Is there anything not present in playtests? Are Aegis customizations still shit?
David Walker
>shit >Give you a veil or two >If you don't need the veil anymore you can just gab some other customization
Don't use it to grab a combat veil, use it to shore up the poor out of combat/trasport game of the Aegis.
Pic is the Akashic Dragon, a super Salamander.
Dominic Jenkins
>poor out of combat/trasport game of the Aegis
Jacob Moore
>aegis >poor transport
The fuck are you smoking? Even with just ultimate psionics they get access to every transportation mode except teleport, and they can grab Fold Space with power stones(which, for Aegis, are reusable).
Aaron Hughes
Parse the sentence correctly for
Out of combat Out of transport
Outside these two situations the Aegis is as good as his skill points and power stone use.
Maybe, if you're using Path of War, he has access to some random stance that can be useful out of combat.
Access to veils gives him a larger number of out of combat options. Or for a Half giant archetype Aegis access to Forcestrike Knuckles on his slam.
Alexander Adams
Ar these based on some sort of mythology I am not familiar with?
Robert Lopez
...
Joseph Bell
Indian I presume.
Robert Jackson
For clarification, these are all Akashic monsters that naturally have essence and veils.
Alexander Hernandez
Inspired by Ganesh and Hanuman, I suppose.
Alexander Ortiz
>blue skin >multi-armed >elephant
South Asian, mostly Indian but I imagine you might get some Cambodian/Vietnamese/Nepali influence.
Parker Long
Forgot to include names Ganapti Hanumapti Yatudhana
This thing is a Yaksa, the lowest CR thing here at CR 5.
Easton Sanders
So far >Aerial Nimbus buffed to permanent airwalk at 4 essence >Force Strike Nerfed to only UAS or 1 natural weapon >Better formatting overall
Nolan Bell
>Buy Monster Class subscription on d20pfsrd shop >Buy Akashic Mysteries subscription on d20pfsrd shop >Monster Classes haven't been updated since Undead >No Akashic Mysteries at all wew lad
Oliver Kelly
>Not buying from DSP site directly which gives them the largest share of the profits
Nicholas Johnson
What if he wanted to support both? D20pfsrd is a good service.
Robert Wood
except in this particular case where he has to wait for the new stuff after buying it.
Blake Scott
Yes. Based on the usefulness of the website itself, I never would have expected their online store to be a shit show.
David Hill
So I need to make a barbarian, and I have no idea where to even start buildwise. I'll be starting at level 2 with an EXTREMELY generous point buy of 32 pts, but basically nothing but the base APG and the Unchained rules for the barb. Trouble is, I don't even know what kind of a concept I want to go for, combat-wise. What kind of a role can a barbarian fill other than meatshield and damage turret with those limited resources?
Jordan Parker
...Why are you a barbarian if you want to be something that isn't one of those?
Dominic Lopez
I didn't say I wanted to be something that's not one of those, I just wanted to know what options I'm looking at. I've never actually played a barbarian before.
Jack Stewart
With a 32 Point buy I'd even suggest running a Monk or Unchained Monk over Barb.
Justin Taylor
That might work. We're running Unchained Monk too. Still basically nothing else other than APG though.
Robert Peterson
Can you get access to Ultimate Combat for style feats? They're to make unarmed combat cool.
Elijah Green
If you have any choice in the matter, Core barbarian is mostly better than unchained.
Ryder Price
Actually, looking over the feats list, there's UC feats in here, so I guess I was mistaken about it being core only.
Bentley Morales
What's better, an enthusiastic new player who knows jack-shit, or a jaded longtime player who plays really well.
Kayden Brooks
Imo am enthustiastic new player, but it really depends on other stuff you havent mentioned.
If the party is a bunch of people who really like roleplaying, not knowing much isn't going to matter.
If they're a highly optimized party who mostly like to stomp on enemies, then a player who knows the system well might fit in better
Connor Lee
'If plays really well' includes knowing how to respect the atmosphere of the game and not bitch unnecessarily about rules mid session, then the latter.
Nolan Walker
Breaking news! 2hu confirmed for total shitter, got permabanned from #pfg, should be banned from /pfg/ for autism with broken builds too.
Oh boy, he's back Can we just ignore him and not shit up the thread for 50+ posts? > inb4 I realities the hypocrisy of saying this while replying to his post.
Gavin Carter
2hu sympathizer detected.
Nicholas Hill
>love designing homebrew content >never get to play any games because group is too fragmented
Justin Jenkins
What's your guy verdict on Shadow mystery for Oracle?
Also why isn't this on d20pfsrd yet??
Jonathan Campbell
Are 4th casters spell ever remotely relevant? Context assumes no 3pp.
Ryder Gutierrez
Sacred Servant Paladin's spells are because they can steal from a much better list, but outside of that no. They really should just be 6th level casters with a worse spell list if that's the goal.
Ryder Lee
Whats this from
Leo Ward
I just stumbled upon the whole idea of combat as sport vs combat as war: seems like it's a reasonably well known thing in the community but the first time I've come across it.
