Imperium Asunder

>loyalist marines screaming "Death to the false emperor!"

This setting rules.

Not true, Phosphex is worse for the enviroment than radiation or any other poison the Imperium has. It seeks out movement too, so it could get into every nook and cranny.

I thought it was just white phosphorous. I should really download a 30k book one of these days.

>fire and radiation immunity.

you're only making it stronger!

I mean, yeah. They basically just all became desert creatures. So instead of your Catachan devils hiding in the undergrowth, they're just under the shifting sands.

Phosphex has the capacity to burn without oxygen and with next to no fuel source. It is capable of burning underwater (being also able to set water alight) and can burn through solid rock, adamantium, and ceramite. Known as the 'living fire', 'crawling death' and 'ice-fire' due to its attraction to movement and sub-zero burning temperature, once unleashed the green cloud of Phosphex expands exponentially, burning everything in its path. The taint of Phosphex residue is far more enduring even than radiation from nuclear fallout, rendering any area exposed to its touch uninhabitable. During the Great Crusade, not even the Death Guard would use it in any but the most extreme circumstances, and even then only on the order of the Legion's most senior commanders.

Wouldn't it then just literally burn the entire planet up?

It needs no oxygen, and (almost) no fuel. So when does it stop? It burns everything so it would continue to burn until only it was left no?

>They basically just all became desert creatures.

We already have Tallarn thanks.

Tallarn only became a desert because the Iron Warriors virus bombed it during the Heresy. Which, I now realize, makes this whole Second Sons doing it thing kind of derivative. Though they do it for totally different reasons.

It goes out when the actual phosphex chemical is all burned away. It still lights regular stuff on fire, but that obviously will go out normally.

>Wouldn't it then just literally burn the entire planet up?
Yes. Like the Red Death virus bombs, it's a weapon designed to exterminate all life.

I mean, like the planet itself. As in where once was a planet, now there is no longer a planet.

Once the phosphex runs out there's no more fire.

Lexicanum implies that it needs carbon to burn.

No death for the weary souls of this blasted place. Not yet.

slow thread is slow

Is this the Asura/Tiger Claws or whatever from last thread? Did you draw this yourself?

Naw, they're just a homebrew chapter I've been working on for a long while. I got that done in a drawthread a few months back. I have no artistic talent or skill.

we should get a drawfag in here

If you could ever find the guy who illustrated all the Hektort Heresy Primarchs that would be a massive boon for you.

Unyielding, unwavering, undying.

With the unpopular/controversial decision to make Catachan an ash wasteland might I suggest a failed exterminates of Catachan that turned it into Ash Hell for all of 3 months before it reverted back to Greenhouse Hell.

Maccragge could have been give the BURN ALL OFTHE THINGS treatment. Maccragge is no Arrakis. For added Dune influence have it house the biggest concentration of Navigator Houses in the eastern half of the galaxy.

Catachan is where the forces of the Dark Imperium got to make a name for themselves. If they can survive any real amount of time on the surface then they are hard as fuck and everyone knows it. They have to contend with the dinosaurs, ants, diseases, carnivorous trees, everything is poisonous or venomous or predatory, exploding toads, mutants, ancient feral tyrannid breeds, big flying things that carry off cows, spiders the size of cars, orkoids of every variation, ogyrn, psychic ogyrns, the most unlucky gene-stealer cults in the galaxy, ork gene-stealers (bug boyz) and worst of all the humans.

It's also suspected that the planet may have some sort of weak hive mind going on. Nothing ever proven.

The Catachan Shaman are also known to summon deamons. Unlike the forces of Chaos who lure and bribe and make deals with otherworldly things the Catachan psykers beat the shit out of the deamons with mind bullets until the thing learns who is wearing the pants in this relationship. Their attitude is that deamons should know their place and come when called.

This makes Catachans prized allies and mercenaries. Problem is that once they start fighting it becomes difficult to get them to stop.

When they see that you needed their help they see you as weak and they challenge you for the right to rule.

This has led to a number of interplanetary catachan empires. None lasting more than about 30 years at most. Lasting effects of catachan on an interstellar scale is the propagation of their Small Gods faith and the spread of Catachan genetic material.

I believe that Macragge has been renamed and is the capital of Imperiun Minorum.

Any other famous planets in that part of space we could make into Arrakis?

Tellaran this time round is a walled garden and jewel of the Kor Protectorate.

Does it have to be in the galactic east? Tallarn is in the Unyielding Vigil near the firewall. You could also just make your own planet.

