So I finally ended up being dragged into a GMs magical realm after reading about this stuff on Veeky Forums for years. Our group were searching for a powerful paladin who had been a big inspirational figure in the last war against evil only to discover that the paladin had been cursed into the form of a goblin shortstack as retaliation.
It got awkward at the table as I realized this but didn't want to halt the session and ruin it for the other players, but it really does make me wonder.
Times you stumbled into a magical realm blindly, let's hear them.
Shortstack is a term for fetishized small people. Midges, halflings, gnomes, some iterations of dwarves, asura and goblins. WoW gnomes and goblins are particularly popular targets for this fetish.
Owen Gomez
Short(midget/gnome/goblin short, not hunan ranges), improbably busty, probably big hips but a narrow waist. Short and stacked.
Grayson Brown
Not OP but A "shortstack" (Which is sadly within /D territory) is more or less loli sized but has full fledged female sexual characteristics IE hips, bust- the works. Also is more or less near the sexual maturity for whatever short species is in question.
I had one where the party were attacked by unknown assailants in the night. Being a lawful Evil cleric O pain I reached out and used inflict moderate wounds. Rolled a Nat 20.The GM (Who was a Female with some truly fucked up sexual issues) gets the unholy gleam in her eye- whips out a copy of (I shit you not) Nymphology and rules that (Turns out the attacker was a female Teifling) I more or less preformed a boob grope of doom and the resulting damage burst the Teifling's left breast- Which of course brought her to orgasm.
That was the end of the last session I went to. Never went back.
Thomas Jones
>exploding boob >orgasm >female GM What the fuck am I reading.
Brayden Foster
The kind of game a "/D"m runs.
The previous time we all showed up to play was canceled on account of her having to tell everybody about her made to order Canine dildo she ordered from Bad Dragon and further went on about how it still paled in size to her boyfriend's dick.
Hell you could not have a conversation with her without the subject of her bf's dick coming up.
Isaac Campbell
A couple years back I participated in an online group playing a homebrew game. One day I logged in at the usual time only to find them all arguing with each other. Turns out everyone but me was text-fucking on the side, and when it somehow came into the open a bunch of people got pissed for one reason or another. I quietly logged out and stayed out.
Hudson Barnes
Maybe he had a really great dick.
Dominic Clark
What the fuck
Ryan Jenkins
what the fuck Veeky Forums
Austin King
You new or something? This is a pretty normal day for Veeky Forums.
Once had a player who had a female bard character she constantly got caught. Dumb as bricks, and kept walking off on her own, into obvious traps, and getting caught.
She kept asking if anything raped her while she was kept off-screen, and could never sit still on her chair, constantly shifting around. It was super weird, but whatever, she was honest to god a good roleplayer and she was pretty cute too so she got some leeway.
And I think most of the other players jerked off to her, so they didn't seem to mind either.
Caleb Gonzalez
Did a freeform Starcraft game in my youth where 2 other players an I were cerebrates loyal to Kerrigan just after the events of Broodwar. We're doing pretty well against an alliance between the Protoss, humans and some catfolk aliens who are pretty much Predators when it is revealed that we were competing for the position of Kerrigans' consort.
What followed was more than a little awkward as the GM would constantly try to spark party conflict by giving us side missions to screw each other over or have us go for bonus win conditions in certain battles. All the while having Kerrigan communicate to us in private with seductive words of encouragement and promises of how strong our children would be.
Was fun but weird.
Wyatt Perez
Why is this magical realm?
Wyatt Baker
Reminds me of my days of playing White Wolf games.. I had a cute girl that would constantly pick fights with my character.
My character was an alpha werewolf. Her vampires, witches and occasional mortal (man, she changed characters a lot) seemed to inevitability find a way to slap my face, pull my tail or just call me an asshole.
Then they'd run away, but inevitability be too slow to escape. She really seemed to like the time a failed dex roll left her sprawled on all fours in the forest when the big bad wolf caught up.
The character she played the longest was the one that I deiced to punish by keeping on a leash and marked with a brand.
Nicholas Parker
She wanted you to dom her brah.
John Sanders
What in the ever loving name of Jesus is wrong with people.
Jace Campbell
Commence purge immediately. Burn it all.
Adam Campbell
Am I the only one that's sick and tired of shortstacks?
Every damn time halflings or goblins get brought up it's always the same tired dance of "hehe, they've got huge fat hips and extremely large breasts, look at one of three images that have been reposted for years to prove it!"
