There was an awesome thread here on Saturday about Stranger Things, the new Netflix weird retro-80s horror show, but I missed most of it and I can't find it in 4plebs.
So...Stranger Things. Awesome SCP/Delta Green show, or bad 80s nostalgia?
Would you play as the Cop or the Kids? Would DG be better or Monsters & Other Childish Things?
Well, I tried anyway. Awesome 80s nostalgia, no bad SCP wank.
MaOCT could work nicely. But I'd use Nemesis and just crib the stats and relationship track from MaOCT. That sheet is fine! But I'd like some UA madness.
The story needs work. Some parts are great for roleplaying, but there are issues. I'd want the entire story to unfold around the party, not a sister whose adventures they only hear about before the showdown. The third act is too simple for gaming, And I'd want a new mystery anyway, something that the show didn't spoil.
Christopher Walker
>MaOCT Pardon, but what is this you're referring to?
Aiden Mitchell
>Well, I tried anyway. > →
I was referring to a different thread, much longer. Maybe it had a different name or something.
Parker Johnson
Monsters and Other Childish Things, as mentioned above.
Josiah Wright
>an awesome thread
mkay?
Ian Walker
>retro-80s
Sigh.
Eli Sullivan
In 30 years some kid will complain about your millennial childhood nostalgia, completely ignoring how any redeeming quality of their favorite show would have been impossible without its influence.
Parker Perry
Good thing I didn't care much for a lot what was on when I was kid.
Grayson Anderson
Is this the Vale of Shadows they refer to in the show?
Really the biggest issue overall is to introduce innocent romantic themes but keep them PG and without pervy double meaning.
David Walker
They make up their own simple cosmology as they go along, much like Donnie Darko.
Cooper Evans
The kids were well done. Flawed, not too smarmy and prone to fear and mistakes, just like real kids.
Jonathan Hall
Winona is still hot.
Hudson Garcia
So related!
But let's fix that real quick.
Asher King
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Jaxson Bailey
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Levi Nelson
Some of these references are great.
Angel Gonzalez
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Dominic Hernandez
It's not just a reference. It's the plot structure. It starts with the game. The game is used to explain the cosmology. And they title the unnamed monster after the BBEG from the game.
Kayden Ramirez
Pick a concept:
>Experiment +powers -savvy
>Gearhead +gadgets -cool
>Tough Guy +fists -temper
>People Person +empathy -courage
>Tomboy +savvy -confidence
>Twinky +indestructible -speed
Andrew Hernandez
The science teacher's Acrobat/Flea is used to describe the cosmology and travel therein.
Chase Scott
Can we talk about how their science teacher is literally the most over qualified fucker to ever live?
The guy understood multidimensional theory and knew how to make a sensory deprivation chamber on the spot.
Lucas Clark
Yup. The next Walter White...except for interdimensional physics.
Can we also talk about how this relates to Beyond the Black Rainbow?
And then the kid who got that info explains it to his friends deciphering the lost kid's (Will I think) message: The dark side of the game board, the flipside, the underside.
Jacob Murphy
Someone needs to make a gif of when lucas shoots the monster with the slingshot in the last episode. I need it so I can use it in filename threads.
Mason Walker
Shouldn't this be on /tv/ not Veeky Forums?
Kevin Wright
I bet you hate fun
Connor Williams
Just finished the season. Pleasantly surprised that I really liked it.
Ryder Perez
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Andrew Perry
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Lucas Torres
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Blake Ward
so is the upside down an alternate reality where that biomass killed everyone, or is it just a reflection of our world?
>captcha: select all bicycles appropriate
Austin Powell
It is a mirror. It is derived from our world. There are abandoned houses there, the same houses like on our side. Nobody built them. They're just there.
Matthew White
Speaking of mirrors, does Black Mirror get any better after the first episode? I didn't like that one.
Mason Bailey
Oooh! Black Mirror is awesome!
Every episode is its own movie basically. Different cast, different world, different issue.
It is a bit overtly contrived. But it does a good job of still making it a dramaturgy, not a lecture. You have to like that analytical perspective though, it's not a show to have on in the background while on the internet.
