Guy playing Woman

"magical realm" is a meme. Folks will cry that mind control or influence in any form -- Charm Person or even Suggestion -- are magical realm, and that it should never appear in their games. Good luck removing vampires from every setting ever.

I don't think we'll ever stop having this thread.

Every GM ever plays female characters. It's not weird. It's not magical realm. It's not indicative of some kind of fetish. You are literally playing a "role playing game". Nobody's going to think you're weird because you're playing Ripley instead of Duke Nukem.

Nah, you just slut it up because all women are whores and bitches, planning to fuck chad all day and then steal some rich dudes money :^)))))
Feel free to use this for your paper, Prof. MarxistPostmodernism

This, pretty much. As long as you don't make a walking fetish, no one cares.

This is why you have subtle fetishes.
>I tie the giantess up

>president
Precedent.

Played with a guy who crossplayed a few times. He wasn't so bad about it, though his lady-PCs were always quite snarky, but he knew the boundaries. I trust him to do it decently.

Had a different guy who was playing a lolrandumb hyper-sexualized bard who made cringey sex jokes with every breath (he was fond of grossing people out), and helped crash a campaign. The dude even developed a headcanon metaplot about his character dimension-hopping because of how many games he's wrecked while playing her. Needless to say I didn't play with him very long. But he was just one player out of dozens I've gamed with.

I've played with several women who have crossplayed. They weren't so bad for the most part. One woman was playing a disturbing sex-obsessed dude, but that was ages ago and the rest of the women were able to play non-cringey men.

So yeah, girl or guy, you'd have to somehow earn my trust before being allowed to crossplay. If a player was to hang out with me for an extended period before the game, in a casual environment, and seem like a reasonably sane human being all night, I'd probably allow him to crossplay in my game. If I were to ask the player how he intends to play the character, a sufficiently-reassuring answer may also convince me, though I reserve the right to remove that privilege if he violates my trust. Basically you have to prove that you're reasonably mature, not a misogynist basket-case, and have some clue about how females work.

>not a misogynist basket-case
>in order to play women
>you must not hate women to play women

Now tell me user, why would someone like that want to play a female with a -4 STR?
It seems to me that you're using the term wrong, almost like a buzzword insult.

1. Is she just masturbation fuel? Because that will make things weird
2. Is there any member of your group that gets grubby with females role players/characters/NPCs? If so, don't play a woman unless you're ready to knock some heads together
3. Can you flesh her out to be more than a pair of tits? Can you make her without adding some disgusting backstory? If you include something like rape, ex prostitute, or something just as potentially cringey the answer is no

Better questions:

A) Is YOUR GROUP comfortable with you playing a woman?

B) Do you think you can avoid making it wierd? Like really wierd? Like joke or wish fulfillment wierd?

C) If it's going to be wierd, will this be entertaining to you and your group?

D) If it's entertaining because it's wierd, how long will this novelty last before you're saddled with a dead joke of a character?

This is a perfectly fine place to start, get off your high horse because of feminist tropes.

>get off your high horse because of feminist tropes.
What does this even mean.

It means that feminists bitch when a woman character's vagina isn't front and center in the conception of the character

I don't follow. At all.

Regardless, as someone who once spent a great deal of time on FFN, there's nothing more tiring than seeing an existing character in the setting get a gender flip, then be treated as if they're a new character when they're very much not.

Is it me, or does she look like she wants to fuck Ms. Pac-Man?
I'll stop posting now.

>How weird is it to play a robot character as a human?

Check your privilege, organic scum.

I technically do this all the fucking time when I GM. And I play kids. It's not weird as the GM, probably because I'm in more control of the situation. For PCs I just play dudes, because why make it complicated. If you're a tranny play a lady. Why rack your brain and make your roleplaying stunted

>chick just looking at something means she wants to fuck it

Lay off the porn dude.

>posting a response that will bait out a reply from the guy who said he was done posting

devilish dude.

fuckin rad

Why should it be weird? Theatre has been entirely male for the largest part of our history with men playing the roles of women as well. Isn't that why we indulge in fantasy, to be something we are not? Unless you are playing with normies, your group won't give a shit.

I've played two female characters, and it was about as awkward as reading a novel with a female protagonist. If you're capable of reading a story from a female POV, that means you have enough empathy to imagine roleplaying from a female POV.

That said, I've only ever played female characters on the internet, not in person. So all the dialogue was text. I didn't have to try and speak in a female voice.

If we were playing via Skype or TeamSpeak or something, I would probably avoid playing female characters because I would prefer to avoid doing female voices.

I once knew a guy who was told to not play his female character so he played literally that same character with a fake mustache who constantly slipped up and referred to (him(?))self as a woman.

It was pretty fun.

