Book 1 - Basic Rules and first wave of updated (from 1st edition of malifaux) models Book 2 - Second wave of updated models Book 3 - Campaign system and new M2E models
Through the Breach Fated Almanac - Basic rules for the RPG set in Malifaux Through the Breach Fatemaster Almanac - GM stuff for the RPG
I'd probably say 35 stones, so that's basically a crew box and maybe one or two other models. Move on to 50 once you've got a solid grasp on the game.
Blake Martin
Well, after you know the basics you should move to 50 SS, in my experience a lot of beginners gets stuck on 35 SS and is afraid of playing 50 SS for some reason, even though the game is balanced around that value and it's usually just a matter of adding 2-3 extra models to your list.
Joseph Rivera
Starting at 35 is pretty good.
One hurdle early on is that you may not have models that are good at certain schemes/strategies. So if you have friend with a bigger model pool you might both build your lists before the schemes are flipped. And summoners are broke as fuck at that level.
Seconding this. 50ss is where it is meant to be played. Though the alternate formats are great for smaller matches. Like Henchman Hardcore and what not.
Jace Butler
Some of the base sizes for models in this game are so stupid, I've been making Ramos spider totem and it is such a struggle getting it to fit on a 30mil base. Lazarus as well, why is he not on a 50mil? He's massive.
Tyler Hall
because this game is chess like and size of a base is as much important to balance as its stats or abilities are
Luis Davis
I try gluing them on to the lip at that point. I imagine that they are using those base sizes for balance reasons. I had a similar issue fitting Misaki's totem on to a 30mm base.
Dylan Morales
Lazarus fits pretty well on his base. He's not that big.
Jacob Taylor
it easier to shield a 30 mm base with 40 mm base ;) can someone scan this RoF book already - free culture people - this was what internet was all about in my day kids ...
Gavin Ortiz
Sorry fampai, all I've got is Nellie and the general upgrades.
Justin Harris
Anyone got pictures of the sprues for Nellie and Titanias crew boxes? I want to see just how much of a panic attack i'm going to have once they finally arrive
Sebastian Hughes
wyrd put the how to glue instructions for all new sets go to their site and resources and then punch titania
Grayson Miller
No one is going to want to cut up a $45 book. I am sure that once Wyrd puts up the PDF we will see it here, so wait patiently. It should be about a month.
Jacob Carter
Ya the plastic brass arachnid is ridiculous. I was lucky enough to get the old metal one and tossed the new one on a 50mm gave it a saw blade for a counts as large arachnid.
Isaac Wood
well, this answers my question
Levi Barnes
good god I thought these wind gamin were a nightmare
Noah Campbell
It looks like hell, but at least it's easy to understand.
Way more clear than the Bayou Bushwackers.
Brayden Cruz
It's a lot of pieces but it's a pretty simple thing to put together
Michael Brooks
By Yan Lo's beard!
Justin Cook
Four of the legs have been cut in half, why? I'm honestly completely stumped why the other four are one piece. Just glad I'm not getting one any time soon.
Carter Phillips
Look at the leg piece on the top right. Notice how there is a little bit of overhang? That is enough for them to justify splitting those apart.
Grayson Thompson
you mean you couldn't decipher which of the 7 leaves went where on each model from their highly detailed instructions?
Bentley Jones
I tried user. I tried so very hard.
Nathan Edwards
but how far did you get?
Levi Stewart
he got so far and tried so hard but in the end it doesnt even matter
Tyler White
Pigtails was doable, but the other two are sans a few leaves. I got a mismatched pile of the remaining leaves on my battlestation ready to go when I finally lose my mind.
Every time I get a gremlin box I tell myself it will be the last, but then I keep finding great deals. I got Somer, Ophelia, and Mah plus slop haulers and a warpig for less than 100 American funbucks.
Adam Richardson
>I got Somer, Ophelia, and Mah plus slop haulers and a warpig for less than 100 American funbucks. bretty good
Isaiah Gonzalez
>Somebody please scan that book. My order with the book hasn't even been fulfilled. Feels bad man.
Evan Thomas
i would but my book has been sitting in the post office of des moines for 2 days. normally i'd go down to my post office and see whats up but i live in california
Parker Cook
That's more scary to me
Jonathan Reyes
I'd like to continue begging for model recommendations (henchmen and below) for redirecting damage to targets of choice. Terracotta would be great if he didn't have to take it himself.