Regardless of whether or not it will actually be Catachan that is permanently a desert, it should have to be a planet that is similarly notable for it's life/verdant nature. In canon, Tallarn was a beautiful agri-world before the Iron Warriors destroyed it.

Though, I don't think I've actually heard anyone complaining about it being Catachan. In this thread or the last one.

In the last thread towards there was some disagreement on whether from at least 2 anons.

Did we figure out which of the loyalist Legions was sent to bring Kor and his Legion back into line?

If it was a plot by the Warmaster, could it be possible that they ended up stationed toward the galactic east, to keep Anders hemmed in, meaning they had even further to trek when the Heresy took place?

What do you mean? Kor didn't go renegade until after the Heresy, so nobody would be "sent" to take care of the Paladins. Before then he was just a pain in the ass.

Oh, really?

The timeline on the wiki has them going renegade prior to the Tournament. I guess that's in need of updating.

Yeah, we realized a little while ago that what I was saying and what I meant were completely different things. Anders is just has a little rebellious streak, and is always "busy" when the Emperor wants him to do something.

How the Crusaders travel the warp without the Astronomicon or chaos sorcerers to guide them?

Psychic lighthouses on various systems. They work in the same way as the golden throne in that you need to sacrifice psykers to them, but ships can't go nearly as far in one go.

I've been busy in the last few days but the wiki page for the Storm Hammers will get finished eventually.

I'd make a page for the Scions myself but I'm terrible at formatting.

By the way in case people wonder 'well what do the Storm Hammers DO in the setting today': you are right, that IS a good question as at times it seems like their empire is 'just there'. And you are entirely and utterly right to believe that!

They are there to crusade. They are there to wreck shit and try to retake the Imperium. I don't think they really need some higher purpose in the story since I feel they are evocative enough to be interesting (when they actually do get fleshed out and aren't reduced to 'those blue hammer dudes'). Its like asking why certain Space Marine chapters really exist in the canon lore: they exist because its cool. If we go, with the Imperium Asunder project, with the assumption of a certain status quo then the Storm Hammers fit right in. They are heroic. They are tragic. They, in fact, fucked up more than once and even lost their Primarch yet they keep fighting.

Just like the other Crusader States, they embody that potentially foolish and pointless dream of an Imperium the Emperor once had.

Do the assassin temples still exist? Given that were created by Malcador I doubt they'd go over to the Warmaster after Terra.

Hey, been a busy past few days. What did I miss and what needs doing?

Also I need to finish that story.

VANTH wrote some stuff up for the Giant Slayers, now called the Negators. We had a discussion about a resurgent Eldar empire and whether Catachan got phosphexed or not.

I'm thinking that the Jade Empire keeps them well stocked, out of old bonds, but also because the Storm Hammers keep the pressure off.
I'd assume so. Traitors probably have parallel institutions.

Possible timeline for the Eldar Empire stuff:

Late M37
>Biel-Tan moves to defend various Exodite worlds scattered across several sectors of Segmentum Tempestus. They find themselves drawn into an arduous campaign that feels like putting out fires.
Early M38
>Corsair Fleets begin to arrive in the beleaguered sectors in greater numbers, drawn by romantic notions of Biel-Tan's constant struggle.
Late M38
>More and more Exodites begin to abandon their lifestyles, joining Biel-Tan in the hopes of defending their homes. The beginnings of industrial capacity sprout across the less conservative worlds.
Early M39
>In an unprecedented move, Craftworld Mymeara declares its intent to assist Biel-Tan. It is soon followed by Craftworld Lugganath.
Mid M39
>The first rumblings of a resurgent Eldar Empire begin to spread.
>Corsairs arrive in greater numbers, and begin the first tentative trade agreements with the Webway Satellites.
Late M39
>Stirred by the awakening of Idrias Stern, the Undying Scions launch a crusade across the Segmentum. They crash into the tenuous Eldar territories, resulting a drawn-out, bloody war.
>Eventually, the crusade is driven back, but at great cost, Biel-Tan losing well over half its population. Incensed with rage and the swell of victory, Biel-Tan declares a resurgent Eldar Empire.
>By now few traditional Exodites remain, their worlds having to advance in order to survive. Massive industrial projects spring up across the Eldar territories and, to make up for their losses, the newborn empire produces wraith constructs on a massive scale, ensuring that every fallen Eldar can fight for their people.