Obviously, PF is geared towards Combat as Sport, and Path of War (maybe even most recent DSP stuff) builds on that goal even more heavily.
While these playstyles aren't mutually exclusive, are they always a sliding scale balancing act, or has anyone had experiences which brought the best parts of both together? Has anyone done anything heavily combat-as-war using a path of war class? How did that go?
Robert Johnson
Hi, just chiming in that you, yourself, not 2hu or anyone else but you and your constant shitting up of the thread, is going to be directly responsible for me abandoning /pfg/ forever and subsequently delaying or getting rid of new pdf leaks forever.
Have a nice day.
Ayden Morgan
Blood of Shadows
Jacob Sullivan
tl; mostly dr. CR system exists to support sports approach. However, nothing's preventing players from say curbstomping low-level enemy army to gain strategical advantage, and when low level players meet a dragon the size of small village they probably should take cue that GM doesn't intend them to fight it, and run for their lives instead.
Easton Martin
Making players run and hide from strong enemies is so counterintuitive in this system because it's hard to run and hide at all and super-duper hard to do it against high CR enemies in particular.
Aiden Cox
Hey /pfg/, I'm running a short horror game for my players, it'd be a dark modern fantasy game and they're starting from 1st level. I'm opening it up to all 1pp supplements and especially HA, and 20pb. What 3pp should the players also have access to?
Hudson Jackson
>horror dark modern fantasy game Did you try not playing dnd?
Ryan Diaz
Does the magus critical with pathfinder affect the damage roll of the magic spell? Like, I roll 5d6 of shocking grasp at level 5, plus the 1dx from the scimitar with a critical range of 15-20. So its 10d6 of shocking grasp and 2dx from the scimitar?
Daniel Harris
Yes. Spell critical multiplier is independent of the weapon, though - it's always 2x unless a class feature says otherwise.
Ian Robinson
Cool story bro. My friends want to play pf. Can you actually give some useful suggestions?
Xavier Perry
What I took wasn't so much about the idea of not making encounters matched to the players, but more about how there's a type of enjoyment from a complex and direct fight versus an enjoyment from engaging with the setting and putting in preparation work to then bypass, change, or trivialize the fight.
Saying Combat-as-War is about thinking 'if a game was realistic then the PCs sometimes should run into strong enemies they're not going to win by fighting' is a bit of a misrepresentation, it's closer to 'The PCs can never be sure they'll win every fight, and would rather avoid the risk, so their real challenge is avoiding unnecessary fights and then making lots of preparation in advance to win necessary fights before they start. Alternately, they engage enemies in creative ways that sidestep the battle system, like sealing all the exits to a bandit den and torching them to avoid direct combat.'
Combat as war: >We need the rogue to scout ahead so we can avoid the monsters or be forewarned about their presence. This may lead to us skipping some planned encounters entirely. Combat as sport: >There's no point in scouting because we're going to run into a monster encounter either way, and if we ambush them all and kill them before they fight back it's an easy but boring victory
Angel Smith
Recruiting Spheres of Power autists for an all-SoP game!
I checked, and nothing for my tastes, a lot of "charge" speed or "overland" speed, but not base speed, fuck, I'll settle for tactic speed but not even that. I'm asking because, on my own, didn't find anything.
Btw, it has to be a feat, cant' be magic item, spell or class feature.
Nothing per se, only that I'd have to pick it 4 times to come close to what I had before and I don't have that many feats.
James Garcia
Well Paizo loves core, thinks it's balanced and still knows Fleet exists so they're not going to make a feat that just outclasses it. 5ft for a feat is what you get.
Charles Edwards
Don't lie to me /pfg/, what 3pp classes do you always include in your games?
Zachary Russell
Radiance House Occultist.
Dylan Young
DEE ASS PEE
Joshua Morgan
Man, don't give the shitposter what he wants.
Blake White
What/best level to start an adventure? 1st or 2nd?
Jaxson Adams
3rd at the absolute least. Somewhere between 3-5 is good.
Luke Lee
Depends entirely on the kind of adventure/campaign you intend to run. I wouldn't start at first level unless you either newbies in the group or other very good reason for doing so, though. Even second level is arguably too low.
Jaxon Perez
Why's this? Not enough class features coming online?
Jacob Wright
Partially that but mostly that levels 1-2 have a high chance of random bullshit deaths to mooks.
They call it rusty dagger shanktown for a reason.
Isaac Scott
This is good for some game types though.
Jacob Garcia
Generally gametypes involving a different game system, though.
Joshua Garcia
Hey, /pfg/! Excited for the weekend? Any big plans, in-game or out-of-game?
Lincoln Anderson
>Conversion Run, run like hell, conversions are shit, nobody ends happy with them because a lot of times is neither easy nor possible and people have to make concessions
Try to stick to the basics of your character, what he could do, how he approached situations, etc, you'll never be able to translate the character 1:1
Brody Torres
I forget the name of the feat but I think tribal scars(raptorscale) gives 6 HP +2 acrobatics and 5' speed increase.
