Also just getting this out of the way, No pod should not be unbanned. It is too powerful and consistent. It will only get stronger as better creatures are printed. New, one time use, tutors are a far more reasonable for of tutor. Like eldritch evolution, chord of calling, or collected company
Jason Flores
pod was the most fun deck in modern cant believe its gone RIP
Jonathan Scott
Pod did nuffin wrong
Ian Lopez
What's Suicide Zoo, exactly?
Carter Morales
mutagenic growth, probe, become immense, deaths shadow
Ian Parker
Causing damage to yourself in terms of Phrexian mana normally, to activate Deaths Shadow, for a cheap boomstick.
Owen Miller
It's pay 100+ dollarydoos for mishra's baubles, realize you are dumb and modern is a shit format
Sebastian Ross
And here i am having a full playset cause i bought them for manaless dredge years ago
Xavier Peterson
Sell em quick and replace them with Urza's Bauble, basically same effect but on like a 50c card
Dominic Morgan
Man I remember playing pod in standard when they shortly after announced modern, but I was kind of leaving magic at the time
was melira pod the shit or was it just an early archetype?
Chase Scott
>Modern is a constructed format and therefore adheres to the following constructed rules:
Minimum of sixty cards No maximum deck size, as long as you can shuffle your deck unassisted Up to fifteen cards in your sideboard, if used With the exception of basic lands (Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, and Forest), your combined deck and sideboard may not contain more than four of any individual card, counted by its English card title equivalent.
Note: The five snow-covered lands from the Ice Age block—Snow-Covered Plains, Snow-Covered Island, Snow-Covered Swamp, Snow-Covered Mountain, and Snow-Covered Forest—are also basic lands. Snow-covered lands are only permitted in formats that allow expansions from the Ice Age block.
The following card sets are permitted in Modern tournaments:
Eldritch MoonShadows over InnistradOath of the GatewatchBattle for ZendikarMagic OriginsDragons of TarkirFate ReforgedKhans of TarkirMagic 2015Journey into NyxBorn of the GodsTherosMagic 2014Dragon's MazeGatecrashReturn to RavnicaMagic 2013Avacyn RestoredDark AscensionInnistradMagic 2012New PhyrexiaMirrodin BesiegedScars of MirrodinMagic 2011Rise of the EldraziWorldwakeZendikarMagic 2010 Alara Reborn Conflux Shards of Alara Eventide Shadowmoor MorningtideLorwyn Tenth EditionFuture SightPlanar ChaosTime SpiralColdsnapDissensionGuildpactRavnica: City of GuildsNinth EditionSaviors of KamigawaEighth EditionBetrayers of KamigawaChampions of KamigawaFifth DawnDarksteel Mirrodin
Mason Hernandez
Recently finished my soul sisters deck. All I'm missing is 2x Auriok Champion which I have to wait on cuz money. Also, haven't decided what to buy first, 2x Auriok Champion or Flagstones, or should I just leave as is? what do you think?
If I were to get the champions I would just swap out a souls attendant and a soul warden for both champions. For Flagstones just replace some plains
Anyway so far it hasn't been beat in my social circle and I haven't tried it out in a tournament at a local game store (I'm too shy to just walk up to people and play) but I think it'll do good.
pls rate
Soul Sisters
Creatures: 2x Archangel of Thune 1x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben 4x Soul Warden 4x Souls Attendant 1x Martyr of Sands 3x Ranger of Eos 4x Ajani's Pridemate 3x Serra Ascendant
Instants: 4x Path to Exile 1x Secure the Wastes 3x Brave the Elements 2x Sundering Growth
Sorceries: 4x Spectral Procession
Enchantments: 2x Honor of the Pure 1x Rest in Peace
Sideboard: I have none, but I heard Stony Silence and suppression field are good
Ayden Brooks
Fuck got those too. They are both shit cards that do nothing. Any deck that runs them in modern that isnt storm, is down card slots. But people will still play. Lord knows why though
Grayson Anderson
Manaless dredge is a common legacy deck which has no such restrictions, unless I am mistaken when the person I was replying to said "I bought them for mana less dredge years ago" it seems likely that is to what he was refering you fuck
Grayson Sanchez
Wut?