Early M40
>Iyanden, Idharae, Iybraesil, Telennar and Mynathensar join the allied craftworlds.
>A Corsair fleet of unprecedented size tears its fangs across the western edge of the Undying Vigil, wreaking a terrible vengeance.
>As the Empire fights to secure its borders, Muirthandril, a Seer of Craftworld Mymeara, experiences a vision, and sets out with his fleet.
Mid M40
>Muirthandril's expedition recovers an ancient Vaul Engine, known to humans as Blackstone Fortress. Spurred by further visions, the forces of the Empire move to secure various other such stations littered through the Orphus Sector of the Segmentum.
>Muirthrandril is not alone in this prediction, and the Eldar find themselves once again faced with the forces of the Undying Vigil. The Orphic Wars begin over the seven Blackstone Fortresses abandoned throughout the sector. There are heroes on both sides - the Vigil will forever remember Brother Estram Yorick, Interred after acting as a lone vanguard to his Brothers, and to this day Hemlock ace Jhainen Khaine-Handed is celebrated for her achievements by the Eldar Empire.
>Mynathensar is rendered inhospitable, and its survivors (the living and the enshrined) are evacuated before Autarch Vaeleryss sets the craftworld on a collision course with the nearby world of Provinus IX, annihilating the Vigil forces regrouping there and cracking the planet's mantle
>The war concludes with six of the Fortresses in Eldar hands, but the seventh is destroyed in a daring boarding action by Idrias Stern, who fells Muirthandril in the process. The Farseer is saved by the timely intervention of a Solitaire, but much of his body is replaced with wraithbone prosthetics.

Late M40
>The Vaul Engines are stationed on the eastern edge of the Empire. Together, they form a region of veiled space where conventional Warp travel is even more difficult. Without the seventh Fortress, however, there is a small gap in this net.
>More and more advanced Commorrite technology begins to reach the Empire, many planets beginning to resemble the worlds of the old Empire
>Prince Uriel pushes back Waaagh! Gnarlgut, which proceeds to smash into a sector where the Behemoth Guard are establishing a number of forward bases. Two enemies are dealt with in a single blow, but the Seers fear that Gnarlgut will return with an even greater horde.
>A troupe of Harlequins deliver an unknown artifact of the Old Empire into the hands of Lugganath's Seer Council. There is much discussion, but none of it is public.
>Farseer Muirthrandil's prosthesis begin to fail, and his spirit is interred in a wraithseer shell.

Early M41
>Waaagh! Gnarlgut returns, savaging several systems before being turned away by a vast ghost legion of wraith constructs.
>Many Corsairs begin establishing satellite abodes beyond the established borders of the Empire. They are bawdy and lawless by craftworlder standards, and continually draw the Empire into squabbles with minor powers. They also begin to employ a great many alien mercenaries.
>The first forays into the use of automated, non wraith-guided constructs are made in secret, based on designs scrapped together in trade with various Webway States
Mid M41
The raiding activities of a Corsair Princedom draw the Empire into yet another conflict with the Undying Vigil. The war quickly escalates, more Corsairs joining the fray, spurred by the ancestral bloodlust of the Eldar.
>Wraithseer Muirthandril leads a considerable ghost legion to support the outlier Corsair territories, and once again faces Idrias Stern in battle, this time on an equal footing
>The conflict is interrupted when a tendril of Hive Fleet Leviathan tears through the Tempestus. Both forces find themselves struggling to survive against an utterly alien foe, and ultimately withdraw to reinforce their own borders.

...and that's all I've got so far.

I need to change my underwear. MOAR!

Bad ass. I imagine that the Jade Empire, being far away from Tempestus and wanting to hamper traitor expansion is supportive of Bel-Tain and the corsair, putting them in an awkward position when they come into conflict with the Undying Vigil.

>I remember their names, the fallen. All of them. Not those interred in dreadnought sarcophagi, for they are not truly lost to us. I remember those torn from life entirely in one fell swoop by the arms of the Ork savage, the Traitorous slave, the Eldar witch. When a titan falls, I remember them too. Their names echo in my head when the Legion is called to war, a private litany of vengeance that steels the mind in preparation for battle.

-from the memoirs of Captain Venthros, senior councilor of the Faranin system.