It's tiring and frankly obnoxious, especially since it silences other body types these races can assume; slim and slender? Busty? Kinda just chunky, maybe a little pear-shaped? No no, oh no! It has to be human-sized hips and massive tits!
It's the same fucking thing with Kobolds, which is worse because Kobolds and goblins are basically low-level mooks! Why are they suddenly super-good mechanics or something?
Caleb Gray
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Parker Lewis
I'm so tired of the magical realm meme. You have no idea what the phrase means so you use it to mean "THING I DON'T LIKE". Fucking immature sheep that you are.
Jayden Johnson
>I'm so tired of the magical realm meme.
Fucking this, but not for the reasons you necessarily stated.
I'm sick and tired of the Magical Realm meme because it gets firmly in the way of legitimate discussion on otherwise very mature topics. Every ding dong time Veeky Forums seems to be having an adult discussion on things like Human/Halfling relations or the time and place for sex in a campaign, people start wailing on and on about how that's Magical Realm and you need to cut it out.
Andrew Sanchez
Once my GM called a porno fanfic writer to describe Slaanesh cultists torturing That Guy of our group Was weird and fucked up, but lulzy and in-character for followers of Slaanesh, and he kinda had it coming
Gavin Roberts
>very mature topics There's a difference between private topics and mature topics. Any teenager with Google can talk about sex, it's other topics that deserve the "mature" tag.
Tyler Rodriguez
I'm waiting to spring on my players that the competent young adventurer lass they met is now a contented harem girl.
Jayden Evans
Goblins have been super-good mechanics for ages, and kobolds have been expert trapmakers for just as long. As for the shortstack thing, yeah, I get how it could be a little tiresome, but prurient interests always win out, man.
Aaron Davis
"Mature" is the ability to discuss adult-themed topics without resorting to bullshit phrases like "magical realm," "squick," "fade to black" or holding up one of those fucking X cards.
Liam Hughes
>you will never be that paladin
Why do you faggots get all the cool GMs. It's not fair, dammit.
Jaxon Martin
Same here. At least for halflings you can just use a picture of a human and say they're three feet tall. Gnomes... it's either pointy hats and beards or shortstacks, would love to see something less cliche for them. As for goblin and kobold engineers: kobolds are based on spirits that used to steal the gold from mines and leave cobalt deposits, and are known in DnD for building traps to help against stronger races. Goblins probably go back to Tolkien where they and orcs are the same thing, just different languages having different words for them. Said goblins were skilled at seige engineering and had a love for things with gears, treads and explosions. As the ages turned and everything that didn't go West with the elves grew more human, the descendants of goblins/orcs were to be those who invented all manner of horrible machines and destructive industries. Both kobolds and goblins coild easily draw parallels to the original idea of gremlins too, being malicious little bastards that fucked up your plane just right to fail and crash later. Labyrinth portayed goblins with a small sort of mech. And then WoW came along with their goblins.
Justin Lee
>"fade to black" Your an idiot if you think being mature means a player/GM has to roleplay sex.
Now if your talking about repercussions of sex that's different and it can still fade to black. We don't need to know the details to suss out what it mean when your character bangs a noble and gains a political link, or what happens to that middle class girl whose purity they sullied.
We don't need the whole scene to play out for those to adventurers who banged to have a deeper emotional connection or just be fuck buddies.
William Taylor
>be me >dating bisexual girl >she invites her friend over and turns out she likes d&d >friend is better looking than girl I'm seeing, I start to DM gladly >their chars start lezzing mid session >I get a fuckin raging berserker boner under table >can't contain my magical realm >they go with it, and my girl nordvest my boner, whispers to friend >hey user we are doing this, and you can't refuse i got raped by two women that night, and i loved it like the sissy I am
Mason Richardson
Charitably presuming realness of the story, do not presume the worst immediately. Did the GM just drop picrelated for the looks? It's not really a fetishized picture, just a generic wowgoblin.
Jackson Collins
Goblins are shit tier, you're lucky
Jacob Moore
Look at Midna as an example.
Short and stacked in one or more departments.
Nicholas White
>Hard copy of Nymphology
Goodness gracious, i didn't think that anyone actually possessed that book. I mean, we got the pdfs to look at and be like "What the fuck is wrong with these people" from somewhere, but holy fucking shit.