I have a bad habit of crossplaying

But lets cut to the core of the issue

This is only a problem with
A) You make it a sex thing or
B) you're a shitty person with an unhealthy mental image of women

A is a problem because magical realm is a problem and B is a problem because its bad roleplay and makes your shitty problems transparently obvious.

It only gets weird if you are a weirdo or playing with weirdos.

Play with normal people and there won't be a problem.

I'll generally only play males, but I crossplayed a female character in a high school setting Persona game. I was worried at first because guys playing high school girls is just asking for trouble, especially in a game that strongly encouraged the characters to form bonds with one another. I got around it by being a massive tomboy with absolutely zero interest in dating. It was a lot of fun, and the group was good about it.

I only played a woman because of the vast gap in male and female PC's.

It's only off-putting under certain circumstances, which a lot of crossplayers unfortunately fall into. If you play your character as a walking sexist stereotype or sex fantasy, you're going to make everyone around you cringe. If you play them like a complex human being with an actual personality and goals, then you'll be fine.

Is beeing around females weird for you OP? If so i have bad news, but if not, then a female character played by a male is absolutly fine. By character i mean a real character not an excuse to fuck everything (but that can be done by a male too so..) does the character have a persobality? If the answer is yes, then maybe you're uncomfortable with it because of some inner problem with your own personality.

What's weird is playing a role-playing game and yet insisting on only playing characters who are superficially like yourself.

Why do you have no problem playing an elf or a dwarf but think playing a woman is weird?

this
and this, despite the dumb use of "meme" to mean "thing I don't like"

I'll be honest, outside of Veeky Forums I don't see magical realm bullshit at all. Most people aren't sex-obsessed degenerates who immediately get horny at the thought of whatever weird fetish you got from /d/. There's a time and a place for that shit. I suppose it's theoretically possible I simply haven't noticed any, but if that's the case, what is the harm done?

>How weird is it to play a female character as a guy?
No more than a human playing an elf
>Is it inherently of-putting?
No

>Or does it only get weird under certain circumstances?
It's only weird if you make it weird

Not very weird. You must endure endless jokes about your character getting ploughed though.

>precedence

Especially in any campaign with character death any kind of likelihood, I hardly expect every PC ever to be a truly original character donut steel. There's nothing wrong with taking some direct inspiration so long as you aren't overly literal about it and make it fit the setting.

Not gonna spend over 9000 hours making an original character donut steel just to have them get killed by a random encounter.

>A) Is YOUR GROUP comfortable with you playing a woman?
If anyone isn't comfortable with a guy playing a woman, ask them directly, to their face, why they have a problem with it.

Because the traditional Veeky Forums concerns sure sound like fucking creepy projection in person. Seriously, if I tried to enter a game with a female character and the GM accused me of satisfying a fetish I'd throw it in his face. Most, no, the overwhelming majority of people, are not creepy fetishists with no concept of appropriateness.

>I didn't have to try and speak in a female voice.
I wouldn't try it even in person, unless it was a comedy campaign or I was a really talented vocalist. Even most professional male voice actors can't pull off a convincing woman's voice, though most women VAs can do a boy or a sufficiently diminutive man.

I mean not to be pedantic, but by the actual definition of the word, "magical realm" is a meme.

In my group, we use character voices to distinguish IC and OOC dialogue. If you're playing a woman, you had best be prepared to falsetto that shit.

It is, but that's not the sense of the word that was intended in the post I was replying to, and both of us know that.

>need to convincingly imitate a voice appropriate to your character's sex

I don't buy it. I've played with loads of people, especially GMs, crossplaying without doing this. All it takes is some imagination for listeners get past your RL voice.

If you've ever heard people tell stories or read quotes, you should have learned to see past a speaker's real-life voice, and instead imagine dialogue coming from someone with a different voice.

Old character with a twist = new character has been going on forever.

Doing that with a gender swap is somehow a terrible problem though.

This.

What a stupid fucking justification. If you don't want crossplayers just come out and say so, you spineless fuck. Don't invent stupid rules with stupid justifications to make it difficult if what you really want is just to get rid of it.

>Methodical, Logical, Quick Thinking, Strong sense of right and wrong, Largely emotionless exterior.
So basically a man?

>but that's another story for another time.
... storytime?

>when people play women but make them masculine, physically and mentally identical to men, but just muh vagina and tits

don't do this buds

Weird people are going to be weird no matter what they play, while normal adults generally know how to avoid being weird

But if you're asking this question seriously, you're probably some teen who's too preoccupied with what other shitty teens think. It's fine though, you'll grow out of it

This, actually. If a woman isn't feminine, it better be that defying that norm is a central part of her character. Then at least she makes sense as a character, even if not necessarily one I'd like.

