Skulls huh?

So I've heard that the whole point in the skull imagery in the 40k Imperium of Man is: in death we are all the same, the skull is representing the essential sameness of all humanity, the skull of the Emperor is just like yours, etc etc etc.

But that doesn't make any sense.

Race is more than skin deep. Humans are subdivided into different races, just like breeds of dogs are. German Shepards and Pitt bulls can interbreed, but obviously those are totally different animals. And the different breeds of dogs happened within just a few hundred years.

It makes sense that genetically isolated branches of humanity, which have been inhabiting extremely different environments for millennia (different planets), would drift genetically into not just different "races" or "breeds" of humanity but literally different species.

It can happen faster than you think. Selection pressure from agriculture alone is probably responsible for all sorts of behavioral and physical traits in modern humans. And that took place over a shorter time span than space colonization in the 40k universe.

The skull iconography doesn't even make sense in real life. It makes even less sense in 40k. We probably wouldn't even recognize the "humans" in 40k. They would be as different from us as Neanderthals are from homo sapiens.

Our skulls are different today. Bin the grim darkness of the future, they would be even more different.

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Jesus Christ just fuck off for 2 seconds

>Bin

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To be fair, some of the grimderpness of 40k should go in the bin.

It's a fascist theocracy. The skulls represent death and remind you of how the emperor's faithful can kill you at a moment's notice, but also that the emperor will welcome you into his arms after death.

Think of it like the Christian symbol - the cross. 40k bases a lot of the Imperial faith on Catholicism. And the cross is blatantly a symbol of suffering, both as a threat and as reassurance. Also people would object to it's use by the Imperium, so skulls it is.

You'll have better luck with shitposting on faster boards friendo.

The Church regularly culls mutants, ensuring a static gene pool.

The whole point of the skull imagery is that every skull the Imperium puts on something is a skull that Khorne doesn't get for his throne.

Just means Khornates have to take extra skulls to make up the difference.

We are talking Khornates here. They would be taking those extra skulls either way.

>Humans are subdivided into different races, just like breeds of dogs are

That's incorrect. It's not a SWJ thing. "Race", as it's used colloquially, has no scientific weight whatsoever. As far as actual genetics goes, humans are humans are humans are humans. You can just straight up google that.

>We probably wouldn't even recognize the "humans" in 40k. They would be as different from us as Neanderthals are from homo sapiens.
but neanderthals are most likely mixed with us

Low effort posting there. There are significant divergences in genetics between races. You can easily determine a person's backgroubd through a DNA test.

This, please, the /pol/ spam is just hurting your cause

People who'd be annoyed enough by SJW bullshit otherwise to fall in to your crap are being driven off by the obnoxious spam

The fact that people discussing genetics and society and symbolism without a SJW filter on, shows how far into thought policing our society has come. I support OP.

What about op's post is /pol/?

Edit: ... the fact that you get mad at people for discussing ....

It's the same as the Buddhist ideal of prayer beads being made of human bone: death is a part of your duty. It will come for you. Don't not fear it, your pride will not stop it. But death cannot stop your legacy. Each bone a reminder that a man has fulfilled his life's goal: to reach death.

> traditional games
> phrenology

Go "muh 40k setting discussion" all you want, but if you don't see this as yet another "subtle" racial agitation thread to stir the pot and spam Le ebin redpil, you're gullible.

You are incorrect. Archeologists and forensic scientists identify the race of human remains by skeleton structure all the time. It's like the easiest thing to do, no DNA test required, just look at the thing.

Racial differences are obvious and apparent to anyone who has a real job to do. Medical doctors and drug researches takes race into account because if they didn't people would die.

The social """"sciences"""" are worse than useless. They don't just ignore HBD, they go out of their way to deny it.

You missed the point where the Imperium culls mutants and. You don't see any Abhuman skulls in that iconography do you?

On a side note, notice how one of the Ork nicknames for humans are pinkies? And how there is a famous quote by them describing humans as soft and pink? White people are the most common people in 40k. Interpret that as you will.