Late M1
>Spread out by its initial contact with Idrias' and Muirthandil's forces, the Tyranid swarm continues to wreak havoc on isolated systems throughout the Segmentum. Considerable resources have to be diverted to keep the swarm from growing.
>The ripples of a terrible premonition stir the minds of the Seer Council. They fear the worst.
>A cadre of Warp Raiders attempt to plunder Lugganath for its artifacts. They make off with a number of rare items before being expelled, and brutally dismember the eldest of the craftworld's Seer Council, but the true object of their search, a wonder of the Black Library, is swapped for a replica. It explodes in Warpspace, shredding one of the Warp Raider vessels and hurling its crew to the mercies of the Immaterium.
>A Chaos Cult is uprooted on the border world of Israbael. The planet is plunged into civil war, the traitors having even infiltrated its Seer Council and much of its warhost. Eventually, the planet is abandoned when the cultists re-purpose its Webway gates to draw their infernal masters from the Warp. The Empire scrabbles to investigate any and all possibilities of similar Chaos corruption. Many Corsair Princes face such accusations, and react with indignation. A secretive circle of Warlocks with previous ranger or Scorpion experience is formed to watch their realms from the shadows and strike down any hint of corruption.

uhh, that should read 'Late M41'

Early M2
>Jhainen Khaine-Handed, a hero thought killed in a controlled distort detonation, emerges from the Warp, initially believing herself gone for merely a year. She immediately sets out in her Hemlock fighter, pursuing some unknown cause.
>Forces of the Extropian Collective are reported to be preying upon isolated worlds at the very edge of the Empire. Gathering a hundred Corsair Fleets, Prince Uriel hunts these vultures back to their own territories. He is joined by the forces of Duke Sliscus, and the two persecute a bloody campaign of revenge and/or enjoyment against the Collective's outer territories, withdrawing only when they are certain that the Extropians will reconsider their aggression.
>As prior visions of doom begin to crystallize into a definite form, twin Farseers Sgathaich and Aoifea deliver a message to Commorragh through their Corsair intermediaries
>Catastrophe strikes in the form of a Dark Crusade. The Forces of Chaos rampage through Segmentum Tempestus, the Crusader States amassing their full force to counter the wave of death. In the midst of the Crusade, forces belonging to the Silver Spears besiege the western worlds of the Empire. As the Dark Crusade is gradually driven back across the upper Tempestus, more and more Chaos Marines join their brothers in the assault.
>Intent on carving through the Empire and securing further tracts of the Segmentum, the Undying Scions launch another attack from the galactic east. The Empire is caught between two vying forces, both intent on grinding it to dust and fighting for supremacy atop its ashes. Only minimal forces can be redirected from the galactic west, but Wraithseer Muirthrandil spearheads the counter-offensive, sensing the hand of his old foe Idrias.

That picture might be the coolest thing i've ever seen.

More Early M42
>While the warhosts mobilized to the west begin to push back the forces of Chaos, the Undying Scions tear through the satellite Corsair states in the east, the defense steadily losing ground. When it seems that the Scions will soon breach the Blackstone Array and penetrate deep into the heartlands of the Empire, the Eldar forces dig in, determined to hold the line, choosing to lay down their lives to grant their comrades in the west even a tiny morsel of time. Determined to inflict as much damage as possible upon the Scions, they take the conflict to new heights of brutality.
>On the world of Ikarius II (Rhondgromryn to the Eldar), Muirthandil and Idrias meet once again, but again, their feud is interrupted. Stirred by Sgathaich and Aoifea's promise that Sarco Funerus would be present, a full compliment of Negators descend upon the world, the Giantslayer himself at their fore. A maelstrom of blood and carnage envelops the planet.
>Eventually realizing that he has been tricked, Aodhán explodes into a furious rage, distraught at Sarco's absence, howling for his brother. His Legions rampage across the sector, battling Eldar and Astartes alike, until a tenuous alliance sees Idrias and Muirthrandil leading a vast host of venerable giants against the Warp-touched Primarch. Eventually overcome, a sullen Aodhán withdraws to his flagship, the Resolute Will, departing the sector. In a fit of spite, he tracks down Sgathaich and Aoifea in their personal vessel and returns to the Webway with them in tow, claiming them as payment for his services.
>Both sides still licking their wounds, the Scions and Muirthrandil's forces retreat, leaving a decimated system in their wake. The Eldar still in fighting shape move to reinforce their comrades in the west, and the forces of Chaos are finally fought to a standstill.
>Somewhere in the Webway, Eldrad Ulthran keks heartily.

God dammit I fucked up again.

That should be 'Early M42'.

Haha is your keyboard sticky or something?

How do you guys feel about sniper dreadnoughts?

Nah, I'm just a twat apparently.

I could get used to the idea of sniper dreadnoughts. The concept reminds me of those long-range dread patterns FW puts out.

