Dragon Ball Tuffle Quest Z #45

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>D. Immortality is for nerds, you're just gonna reincarnate anyway.

Can we go to another planet this thread? I need to explore some dark dank planet caves.

You give Vegeta a blank look and ask him, "Vegeta, you DO realize that Immortality would be just about the worst wish you could ask for, right?"

Vegeta gains a slight but noticeable bit of irritation. "Answer the-"

You sigh. "Of course they could. And a better use of your time would be wishing for the Earth's most comfortable pair of underwear."

Peppa and Gohan snicker at that. Goku ruffles his kids hair. "Eh, betcha you'd be able to make that too, Maple. Actually... you and Piccolo did that once, didn't you? When we looked for Konpei."

You laugh, but keep your focus and explain. "Okay, for starters, Immortality would block you off from the Afterlife. Which, honestly, sounds like a pretty nice place. I got a peek not too long ago, recall. Secondly, you'd probably be stuck in a state where you can't pull off that good ol' 'stronger every time you get close to death' trick. If your body can never die, why would it need something like that? And third, I am about 95% certain that if you made that wish, Towa and her cohorts would be on you like a mold on cheese."

The first one doesn't seem to worry him, though the second comment does give him reason for concern. The third draws his curiosity. "What makes you assume that, and what's more, what makes you assume this Towa person could ever hope to stop Nappa and I while we're Immortal?"

"I also doubt that the second part is valid, Tuffle." Nappa comments. "That is merely an accelerated version of natural bodily self-maintenance and repair. Even if we can't die, we would still experience pain and damage. Or at the very least, we could word the wish to make sure we keep that ability in check. But nice try."

(cont.)

Just about everyone but Vegeta seem surprised by Nappa's comment. You smile and nod. "Well, good thinking on that part. But Towa definitely could take you both and perform gods know what kind of awful experiments on you two. An eternity of near-death, prevented from ever getting stronger. Doesn't sound all that appealing, does it?" Vegeta and Nappa don't quite have a response for that one. "Lastly... well, think about it this way. Immortality is for cowards."

Vegeta's eyes seem like daggers as he lowers his arms, fists clenched. "What did you just say?"

You give him a shrug. "Your hearing isn't that bad, is it Vegeta? Immortality is for cowards. Cowards like Freeza are ones that want to live forever and rule the universe with an iron fist. But Immortality isn't a Saiyan way of doing things now, is it? No possible challenge could ever come to you. You'd always get back up and try again, unable to suffer defeat, unable to experience any thrill of battle. Fight forever? It would be an eternity of boredom. It'd be like going for a drinking contest and being able to switch for water at any given moment."

"...you have an alternative." he comments, not even making it sound like a question. He knows you do.

"If you really do want to live for a long time, maybe give the Kaiju a call and try your hand at the Fountain of Youth. I bet Godzilla would love the challenge, and you'd be earning something instead of just wishing for a 'win button' of sorts."

Nappa gives an exasperated groan. "More Earth secrets. Greeeaaaaat."

Lazuli meanwhile looks at you with concern, nudging you to read her mind. You do so, and... 'Maple, are you crazy? What if he decides to take it all for himself?'

'He'll have to get through Godzilla first.'

Vegeta does seem to consider that, but doesn't change his piercing glare. His smirk reappears. "...perhaps I've found a better wish, then."

(cont.)

Not sure you like this either...

>A. Which is?
>B. Can it wait like, a year, please? We have our own wish to make first, and there's not a lot of time to do so
>C. Something else?

>A. Which is?

>A. Which is?

>A
>B

>A. Which is?
>B. Can it wait like, a year, please? We have our own wish to make first, and there's not a lot of time to do so.

The balls can also revive people, but it has to be within a year, and it takes too long for the balls to recharge that if we don't do it now all those people will stay dead.

"Okay, what IS this wish of yours? And can it wait until next time? Like, a year, please? The Dragon Balls have a limit to how long they can go before reviving someone completely."

Vegeta chuckles. "Perhaps. And this is my wish: Knowledge."

Everyone seems to give a combined "Huh?" at that, save Peppa, who backs up to you slightly and glares at the Saiyan Prince with suspicion.

"It's quite simple, really. I wish to know if this..." Vegeta starts to power up, the ground trembling beneath him. His smirk somehow becomes even cockier as he transforms into a Super Saiyan. "...is the limit to the power of Legend. Or if there is something beyond it. Something greater. The true power of The Super Saiyan."