Parker Perez
What do you think of lone rider? Been thinking about getting into modern with SS and honestly was thinking about using these.
William Kelly
a two mana 1/1 that requires set-up to make an impact isn't that good in modernd
Dylan Scott
A lot of the time it wont require set up and will just be a 4/4 first strike lifelink trample on your opponents turn. Im the innexperienced one here so you are probably correct, but I just dont see it as a huge investment or anything.
Isaac Wood
i agree with the user that gave you the reply, it could slow down your deck
I haven't seen much of EM or any of the newer sets..
Have you tried cracking into modern with a budget deck like mono red burn?
Ethan Garcia
Its mostly to get out of the house and play at my LGS haha, they have a lot of modern players.
If anything I want to play a delver variant but I know they are not super powerful, and I would have to slowly purchase snapcasters over time haha.
Gavin Anderson
How does it not require set up? You have to gain 3 life
Jayden Russell
jesus man, i can feel your autism from over here
Carter White
I had to slowly build this one too, the availability of rangers and serra ascendants is pretty scarce, not to mention their price haha
but it's a fun and competitive deck.
Jackson Foster
For a moment, let's assume that when Kaladesh gets released, WotC unbans Stoneforge Mystic.
What decks does she get put into? Any new brews that come out from her being legal?
Brandon Diaz
People are buying into "grow the Tarmogoyf" in decks that run 1 Tarmogoyf.
Hunter Jenkins
makes mardu not entirely shit. makes junk dope. probably dnt and bw tokens.
Nathan Lopez
Fuck Jund.
Lincoln Brooks
or you can run a card that actually does something.
Owen Rodriguez
Reposting from last thread.
Alright boys and girls, going to make a zooicide list but I'm forgoing the baubles, for two reasons: 1) price spike, they were reasonable but now they're unreasonably priced 2) 80% of the deck is sorc speed which means drawing a card on their turn could give you a creature/spell/bauble you don't want
The upside is free delve fodder and +1 swiftspear points, the downside is that you might get btfo by your own topdeck bauble.
Most lists run 2 Bolt, so adding 2 more would be easy. I've got Manamorphose but that seems super shitty as it's 2 mana, but I could test with one and see how it works out.
Basically, Baubleless Zooicide, give me your thoughts.
Nolan Long
>dredge >common
not anymore, too much geaveyard hate
Bentley Brown
dredge is a common legacy deck, but manaless not so much
Nathan Price
The real problem is that it's a 4/4 that actually dies to Lightning Bolt. The deck can consistently flip it, but not before the time where it's a 1/1 is relevant.
In Soul Sisters, he said.
Connor Russell
its not like one has better chances than the other with all the shit happening in legacy decks graveyards.
Wyatt Moore
There are quite a few thibgs in this newer sets, from this block only we have:
>New Thalia >New Avacyn >Declaration in Stone (AKA: Sorcery-Speed Megapath to Exile) >Thalia's Lieutenant >Rattlechains >Thing in the Ice >Asylum Visitor >Diregraf Colossus >Relentless Dead >Falkenrath Gorger >Sin Prodder >Cryptolith Rite >Duskwatch Recruiter >Seasons Past >Traverse the Ulvenwald >Sorin >Nahiri >Olivia >Prized Amalgam >Planeswalker CoCo >Sigarda's Aid >Gisela, Bruna & Brisela >Collective Effort, Brutality & Defiance >Selfless Spirit >Lone Rider >Mausoleum Wanderer >Niblis of Frost >Wharf Infiltrator >Docent of Perfection >Wish for Spaghetti Monster >Curious Homunculus >Unsubstantiate >Liliana, The Last Hope for a LOTV Reprint >Tree of Perdition >Cryptbreaker >Oath of Cream-Filled >Voldaren Pariah >Hymn to Emrakul >Bedlam Reveler >Hanweir the land, Hanweir the creature & Hanweir the kick-ass Volthros Legend (Honorable mention goes to the Gitgud Monster) >Red Donate >Shreds of Sanity >Splendid Reclamation >Permeating Mass >Eldritch Evolution >Gnarlwood Dryad >Floprakul >The Craterhog Behemoth, also known as Baconator of Counties, also known as Mandatory-Green-Fatty-of-the-set >Distended Mindbender >Elderly Best-Friend >Eternal Scourge >Tamiyo and the Colorpie Controversy >Grim Flayer, Sensei's Pet Tarmogoyf >Gisa and Geralf >Spell Quell-Yourself >Volthros' Pirate Looting Mikoro >Nephalia Academy Always end with a strong one.