ITT: People try so, so hard to use board games as a vehicle for racial politicking

>t. "human" of African origin

> NUH-UH, YOU'RE A NIGGER

>Interpret that as you will.

How would you interpret it

I don't see it, the point is that even today skulls vary by race, that isn't opinion, it isn't racist, it is fact.
now the discussion on the purpose of the skull imagery in 40K, specifically the imperium.

also, how do you think humans would change physiologically from planet to planet. Say Mars besides the machine replacements

As do I. I don't understand why these triggertards can't simply hide the thread or ignore it. No, they always have to come in and post what basically amounts to "DELETE THIS!!!" every fucking time. Like anything that conflicts with their worldview is salaceous trolling that should be discarded outright.

It's not enough for them to disagree with whatever it is that's triggering them (though they rarely care enough to explain WHY they disagree with it), they have to actively go out of their way to make it known that they think the discussion should be censored altogether.

We get mad because /pol/ loves to shove their shit into everything.
>Hey the Imperium uses skulls but do you know skulls look different based on race
What the hell does this have to do with anything? It is like Veeky Forums randomly shitting up /m/ by pointing out that the square cube law is a thing.

Even with our current knowledge we know that zero G fucks up your bones after a couple of months, even with heavy exercise and optimal nutrition.

Zero G is not partial G. We only have two data sets (normal = 1 G, ISS = 0 G). But given the data set we have today + common sense, Martian G (.38 G of Earth's), will likely have an effect of some sort. Maybe not super harmful, maybe you only need a little bit of gravity for your body to function normally. But this is a big question mark. We just don't know. We won't know, we can't know, until we try.

When we do finally establish a colony on Mars, we're going to learn a lot from the first human born there. Virginia Dare, livestreamed in real time.

It's a symbol of sacrifice, not equality.

Skulls look spooky and 40k was made during the age of metal to be metal as fuck so of course it has skulls everywhere. Make up any justification for that you want.

Except worse because these guys are trying to go out of their way to shit up the board and make it more "redpilled".

Maybe, sometimes, the people getting frustrated aren't triggered nu-male feminists. Maybe they just don't give a fuck about blacks or muslims or whatever and just want to talk about dragons and orks in peace without a bunch of raidkids trying to jam their shit down their throats

Plus their attempts to force relevance make them look more retarded than if they just straight made an irrelevant thread. Its like an educational movie using rap, its more pitiful than anything else.

and yet despite your opinion on the post, its spawned several thoughtful replies ( ) that you'd have to be retarded to say are nothing more than "HURR DURR NIGGERS ARE INFERIOR AMITIRE?!" pol circlejerking.

so please fuck off with your paranoid triggertard bullshit for like 2 seconds already. and please stop calling your opinion "we"

>I've heard
you've heard wrong

>in the grim darkness of the future, they would be even more different
no, they're the same

Or maybe they're just getting tired of the inbred hill-people of /pol/ coming here and trying to spread their bullshit theories about why they should be able to treat other people like shit.
>inb4 but user, they are... Hurr durr furr

ITT: People who don't realize that Veeky Forums is comprised of /pol/ and its vassal boards

Veeky Forums and /co/ are filled with moderate-to-leftist content. It is up to us to end it.

Come on, a thread about how the size of dicks, affect races can lead to thoughtful replies, it dosen't mean it's retarded. Anyone who's been around knows this was a /pol/ thread, that dosen't make it inherently bad, it just makes it /pol/, with all its positive, and negative traits.

The point in the thread could've done as simple as saying that human skull shapes are different, but he went at it in a very /pol/ way.

> paranoid triggertard

Is this how /pol/ raiders pronounce "people who don't immediately spread their asscheeks for their Nazi dicklets"?

I thought I was on /pol/ for a minute there.

You can get people to reply to anything doesn't mean you aren't forcing your shit down everyone else's throats.

But lets break up the relevance of your post line by line
>40k related
>just a comment
>Hurr durr human races are like artificially selected and actively inbred dog breeds, we are so different
>Hey look races are like people living on different planets
>Some more irrelevant facts about race
>Random assumption about 40k that goes against established fluff to try to prove a point

You could have stopped with line 1, just say "why does the Imperium obsess over skulls?"

