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Venator stronk, Victory a shit

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>Venator is only play in shit-tier Starship Battles.
>Victory is play in god-tier Star Wars: Armada.

This kills the Venator.

Ah, but both are in top-tier Imperial Civil War mod for EAW
Both victorys and venators are stronk, for the record

I don't know. It just seems like there isn't much real use for it. If you want heavy starfighters you could always stick a bunch of ARC-170s into your ISD.

Repostan
Let me put a stop to your feeble efforts.

Who the fuck was this guy in Starfighter anyway? Him and his weird ass fighter, which looks Nubian, are never seen nor heard from again. Was he an agent of the First Order from another timeline? Was he Mirror Universe Rhys Dallows? Who the fuck was this guy?

>acquire venator
>strip out flight deck
>install big-ass ion cannon (think Malevolence type of FUCK YOU ion cannon)

Ok, it's no Death Star but it could probably hit way above it's weight. especially if it had a DP-20 or Carrack class corvette as escort

But can an ISD spitball?

My guess is a young Jango Fett.

Except for whatever content the new films will bring to the table, what ships are there left that are likely to get ported to X-wing?

Fuck Ion Cannons. Copy 40k and install an assload of torpedo launchers, drown everybody in thermonukes.

You could do that on an ISD. That's the problem. Everything you could do to a Venator you could do to a superior ship better. The only thing the Venator has got going for it is looks and starfighter carrying capabilities.

Rebs
>H-60 Tempest
>Delta-9
>V-19 Torrent
>LAATi
>XJ/Stealth-X
>T-Wing
>R-41 Starchaser

Imps
>Assault Gunboat
>Escort Shuttle (probably a title for the Lambda?)
>Missile Boat
>I-7 Howlrunner
>Chiss Clawcraft
>TIE Droid
>TIE Raptor
>all the TIE Experimentals
>Skipray Blastboat
>Preybird
>A.9 Vigilance

Scum
>V-19 Torrent
>V-Wing
>Skipray Blastboat
>Bellubab-22
>Ginivex-Class
>Preybird
>Supa Fighter
>T-Wing
>Pinook
>Cloakshape

Can't get an ISD on surplus though

I wonder if there's a star cruiser equivalent for cosmoline

You end up blowing him. Check out the logo on that ship. It's the same symbol Nym has, which is the logo of the Lok Revenants. My guess is this guy was supposed to be a rival pirate leader and you were to help Nym take him down but the whole story was very simplified and cut up in the final game.

How many of these do you think FFG would ever actually use?

>the Venator is the Mosin Nagant of capital ships
Great... now i'm envisioning spess slavs riding around in wood-paneled Venators

starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Race_Kartan

It's most likely this guy.

>The Duergo was Race Kartan's personal starfighter. A battle occurred between Kartan and Jango Fett where many vessels were destroyed, including multiple Missile Frigates and mercenary starfighters. During the course of the battle, Fett disabled the Duergo to collect his bounty on Kartan.
>The Duergo appears as the primary target in the Jango Fett bonus mission of Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter. This ship has the same 3D model as the Unidentified mercenary craft from Star Wars Starfighter.

That bonus mission was most likely a prequel to SW Starfighter.

Imagine a Venator with a screen door.

If you want a cheap capital ship, then sure go for a Venator. You'd take down starfighter-focused pirate gangs for sure. You'd end up being one yourself. Just remember though, both the Rebels and the Empire will class you as a frigate no matter how much you show your dick off to your scum friends.

I'll be surprised if we don't at least get the Assault Gunboat/Missile Boat, Skipray Blastboat and the Cloakshape.
Less likely but still possible are R-41 Starchaser, Supafigther and Chiss Clawcraft.

The rest? Pipedreams of an old fool.

and wouldn't you know it: TOR gave us a Spess Mosin to go with it.

So, what's the Slav-iest race in all of Star Wars?

Theoretically, couldn't you also add in flight decks to an ISD?