Gabriel Cooper
damage or attacks* Preferably attacks, kind of like Kirai and Burt.
Henry Martinez
What's wrong with wind gamins?
Eli Cooper
>Somebody please scan that book. Can we extend this to the Through the Breach expansions?
Asher Smith
Goddamn it Wyrd, we said remove kebab not turn Arcanists into the Middle East.
Nathaniel Reed
If theres no kebab in the game you cant remove it.
Joshua Flores
Why the fuck can Wyrd not design a fucking model? I really like Malfaux models but they're so annoying to put together I'd rather buy something else.
Cooper Johnson
>based sikhs >lumped in with kebabs
removing kebab is literally in their blood
Josiah Lewis
I really don't understand anyway, are there any Turks? Sidir maybe? He's been in the game for ages.
Jacob Ramirez
Sidir was from Egypt, so no. There is an equivalent of the Ottoman Empire in the setting, so we might see some of those guys in The Other Side. You might even be able to proxy them for Malifaux units (Guild guard, Guild riflemen, ect.) and say that they are just conscripts of a more ethnic flavor than usual.
Oliver King
Montressor with his free upgrade sorta redirects. You have to discard to ignore him if in base contact, and with a 50mm base and an ability that pulls that's not hard.
Sybelle's 'Only Sybelle' is similar but targeted.
Chase Phillips
Hey guys, new player here looking to get into Malifaux. We're doing a local "get started" style tournament where everyone buys a master box and we do a tournament with them.
I'm having a hard time deciding what box to buy and what faction to pick, as to be honest, they all look really fucking cool.
I'm primarily torn though between Neverborn (The dreamer box, Dark debts box) and The Guold (The guild's judgement, The torch and the blade).
What do you guys think I should go for, and can you give me any advice? I really am into the large monsters for Neverborn and the mecha aesthetic of the guild. Lady Justice is probably the coolest character I've seen so far.
Zachary Butler
I think it depends on how early in learning the game you are. First two or three games, 20-25ss. Then a few (
Owen Sanchez
>Kirai and Burt Those are the ones I thought of. Off the top of my head at least.
Nico to.
Carter Sanchez
From what I've heard Guild will be more straightforward to learn than Neverborn, especially Dreamer and Lynch.
Personally, for those four choices the Guild boxes have way cooler models too.
Have you looked at Hoffman, if you're into the steam-mecha angle? It's kind of his bag.
David Rogers
The only two factions they have revealed so far is the King's Empire (Victorian England) and the Gibbering Horde (Neverborn who have come to earth to do evil and whatever else is the standard). They of course say that more factions will be added.
Andrew Cruz
Hoffman does look great also. I've heard Lady Justice is a little OP and I don't want to be that guy so I'm not sure if I want to get her box immediately. I also noticed that Lucius was also Neverborn so perhaps that could be my angle to just get into both factions.
Also, can someone explain Outcasts to me? It seems like any faction can take units from the Outcasts?
Thanks duders
Christopher Murphy
I'd stay away from the dreamer as your first master, he's great and I love to play him but he's a summoner and you'll need to get more stuff to get the most use out of him. Lynch is pretty straightforward and a lot of fun too
Bentley Gray
>King's Empire (Victorian England) As a middle-class English lad, can't what to hwhat hwhat at my opponents while shooting them like the dogs they are with mass ranked musket fire. Jolly good, chap.
Jayden Price
>Also, can someone explain Outcasts to me? Outcasts are a faction same as any other, some of their models have the "mercenary" characteristic, this means you can hire up to two of them regardless of your faction, the downside is each one costs one extra soulstone.
Justin Harris
Many outcast models are mercenaries, as in you can hire up to two of them in another faction, but at the cost of 1 extra SS each.
Lady Justice isn't really overpowered, just strong up close. Lucius has a really rad model and I love him in the fluff, but he is bad for beginners as he is relatively weak and hard to figure out. Get him later. Dashel for example is good in a lot of guild crews.
Henry Carter
Lady Justice isn't OP so much as 'Very newbie friendly.'
Here is what Lady Justice wants to do: Go stab things in the face. If they are all stabbed in the face, they can't do objectives.