Goku seems to look at him curiously. "That's... I guess that makes sense."

"Though I would rather find out sooner rather than later..." Vegeta comments, gaining an angry glare from Lazuli.

>A. Give it a year, and maybe you can find out
>B. Well, willing to wager our match's victory on finding out?
>C. Something else?

>A. Which is?
>B. Can it wait like, a year, please? We have our own wish to make first, and there's not a lot of time to do so
C. Beat me at the tournament and I won't even contest it.

>A. Give it a year, and maybe you can find out
>C. Something else?

Maple is pretty well-connected in the Afterlife/Otherworld. Maybe he won't even need such a wish if we contact the right people.

Yazai is one of those people for sure. While Vegeta is a long way from being able to wield or even harness such power, there should be some other figures in the afterlife who know about such things.

>A. Give it a year, and maybe you can find out
>B. Well, willing to wager our match's victory on finding out?
Wager it for the next wish, no delaying this one.

This.

This

>A
>B
And

Alternatively, we could consult Baba. Visions of possible futures is a thing after all, I imagine our hights of power would come into focus.

Shit

I just noticed that the link to previous thread didn't copy over.

Sorry! Previous thread here:

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Still not sure if LL's gotten my emails.

"If you can wait a year for the wish, then fine. Or would you rather wager it on our match?" you ask with a slight smirk.

"A guarantee either way." Vegeta replies smugly.

"Or maybe you could track down Baba, check with the past, maybe look into the future. I'm sure someone would know something about improving the strength of a Super Saiyan in the Afterlife. Like Yazai-"

Vegeta grunts dismissively. "Yazai. The Saiyan traitor. Tuffle, you know just the words to say to piss me off, you know that? Oh my father told me plenty about him. How he thought he was a Super Saiyan. How he was proven wrong. I'd rather die myself than speak with that failure of a Saiyan."

"He wasn't a failure, Vegeta." Goku comments.

He laughs. "Believe what you want to, Kakarot. But the proof stands before you."

"Is it a deal, then?" you ask Vegeta.

He powers down. "As I said. A guarantee that I'll achieve what I want. You have your deal, Tuffle."

"Good. The sooner we're off this planet for good, the better." Nappa grunts, the two of them flying off.

You notice Peppa stick her tongue out at Vegeta as he leaves.

>A. Sweetie, be nice
>B. So, Lapis, how long does Krillin have left?
>C. Something else?

>A. Sweetie, be nice
>B. So, Lapis, how long does Krillin have left?

>A. Sweetie, be nice
>B. So, Lapis, how long does Krillin have left?

>A
>B

>B. So, Lapis, how long does Krillin have left?

>C. Welp, time to train my aaaaaaa butt off. Not letting him get away with that.

>>A. Sweetie, be nice
>>B. So, Lapis, how long does Krillin have left?

sportin

"Sweetie, be nice." you tell your daughter, picking her up.

"But he's still mean." she grumbles, looking at Vegeta and Nappa while they fly off.

"I know, but that doesn't mean we have to be like him in response." you say with a pat of her hair.

The girl's tail curls around your arm. "Mnh."

"I know, Peppa. And believe me, mama's gonna train her a- butt off." Hoo boy are you going to need it... "So Lapis, how long does Krillin have left?"

He looks to a clock. "Ten seconds. Nine. Eight. Seven. Six. Five-"

"And with four seconds to spare, the Krillmaster makes the save!" Krillin shouts as he teleports in. "Thaaaat'll be 500 Zenni, Lapis."

"Damn." he says with a snap of his fingers, digging some change out of his pocket.

(cont.)

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And so, Shenron is called once more. Konkichi stares at the looming Eternal Dragon in awe, while Lazuli humbly makes her wish. "Sheron, I ask of you, please, bring back all the good people who've lost their lives since Cooler's arrival on Planet Brench. All who've died because of..."

Lapis places his hand on his sister's shoulder. "Lazuli, it's okay."

"IT WILL TAKE BUT A MOMENT OF MY TIME." Shenron declares.

"Hoooh. And you guys have encountered him... how many times before?" the green fox man asks.

"Well, let's see..." Goku starts. "Eighter, Gurumez, Acer, Korin's Senzu place, and now, here..."

"Adding to that, King Piccolo's wish, and Chuu Lee's wish." you comment.