This block is full of pretty awesome, fun cards and even some potentially game-changing stuff. We'll have to see just how much of an impact all these end up having in the different formats, but its safe to say that, all things considered, this is a pretty awesome block.
Mason Clark
Kys
Brayden Bennett
Zooicide player here, Baubles are one of the best cards in the deck. Looking at the top card of your library before using a Gitaxian Probe/Street Wraith draw allows you to fetch first if you don't like the card. More information about your combo aggro plan is always key. It also easily fuels your Delve cards and Swiftspear prowess triggers. Enabling Delirium for Gnarlwood Dryad (testing over Steppe Lynx) seems like another useful application.
Reading those increased my win percentage drastically.
Luke Parker
Would a card like this see play in modern?
Bentley Bailey
No. him.
Camden Hernandez
DESTROY ME Veeky Forums
4 Nyx-Fleece Ram 4 Courser of Kruphix 4 Eidolon of Blossoms 4 Herald of the Pantheon 4 Ethereal Armor 4 Journey to Nowhere 4 Kruphix's Insight 2 Sigil of the Empty Throne 4 Sunpetal Grove 7 Forest 4 Banishing Light 2 Stasis Snare 4 Windswept Heath 7 Plains 2 Oblivion Ring SB: 2 Ghostly Prison SB: 2 Leyline of Sanctity SB: 2 Rest in Peace SB: 2 Stony Silence SB: 2 Choke SB: 2 Seal of Primordium
Jace Brooks
Looks like ..fun..
Levi Brooks
The vast majority of these are hot garbage
Aaron Reyes
Is Aristocrats possible in modern, Veeky Forums? Help me refine this list. Looking for improvements, secret tech, hope that this isn't a worthless endeavor, etc.
If you're too ashamed to even post a card in /ccg/, you might as well delete MSE entirely.
Alexander Lopez
Fuck off.
Daniel Thompson
Thanks. I totally understand bauble's power (in a temur goyf swiftspear deck it also does work) but I refuse to buy a playset. It gives you a free delve/swiftspear and has cool fetch tech, have you ever whiffed from it though??
It seems like an icing card, like oboro in a merfolk mirror or canopies in boggles, or burnwillows. I'm going to build the deck as I have almost all the cards, but I'm going to build it without those 4 cards as I don't plan to take it to a GP or anything.
So far, my thoughts are to add a land (especially since -4 cantrips it might not be a bad idea) and add a singleton Postmortem Lunge. I was thinking about what cards I could add for the final two slots, either more bolts or something whacky? That's really what I need help with.
Those guides are also a testament to how awesome the deck is, there's so many lines of play, lotta ins lotta outs.
Adam Roberts
spoopy scary
Josiah Powell
2spoopy4me
No dismember? Try it over murder
Nathan Mitchell
>no reassembling skeltal not even a good meme
Kayden Gonzalez
Zooicide is a deck that only has about twenty cards it actually wants to play. It tries to combo off as consistently as possible, so mishras bauble really is good. The fact that you might topdeck a street wraith seems even worse than bauble, and bauble can help you shuffle it or git probe away with a fetchland.
I never played the deck, so I dont know exactly how necessary it is.