I love how the pigfucker episode was revealed as actual fact, in a way.
>That ending >Coroner Arrested For Falsifying Evidence >Fuckers blamed everything on the CORONER
Liam Nguyen
This like Delta Green the show?
Jonathan Russell
any ideas what the biomass or monster are or where they come from?
Jason Miller
also like the prequel to cabin in the woods
Sebastian Perry
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Bentley Scott
>yfw the "Upside Down" is the Ethereal Plane
Cameron Cruz
I meant Shadowfell, sorry.
Hunter Miller
To bring a little original Twin Peaks into this:
Everything, literally everything is ripe with symbolism. Any names, the town geography, NPC secrets and obsessions, secret economies of money and power, any deaths, and even the weather. The trick is to make some pretty literal and others quite abstract, keep the players guessing.
NPC constellation has a lot to do with this. Every character has reasons for their actions. The phenomenological result may seem strange, even ironic. But if they dig deep enough the party can always discover an inner world where it all makes perfect sense. Only this inner world is concealed by secrets, guilt, and fear. And the outward appearance it creates is off putting.
Now put those secret inner worlds in conflict, and you have a story. Layer it. There are many little secrets (shame), a few big secrets (felonies), and one huge secret nobody even really knows (the root of all evil) but the players can reconstruct by combining clues from different sources.
With the themes of secret government experiments on children with magic powers and another parallel world where powerful evil dwells there's a lot of room for developing an original story and real mysteries.
Carter Miller
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Zachary Wilson
A Sentionaut would have made for a waaaay cooler monster than what they had.
Also in my head canon Arboria is the idealistic precursor to the program in stranger things. It turned out the research was no good at making mankind more spiritually fulfilled but DID show potential for killing commies. When a door closes a window opens.
Tyler Cox
well my brother kept telling me to watch this and i was like "meh whatever" but these beyond the black rainbow comparisons are really convincinb me
Noah White
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Xavier James
It's a really REALLY slow movie, if you're not into that it's going to suck hard.
Primarily BtBR is a mood piece. The director had his own ideas in mind when he made it and for better or worse he stuck to his vision. It's almost the sort of thing you have to watch off-handendly or accidentally to get the proper effect. What I'm saying is it's not meant to be approachable.
It's probably the most accessable of the non-approachable movies out there but don't expect the same thing your getting from Stranger Things. They use some similar concepts but are total opposites in terms of style.
But if you want something steady and slightly psychedelic and if old-school parapsychological experiments get you all hot and bothered, you can't go wrong.
Gavin Flores
OH SORRY i meant i've seen beyond the black rainbow, and my brother kept trying to get me to watch this show (stranger things)! your review is scaring me a bit but i'll still give episode one a shot. i love beyond the black rainbow.
Anthony Scott
Well it's worth a go. It's one of the few 80s nostalgia movies that actually seems to have genuine care put into. It's pretty much a Spielberg film from that period in a miniseries format. The story isn't anything new but it's presented very well. The acting, direction, visuals and sound are all excellent. It's kind of a charming snack compared Rainbow's heady, appalachian meat'n'whisky stew
Personally I like Black Rainbow and Stranger Things but for completely different reasons.
Although neither are particularly concerned with plot and both are trying to evoke a certain state of mind more than anything. Two totally different states of mind but still...
I guess the best audience to cross over between the two is the one that likes to to be dunked in a bucket of feelings and ideas. The only difference is one bucket is full of warm salt water and the other with black mystery goo.
The audience who would definitely hate both would be the one that wants to be delivered a story. One will seem rehashed and the thin.
Jordan Lewis
Nice post, man. Question: Is there a book that helps people out in making lynchian worlds?
Jonathan Ross
Ask YT?
Sebastian Edwards
>viral marketing won't be successful without complete saturation.
Brody Reed
Who here /steve/?
Sebastian Foster
In a more general sense, how would you run a supernatural coming of age story al-a Stranger Things, IT, Goonies. I want to run a MaOCT campaign with similar things but I have DM block. All the PCs have pet monsters in the setting, maybe every person
Carter Harris
Steve's ugly, only fuckable guys in the show are his friend, the diner guy and the kid with no teeth