Is there any better gun in the galaxy? The answer is fuck and no.
>can fire 100 (!) shots >pinpoint accuracy because gravitation doesn't affect the beam >cheap >you can recharge it in your Chimera or even by leaving them out in the sun (potentially infinite ammo!) >reliable
buy now or talk with your local recruiter and enlist to Imperial Guard ™
Gavin White
Logistics-wise it's a wet dream. Performance-wise it's meh.
But since the IG is stupidly massive, has a high turnover and needs arming and maintenance the lasgun is perfect for the job.
Justin Taylor
>Can fire infinite shots, self-powered >Pinpoint accuracy because it's exotic energy >Easy to produce >Doesn't need recharging >Reliable >Outclasses the majority of small-arms in the galaxy >Capable of damaging any kind of armour, regardless of toughness, as it attacks the opponent on a molecular level >Mass producible as a simple Necrodermis construct >Self-repairing, self-maintaining and can be recalled back to its owners with an uninterruptible phase
Primitives get out.
Cooper Lee
>>Easy to produce
Daniel Adams
Mary sue gun.
Dylan Murphy
>Basic of the basic Necrontyr construction >Easy to mass-produce for its creators
Primitives be mad 'cause their industry is shit.
Alexander Thomas
Sure, it's no Boltgun, but to call the Lasgun "Meh" performance-wise is like saying that the most cutting edge assault rifles of the modern day are "Meh".
The Lasgun is freaking amazing, but in a galaxy full of xenos freaks that can survive surgery that makes our own medical history look tame, wave their hands and make bullets with their mind, spit acid as potent and devastating as a tactical nuke, and literally rebuild themselves from fragmented scraps of metal... well, the Lasgun just isn't up to par.
Xavier Howard
Do the Necrons even build new things anymore? I was under the impression that they pretty much just chill out in their tombs and use tech and weapons built when the Eldar were still cavepeople.
Isaac Johnson
Modern assault rifles are seriously meh.
Parker White
No. It really is meh. There are many better options on the galactic or Imperial stage. It's more like saying that a generic stamped out AK copy is meh. I think, I'm not a /k/ommando
Eli Hernandez
AK sucks to begin with.
Anthony Perry
>Eldar were still cavepeople. >Galactic scale population >cavepeople
Carson Murphy
Oh, I dunno, how about not running out of power, punching holes through 70+ km of armored buildings, and being rugged enough that forget "a tank rolled over it", a titan would use the damn thing as a shield if it could get one.
>which it can't, this thing will just implode the titan on the way to whatever it's actually aimed at
If you're gonna say best in the galaxy, make sure of your claims first. It's kind of a big place.
Sebastian Edwards
Exactly. It's just durable.
Remind you of any imperial mass produced, durable and easy to maintain weapon given out to en masse to cannon fodder?
Eli Rodriguez
>easy to produce >you can just eat the ammo back >self repairing >no maintenence needed >you can strap them on mindless drones >the gun can actually be more intelligent than the drone >the projectiles guide themselves >pleasurable to use >unmatched psychological weapons cost/effectiveness wise >can be sold as dildos >can be converted into ships
literally unbeatable
Mason Cruz
>every time a tyranid fires a gun it's actually cumming all over the enemy
Easton White
Muh Cryptek
Angel Thompson
Love Blame! but its not infinite energy. It pulls energy from Killy and Killy pulls energy from the Structure via contact with it. It's why he had to hook his shit up to 12 safeguards to draw the power needed to use its super shot. It's also why it didn't work within toha cause toha's not part of the structure just captured in the structures expansion.
Michael Brooks
The more I hear about BLAME!, the more convinced I am that I used a site that only listed about half the pages, because I had no clue what the fuck was going on or who anyone was, and I don't remember about 80% of the scenes mentioned by fa/tg/uys.
Adrian Reed
One has to read NOiSE as well, and it's all pieced together from seemingly insignificant events and far from set in stone.
