.
WHO'S LAUGHING NOW YE LITTLE WINGED CUNTS
Grayson Garcia
Change descriptions of scenery from time to time to make tham doubt what is real and which description is correct
James Peterson
I don't know I'd feel a "pressure to do well" exactly, considering my characters' ability to not make foolish-looking mistakes is mostly determined by the fickle whims of fate. At best I'd be rolling my eyes somewhat harder and more exasperatedly as the dice show a catastrophic result.
Juan Ross
you need slightly less cynicism. Or slightly more booze. I can't tell.
Evan Perry
call of cthulu?
Christopher Nguyen
Are you retarded?
Jaxon Kelly
That's a great way to get Harpy talons in the taint.
Jason Long
>alignment as anything else than a roleplaying suggestion/orientation
except for when your DM strictly follows the written creature alignment. which would mean the harpies would have tried to attack you the moment they had an opportunity.
Evan Ramirez
> Do you also shoot random townsfolk for looking at you? You mean witnesses?
Xavier Mitchell
Not him, but sapience and sentience are different things.
Sapience - reasoning. Humans are generally capable of it (unless they are Berniecrats who actually thought Bernie wasn't Hillary's stooge).
Sentience - feeling. Cows and chickens are sentient, for example.
Daniel Ward
>not summoning a monster to do the shitting in your place >not discovering that the monster doesn't have an anus >not diving deeply into research to figure how to give the monster an ability to shit on trapped harpies in a jar only to be distracted by some other nonsense a short while later Wizards, not even once.
Nolan Edwards
They are mindless creatures who try to kill you anyway. After i shot them i would find the nest and stomp the eggs.
>implying harpies have sentients.
>implying harpies have feelings.
I fail to see how. they wont be a threat when shrunken and put into jars. Personally i would just kill them.
They normally do. They are mindless animals. Building a nest doesn't make you intelligent. birds do that shit. Harpies are just monsters made to be killed.
Luis Reed
>They are mindless animals. Int 5-7 is not 'mindless animal' tier. It's 'village retard' tier.
James Morales
sorry i meant so slight of intelligence that they are still worthless animals without feelings made to be killed.
David Brooks
Yet a PC with 8 INT who murders 98% of the creatures he encounters isn't?
Henry Wilson
Of coarse he is a person not an animal. I fail to see what your trying to imply? That harpies are not animals? but weeaboo they is. now stop defending your wafiu. Also anyone with 8 int cant make a good char.
Jordan Cruz
>playing as a warforged because "muh FMA" Now who's the weeb, weeb?
Jacob Jenkins
>Spends most of their time in the wild >Resorts to violence at the slightest provocation >Murders indiscriminately >Steals from everyone they kill >Apathetic to anyone who isn't useful >Has the power to raze a small village to the ground
The only thing separating a PC from a monster is class levels, and even that's not much of a distinction depending on the edition.
Glass houses, throwing stones, etc. etc.
Nathaniel Myers
i dont see how you got me playing a warforged from that. ive never played one. its not even on my characters to play list. >making random implications without any logic or intelligence behind it. whos the weeaboo harpy? you weeaboo harpy. oh im sorry, harpies couldn't figure out computers your just a normal human dumbass.
you have proven worthless like this thread im out.
Asher Ross
You're the one who said he wasn't an animal. And since dryads aren't usually playable...
Sebastian King
>weeaboo harpy >weeaboo You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means
Aaron Jenkins
Stop talking like you actually understand the system when you don't, user. Unless you're baiting, in which case that's low quality bait. Harpies are not even of the Animal type, they're Monstrous Humanoids. That grants them even a different attack bonus. And monsters don't even always have the stats that are shown in their sheets. That's just the standard stat array with racial bonuses on top of them, which means they actually have above-average Wisdom. Learn2Lore
Levi Smith
What motivates the players to care?
Do the harpies attack if they are displeased?
Do the harpies reward the players with items if they are pleased?
If all you risk the approval or disapproval of some background NPCs, then they are irrelevant.
Grayson Watson
>avoiding the laughter of harpies >significant motivation Pick one, OP. It might not be so for permavirgin losers like you, but for the rest of us being laughed at by girls isn't the end of the fucking world.
Samuel James
>Harpies >Innocent Choose one.
Alexander Smith
This.
>You finally dispatch the bandits, none too gracefully. You hear giggling coming from a nearby tree, turning to look you see several birds that have faces of humanoid females, laughing at your clumsy handling of the bandits. What do you do? "We loot the bodies and move on." OR "Rolling to hit."
Camden Ward
Is this some kind of misguided attempt to look tough and hardened on an anonymous image board?
Eli Green
>kobolds give adventurers multiple warnings to stay out of their tunnels.
>orcish raiders steal only livestock, harm no one despite waving their axes around threateningly.
>in the middle of the night, a dozen goblins show up and stare at the party's campfire.
>ghoul politely informs the party he'll be following them, "just in case."
Camden Bennett
..why the fuck did people even respond to what is obviously a retard or a troll?