"THERE IS A COMPLICATION WITH THIS WISH." Shenron's voice booms. "TWO PLANETS HAVE BEEN DESTROYED AS A RESULT OF THE ACTIONS OF COOLER. BOTH INHABITED. I CANNOT RESTORE THE PLANETS AND REVIVE EVERYONE WHO DIED DUE TO THE SHEER NUMBER OF THEM."

Lazuli's heart seems to sink. "...w-was one of those planets, Brench?"

"IT WAS NOT."

"Well, you can take those who don't have any planets anymore and put them on Brench, can't you? Or... or maybe some other planet where they could survive." she pleads.

"I CAN PUT THEM ONLY PUT THEM ON EARTH FOR THE TIME BEING."

"Shenron, how many people are we talking here?" Krillin asks.

"FOUR AND A HALF BILLION."

Lazuli tugs at her hair. "That... that many?"

"CORRECT."

This... is a bit of a tough one.

>A. Krillin, Lapis, think you could find Namek and Kami? Maybe he has the upgrade Shenron needs
>B. Namek's Dragon Balls could be used to restore the planets, couldn't they?
>C. Well... Earth can handle this, right? We're on a bit of a time limit here...
>D. Something else?

>>A. Krillin, Lapis, think you could find Namek and Kami? Maybe he has the upgrade Shenron needs
>>B. Namek's Dragon Balls could be used to restore the planets, couldn't they?
We might need joint dragon summonings.

>A

>A. Krillin, Lapis, think you could find Namek and Kami? Maybe he has the upgrade Shenron needs
>B. Namek's Dragon Balls could be used to restore the planets, couldn't they?

>A. Krillin, Lapis, think you could find Namek and Kami? Maybe he has the upgrade Shenron needs
>B. Namek's Dragon Balls could be used to restore the planets, couldn't they?
I think C would be a hardship but maybe not impossible as a backup plan. We could call on our space political fri nds for help, perhaps.

You think for a moment. "Krillin, Lapis, could you guys try and locate Kami on Namek? Maybe he has the upgrade Shenron needs."

"Well, give us a bit." they say, trying to focus.

"If not, the Namekian Dragon Balls could probably restore the planets."

"I REQUEST YOU HURRY THIS ALONG." Shenron asks.

"S-sorry! We'll make the wish as soon as we can." Lazuli promises.

Eventually the two boys teleport away, having located Kami. Shenron grows increasingly impatient. "IF YOU WOULD RATHER WAIT AND WISH ANOTHER TIME, PLEASE SEND ME ON MY WAY."

"Agh, we can't wait any longer than this..." Lazuli states. "Why didn't I figure this out sooner?"

"Hey, don't beat yourself up over this." Konkichi states.

Finally, Lapis and Krillin return with Kami... looking rather unhappy. He wordlessly approaches the Dragon Balls, placing his hands forward. Energy seems to flow from him into the Dragon Balls, Shenron's eyes giving off a red glow as he finishes. "They can now grant two wishes. I ask that you bring me to the Lookout once you are done."

>A. Kami, is something wrong?
>B. Well Lazuli, go for it
>C. Something else?

>B. Well Lazuli, go for it
We can talk to Kami later.

>B. Well Lazuli, go for it

B. Then A.
While she's wishing we can discuss important matters

This

>B. Well Lazuli, go for it
While she's wishing
>A. Kami, is something wrong?
So

"Guess that solves that, Lazuli! Go for it!" you tell her. Kami lets out an exhausted sigh. You approach him, your daughter in your arms still. "...something wrong, Kami?"

You can tell from the look on his face that he doesn't want to answer, but after Lazuli makes her wishes, first to restore the planets, then to revive people. Kami looks to you all. "...I have learned many things about the Dragon Balls on Namek. And how I have made many mistakes."

Goku takes a moment to jump up into the sky and catch the Four-Star Dragon Ball, heading back down to give it to Gohan... who looks at it for a moment, and hands it back to his dad. "It's yours, papa." Goku smiles at that, ruffling his son's hair.

You smile as well, but turn back to Kami. "What do you mean?"

Kami grips his staff. "I was correct to have them spread across the world. You see... there is an issue with how they are used. Tell me, what do you think happens when a wish is made on the Dragon Balls?"

>A. Well, it takes some kind of energy, right?
>B. Not sure, but is there something bad that happens?
>C. Something else?

>B. Not sure, but is there something bad that happens?

>A. Well, it takes some kind of energy, right?
Can't make something out of nothing.