>Theoretically, couldn't you also add in flight decks to an ISD?
There's the Tector-class, which is an ISD with no flight decks at all.. so I'm sure there can be a variant with the flight decks + more flight decks added onto it. The ISD design seems to be very modular.

yeah the BL-28 is definitely the Mosin of the Old Republic era. The more modern one would be the Bryar rifle as the spess Mosin. Because pic related is clearly a spess Obrez.

Did we ever get a good image of the XJ X-Wing off of FFG?

ISDs don't have nearly as much dedicated fighter space as a Venator. An ISD can only carry 72 TIEs of various design at any given time, a squadron or two is usually geared towards a specific role, like Bombers. A single Venator can carry 192 V-wings (or similar sized craft) supposedly 192 Eta-2 Actis interceptors (despite the fact we rarely see them used by clones), 36 ARC-170s (which, frankly, take up a lot of space) and 40 LAAT transports.

If we just consider the numbers of V-wings and ARCs on a Venator, the sheer number of TIEs that could be packed into a single Venator would be terrifying. Rather than dealing with a squadron or two in an engagement, you're suddenly pitted against dozens, or even hundreds of TIEs. The Venator only needs to take your shields down before your ship is torn apart piecemeal fighters.

>Spess Obrez
This pleases the /k/ommando.

Got a picture of the full rifle version?

Always nice to know. I know the production was limited to... Pretty much just three or five, wasn't it? (I think there was more than one in the old EU at least because the one at the battle of Endor was destroyed I think and then later the New Republic captured one with Rogue Squadron. And realized they had little idea what to do with a ship that massive) But you think the modularity carried onto the Super Star Destroyers?

>Just remember though, both the Rebels and the Empire will class you as a frigate no matter how much you show your dick off to your scum friends.
What are you even on about?
Literally everything calls it a Star Destroyer or occasionally a Cruiser, but never a frigate

>I know the production was limited to... Pretty much just three or five, wasn't it?
Are you talking about SSDs? In legends, somewhere between twelve and twenty-ish Executors were built, plus several other classes

>Got a picture of the full rifle version?

There is no official pic of a Bryar Rifle, not even stats (at least not what i've found) but there are some fan speculations on how a Bryar Rifle would look, since Kyle's Bryar pistol is described as a cut-down Bryar rifle

>But you think the modularity carried onto the Super Star Destroyers?

Doubt it. They weren't very popular after Sheev died. Neither the Imp Remnant/Fel Empire nor the New Republic/Galactic Alliance had much use for them. The post-Sheev Empire no longer needed to inspire fear since it didn't rule the Galaxy and the planets it had under it were willingly supportive of the Empire's government. Meanwhile the GA/NR, despite facing a constantly fucking rebelling Corellia, don't use it or use lighter 'Star Defenders' because they're both 1. cheaper than the Executor SSDs and 2. It's not good for propaganda to use Imperial weapons.

>Copy 40k
Dude, you never go full retard.

Maybe the Venator is the ship-of-line for the Scum's introduction into Armada?

You can call it triple-S; stolen, surplus or salvage. Pirates, Hutts, Petty Warlords and Intendant Systems probably all grabbed their fair share.

Because, for some reason or another, Venators are listed as a 'frigate' as one of their roles (alongside Destroyer, Starfighter Carrier, Military Transport, and Command Ship).

It's only a frigate if you go full-Tarkin and use it exclusively for it's guns. The Venator is a carrier, first and foremost. inb4 'Secutors are better carriers!'. Still carries less than a Venator, still considered lightly armed, and also costs over 3 times the price of a single Venator

>Removing Huk with a instrument of the fallen government that forced you to stop removing Huk

A Venator is still a combat capable capital ship that is going to be more powerful than most stuff out there in a straight fight.

I would also say that a lot of venators and other old republic ships were almost certainly sold to the various newly-nationalized planetary defense forces to increase their strength, which was something the empire actually did quite a bit of

The Corporate Sector was established shortly after the New Order. They probably invested heavily in GAR surplus hardware like Venators early on.

Venator vs Katana Fleet Dildoship

which wins?