Isaiah Gutierrez
It's a bucket of tiny synergies. All of them are really minute, but they come together to be a good fit.
You realize that it's not actually necessarily a bad thing, right? Running 52 cards instead of 60 improves consistency quite a lot. Plus fetches. So probably closer to 44~45.
Thomas Davis
Xth for >magmaspray is better just kidding its not fuck all you and your memes
Gabriel Martin
>Sideboard: >I have none So your deck does absolutely nothing against combo or control as you're playing a grindy midrange deck that's only good when playing against creatures?
This looks like what MaRo wants Modern to be like.
Shouldn't ghostly prison be main, as 50%+ of the metagame is agro?
Parker Wilson
I think Mardu Tokens is a strictly better deck, without having playing either. Aristocrats leave you vulnerable to spot removal. Playing a creature or token spell and sacrificing them to a demon only for me to Path to Exile your demon gives me a free 2-for-1 (not counting the free fetch from Path). A pure tokens deck doesn't have this problem.
Jason Martin
Ok first off, we are in meme terrority, and skeletons are a strictly worse Zombies. However, that doesn't mean the deck can't be fun, so let's get into it.
Look up Death Baron. Never play Auras. You are begging for me to Lightning Bolt your zombie in response, giving me a free 2-for-1. You have no way of dealing with an Ensnaring Bridge, Ghostly Prison or other cards that make you flat out lose the game. Consider splashing white to gain access to removal and better sideboard cards. You currently have no way to interact with planeswalkers sans attacking them.
Cut your 4 auras, add 4 Death Baron Cut 6 Swamps, add 4 Isolated Chapel and 2 Caves of Koilos Cut 4 Grasp of Darkness, add 4x Anguished Unmaking Cut Throne of Bone and add 2x Athreos, God of Passage (he resembles a skeleton and looks spooky/10) There, your deck went from a pile of shit to a tier 50 meme deck
Dylan Ross
>mishra's baubles >rfw sold a playset of mishra's baubles a few month ago for pennies whiem compared to the current price
Alexander Cruz
>magmaspray not >pillar of flame
Jeremiah Torres
>pillar of flame >magmaspray
>what is tarfire
Christian Collins
>Pod will only get stronger as better creatures are printed You mean just like every other deck in the game? Burn got stronger when Eidolon and Swiftspear were printed.
>It will only get stronger as better creatures are printed. Its retards like you that make Modern a shit format.
Pod doesn't stifle "better" creatures from being printed, it stifles terribly designed cards like Meme Rhino that cheat CMC heavily and have splashy ETB effects. Pod didnt prevent "better" creatures, it prevented lazy "aggressively but highly costed" ones that do nothing in Modern and fuck up Standard.
You know what does stifle the types of creatures that can be printed? A 4 mana instant speed board tutor that pulls an auto 2-for-1 and cheats a pile of mana.
People bitched about Twin stifling Blue's power, suddenly now Wizards can't print good cards in CoCo colours under 3 CMC at all, because each and every powerful card printed linearly increases the potential power and splashiness of a given Company hit. It doesn't matter how well designed the card is, if it's quality and below 3 CMC, CoCo will jam it in with no questions asked and try to lucksack it or Chord it.
To top it off, it stifles deckbuilding too, because in order to take advantage of the literal best thing you can do in a toolbox deck, you have to load out your entire deck with literally nothing but sub 3cmc creatures, and completely ignore entire aspects of deckbuilding just to compete in the archetype.
Wyatt Rivera
I called Company as a stupid card the instant I saw the spoiler.
#makeremovalgreatagain
Ian Wright
Ha! Trading mine for a playset of metalworkers.
Cameron Perry
I hope you got Cities already
James Walker
I would really like them to print good control cards again
Heavily leaning on fucking Mana Leak as the best counterspell in modern is fucking pathetic
Leo Lee
>maro hates draw-go >maro hates red burn >mfw they just keep terrible midrange cards forever and eventually it overtakes the format because nothing else gets printed
Luis Flores
...no, i held off on those.