Ethan Reyes
Possible. There was also some art book that came out that contained tidbits of supplementary lore and explanations as well as all of his works tie in vaguely. One explains how safeguards were originally made and managed though it might take place in a separate reality but technically its linked via the dimensional forge in Blame!. Another explains what happened to earth and how the original setup of the megacity possibly started starring either a proto-killy or original killer before safeguardiation (a sentient bear with a pirate hook and sniper rifle made a wish on the proto-dimensional forge), and yet another shows another planet of humans who talk about knowing earth is gone somehow and that they were sent to that planet as a last ditch effort or some such though whether this is from gauna in sidonia or Biomega's wish happening we don't know though it features gauna and human-gauna hybrids fighting it also shows megastructure and megacities, sidonia sort of capstones it all with gauna, megastructure, GBE tech, and possibly another realities version of killy who also happens to be an artificial pseudo human. Nihei's just sort of made a multiverse of loose connections and hints of other realities lore in various places and you sort of just have to piece it all together. Blame's the hub world more or less. Side paths of abara, biomega, NOiSE, Blame!2, Blame! Academy, Digimortal, NSE, Blame! and So On, Winged armor suzumeya, and Bitch's life(erotic illustrations but one has a relevant caption). With Sidonia sort of capping it all off and showing the various evolutions of things and tech from all previous stories as the manga goes on.
Benjamin Smith
>Mary sue gun. They did have millions of years to get their shit together. Mankind has only had 40,000.
If you don't have Mary Sue bullshit guns after millions of years, you are a failure as a species.
Andrew Sanders
He is right though. They were primitives who used weapons and tools forged by gods.
Connor Turner
>they fought with swords and spears So like everyone does in the 41st millenium? They had a galaxy-spanning civilisation, materially advanced enough to build worldships and teleportation portals, and psychically advanced enough to construct gods.
Chase Brooks
It says they used swords and spears because during these events they were aeons away from build things such as plasma guns. This means they were not advanced enough to make guns which could defeat necrons so relied upon their gods.
>They had a galaxy-spanning civilisation, materially advanced enough to build worldships and teleportation portals, and psychically advanced enough to construct gods.
Should I post the story again? It was an age of gods and souls.
Adam Gutierrez
Use the Scarabs break down any matter and turn it into energy. Then they transform tjhat energy into Necron weapons and war machines.
Very easy for the Necrons.
Jose Peterson
The story was an Eldar legend, which means most of it is bullshit.
The Newcron codex mentions a Necron royal fleet battling an a gigantic Eldar fleet in the War in Heaven and driving them off.
Jaxon Ross
>cheap >easy to produce
But that's wrong. While the lasgun is relatively easy to produce compared to lets say, an Astartes boltgun, lasguns are still mostly only issued to career soldiers, i.e. the Astra Militarum. Lasguns are relatively high tech compared to the shitty bog standard gear of the Imperium's lesser, more numerous forces such as the PDF etc. who use autoguns.
Autoguns are by far the most represented weapon in the Imperium, even some less well-equipped AM are given autoguns when the infrastructure to produce lasguns is not readily available. Stop this "lasguns are cheap and shitty" meme, it only seems so because of the absurd and often inconsistent scaling of the 40k universe. Lasguns are not easy to make and are not cheap.
Cooper Roberts
I'm pretty sure that's wrong and autoguns are the poor man's lasgun. But I don't know enough about the subject to dispute it.
Ryan Butler
>I'm pretty sure that's wrong and autoguns are the poor man's lasgun.
That's literally what I said. Reread the post.
Charles Kelly
/d/'s wet dream
Isaac Ramirez
I think the spess elves deserved and still deserves more necrodermic feets up their asses. I h8 them so fucking much.
Tyler James
think of it this way. fluff-wise, a Space Marine's chest is basically bulletproof because of the bone gene-seed thing that fuses his ribs together. So let's assume that a naked Space Marine can withstand a "regular" slug to the chest, say like a modern rifle round.
A Lasgun can (in the fluff) penetrate the weakspots on a Space Marine's power armor and be able to kill them.
Basically, the lasgun in today's world would be the absolute most amazing unbelievably great firearm in history and ever. It's just that in the 40k universe, there's a lot of scary shit.
People also forget that the armies we see in 40k are top of the line. Fuck, there are feudal worlds in the Imperium that are basically living like medieval Europe. There are local police and defense forces that are gonna be armed with "slug throwers" that are more like modern rifles and shit, and they are pitiful in comparison to even "regular" Guardsman Flak Armor.
The Imperial Guard we see in the 40k games and shit are the regular standing military of the Imperium.
Basically, if you compare Imperial Guardsmen to the average regular people in the Imperium, they are like US Marines or Rangers. Ignoring the specific regiments like Krieg and whoever that are all extra-grimdark and total meat grinders, but say the Cadian Shock Troops, or the Mordian Iron Guard, or Armageddon Steel Legion, etc. they are pretty fucking professional soldiers that have awesome equipment and weapons. COMPARED TO HUMANS.