I would imagine that they picked up more than a couple venators to go with their surplus Invincibles and victories, sure

Venator, easy. I'd guess that it'd take about three dreadnaught-classes for an even go at a venator, four for an assured win

Skippering Dreadfu is suffering

I like the dread too, but it's a heavy cruiser, not a battleship, and you gotta remember that

Well, we know that an ISD sent a trio of dreads running for it under an ion barrage screen. I'd imagine that the same number might pose a solid threat to a Venator/Victory. One on one, it's not even a fight.

Avengers quip humor ruined TFA.

>Ruroh wrong fuse

good dogfights though

Hello inflammatory post from 6 months ago, what are you doing here?

>You end up blowing him.
Its been years since I played the game but I dont remember that part

>play interregnum mod for Sins
>obtain Venator
>puny bombers can't make it past fighter screen
>melt ships with big fuck off laser beam
>play EAW
>Venator still strong
>mfw Venator is best ship all eras

...

>interregnum

my gungan

I'm bringing it back. I started shitposting here when I was unemployed and just put in my two weeks as I prepare to move across the country. So I'll have plenty of time to shitpost here again soon.

Weirdly, space combat is something that 40K usually gets the "most" correct, especially compared to Star Wars.

Lazy setting reboot ruined TFA.

Here's your (you)

...

BFG had a battleship very similar to the Venator, the Nemesis Fleet Carrier it shit out fighters at a prodigious rate and had some long-range lances was totally over-costed mind you.

Been saving that Ctrl+C for awhile there?

For the modular part of SSDs, do note that Legends had the Lusankya sport more anti-starfighter weaponry than it's sister ship the Executor, and had part of its interior adapted to work as a mobile government platform.

Aside from that there's Jerec's Vengeance-class dreadnought, which is based around the Executor-class, apparently, but looks completely different. So modular design wasn't that big for SSDs, which makes sense, being fuckhuge engineering nightmares/ Imperial phallic symbols.

>Admits to shitposting literally due to being a NEET
>Eager to return to the days of ruining /swg/

God this place was such a roller coaster in the weeks and months after TFA huge periods of interest and excitement and then just day-long slogs of aggressive shitposting and fights, though it all...

>quips
>quips
>quips
>quips
>quips

I feel like a fucking Endor survivor.

Don't be silly user!

NOBODY SURVIVED ENDOR

...

they came from the trees man!

they were everywhere man, EVERYWHERE!!

and ZZ-289 was on his last tour and was gonna retire to zeltron and finally open up his little antique shop

Gets fucking wrecked every time by an ISD. Best ship against pirates and TIEs? Yeah, sure. Best of all time? Nah.

We should have listen to KRTZ-9791 man. He said it. He said we should have just sterilsed the little shit out of a 100 mile radius of the base, cut down every fucking tree, salted the earth and erected some proper fortifications. But the higher-ups were like "No, that takes too much resources."

Too much fucking resources. We were building a Death Star right there in orbit. But not enough fucking resources to BDZ a few miles of fucking forest.

We should have listened man. We should have listened to him.

>nukes when even your friagtes are putting out gigatons

Why?

Depends on who's flying it. Thanks to the nutjobs in these threads, I was part of a group that took down an ISD1 in EotE with an upsized Loran Spitball.

>Loran Spitball
Who needs turbolasers when you can just spam fighter weaponry.

Exactly. And when you consider the amount of proton torpedos that a fully-loaded Venator can put into that spitball...

Because going full retard...

>Nukes
>In space

You're throwing a glorified EMP and radiations at a ship that's perfectly shielded against direct solar radiations. Nukes aren't that impressive as spess ordnance unless they detonate inside the hull/atmosphere of the ship. No atmoshere=no shockwave.

You'd still need to pierce through shields and hull, hence the necessity of a fuckton of turbolasers on capital ships.

Also Legends Torpedo Spheres where exaclty this: an assload of torpedo tubes. There sole purpose was busting planetary shields, which required sustained fire and precise orbital calculations as well as a support fleet to exploit any gaps the bombardment made.

tl;dr Star Wars shield technologies make nuke alpha strikes borderline useless.

Well at least you admit your opinion is shit.

BFG was a derpy, broken system, made by a shit company that couldn't possibly care any less about it.

user you aren't thinking hard enough.