Also, when the FUCK is crucible gonna be reprinted? Its fucking absurd that a card with almost zero impact in standard hasn't been reprinted when the price tag is that high
Christian Perry
Just get them from chinaman. I'm already considering doing that due to the fucking second hand market being over inflated while wizards do fucking nothing about it.
Adam Perry
Almost kill yourself then try to kill turn three. Also play some expensive jewelry, why did it spike so much?
Jaxson Nguyen
They should reprint counterspell at Mythic with no other good counter in the standard legal sets around it. No impact on limited, no impact on standard because even if you jam 4 counterspells in every blue deck if there are no other good counters it can hardly be oppressive.
Ryan Gray
>still needed baubbles for my suicide zoo deck >look up price today
O..oh.. well.. I guess I'll just play kird ape..
Henry Wood
Which chinamen you thinking about?
Jason Bennett
Has anyone tested eldritch evolution yet? got a prerelease promo one and I'm debating if I should trade it now or wait.
Robert Ross
Villa zheng
Noah Sullivan
Thanks user
Nicholas Flores
Hold on to it. I've heard talk of a 1-drop, 3-drop, 5-drop get that might just get it into modern.
Jaxon Carter
The GP is right upon us, so we'll see just how good these cards are. Also when Standard rotates these will be some of the strongest cards in the format.
But above all, these are undeniably fun, which is more than it can be said about many past blocks. Not all cards are for Spikes you dunce.
As lobg as I get replies and people discussing the new cards idgaf.
Eli Price
>turn one birds of paradise >Turn two Evolution into Kitchen Finks >Turn three Evolution into ???? >PROFIT
Luke Gomez
Swagtusk? What kilker 5 drop is there? Serra angel
Cooper Morales
Spell queller will probably be annoying. maybe mono black control with liliana of the veil, the rack and ensnaring bridge will see play again thanks to emrakuls whispers? Emrakul could see play too tho newlamog just seems better. I've found a emerge zombie decklist and changed a few things so it can compete with modern decks to test elder deep fiend and mindbreaker, it's fun so far.
Cooper Adams
...
Carter Hall
BANESLAYER ANGEL.
Fuck, I would love to build g/w eldritch angels but it probably won't work.
Jeremiah Scott
No one would want to play against eldrazi pod though, podding matter reshaper into thought knot seer seems too powerful for my liking
Henry Cruz
Sundering growth and rest in peace are sideboard cards
Ryder Wright
>Using Emrakul's power to cheat out the only Angel who could resist Emrakul's influence Absolutely herecy. Looks powerful, though.
there is this abzan aristocrats that is pretty interesting
Robert Mitchell
Prices are unstable right now and are recovering from that autistic buyout. The prices are stabilizing so keep track of the prices day by day.
Noah Nguyen
Rumour has it that people are refusing to buy Bauble at 45$, looking for other offers, other cards or just another deck entirely.
Jeremiah Young
>45$
It's still like $20 on eBay, who is buying at over $30?
Logan Thompson
No one, but some are trying to sell them for over 40.
Henry Ramirez
The thing is, you don't sac stuff haphazardly. Greedy saccing is how you get blown the fuck out. You play Butcher and Aristocrat on curve in conjunction with cards that generate bodies without further investment, then only sac when necessary.
Xavier Baker
>You only sac when necessary When is that, if not all the time because you're trying to beat me down faster than I execute a combo or lock down control?
Matthew Torres
For Aristocrat, generally only to save it from removal. For Butcher, it's much more situational. You sac for lifelink if you're behind on life to an aggressive deck and need the cushion. You sac for haste if you really need to close the gap, and you sac for vigilance if you really need the blocker. You also have to keep your opponent's open mana in mind before committing, and be careful with when and what you sac. Main-phasing a token spell into sacrifices is almost always the wrong way to play.
Jace Rogers
And see all the boys crying because their 7cmc creature was countered by a 2 cmc spell? asking us why would we print such a broken and unfair card? Not while i'm alive