It's only weird if:

1. You make it weird
2. Your group makes it weird

I would recommend against using the first person to refer to your character, and also against playing with weirdos

>he doesn't want to fuck ms pacman

>How weird is it to play a female character as a guy?

Yes.

>Is it inherently of-putting?

Yes.

>Or does it only get weird under certain circumstances?

More like there are some circumstances where it's acceptable.

I had a campaign where I made everyone's characters. At the last minute, I decided to swap the roles of two players and they kept the genders. It never really had any effect on the game and everyone forgot about it.

ok
>dm decided to run a one shot
>basically think ravnica-like massive city scape with old ones under tones
>make a monk cause fists are cool i guess
both dudes from my previous post are in this story so to avoid confusion the one who always plays a girl with be C and that guy of the session will be K
>C makes a rogue, because "WE NEED DPS GUIS"
>yea ok shitter
>K makes a fighter who only uses bows, no melee, not even for close quarters, just bows period
>we find, conveniently a bow, that can one shot anything
>dubbed godbow for short
>K goes "i use bows so i should be the one to hold it"
>C and i just agree cause fuck it, its a one shot
>rumors start going around the city that K's character has a massive crush on mine
>K thinks I had something to do with it
>K sees me with a merchant about 20ft away
>K pulls out godbow
>points it at me
>insert some cringey one liner here
>given one round for my actions before arrow is launched
>"ki pool, increase movement, getting the fuck out of the building"
>arrow launches, destroys the building i was previously in
>i tackle his character, cause you know, only ranged
>RAAAAAAAPE
>dude wut
>"im calling rape because your on top oof my character right now trying to get a weapon away from me"
>dude fucking wut
>guards come over because of the rape call
>not because the building was destroyed
>proceed to have my character arrested
>C is still standing off to the side just watching, doing nothing
>guards dont question anyone, guards dont look around for answers, just trust K over evidence
>K is laughing the entire time and OoC saying "i didnt think that would work haha you deserve it!"
>i proceed to tell the guards the entire situation and everything that happened
>dont believe me
>session ends shortly after because of the rape call

Charmander: squirtle, squirtle.

I have a female character in one of the games I'm playing now. It's not awkward unless you go out of your way to make it so. Just remember your character's identity does not just consist of their sex. If you're putting 'I'm a girl' or 'I'm a dude' front and center as something they're going to talk about all the time, you're doing it wrong. They are also a class, a profession, have some kind of backstory, maybe belong to a fantasy race that isn't human, sex is just one more layer and it's honestly the least interesting layer. So long as you remain thinking 'I am a fighter, I will fight this thing.' or 'This situation offends my elven sensibilities' or whatever, you're good. Once you start spending large amounts of time talking about your tits, and how beautiful you are, you've failed.

Honestly the most awkward thing in most cases of crossplay is just pronoun confusion. Your fellow players and GM are used to looking you in the face and using 'he' to simultaneously refer to you and your character. Crossplay forces them to use 'he' for you and 'she' for your character, and it's a mental distinction most groups have a little trouble with at first.

It's mostly because they personally would make it weird and sexual, since they are barely repressed perverts. So since they would be a creep about it, obviously other people would be too!

Projection: not just for movies anymore.

>female characters can't deviate from being stereotypical girly-girls and princesses
You're doing it wrong.

You can be feminine without being a "girly girl" or a princess.

I played a mother as a PC once. It was surprisingly different and fun.

If you're a normal person and not an asshole, it should be fine. However, if you're going to use playing the opposite as a vehicle for working out your own gender issues, everybody will hate you. Which camp do you fall into? The answer should be pretty obvious.

special snowflake

Just erotic roleplay lesbians with other dudes.
Nothing creepy about that.

I used to think a guy playing a woman was almost guaranteed to end badly. However, a guy in my group has played a girl in two seperate campaigns, and its worked fantastically. Theres no creepiness, no sexuality. Just normal young women who want to do the right thing. I'm pretty pleased with him.

You're right. I was trying to be pedantic.

"no"

"no" pt. 2

"no" pt. 3

Gender swap is bad because of how transparent it is. Making femKirk the Rogue Trader might work as a short joke, but for a PC, that's too thin a character.

The same goes for race/culture swaps.
>I'm going to make Cleopatra, but black!
>I'm going to make Andrew Jackson, but as a Scot!
>I'm going to make Naruto, but as a knight!

Shit's gimmicky as all hell.

It can be the start of something, but it isn't sufficient on its own.

I am sorry that C, K, and your GM are all shitters.

It's not weird for me, at least. I just play them the same way I play male characters. Give them goals, dreams, hopes, etc. Then watch as they all fall apart and the campaign dies.

Exactly.