>Get assload of 20 meter warheads
>cram them full with the largest yield fusion device available
>slap a hyperdrive on them
>alpha strike, engaged. GG no RE.

The funniest thing to me, is nobody gives a fuck about how badly Ben Hur has been fucking butchered by this remake.

Everyone pretty much wrote it off as a terrible idea and it's estimated to only make $10-15 million on its opening weekend.
The studio didn't even cast a name actor as the lead. It's like they know it won't live up to any expectations but they have to shit out a remake so no one else does.

Or just get an assload of rechargeable, giant, turbo laser batteries.
Don't have to worry about such trivial logistics as "ammunution", or "highly enriched uranium manufacturing".
Slap them on a couple huge battleship we're going to call a "Destroyer", give it hyperdrives, and make a few thousand of the damned things.
Park one or two in low orbit, and glass the planet with turbolaser fire, powerd by your spaceship space-science super reactor.
Keep firing while you sip tea and discuss with Lord Vader the virtues of the new Avengers movie, now with 350% more quips.

Nukes are so last millenium.

But nobody's bitchhing. There's no epic whinefest threads. No massive shitpiles of hate. It's just going to quietly fly into the failure sunset.

Turbolasers don't allow you to completely annihilate the enemy fleet while they're in their home docks from the safety of your planet with FTL super nukes.

Hell with FTL nukes you could probably wipe out multiple planets before they could even raise their shields. Sensors would see them as just a horde of freighters or small craft given they'd be about 60 to 80 feet long.

>KRTZ-9791
You're a good man, user.

Ben Hur was also made in 1959.

I dunno, it'll probably win "The Version of Ben-Hur with the least amount of human and animal casualties" award.

Not that this is a hard one to get.

The production of the first 1930's film was a goddamn black comedy.

There's also been virtually no marketing for it either.

Hell, the last real Ben Hur anything I can think of was done back in pic related. Maybe a TV miniseries?

I'll probably still see it eventually since I'm a sucker for shitty historical/fantasy movies, but I'll wait until it limps out into used video stores.

i dont think you know much about star wars power levels or nukes user

so let me break it down for you *puts on parachute pants*

first off, what makes nukes so destructive is the way they react with the atmosphere. setting off nukes in space is like shooting people underwater, its pretty fucking inefficient

and as far as the "why dont we just FTL ram shit" is that Imperial vessels have retard strength shields and hulls.

His executor being rammed by not one, but 3 ships in FTL and its shields hold up

Good luck anihilating an enemy fleet with your waste-of-time nukes. It's not like fleets don't move or anything, or like you know exactly where they're going to be at any given point in space.

Hitting something with a dumb-fire nuke in space is like trying to throw a rock across a freeway and hit a car. Except the freeway is infinitely long, the cars can move any direction they want, and you're blind.

Also, who the fuck cares about safety in Star Wars!?

Yeah, I go to the movies quite often and I've seen a grand total of one trailer for it in the theater.
In front of fucking Nerve.
I don't think the studio gives enough of a fuck to give it a proper marketing budget.
That was a remake, no less.
It's also old enough that it's not in the realm of childhood nostalgia for this current generation.
Going back to what I said before about a lead, at least the 1959 version had Charlton Fucking Heston. Love him or hate him for his role with the NRA, the guy was a very strong leading man for movies back in the day.
>1930's film
1925, actually.
And yeah, the director wanted the charioteers to look like they were actually racing and offered something like 1200 bucks(in 1920s money) to whoever won.
How many horses did they kill? 20 or something?
Still a pittance compared to the 130+ horses that director killed filming Charge of the Light Brigade.

>Also, who the fuck cares about safety in Star Wars!?
They sure don't care about worker safety having a walkway above fucking lava with no fucking handrails.
Seriously. So much sci-fi needs OSHA.

What said, plus there's precedent about FTL objects not keeping their actual mass and power while in hyperspace.