Dylan Phillips
Further reference
Ethan Evans
>short and stacked she's flat though
Evan Davis
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Isaac Hughes
She's pear shaped, not shortstack.
Colton Lewis
To the mind of a goblin fetishist, anything with pronounced hips is a shortstack.
Mason Robinson
Your girl... northwested your boner? I am intrigued and vaguely frightened.
Jeremiah James
I believe the word user failed to type was "noticed"
Benjamin Baker
>>female GM Dis happens, yo
Michael Cook
Did they shove things in your butt?
Nicholas Ortiz
You are legitimately trash.
Ryan Hall
Once the fetish gets mainstream enough they'll start separating them into their proper categories.
Carter Hernandez
Yeah, but you keep that shit to yourself. Don't want anyone to think they'll try it themselves, do you?
Nathaniel Long
no u
Easton Gomez
This amused me more than it should have
Kevin Perez
>being transformed into a goblin grill is bad
What the fuck is wrong with you
Angel Clark
Things that never happened 101 -Starts at tg related situation -Totally passive or overly active person -Insert personal fetish list, happening miraculously one by one Optional: add justification "im sure u guyz wont beliv me but it hapuned"
Michael Brooks
How dare you shame user's goblin hate fetish.
Blake Thomas
Your remaining lifespan is halved though and you can't reach the top shelf any more without assistance.
Wyatt Thompson
We could do with more examples... Y'know so everyone is on the same page.
Joseph Cox
My GM almost always brings a hard copy of Nymphology to his games. Along with the Book of Erotic Fantasy, and a couple of other similar books. He never opens them during his sessions unfortunately.
Cooper Rodriguez
I guess I could get a painfetishist getting off to a severe shock of pain from a titty grab, but straight up destroying something like that isn't sexy.
People need to better conform to my standards.
Owen Bailey
No u. Goblins are at least believable sluts, unlike halflings, or worse kobolds, who shouldn't even have boobs.
Adam Bailey
My biggest problem with shortstack goblin art is that often times males never get drawn in the same style. Art for generic fantasy mooks shows no females, and art for more human-looking gobbos is only chicks.
Andrew Morgan
I swear i've seen wide hipped hormone therapy titted goblin twinks before. Possibly by nitrotitan but i vaguely recall other artstyles as well.
Cameron Smith
>Your remaining lifespan is halved though Only because goblins get an insane racial INT bonus at the cost of a near-crippling WIS penalty.
James Hughes
>Goblins are at least believable sluts, unlike halflings, or worse kobolds, who shouldn't even have boobs.
Goblins are disgusting monsters suitable only for low-level parties to slaughter for copper coins and bits of XP.
Halflings have, and typically always will be, the charming laid-back country folk that enjoy a good beer at the tavern followed by a fun romp in the stables.
Elijah Sullivan
Goblins in Eberron, Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk and Golarion have always been simple, numerous idiots with a penchant for destruction and violence.
I really don't get where you guys are getting this whole, "they're actually super-geniuses" thing.
Austin Gonzalez
WoW. It's their thing to make garbage monster-tier constructs and the like as a counterpoint to gnomeish clockwork tinker-tier tech.
Levi Turner
But WoW isn't a tabletop setting, why are their goblins assumed as the "standard" on Veeky Forums when hardly any Veeky Forums content actually displays them as such?
Sebastian Cox
That's not definitely magical realm, unless he used the term shortstack/explicitly went into detail. There's plausible deniability.
Mason Martin
Because they have the most media exposure, art, and the one the modern college age group has most exposure too via experience. You could show them 80 differenr games with impish type goblins and their first impression will always be WoW shortstacks.
Grayson Cruz
Bullshit. Halflings are Tolkien idealistic rural folk. They drink, but sex outside of marriage is nonsense and would get you run out of town. Even the rumor would ruin someone.
Aaron Parker
>Victorian-era country-folk >Not romping in the stables
Christian Parker
> I more or less preformed a boob grope of doom and the resulting damage burst the Teifling's left breast- Which of course brought her to orgasm. What the actual fuck? You would not have a orgasm having a chuck of fat and flesh attached to your chest being blown apart (that's what you mean by burst right? Just like a water balloon?) People these days are just getting sicker and sicker.
Mason Brooks
You don't get to romp in the hay if you were written by a Catholic writer trying to show a struggle between good and evil. Sex outside of marriage is bad, so the good pure little hobbits don't get to do it.
Warcraft goblins get to make jokes about bondage, oral sex, and handjobs, because they are modern.
