>I was recently disappointed to learn that, contrary to the assertion of my 10th-grade English teacher, "Darth Vader" does not actually mean "Dark Father" in Dutch. That would be Donker Vader, which somehow doesn't have the same je ne sais quoi.
That sometimes having fun is more important than being correct or sticking true to the source material.
Connor Sullivan
That the prevalence of autism within this hobby has been under-reported and needs to be addressed, more specifically it needs to lead to genuine change in the manner of expelling these mongoloids from the hobby.
Alexander Cruz
>which somehow doesn't have the same je ne sais quoi. >What lessons can we draw from this? That you should not mix multiple languages in a single name or a sentence.
Robert Gray
Duister Vader would also work dunno what that'd sound like in your head though
Ryan Reed
>mfw he's called Dark Vador here.
Jordan Cox
Wait, what?
I always thought the Sith names were words with negative connotations that had been pruned a bit to make it sound like a real name.
I.E. Darth "Vader" =Invader Darth Sidious = Insidious Darth Maul = Well, you get that one Darth Revan = Revenant
Etc. Etc. Don't tell me that their names were some RWBY tier "it means black in french" bullshit
Nolan Carter
>Be a kid >Call him Dark Vader >Call light-sabers life-savers
Jaxon Bennett
That she got no meat. Literally she's a twig.
Levi Powell
Well it's not like Vader had much meat on his arms either
Charles Perry
That authority figures blatantly abuse their power and lie to make themselves seem worthy of their position and thus are not worthy of the trust or respect they demand until they prove on a case by case basis to be worthy or such.
Joshua Peterson
I mean he had some meat. Like enough to say he had some muscles. She on other hand, she got nothing.
Mason Cox
If OP is serious that is sad. If he is not then well played.
Levi Moore
"Jabba the Hutt" means "Frog the Snake" in Czech.
Kevin Phillips
There's no lesson to draw from this,just suck it up as i did. I was dissapointed tok when i found out as a young dutchling.
Camden Gray
Solo means alone
'Han Solo' means 'Han the Lone One' which is a reference to his roguish background and its 'no honor among thieves' / 'trust no one' ethos.
Eli James
I believe Revan's name was in reference to revanchism, in that he was fighting for the regaining of territory after the Republic's wars with the Sith. He represented a resurgence of Sith military action.
Nolan Russell
>Donker vader actually it would be donkere vader or duistere vader, the extra e is needed, otherwise it would be grammatically incorrect. source, i'm a native dutch speaker. Would be hilarious, americans trying to pronounce "duistere", they'd probably read it as dwee-steer-ay.
Andrew Jones
I was thinking its more like dew-stare or knowing you crazy fucks dow-shter
Gavin Davis
I wonder if english even has the dutch ui sound
Ethan Howard
When you put it that way, it makes Han seem like he picked out a porn star name.
Levi Phillips
>duistere I'd imagine it to sound like dwih-ster-eh
Lincoln Hernandez
It's english. It has literally every sound ever cause we steal all words ever and we don't even have the courtesy to put accents over shit cause fuck you so you better know the actual word and its pronunciation or else you might be saying something entirely different. We don't even keep the same meanings for the words either.
Gavin Bailey
Cruh-sant
Zachary Nelson
Bag-ul
Christopher Brooks
Lucas has the worst name gibberish in all his films. Darth Vader = Dark Father Bav Morda = Bad Mother
I lost my shit as a kid when I discovered his name is Madmartigan, instead of Mad Martigan.
Logan Russell
demo.acapela-group.com/ type in duister (dutch netherlands) could you tell me what word has the same sound?
He was called "The Revanchist" before he became a Sith lord, yes.
Andrew Myers
>not just using google translate
David Foster
I like forvo, it generally gives more variations so I can get different inflections, tones, and whatnot. But I like learning languages, so yeah.
Jeremiah Flores
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Joshua Wilson
Pissed me off when the main girl in Pitch Perfect said vader meant father in germen. Vater is father, Vader is clearly a shortening of invader.
Hudson Young
>lesson
The lesson is, you're not smart. The corollary is, you're not funny either.
Carter Cox
i'd donk her vader ifyaknowwhatimean
Kevin Evans
>said the retard who thinks a costume is real Are you?
Dylan Thomas
How exactly did you scrape enough brain cells together to even attempt to shit post?
Adrian James
I figured it was dwee-stur
Evan Stewart
Well, we learned that Dutch probably doesn't exist in the Star-Wars universe.
Aaron Williams
That's not do-stay?
John Wright
The vader part is pronounced completely different as well, something like "vaadr"
Joshua King
>It has literally every sound ever We have glottalized clicks?
Colton Nguyen
If we want too. We're literally the Fuck You language that makes up rules on the spot which may or may not last several centuries upon their inception.
Justin Collins
Since I was a kid I thought Darth meant "in." Then Maul had to go fuck up that theory. However, your case makes way more sense, though Nhillus breaks the mold. >Annihilate? >Denial-less? >Null-Silence?
Jace King
Nihilism is a fairly negative philosophy that promotes depression and a complete lack of caring.
Ryder Sanders
lucas made up a fake language for starwars and in that language it means dark father.
Evan Russell
>Darth Icky >Darth Insanius
I'm not sure Lucas really had a system.
Jacob Collins
>"duistere" day-stir-rer
Jonathan Morris
Je ne sais quoi is a phrase in the English language, borrowed from the French, just as many other words and phrases.