Your nukes have to revert to realspace to do any damage and many could be shot down by anti-missile defense systems or jammed. There's a reason almost all SW ordnance needs a targeting computer and a targeting solution to hit anything: the ECM game of SW is absurd. Remember: if a Death Star can jam the sensors on an entire fleet that's still kilometers away from gun range, its reasonable to think a capital ship can jam nukes. You're then stuck with ordnance that can only follow a very predictable straight flight pattern in the hopes that it'll hit a shielded, potentially moving target with point defenses.

There's also a precedent in ESB when the Imperial fleet reverts to realspace too close to Hoth: it triggers Rebel sensors, preventing orbital bombardment as they raise their shields. Apparently, detecting shit moving in FTL isn't that hard. And then, supply starved Rebels use a planetary weapon to fuck Star Destoyers in orbit. If Rebels can disable doomsday ships in orbit, imagine what a developed planet could do.

Even the Death Stars don't have basic safety handrails and protection from falling in their kilometer-long reactor shafts.

OSHA could have saved Sheev's life!

>it's a muh nukes episode
>again

>posts non canon comics that were never even canon to begin with because they conflicted with the movies and tv show

Star Wars has always had shitty ships and always will according to canon, their yields are megatons at best and gigatons would laughably slaughter any of capital ships from what we've seen in the movies and TV show. We KNOW how powerful Star Wars ships are courtesy of the Clone Wars TV show when two capital ships slug it out in-atmosphere, meaning there isn't a vacuum to prevent fireballs. Nothing fired is even close to nuclear level, the ships destroy each other with what wouldn't be out of place from a cruise missile.

Being rammed at FTL speeds would completely annihilate a Star Destroy according to canon, anybody who believes otherwise either was ignoring the old canon system of Movies > Clone Wars 3D Show > Books, Comics, Videogames > Old Marvel Comics.

Nah, that pit had a handrail, Vader just chucked him over it.

>What said, plus there's precedent about FTL objects not keeping their actual mass and power while in hyperspace.
Of course they have their actual fucking mass in Hyperspace, or else no human would be able to survive jumping and would die instantly. The only way for humans to survive jumping at FTL speeds is for physics to be preserved as we know them, or else humans go splat, spaghettified, or wholly vaporized.

>Being rammed at FTL speeds would completely annihilate a Star Destroy according to canon,
You're right that that comic isn't canon, but you're wrong about what is. You see, canonically, if something in hyperspace hits the mass shadow of something in realspace , it is destroyed completely, without effecting real space one tiny bit

Except Star Wars FTL makes the ship shift dimensions. They ain't ordinary matter anymore, meaning those Star Destroyers ramming the Executor don't have the same impact as the same two ships actually ramming the SSD in realspace.

If FTL ramming was a thing, an FTL accident could very well destroy planets. And yet the Empire needs Death Stars for that.

>If FTL ramming was a thing, an FTL accident could very well destroy planets. And yet the Empire needs Death Stars for that.
Actually that happened once in Legends. Old Republic capital ship smashed into a planet when making a jump to hyperspace and nearly destroyed the world.

Fairly certain that I've read somewhere that a ship's shield or hyperdrive is what maintains the ship's internal physics and cohesion. Going outside the ship is suicide, though.

If not, why wouldn't the Rebels just throw FTL junk at Imperial targets?

funny you should bring up the clone wars, the same series that has ships going from the ground to high orbit within a minute and vice versa

not to mention the episode Jedi crash where we have a ship pass through the corna of a star with windows open and the crew inside dont get so much as a sunburn

you know what, fuck trying to reply to this bait, brain young goes into the cross sections pretty well here

scifights.net/ics.mp4

I could see a kilometer-long ship crashing on a planet being a doomsday event.

But if said object hits a planet at the speed of light? Planet's gone.

youtu.be/e0Hf4Zend_Q

muh gigatons

Oh and let's not forget that "durasteel" canonically is weaker than titanium according to the new canon TFA cross section book, meaning Starships have some pretty mediocre armor.

Canon seems to show that FTL jumps into stellar objects will destroy the ship and nothing else. Otherwise, Anakin probably wouldn't have set that one ship to jump into a planet if it meant that the planet would have been destroyed in the process.

Can't remember the episode (drinking doesnt help any, but I couldn't remember which one it was even sober), but it happened in TCW at the end of one story arc.