Luis Lopez
sometimes chewing bait is fun
Isaiah Murphy
>user kills shit thread by triggering retards A real hero
Xavier Cook
I liked all of those.
Brayden Bell
They paddle people's asses with yaoi paddles, I guess?
Dylan Rodriguez
>not understanding the difference between sapience and sentience. Dictionary nigga, go get one.
Jackson Kelly
Have a useless meter that displays the hero´s life expectancy. Have it go down when her HP drops bellow a certain point.
Easton Wood
Or "sophonts".
Levi Scott
>filename
Julian Gonzalez
Are your players Matt, Pat, Liam, and Wooly?
Jonathan Hall
I'm legitimately dissapointed. I didn't even like Bernie, but I didn't think he'd endorse Hillary.
Ryan Rodriguez
I had the players get lost in the woods and then stay the night at a house belonging to three completely normal sweet old ladies. They went full PC and snuck around at night breaking into stuff to see what was going on. Turns out sweet old ladies were just that and totally guilt tripped the players the next day for breaking into their toolshed
although it is going to turn out eventually that they were really spider witches and laid eggs in one of the players brains
Justin Foster
Do these Harpies gossip and spread rumours?
Joshua Gray
>You'll never play a tabletop game with Woolie
Lucas Clark
>Pat's Mom as a mid-campaign encounter
stat her, Veeky Forums
John Morris
Some people do not have neurosis about girls making fun of them held over from their high school days In fact, none of my current primary OR secondary player groups do....
James Phillips
Not if you gag them.
Aiden Gray
Yeah, it came as a huge surprise to kids who only became aware of him after he became an internet meme and don't pay any attention to politics beyond that. To those who have actually observed his poitical career before said internet fandom happens, not so much.
But this isn't the board for that.
Luis Brooks
It's weird, because the only people who haven't actually cared about these things in my experience ARE the permavergins. The ones concerned with picking up chicks care a lot about girls watching.
Nicholas Rodriguez
fuck, how did you know?
Colton Mitchell
well, what neurosises do they have, and what do you use to fuck with them?
Jeremiah Baker
>shadow bullshit There's just WAY too much stuff in media about how shadows will fuck you up for that to go unchecked.
Oliver Kelly
Lol, I would kill the harpies...
Jonathan Fisher
>loli succubus
Pedofags aside. There's nothing more dangerous to the players' collective psyche than the idea that they can redeem others. That they can still 'save' her, that she's still young and doesn't know any better.
It started innocently enough. Party came across the succubus after defeating a cabal of warlocks. Paladin wanted to banish her initially, but was swayed when the succubus began crying explained that she ran away from home to escape her mother and sister who plan to sell her to a minor demon lord's harem. After a long sob story, the players bought it and accept her into the group. That's when the fun begins.
After a few adventures together, the party eventually came to see her as the group mascot. The cute little loli cheering at every action no matter how cruel and violent it is. The players just rationalize that she's just 'naive' to the mortal plane's ways, nothing that can't be hammered out by good parenting. They became even more attached to her after banishing her sister, who tried to seduce the paladin and bring our succubus home. Which just makes it more delicious when the paladin's order got involved. Long story short, paladin was stripped of his ranks and titles with the entire party on the run from the authorities. Worse still, the link between our world and the lower planes began to weaken threatening to drag her back to the abyss.
Lucas Wright
>cont
However, the loli conveniently inform the party that there's a collection of artifacts that can help her maintain her bond with the physical plane. After a long search and lots of reckless alignment shifting decisions the party finally gathered the pieces of the ancient. And what comes next is a scene ripped strait of the ending of Berserk's golden age arch. The succubus ascended to a demon lord and thanks the party by dragging them to hell. She then ate her mother and sold her sister to the devils as a camp follower.
The party almost rage quit, before I showed them my notes. They may be in hell, but that just means the succubus is also there with them. And there's nothing to stop them from carving the bloody path through Dis itself in their quest for vengeance.
Though, it's kinda hypocritical that I plan to turn the succubus's sister into Casca + Fall From Grace.
Brayden Perry
but was the sob story true?
Robert Ortiz
I think this goes way beyond normal harmless psychological fuckery, user. Especially the part where BERSERK HAPPENS. Kudos still.
Isaiah Edwards
Literally the most relevant use of the owlbear statblock
Evan Russell
It's true, just because you're born from chaos and evil doesn't mean shitty things can't happen to you.
Christian Miller
>just because you're born from chaos and evil doesn't mean shitty things can't happen to you. Like having the misfortune of being born from chaos and evil.
Luke Cook
wow thats pretty rude, i mean they made her a demon lord and got her all stronk and everything, even if she is an evil little shit; thats just waiting to get murderhobo'd hard by a pack of pissed off adventurers.
Jack James
>but weaboo they is. Are... are you OK?
Kayden Hall
Some of us are not jacked into the matrix 24/7.
Logan Morris
My playes would probably a find a way to rape them.