>A. Well, it takes some kind of energy, right?

>B. Not sure, but is there something bad that happens?

>A

>C. Shenron gets to stretch his arms?

>C. He takes a break from fighting centipedes in the Earth's core?

>The eastern Asian dragon can be fierce as well, but unlike its European counterpart, it is almost always helpful to human beings. The Asian dragon loves jewels, especially jade; it hate centipedes and anything made from iron. In China, the dragon is the highest-ranking animal in the cosmology; it was associated with the power and majesty of the Chinese emperor, and is still linked to fertility and prosperity.

>C. Something else?

"Well for every action there's an opposite and equal reaction right? So the energy Shenron uses must have some sort of drawback."

...

Our tuffle is too damn smart to make that simple-minded analogy.

>C. I thought Shenron just used your power to do something for someone else?

"Well, you can't really make something out of nothing. Everything takes energy, even this," You conjure up a shirt that says "TACOS" on it. Peppa catches it and starts playing with it. "Magic is just a form of energy, and the Dragon Balls are plenty magical. So I'd assume they take some kind of energy to operate. I mean, it's not just Shenron stretching his arms or something after he's done fighting centipedes in the center of the Earth." Krillin, Lapis, Lazuli, and Konkichi stare at you for that comment. You smile cheekily. "But really, it's a law of nature. Opposite and equal reaction-" Then it starts to dawn on you. "...there's something wrong with how this energy is used, isn't there? A drawback?"

Kami lowers his head. "The Dragon Balls draw upon some of the universe's creative, positive energy. Which leads to an equal buildup of destructive, negative energy, contained within the Dragon Balls themselves. Over time, the energy leaves the Dragon Balls and the universe's forces balance out... but only over the course of many, many years. A hundred or more, depending on the buildup. I had designed them to be able to hold a significant amount of this negative energy."

That... that sounds bad. Goku tilts his head. "Couldn't you just wish away the bad energy then?"

"It would result in gaining an amount of negative energy equal to that needed to remove it." Kami states with a sigh. "And a slight increase from merely making a wish."

Goku frowns. "Ah. Dang."

(cont.)

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"What's more... this energy is corruptive. If too much is built up, it could alter Shenron in some way that results in him needing to expel that power. This has happened at least once." With a grim look, he gazes over you all. "...that resulted in the destruction of the Planet Eros. And eventually an entire galaxy."

"A whole... galaxy?!" Lapis exclaims.

"Then... well, how long do we have before we have to face that?" Goku asks... with an oddly calm expression on his face.

"I do not know for certain. It could be next wish. It could be ten wishes away. But I ask this of you: please do not rely on the Dragon Balls. Use them only as an emergency measure. Give them time to recover, beyond there initial state of rest as stone. And... know that the day may come when they can no longer be used. The time may come when I must what I can to keep this error in my judgment from bringing further harm to the Earth." He hangs his head. "I am deeply sorry."

>A. If it weren't for you, Kami, we all would've probably never met in the first place. We'll make that promise, but please don't blame yourself for this
>B. Wait, does that mean the Namekian Dragon Balls have the same risk to them?
>C. Is there anything Trip can do?
>D. Something else?

>A. If it weren't for you, Kami, we all would've probably never met in the first place. We'll make that promise, but please don't blame yourself for this
>B. Wait, does that mean the Namekian Dragon Balls have the same risk to them?
>C. Is there anything Trip can do?

>>A. If it weren't for you, Kami, we all would've probably never met in the first place. We'll make that promise, but please don't blame yourself for this
>>B. Wait, does that mean the Namekian Dragon Balls have the same risk to them?

>D. Something else?
"What if we figure out how to reverse the negative energy in the dragon balls without relying on wishes?"

> If it weren't for you, Kami, we all would've probably never met in the first place. We'll make that promise, but please don't blame yourself for this
>B. Wait, does that mean the Namekian Dragon Balls have the same risk to them?
>C. Could we extract small portions of the negative energy? Instead of building up to an explosion and birthing an evil force, we end up with small things we can beat down. Sounds like great training, actually.

This. Even better, maybe we can find somewhere in the universe for this negative energy to "vent" as it were. If it was big enough to destroy a galaxy, maybe there's somewhere out there roughly Galaxy sized that has a whole bunch of nothing going on that the negative energy can go to.

Of course, after promising not to use the balls again.

If we learn to transmute raw negative energy into positive energy we could stifle a lot of Towa's plans.