Nolan Thompson
So THAT'S why Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were able to dash away from those droids super fast and then no Jedi ever used that power again.
Ayden Smith
My PCs are exploring a forest and I want to include some stuff to break up the combat encounters without being dull. I'm planning for the ground to give way under their feet and for them to fall into a cave they have to find their way out of. Do you guys have any suggestions for what things could happen in the cave that don't involve combat?
Daniel Thomas
>Parse the sentence correctly for Use proper punctuation and grammar first, you turbo fag
Elijah Hill
I prefer 2nd because that extra hit die can really make a difference for some classes. Not to mention a rounded party will start getting some class abilities that can be useful to keep the other members alive while waiting for theirs. Like in my RotRL campaign, after the first adventure I just leveled everyone to 2nd level even though the AP said you should do exactly as you start the 3rd act of Chapter 1.
Christopher Perez
possible stalagmite impalement trying to climb wet walls. They have to swim underwater (cave swimming is scary as shit, just make sure to have some treasure waiting just like in real life.) They have to constantly squeeze through small cracks without knowing exactly is on the other side so if you want to make a combat scenario there's always that.
Owen Martinez
Pdf or pictures of Akashic Mysteries, I wanna buy it but I need to read a preview of the material
And third, and most rough and still in the conceptual stage, is the War Weaver, an Initiating Magis. As it is I'm still concept proofing it, and am unsure as to which direction I should take this. On the one hand, its semi-servicable as it is, but on the other hand I feellike it oculd use more, but I'm unsure how much to change it and which archetypes I should keep it compatable with. >docs.google.com/document/d/17tC7oYTFzRfosG5SzHpOOS8CZZXpdhEEJX9se9_UEvc/edit?usp=sharing
As always, ALL manner of critique, criticism, and idea proofing is available, and I am not opposed to scrapping and reworking entire sections and concepts from the ground up.
Now, I know from experience that it takes a good long while before the actual critiquing occurs, so in the meanwhile, I'm just going to keep my laptop open to here while I play some Xenoblade. However if I miss some early critiquing, rest assured I WILL address it at some point before the day is over.
Evan Sanders
Alright, so one of my players is a half-orc barbarian raised in Sandpoint as an indentured servant to the Scarneti family, after the events of the Swallowtail Goblin raid, the family felt it was bad PR to have a servant who was a local hero and set him free.
Now, as my in my groups tradition, we tend to get items that are mini boosts at or near the start of the campaign and I decided that one of the humans who looked after him would give him a Senhedron necklace with orcish runes etched into it on the back reading "Glory to the Beast (Rovagug)." but he doesn't know what the necklace does yet and I'm trying to think of some clever bonuses it could give him. On a related note, I'm trying to think of some sidequests he could go on to learn more about his orcish past (he's being mentored by another half-orc in our party) and I'm tempted to have the party at some point travel to Urglin to possibly figure more out about his past. I looked online and I couldn't find anything but a minor description so now I'm stuck trying to thing of a good way to advance this character backstory.
Zachary Martin
>Demolitions Expert gives up Quick Clear You know, of all the things a gun using class gives up, that's probably one of the ones that hurts the worst. You can pick it up again with a feat, but wow.
Explosive Rounds is one of the few things I'd give up gun training for. Good job there.
What's your plan for Temporal Trigger?
Isaiah Sanders
GM question:
How many CR-Appropriate (currently CR 1 for a party of four level 1s) encounters can I throw at my characters between letting them rest.
Elijah Gray
You should aim for 3-5 at most levels. At low levels, you should shave that downb to 2-3, because low levels are already scary enough - level 1 is called rusty dagger shanktown for a reason.
Eli Davis
I have never heard that, but I think I get it. Is it because of the low health pools?
Liam Nguyen
depends on party comp and what their ability scores are like.
I'm pretty sure I could have ran like 4 CR 1 encounters without worrying to much if we had the time because two of our front liners are barbarians and so have a shit ton of health.
But is probably a good rule of thumb.
Caleb Hernandez
As many as you need to kill them, if you get bored through something way above their league like a Balor or something, I know it works.
Matthew King
Theoretically, 4. But you have to realize that CR is, at best, a rough estimate. And that's before you even start considering how the capabilities vary from party to party because of different compositions and different optimization levels.
Julian Myers
Yeah. A wrong roll at levels 1-3 can result in character death, and that gets easier to deal with as you go up in level and HP pools and combat options open up.
Evan Richardson
>What's your plan for Temporal Trigger? Riven Hourglass maneuvers with guns, bending time to have rapid reload with with any gun your reloading, even when using two, and using time delay to shoot multiple bullets at once to make a wall of projectiles MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA! Basically, the whole theme of the archetype will be "The Matrix, but in PF and without the Existentialist Philosophy". Or, if you want a weeb analogy, basically imagine Kiritsugu Emiya meets Homura.