>Anybody hints at or mentions race in any context whatsoever
>Get totally buttblasted

This is you

>racism/stereotyping is bad, mmkay
>And btw, I'm incapable of disagreeing with an opposing idealogy without stereotyping all of it's supporters as inferior subhumans

Can't wait to be drinking your tears when Trump wins in a landslide this November. It's YOUR hateful, hand-waving bigotry that has made people so fed up with the left that they've embraced Donald Trump of all people as their savior. Oh the irony, right?

>just like breeds of dogs are
Stopped reading there, you're genuinely retarded if you think dog genetics work the same way as human genetics.

No, Veeky Forums is filled with escapists who didn't even hear about "left" and "right" division before you started your ebin nazi spiderman threads. Now fuck off.

Why did OP have to mention race in any way? Why did he make a stupid comparison between human races and dog breeds? Why did OP even mention that 40k humans should look alien to us when established fluff outright states that isn't true?

>t. Evolution didn't effect the brain in any way

What is your obsession with dicks, man. You're in nearly every thread talking about dick size. It's annoying.

This is pretty obvious, but it could be an interesting topic without the /pol/ flavoring.

But I guess that the makers of 40k simply didn't think of it.
Or they thought of the skulls as a symbol for a unity in death - which comes for all humans.

Go back to /pol/, facebook commenter.

It isn't even really genetics it is that dogs were artificially selected for specific traits and inbred to hell. It is like someone actively selected humans for underbites and actively had siblings and cousins fucking to make the traits more prominent and then saying "look how different these horribly inbred people look compared to normal people."

We think 40k is an effective tool to spread the better aspects of Fascism so that's why we haven't crapflooded this dykenest. We could erase this board.

Watch your tone when speaking with your superiors.

I'm actually not that user, I just like colorful phrases. But there's seriously some guy in every thread talking about cocks?

Weird.

Can I have proof to back up OP's image?

Like a present day scientific article. Not the quack shit made in the 19th century.

This peaks my interests.

Trump will win in a landslide, 50/50 states.

Check ' em

Yeah, I'm not OP you fucking retard. Thanks for proving the "paranoid triggertard" portion of my post. You're so out of touch with reality that you automatically assume every post that doesn't support your fragile ideology must come from a single extremely prolific shitposter.

t. fluff in a soft scifi setting works according to science and not established fluff. In 40k all humans are effectively the same except abhumans, this is a fact. Differences exist like Cadians being special snowflakes with purple eyes but the fluff and rules always bring up indirectly how compatible pretty much all humans are. FFS the fluff even mentions that all humans are the same subspecies except for abhumans which are classified as different subspecies.

Found thr footage of your RNC
m.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxGvBQi--0

So Habsburgians?
Monarchies were up to some crazy hijinks in that regard.

Thank god, but yeah, there's a dude constantly talking about dick sizes on Veeky Forums. Hard to filter for him, though.

>Make a comment about how OP is a faggot and use the word you
>Hurr I'm not OP you are so paranoid

You were never my superior. I'm my own master.

Okay kiddo ;^)

Just remember that faggots like you are going first when the day of the rope comes around.

>We think 40k is an effective tool to spread the better aspects of Fascism
Are you mentally disabled? 40k is all about how the Imperium is a shithole for 99.999% of humanity and how it is doomed to collapse eventually.

remember, Jerry's Subs and Pizza now has a sub call "The Wall"

It will be useless to hide when the day of the wrench comes by

It's all about humanity unifying in hatred of savage and barbaric subhumans. It's about glory and honor and killing monsters with ugly colored skin and purging degeneracy so normality reigns, which is what we truly are here for.

40k has helped redpill so many.

I think that was the point OP was making. Even in death we are different, beyond superficial culture like food and fashion and skin color.

This fact could be interpreted either way of course. An emphasis on heritability and ancestry (blood and soil), or emphasis on the similarities we share, despite the obvious differences within greater humanity, between us and the hated Aliens.