Brody Cook
Reminder when the original film was written, "Darth Vader" was literally just the guy's name. As in first name Darth, last name Vader. I guarantee you none of this "Dark Father" shit was ever a consideration, mostly because George didn't decide to make Vader and Anakin the same guy until 1979.
The idea "Darth" was some kind of title wasn't a thing until decades after the fact. And overall I think it was a bad thing, because we wound up with dozens of idiot steel donut bad guys with some variation of the name "Lord Darkbad".
Kayden Phillips
>Nihilism is a fairly negative philosophy that promotes depression and a complete lack of caring.
Adrian Jones
Obi Wan refers to Vader as "Darth" with the same intonation as a first name in their final duel.
Caleb Roberts
That dutchbis a bigger dissapointment than before.
Oliver Anderson
Wow, I wasn't the only one.
Zachary Nguyen
>be a kid >kid's show has a villain dressed up as Darth Vader >calls him Dark Raider >have no trouble separating Dark Raider from Darth Vader >call lightsabers lightsabers >not even speaking english as native language
Juan Bailey
Unless you're retarded and are an absurdist and not a Nihilist, that's exactly how Nihilism actually works. Even more retarded would be bringing up Sartre.
Lucas Torres
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Oliver Collins
Different user here. You're a retard, nihilism cured my depression.
Landon Nelson
The only one who brought up Sartre was you, user.
Jonathan Long
While I agree, and don't ascribe to George Lucas's revisionist history of Star Wars, he was interested in The Hero's Journey. Even though Vader wasn't Luke's biological father in early drafts he seems a good candidate for a symbolic father, for the Hero's Atonement With the Father, as foreshadowed by the Tree of Fear scene.
Wyatt Nelson
joyous nihilism with altruism as it's polestar is literally a thing.
go back to misinterpreting nieztsche
Jeremiah Sanchez
>It has literally every sound ever
At the very least you don't have the hungarian "gy".
Liam Moore
C'est la vi.
Austin Flores
Or the italian gli/glie gni/gne sounds
Eli Hughes
Bidet. To be honest we probably do. English is a language so messed up the yanks started to spell words wrong. Like mum, neurone and colour.
Adam Thomas
Lingua franca.
Gavin Sanchez
Lucas spent his entire life trying to change what he could get the production company agreed to fund back to his original design.
Samuel Peterson
That's not nihilism then. Nothing is of inherent value according to it. Being altruistic therefore serves no purpose and cannot be any better or more attractive than egoism or apathy.
Christian Howard
*tips fedora*
Austin Ross
It does serve a purpose though, enjoyment. Or, more accurately, because I have everything I immediately need and left over funds it doesn't matter if I spend on others
Grayson Johnson
This. Dutch is to languages what belgium is to countries and craft cheese is to cheese.
John Johnson
>His language doesn't have a letter only they use Way to be shit-tier language
Evan Perez
Fun fact, here in italy Darth Vader was called Darth Fener in the original movies. Don't ask me why really.
Dominic Martin
>the rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless.
Merely accepting that life meaningless does not mean depression. many people believe we are not born with any great destiny, no reason to be alive, that we just are alive and we do what we will out of it.
I get how it could be soul depressing to a lot of people though.
Ayden Young
Except for Dutch Vander
Owen Walker
This
Nathan Carter
>English is a language so messed up the yanks started to spell words wrong >badlinguistics.jpg
Andrew Howard
None of those should count as distinct sounds. "gli"is just an l and a y sound together.
Evan Davis
No. Star Wars takes place in a galaxy far far away.
Angel Harris
Inherent value and subjective value aren't the same thing, you turbo-retard.
Jace Rogers
Subjective values are also without meaning.
Ryan Peterson
There is nothing wrong with absurdism.
William Cox
Not subjectively.
Mason Bailey
So? If you claim that people should follow their subjective whims simply because they are their subjective whims then you also claim that there is inherit value in doing so.
I thought you said: "those threads are always full of people taking examples from whatever show/video game/novel/movie/whatever and discusing how to best convert them from their native passive media to the more interactive nature of a table top RPG" desuarchive.org/tg/thread/48387545/#48387747 But I don't see any discussion of traditional games in this thread.
Thomas Myers
Remember that one game about that movie trilogy? Well turns out this one villian from the adapted tabletop RPG wasn't actually "Dark Father" in dutch like my old teacher claimed. How crazy is that?
Noah White
But user, it's FUN! Why do you have FUN? Shitting up the board with 100% off-topic shitposting is FUN! It's not as FUN as posting on the appropriate board!
Hudson Gray
>Dutch Polish
Ayden Walker
Dutch, polish, swedish It's all thrown under the same label titled "Nazi speak" here in America, and we pronounce it Nat-See.
Easton Cook
I'm not saying anyone *should* do anything. I'm saying they will, regardless of whether anything has any inherent value.
You are either disingenuous or an idiot.
Aiden Wright
>That the prevalence of autism within this hobby has been under-reported and needs to be addressed No, no, no, my good user. What lessons can WE draw from this? No one is gleaning that lesson here.
Jaxon Parker
Darth Vader was never intended to be Luke's father anyway. That was made up on the spot when writing Revenge of the Sith, hence why Obi-Wan is such a dick about it to Luke in episode IV. Vader probably came from INvader or something.
John Myers
>It has literally every sound ever haha yeah ok
Camden Baker
Shoo rules lawyer
Dominic Watson
1% of the population as a whole has autism. Most are unemployed and stay on the internet all day complaining, so it looks like there are more than they actually are.