Outcasts are a full faction of well...people who don't fit into existing factions. Mercs, Banished, Spirits of Vengeance etc. Some of them have the mercenary tag (More than any other faction but some people in other factions are also mercs). Mercs, not outcasts, can be taken in other factions at +1SS cost.
Ryder Evans
Thanks for the help guys, I think I've pretty much narrowed it down to The Guild, and at a later date I'll get into Neverborn.
So between all the available Guild boxes, which do you guys think is going to be the most fun to play? I'm leaning pretty heavily towards Lady Justice / Hoffman / Sonnia Criid but I just can't decide. Are there any you wouldn't recommend to a newbie?
Blake Barnes
Don't get Lucius. From a game designer's viewpoint, he should be the easiest Master, because new players will naturally want the Master that gives them access to the two biggest, most iconic factions in the game. Actually, he's a pig to learn and generally seen as not-so-good even once learned.
Don't worry about your master being OP - you'll be getting shrekt by anyone with more experience than you for the first dozen games anyway, the powerlevels of the individual Masters is not that important until you get to pretty high-level play. If anything, Lady J will be easy to learn (as I understand it she's a pretty straightforward faceraeper) and therefore a great choice.
Outcasts are a Faction in their own right, but due to the nature of the folks making it, they have a lot of Mercenaries in there. One or two Mercs can be hired out of Faction for an extra fee (1ss) by any Crew from any Faction, but Outcasts don't have to pay the extra fee to hire Outcast Mercs, and because they are part of the faction there is of course no limit to how many you can hire.
Tyler Gray
Lady J - easiest to learn, box gives access to good models. Criid - badass, but more complex, also good models. Hoffman - MECHS! but complex and fiddly.
I'd advise buying them in that order, if you were planning on dropping a few hundred dollars.
Xavier Johnson
Cool, I think I'm going to go for just that -- Lady Justice first and then go from there. I appreciate the help!
lady J is a great place to start. you may find this site helpful
Kayden Gray
Has anyone ever come across a story in either the rulebooks or the magazines where Hoffman interacts with any of the other guild masters?
Alexander Price
In Rising Powers he and Lady Justice walk together in order to meet Ramos, just as an example.
Isaiah Cooper
do they both sex her?
Dylan Cook
Yes, with Santiago as well. My favorite part of that story was how shockingly autistic Ramos was portrayed. After doing god knows what to the bodies of Justice and Ryle, he has no idea why Justice and Hoffman are so angry at him.
Sebastian Adams
I'm always interested in hearing about major character interaction in wargame so thank you.
Austin Butler
take a look in all the books in the OP. each faction has 2-4 stories before the rules that introduces the master and most of the things in their crew. My favorite is from the first book between zoraida/somer/ophelia/wong/burt
Kayden Gray
I've read some of them, my favorite so far has been von schill, somer, and brewmaster playing a drinking game.
Carson Wood
So is So'mer the last master without an iconic henchman?
He doesn't really need one or anything, but I find it funny in a game where avatars of Tyrants, serial killers, ancient awakened fae, etc, So'mer is so caustic that he has no number two man. Even his totems are wildlife he's managed to tame instead of underlings or handy constructs that most masters have.
Camden Sanchez
Always thought Lenny was his second in command
Xavier Johnson
He might be, but he's not a henchman.
Liam Morgan
Fair point, I think that yeah its likely due to somer being a pain to spend long periods of time with.
Angel Lewis
Finally made it back to my fucking house after having to drive people around for the last 6 hours.
Thankfully my Gencon stuff showed up while I was out. So now I guess I'm gonna start putting them together.
Zachary Thomas
This. Closest to a henchman he has is peaches his prized pig, but that's put to shame by Ulix and old major.
Fingers woild have made a great henchman for somer since all somer does is drink moonshine talk about how great he is even though brewmaster makes better shine, Ophelia is a better crew leader, mah has a bigger hat, Ulix is better with pigs, Wong has better gadgets, sparks has done deeper into human territory for better loot and Zoraida makes him feel like the cuck he is.
Here's a picture of a cute piglet
Xavier Walker
Ophelia is his henchmen. She got a boost to master when 2nd ed came out and they expanded gremlins into thier own faction.