That post was totally written as though it was in direct response to the OP's author, don't even try to downplay it user:
>But lets break up the relevance of YOUR post line by line
>Proceeds to break down the OP, not the post they're replying to
>YOU have stopped with line 1, just say (sums up the OP in an SJW-approved manner)

>Jerry's Subs and Pizza
Who...?

You infidels better be prayin' that the day of the scimitar doesn't roll around any time soon.

Or was it the day of the AK-47? I forget.

>humanity unifying
>40k
Ok.... the only thing that's a bigger shithole than the Imperium, is 40k itself.

True, but also canine genome are unique in how they are able to undergo adaptive molecular change.

don't know how far around the US the chain goes but around DC, VA, and MD its everywhere

Kay...
So, nowhere important. Got it.

Bigot much?

Oh god I know this is bait but wow.

/pol/'s Sampson option of taking over /mlp/ during the Cuckening went down in a spectacle of pony colored flames. They couldn't take over a board of lonely horsefuckers and they think themselves superior.

Umm...

40k canon explicitly endorses racist fascism as the only thing keeping our race alive against hostile aliens.

I mean, it's super grimdark and all, but are you seriously implying that universalist democracy

>fictional settings came about as a result of evolution
are you actually retarded

There's no jews or muslims in 40k, because it's the future.

When it comes to shit food, you're damn right.

You sure are up-to-date on all the /pol/ goings-ons. I'm one of the people sympathizing with the validity of OP's post and I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

40k canon endorses speciesism as the only thing keeping humanity alive. Black and white put aside their differences to fight against green. It's kind of heartwarming, in a way.

Let me guess, you just started up here 3 months ago?

There's no christians, either. Because it's a shithole future, with background ripped wholesale from Dune.

But you weren't dismissing food, user. You were dismissing the "importance" of several geographical areas.

Did you seriously, like, forget what you were saying?

Is that another pol meme that you somehow know better than I do?

Christianity is an effective tool to combat degenerate behavior like homosexuality but the Emperor fulfills that role in 40k.

You're wrong
He's right
Speaking as a doctor, race is a very real concept. There are significant racial differences in alcohol and drug metabolism, disease prevalence and treatment response. You can only say race doesn't exist if you define race as some sort of absolutist strawman where separate races where races have to be completely different. Which is ridiculous. Races are a matter of averages and predominance with lots of shades of grey. That doesn't make them any less real.

>implying VA, MD, or DC are important
You're not one of those male escorts who makes money from right-wing senators at the capital, are you?

Nah that's just tried and true newfag accusation he's sliding you user

I am OP.

All you faggots here assuming I'm /pol/. I ain't.

Hahahaha

Oh fuck... He doesn't knoe that christianity was considered worship of a minor chaos god!

> ain't

So you're just a redneck. Also you sound nothing like OP. You're still a faghot, just probably a different one.

[citation and PhD needed]

Because I don't pay attention to children's games, I'm fighting a culture war.

That's pretty harsh, especially considering that ain't is also a part of AAVE.

It's more like "In death, everyone is reduced to a skull." or "Eventually, you will just be a skull".

It's why so many fraternities and secret organizations have Skulls as their emblems. It's not because they're death worshipers, it's because they're ambitious and want their members to remember their mortality.

Memento Mori and all that. Death is a Great equalizer, but also a reminder to use your time wisely.

DC and the surrounding counties are literally parasites on the test of the country. You produce nothing of value. Only suffering.

So, much like 40k in that respect.

>We must secure a future for white children, you're a degenerate, let's gas the kikes, What are you, a cuck? Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger

/pol/-speak thread.

Also, to take your question seriously, I was under the impression the skulls motif in Warhammer was more about how grim the setting was (reminders of death and mortality everywhere), not about everyone being the same.

>these state that are home to hundreds of thousands of human lives only matter to homosexual sex workers
Wow, please continue exposing yourself as a shameless bigot.

>I'm a mutur aduhlt who dusn't plah games
So take your stupid culture war and imaginary sky-friend relgion back to your shitty containment board.