Of course, compared to 15 foot tall magical space demons from another dimensions that can blow up your head just by using psychic rage and who can spew flames out their ass, sure, it's not that impressive.
David King
>>pinpoint accuracy because gravitation doesn't affect the beam Gravity doesn't bend light?
Learn 2 physics.
Angel Green
yeah. they're cheap and shitty compared to fuckhuge .75 calibre rocket-propelled high-explosive shell automatic guns. But compared to what you'd find in a nigge- I mean Hive scum's waistband, it's magic.
Kevin Morales
fucking keked out loud
Lucas Ortiz
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Kevin Powell
Do sluggas even run out of ammo?
Kayden Reyes
Easy and simple to produce for the Imperium. They have hiveworlds that crank them out by the million. A day. Each. Lasguns are the ultimate infantry weapon if you can produce and supply them. Good thing the Imperium can, thanks to the wonders of the STC Lasgun Factory!
Ethan Wright
>well, the Lasgun just isn't up to par. 99% of the time a lasgun will get used against orks, rebels or heretics, whose troops all use worse weapons.
Charles Howard
No, the ammo bit is stuck in the receiver, thus ensuring infinite ammunition. Ye git.
Levi Adams
As with all Imperial gear, Ryza makes the best
Tyler Sanders
An advantage of a laser is that your entire squad can see where the fire is being directed, and mass fire from lasers will fuck up just about anything. An Astartes breastplate can deflect bullets all day, but you can only deflect so many lasers before your ceramite gets hot enough to cook all your special fancy organs in your chest like a big haggis
Colton Brooks
I imagine orks reload when they think its dramatic
Benjamin Evans
>biological weapon, most likely "grown" alongside the parent organism that is meant to use it >weapon still has handles and grips Why? It's not like anyone (not even other Tyranid) will pick the gun up and use it.
Luke Davis
I thought lasguns fired in a non-visible wavelength.
Caleb Smith
In the fluff it seems like they can always see lasbolts but who the fuck knows if the fluff knows what its talking about
Connor Cox
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William Kelly
Lasblasters are literally the exact same thing but better.
Connor Mitchell
>AK is bad meme
My WASR is just fine, my buddies SLR is bretty gud too. The only "Bad" AK is one that is properly maintained, just like any other rifle.
Zachary Bennett
>WASR >muh meme clone is good guise >no seriously >stop laffin'
Kayden Campbell
DESU, the ubiquitous lasgun is amazing by our standards, but the lasgun is out shined by the bolter technosorcery Tau plasma weapons
Thomas Taylor
pretty sure the eldar guns are based on AK47s. just curvy autoguns are American and laz is british and german engineering.
Nathaniel Gomez
Technically true, but light is so much faster than the escape velocity of anywhere you'd field guardsmen that it doesn't matter.
Ian Kelly
It's an excellent weapon by today's standards, the real problem is that everyone else in the 41'st millennium has better ones.
Chase Fisher
The imperial Guard needs to invest heavily into R&D as well as reverse engineering all the hyper advanced, non-corrupting xeno-tech they have lying around.
They never will. It would ruin the climactic self-sacrifice trope Games Workshop has going.
Jonathan Baker
By our standards the Lasgun is godly. By 40k standards it's an angry flashlight.
Oliver Green
>What is lore and why should I know it when I can make shit up?
Jack Garcia
>non-corrupting xeno-tech >non-corrupting
Ryder Clark
I am just now imagining a Ork dressed in men in black suit just walking into a outer rim hub mowing down the dancers and just drop the clip to pick it up again. The magik gun!
None of that matters much with such a powerful laser tho.
Samuel Murphy
That's probably not true. Otherwise they wouldn't be flashlights in comparison to all the other 40k weaponry.
Owen Smith
>to all the other 40k weaponry. They are better than autoguns and sluggas, so better than 95% of the weapons in the galaxy.
Christopher Russell
Bumping
Michael Hall
Where is this from?
Carter Garcia
white dwarf, I think it's also in either tyranid attack or advanced space crusade
Brandon Smith
It shits all over stub guns.
Grayson Torres
of course it has been mentioned, the nearly free ammunition must do wonders with supply maintenance because certain encounters can lead to the middle of nowhere in a large expanse of the Galaxy.
Gavin Bell
The beam could cause some ionization of the air which will be visible along the beam path.
John Sanders
Light would be emitted by the desionization or the scattering rather than the ionization.