Ethan Baker
Maybe that's how you unwind, but I'd be careful. Seems like a situation which could tempt fate...
Jace Allen
>Ophelia is a better crew leader In the fluff maybe. In the States he's much better at leading a crew. (Of gremlins at least)
After the event that saw all the Masters manifest, it seems pretty apparent that Somer is the big bayou boss, to the point he leads his faction more then Ramos or any other matter leads theirs.
Christopher Hall
I've been putting my Sandeep box together for the past few hours. I hate constructing, but I can't let the gaps go, gotta fill them.
Angel Gray
They were just examples, but Burt does fit the bill as he is "henchman and below." I don't get how they redirect? They seem to discourage certain targets, but I can't do a surprise switch with either of them. Is Burt really the only one?
Brody Bennett
I'm jelly. My box with Reva and Anna hasn't arrived yet.
I did get some Drowned to assemble in the meantime since I realized I don't have much in the way of good spirit minions.
Juan Gray
could one of you kind souls sell me on arcanists?
Gavin Ramirez
Filling gaps has to be my absolute least favorite part of assembling models. I have liquid green stuff, but that is only good for bubbles on crappy resin miniatures. I have testors model putty, but that is only good on larger gaps, and without tools just sucks on smaller ones like the gaps you see in Malifaux figures.
James Bell
They have the most in faction variety, are generally powerful, and have the most constructs out of every other faction.
The Ramos box alone will give you a huge stable of good faction models. Combine it with another box and you'll be set.
If I wasn't so invested in Ressers and Gremlins I'd give them a shot too.
Owen Rivera
I'm using aluminum/gray stuff and I don't have the right tools. It's pretty awful. But I am getting it done. Slowly. Also >cleaning a mold line >put too much pressure >cut off one of sandeep's fingers He didn't need it anyways.
Nolan Perez
Anyone got spoilers for the new oni?
Dylan Parker
I've had some luck with this stuff. Used it to fill the shell gaps of my Void Wretches.
Nathaniel Edwards
I do like robots. Any boxes in particular that go well with Ramos?
Benjamin Reyes
I'd have to question the condition of your green stuff. It's pretty wonderful for gap filling. Could try Aves, procreate, or brownstuff if you're really having trouble.
Jayden Gutierrez
Liquid green stuff. It was the stuff that GW put out with Finecast, unlike regular green stuff which is solid and actually does a good job.
Nolan Lopez
malifaux has been helping me unwind a lot lately, gives me something to think about to take my mind off the fact I work in a literal prison.
that sucks bro hope they show up soon.
Jaxson Morales
also I posted this in the last thread but the user who gave me their green skin recipe it's fantastic save for the nurgling green highlights, I swapped it out for a Skarsnik green+ flayed one flesh mix that I think works a little better.
Michael Cooper
Arcanists have surprisingly few actual robots. Aside from the spider bots it's mostly cyborgs.
To answer your question Mei Feng, Ironsides, and Kaeris would get the most use out of the Ramos crew. Joss and Howard Langston can find their place into just about any Arcanist list.
Hudson Brown
Addons for Ramos would be another box of arachnids, electrical creation, metal gamin, rider.
Juan Kelly
Yes, you mentioned it was liquid. Then I'd question the gaps it's filling. It's a wonderful tool for the proper job. I always have multiple epoxies on hand for different situations.
Justin Rodriguez
I assumed you were dropping people off after gencon. We're you bussing inmates around? Feel free to not answer.
Zachary Sanders
I'm a new hire at a prison, I was driving my sister and her GF around cause they are in town and it was my day off. Two unrelated things
Bentley Ramirez
Titania release date? I looked through their previews but didn't see when her box dropped.
Ryder Roberts
I have a Titania and her related cards which I'm looking to get rid of, not the rest of the box though. Oh, well that's good. Hopefully it was fun. Please be careful while assembling your models.
Lincoln Turner
I was tired of it after like 3 hours. been looking forward to assembling my stuff for a good few days now. Just got done with Anna, asami's box, starting on my obsidian oni now, I still have a box of jorogumo and Reva's box left.
John Barnes
How did you get her already? I'm interested if you have pics.
When does her box proper release?
Ayden Ross
what colors should I do for my oni? Since they are summons I'm tempted to go with some off the wall color.