If that were possible the dragon balls wouldn't have a problem to begin with.

>We vent the energy
>It ends up at Beerus' place
>WHIS, WHAT IS THAT SMELL? IS THAT THAT ROTTEN SHARK MEAT AGAIN?!
>Beerus is now headed directly at us

Go back to your own quest SOM

Just get some neko majin cat nip from Neko Majin Z.

>Birth a galaxy of pure evil
>It eventually destroys the universe
Good job

At least until Beerus wakes up

Then finds out whose fault it was, and then comes the hammer.

"Stop doing my job, mortals."

>>A. If it weren't for you, Kami, we all would've probably never met in the first place. We'll make that promise, but please don't blame yourself for this
>>B. Wait, does that mean the Namekian Dragon Balls have the same risk to them?

"If it weren't for you, Kami, we all would've probably never met in the first place. We'll make that promise, but please don't blame yourself for this."

The aged Namekian smiles a soft, grandfatherly smile at you. "Always looking to the positive side of things."

"If anything, let me apologize for what I've just done." Lazuli tells him.

"There is no need. But do take that to heart." Kami tells the young woman.

Something clicks in your mind. "Wait... the Namekian Dragon Balls! Kami, are they at risk too?"

"A good observation." Kami notes. "They are, but not to the degree that the Earth's are. At least, not yet. Moori has already taken precautions."

A relief, at least. Still... damn. "Well... what if there's something Trip could help you with, or maybe some way to vent a little bit of the energy at the time? Instead of one big explosion of it when it overloads."

"Doing so would could create a creature with strength that surpasses even the former Demon King's." Kami states. "At minimum. It'd be comparable to the power of a Majin."

...well, there goes the plan to try training with it. "Guess it was worth a shot."

"We'd need to get plenty stronger before that happens." Goku comments. "But if we do, maybe we can try to prevent it. Though that's probably a ways off."

"Yeah, we already have a lot to worry about." Krillin notes.

"That said, perhaps Miss Sanzo and I could work together to find some temporary solution. I shall investigate that possibility." Kami states, taking to the air. "I thank you all again. Spread the word to those who need to hear it."

After Kami's message, things start to normalize a bit, with you...

>A. Getting in some training yourself
>B. Focusing on Gohan and Peppa's training more
>C. Making sure the kids are plenty educated, beyond just Turtle School training
>D. Working on some new skills for yourself
>E. Take some time to learn from Trip some more
>F. Something else?

Pick three at most.

>A. Getting in some training yourself
>B. Focusing on Gohan and Peppa's training more
>C. Making sure the kids are plenty educated, beyond just Turtle School training

Quests go in the quest board,

I don't mean to be rude but shouldn't this be on /qst/?

>A. Getting in some training yourself
>B. Focusing on Gohan and Peppa's training more
Have them equal exchange
>D. Working on some new skills for yourself
Perfect Raioken. Full-Power training. Get Goku to do it as well.

>B. Focusing on Gohan and Peppa's training more
>C. Making sure the kids are plenty educated, beyond just Turtle School training
>F. Transformation training while we're doing everything else.

Mods say they're allowed. Talk to them if you're unhappy with this.

There were issues due to inactive mods and technical issues, and since this was here before the other board was made, there was no forced movement. Think the overall decision was if things got fixed we take a vote on whether to migrate or not.

>B
>C
>D

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>B. Focusing on Gohan and Peppa's training more
>C. Making sure the kids are plenty educated, beyond just Turtle School training
>D. Working on some new skills for yourself

>B. Focusing on Gohan and Peppa's training more
>C. Making sure the kids are plenty educated, beyond just Turtle School training

Send them to public school. If they want harder, we can teach them at home, but it's more for the social aspect than the educational.

Aren't they still too young for even preschool?

We're going to really need to fight Goku in SSJ if we wanna fight with Vegeta evenly.

Liam willing the rolls won't fuck us over, what's our plan for when he goes gold?

I'd argue against the training as counting against our options, we can literally do anything and everything else while we keep up the energy.

I'm not sure we're even going to play that out ourselves, weren't we going to be Peppa for that timeframe?

Does he still have his tail? We can pull the same trick we did on Goku if so.

I think we tried that before, vegeta isn't susceptible to that.

Plan is to have you play the Junior Division as Peppa instead of going through the Prelims again.

Ah, so we'll still have the finals. Fair enough.

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