Oliver Morales
I remember WoW being one my first western fantasy works and I can't fathom how their goblins are in any way impressive. They had like two cities in kinda meh areas, and one was horde territory.
Did things change when they becaome playable? Am I somehow that old that there's generation barrier between different WoW expansions or am I a weirdo for not seeing any Warcraft porn in my formative years?
Kevin Baker
I love x cards. You can play sooooo much harder when you have a safeword.
Owen Peterson
They're not. It's all headcanon.
Nicholas Cook
Shhhh. Just let the Gravity Falls fanfic write itself....
Oliver Morales
I love that pic
I've always wanted to play a high CHA qt Goblin Rogue/Bard who talks like this
This. And there's a gen gap. One is basically between vanilla and up to lich then lich onwards is another.
Jose Morris
I can't really call it a magical realm, but at one point one player began joking that his male, androgynous looking elf, since he had been raised in the woods, probably didn't care much about gender and thought that my male paladin was hot. DM started joking along with it, which set off more warning bells.
The character ended up dying a scripted death a session or two later, so at least that bullet was dodged, but man I was worried for a while there that I was going to be dealing with this elf trying to hit on my straight paladin.
Jaxon Diaz
But user, straight is just another way to say "a bisexual that doesn't know they swing both ways yet."
Gabriel Bennett
Doesn't quite fit but i think all my players figured out my fetish for hot brown elves.
Adrian Edwards
But user, if it's not gay if it's an Elf can it really even be bi if it's an Elf?
Brandon Foster
>Scripted death only a few sessions later
Honestly that sets off more warning bells than anything else
Leo Bennett
The real question is, what's the term for the male equivalent?
Gavin Harris
Maybe if it was in an online game, and I had specifically decided to make a character a little more bicurious, I would have been okay with it. With text on some level it's just a hole's a hole.
But in this case, I was sitting on a couch in a grody DM's basement, with a guy a year or two younger than me joking with a man twice my size, honestly not at all handsome, and a few years older about how his elf thought my paladin was hot.
All I could see was endless weeks stretching before me of stumblingly working through a one-sided pretend romance acted out between two dudes, without even the cold comfort of it at least being with a pretend girl somewhere in the mix. And, just to sweeten the mix, alongside these two strangers was a friend of mine who I was trying to show that I can actually be a decent roleplayer. I didn't want to delve into a magical realm with that audience, even if it had been tsundere tomboys and sexually aggressive motherly elves.
Samuel Jones
My understanding is shortstack basically refers to human adult proportions on the midget frame so i'd assume its the same just with "twink" or "trap" added at the end.
John Thomas
>The real question is, what's the term for the male equivalent?
Chode?
Jack Scott
It's still shortstack, or perhaps just trap since it would make for a pretty femmy looking guy.
John Edwards
>to be mature you must be willing to roleplay sex with someone in front of other people and be willing to sit at a table and listen to other people roleplay sex
This is what high school kids actually believe
Hudson Diaz
But guys aren't stacked
Kayden Phillips
>But guys aren't stacked
Sure they can! It's just not called stacked, it's called "hung."
Nicholas Wood
>But WoW isn't a tabletop setting, why are their goblins assumed as the "standard" on Veeky Forums
12+ million players at once point a few years ago.
Brandon Evans
"Shorthung" seems kind of contradictory
Asher Ramirez
Shortstack barely refers to there being large breasts anyway. Most people care about the hips.
Parker Brooks
I bought the psionics book for pathfinder because it caused me physical pain to read. I'd probably buy that nymphology book for the same reason if I happened across it in a book store.
Mason Torres
Sounds like an interesting set-up actually.
Luis Rodriguez
So you're trying to tell me most people don't want the stack? Nonsense, the tits are half the fun.
Christopher Murphy
Oh they probably definitely want the stacks. Just its required they have relatively human adult proportions in the hip region for it to be considered "shortstack". Thats why midna's shortstack.
Landon Garcia
The problem is that the tits are half the fun. Everything else totaling up to only half is less than what you'd get from a normal-sized human.
Nathan Anderson
The only way to counteract the magical relm meme now is to explain every time it's mentioned that the point of the piss wizard comic was that the GM kept injecting his weird fetish into the game in ways that had nothing to do with anything, especially after the players expressly told them about their discomfort.
Grayson Hall
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Christian Bailey
holy shit that dynamite is gonna blow what are you doing