>How weird is it?
Not weird at all, roleplaying doesn't exist for people to just play themselves over and over and over.
>Is it inherently offputting.
No, so long as you don't make it so.
>Does it get weird under certain circumstances.
It really depends on the people you're playing with, Player/Player romance with another guy's character might get weird if neither of you are gay, but as long as you don't spill all of your spaghett it shouldn't be an issue.

yes, it's fucking weird.

if I was gm'ing and some greasy neckbeard wanted to play a girl I would kick him out, because you just know he's a fucking weirdo.

Nah, it's not really weird, Can get annoying sometime though when it's clearly someone's fetish. I once played with a guy who had a halfling loli concubine character, in a hack-and-slash fantasy game.

Most in most games people play they play really outstanding people who spend most of their time killing shit in the dungeons. Your average female adventurer isn't a good vehicle to explore femininity.

I played Ophelia, for that matter. As with your case, nobody cared. From what I can tell Veeky Forums is home to some of the very few people in the western world who give a shit.

The answers to all these questions are the same as the last 50 times you made this thread

Literally every character in the original productions of Shakespeare's plays would have been played by a male actor. Anyone who gets upset about it has no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

It's only weird when fetishists make it weird.

...

So long as you don't make it about sex its usually ok.
I think my group would keep my grandmotherly druid around just for the fresh-baked cookies (refluffed goodberry spell).

We require the voice differentiation because otherwise we're just playing Slow Fantasy Video Game: The Board Game. Most normies have a hard time roleplaying at all without the ridiculous theatrics

The act itself is not inherently weird but every guy I've ever met who chooses to play a female character is weird. Also insanely defensive about it (which is very visible in this thread).

I usually like to play Orc women.
>Strong
>Deep voice
>Been in the system a few times
>Fascinated by soap....

But that's besides the point OP. The point is, have fun with it. Separate your fetish from the game and it's all gucci.

Look at me? I created a movement within the slavery ranks shouting "Orc lives matter!"

...I'll go home now.

The problem is the other players. When I try to play a girl everyone is convinced they have to diddle me, flirt, or rape me. Fucking sue me if I want to make a cutie pie tower shield fighter with a knack for baking pastries during trips into town.

I'd say no if played well. It depends on you as a person and your fellow players and gm. If you're that creepy guy than they'll just view what you're doing as creepy. If you're viewed as normal there might be some suspicion that you can dissuade by playing it acceptably. If you're viewed as cool or well liked in general you probably can do some crazy antics.
Ex:if i'm playing with my lifelong buddies than i'll make a in your face lesbian or possibly some variant dyke just cause i know they won't judge that shit. If i'm with a random group or a more laidback group i only know through the LGS than i'd be more reserved in my rping and character traits.

thank you for your condolences, K still to this day still thinks he is in the right, so thankfully we pretty much outright banned him from playing females period because of that incident

as for C, every time we bring up the fact that he plays the same female type of female every game he always shits himself basically screaming "IF THATS HOW I WANNA PLAY, THATS HOW I WANNA PLAY AND YOU GUYS CANT CHANGE THAT" which i agree with that statement, but at the same time, i also had an arguement with this SAME PERSON, because he thought that his character at "5'0 female, 90 pounds, with D sized breasts" was realistic. even by using a bmi calculator, which i know is an approximate estimation for how a body is, its way fucking under.

my play group is a bunch of fuckin mongoloids, and thankfully to Veeky Forums ive corrected my fuck ups

>cleopatra
>not black
egypt is an african country you memelord

>I'll stop posting now.
dont stop

Yeah, but Egyptians and other northern Africans were, and often still are, much more bronze or Mediterranean in complexion. I mean Egypt is basically the middle east.

so if you dont do those things, why is it a bad habit?

You've got me wondering what fetishes people have assumed I have based on my characters actions.

I think it's only weird if the guy has a decisively male voice. If you heard the voice of Sean Connery saying "I'm going to slap the drunkard for grabbing my ass" you'd be confused too.

Other than that, it follows the same rule as any other character concept: do it only if you can do it justice.

I want to like this picture, but everything time I see it I can't help but notice how fucking stupid it is to have your knees pointing inwards for a fighting stance. No stability, no power.

I've only done it once. It wasn't "off-putting", but I did feel like I never had any sense of connection to my character and couldn't identify with her or really figure out what her personality was supposed to be. Those have never been problems with me before or since. Never had any desire to do it again.

It shouldn't be , but it always is.

Always.

>don't do this buds

>when people play dwarves but make them humane, physically identical to humans but just muh pointy beard and mountains

Bro I think you'll find that even my most cringey girl RP is still more realistic than your stoic dwarf-rp, on account of girls exist and I've seen them.