Rifleman Dreads are a thing

The deredeo is actually what made me want to create OC 'naughts. I can't decide what they'd be used for though, because most combat niches are filled by an existing pattern.

I imagine you're thinking of something with a suped up lascannon? Low mobility, one extremely large, long-ranged las weapon, lots of targeting systems, etc...

Yeah, something like that. Doesn't really fit the Scions' siege doctrine though.

If you're manning a wall long-range weapons are pretty useful.

Anyone here?

Hello.

Samson returns.

How's it been? I think that while you were gone we decided that you should rename the Hekatonkires, but I don't remember the proposed replacement names.

Someone posted ideas about a chaos legion with !Indian (red dot kind) culture and a focus on daemonic posession, with imagery based around indian mythological Asura, many-armed dudes. Thus the connection to hekatonkires was born.

Another user suggested that they worked as a re-design of the Hekatonkires, but that both Asura and Hekatonkire share the problem that you have to explain to the reader what the fuck those things are. He suggested Tiger Claws or something.

I could totally see a Daemon Primarch based on Asura.

The name stays.

I'm neutral on this, so I'll let you hash it out with the people who were talking about it.

It's been a while so I don't think I know the arguments. What was their reasoning?

I think it was something about naming conventions for the legions. All the others are in English and it's a little jarring to have one in Greek.

Oh right.

The Greek thing is true, but in reality there is no naming convention besides being English.

So is this basically "if Horus won the heresy"? Or does it have original Space Marine chapters like that other tg project?

The latter.

>The Greek thing is true, but in reality there is no naming convention besides being English.
So comply with the literally one that exists?

both

>So comply with the literally one that exists?
Why?

To be fair, Hundred-handed-ones is kind of an awkward name in English.

Think about it. Every single time someone wants to writefag about the hekkauniquenames, they have to dedicate two or three sentences to explain what the fuck one is. That's not a good idea in a medium that's 99% writing. Additionally, there's a lore presumption that the dialogue of the setting is translated to english for the reader's sake. The Word Bearers aren't colchisian, and we don't have to read dialogue in the mangled latin of Gothic.

The Hundred Arms?

1d4chan.org/wiki/Imperium_Asunder#Timeline

edited it a little bit.

Any feedback for this?

What if their homeworld is called Asura?
>Asuran Warriors
>Arms of Asura

>Arms of Asura
I like that one.

Good stuff. The comment about Titans made me think maybe the Scions would also support a number of titan legions and knight houses. Big mech guys gotta stick together, right?

What did you think of my bloodhounds writefaggotry?

Yeah, it's got a ring to it. The Asuran user proposed an orange paintscheme, which is why Tiger Claws got suggested. It's definitely better than the clowny pink one.

>Think about it. Every single time someone wants to writefag about the hekkauniquenames, they have to dedicate two or three sentences to explain what the fuck one is.
Not unless I'm explaining why they're named that, which I only have to do once on the Hekatonkires page. Writers don't have to explain what basilisks are, or why the chapter of black pyromaniacs is named after an amphibian.

Not to mention the shitton of chapters that use words you've never heard of.

>The Hundred Arms?
Not as good as Hundred Hands.

I once had an idea for a legion based on India called the Asura Tears. Their mutation was weird vestigial limbs that sprouted from random parted of their backs, which they lopped off and replaced with mechadendrites.

Their primarch also had six arms.

So, to paraphrase this and what I read in the last thread,

Legio ###: The Arms of Asura
>Six-armed primarch
>homeworld worshiped chaos long ago
>Join Warmaster
>Become obsessed with ritual posession
>Their marines are many-armed posessed marine monstrosities
>Tzeentchy?
>Animistic cultish organization, like the Tiger Clan, Elephant Clan, shit like that
>!Indian culture

I liked it, but who was the fleet entering the system? Was I correct in thinking the daggers were athame blades? Speaking of the anathame, do the Interex exist in this setting?

>who was the fleet entering the system?
Stay tuned to for more to find out.

>Was I correct in thinking the daggers were athame blades? Speaking of the anathame, do the Interex exist in this setting?
Yeah, they're athames. Nobody's talked about the Interex/Kinebrach but I brought up a while ago that Athames are thematically interesting in the hands of a hunter-themed legion. I thought it would be interesting to not explain where the blades came from, as if they were just more trophies like the ones on the wall. Presumably the Bloodhounds expeditionary fleet came upon the Interex and play nice like Horus did.

Maybe the Marines first get possessed when they wear furs that were skinned using an athame.

That sounds cool. Who's working on this?

Me I guess.