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Still no release date for the Skorne/Ios/Goreshade novel. Anyone else really want this book to come out already? I need to know what the hell happened with these three groups. Especially since Divine Intervention was mentioned.

Trying to get anons at my LGS into Warmahordes. The LGS owner has a hands off policy of "Until X people ask me to stock something, I'm not buying anything related to it." So for testing purposes, I'm going to have to buy two of the battlegroups to teach people how to play, get them interested.

What would be two good groups to start with? I'd prefer to do Warmachine v Warmachine, or Warmachine v Horde. Not so much Horde v Horde.

I'd either go with the new 2 player battlebox or Cygnar v Khador as they are the most iconic factions.

I still haven't had a chance to get a Mk 3 game in yet but I recently picked up the Ret BB, a Soulless Escort, Soulless Voidtracer, & Lanyssa.

I really like Hellyna on paper. Anyone have any early mk3 experiences they want to share?

Managed to get my hands on the Rhulic starter.
What am i even in for with this particular part of the mercenaries.

Helynna is a beast, but she needs two things to be the beast she dreams to be.
1. An Arc Node
2. Sylys the Warcaster attachment

With Sylys he upkeeps RoW for her then applies his buff to her every turn

This leaves her with all 7 focus to spend. 3 for Deceleration vs armies it matters on and 4 to spend on an Oblit or on a boosted Hand of Destruction.

Oblit wont always get to shine, but the fear of it will change how your opponent advances and clusters his shit. For example a spread out Strider unit wont be as big a threat because they wont all be in range to shoot a target.

Hand of Destruction+Manticore shooting is fucked up. I aimed, got 3 shots, pointed em all at a crusader, boosted damage on all three, had Hand of Destruction on said Crusader, and broke the movement as well as a good number of hull boxes. It was brutal.

Then Rhythem of war can keep your arc nodes and lower range jacks safe.

Considering a list with 5 heavies, and 3 arcanists to take advantage of shooting. Armor 20 and 21 jacks of doom.

Probably a dumb question but how tall are the PP bases? I'm trying to magnetize the bases of my models so I can just fit them in a toolbox. But I want to be absolutely certain whatever magnets I order will be the right size.

Yeah, you can't dangle fluff like that and keep people from forking over their money for it. I'd have impulse-buy'd that. Now I'm just schedule-camping.

Don't have dimensions for you user (I recommend just taking the dimensions yourself), but I'll give you some hard-earned experience on that one- tape measures tend to be metal...

That and many people use metal rings for clouds/scathers. Hard to position models with magnetic bases near them.

Rhulic is pretty solid especially in the ARM category and Ossrum is probably their best caster. Fact is you can pick-n-mix your mercs in mk3 so there's no need to tie yourself down to one theme.

For Hordes, just don't get Trolls.

On that side, Circle has the best battlebox.

>just don't get Skorne
fixed

Yes. But I prefer to keep my army thematic. So I'm trying to figure out the best way to do a rhulic force in MK3

People actual PLAY Skorne.

Granted, it seems to be the same impulse that has other people play games on Nightmare setting, but they seem to be getting something worthwhile out of it.

>Madrak2 theme song
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I was referring to the Battleboxes specifically, not making a comment on faction balance.

Does epic feora's coninuous fire upkeep also benefit the little AOEs that come off the Judicator's rockets?

>Skarre's great rack

is she confirmed setting's biggest whore?

anyone get the mini?

>is she confirmed setting's biggest whore?
I wouldn't call her a whore but all Satyxis definitely have big appetites both sexual and murderous.

I think so; they did in Mk2, and while the ability is now an upkeep instead of a bond, I don't think anything relevant to it has changed.

I am gonna hate playing against that then. Oh well. At least I have some good beast casters.

At least Skarre never seems to have sucked someone off for information like Denegrah did.

I'd be more concerned about Malekus, honestly. He's kinda the new Feora2.

Yeah, while Skarre seems like the kind who would gladly suck someone off, I feel like that's only something she'd do for pleasure. I figure she's much more of a torture person when it comes to getting information.

Did that seriously happen?

MFW when the cards leaked Menites were crying salty rivers about how all their shit is trash after the Choir nerfs

Yuuuup, disguised as her sister and blew a trencher.

You infidels only get to be on top until the Revelator actually gets released.

I am more afraid of the sunbursts. Now they dont need to pay for a jack to drop 4 inch death on my infantry.

Holy shit. I bet his friends would never believe him.

They're insanely good. Like, auto-include in every Protectorate list good.

And under Malekus, on feat turn, both direct and indirect hits get an extra die, what they set on fire can't go out, and it gets an extra die when it burns.

Definitely not, since I think she killed him.

Mk1 has some hilarious fluff.

There is a scene where Haley goes looking for Skarre in a bar and Haley finds her practically having sex with a dude already at the bar itself.

That's why Denny has seduction, by the way.

Ha! fuck man. That would never make it in the novels huh?
Yeah, they have been annoying this journeyman league. Really annoying.

did we read the same books? do you have a source on these

I believe Denny and the trencher is from the "Courage" story in NQ 1 or 2. Deneghra was still living at the time.

Haley's encounter with Skarre at the pub was in Apotheosis or Superiority. I can't look at the PDFs at the moment but I remember there being artwork of Haley choking Skarre with her mechanical arm.

...

Honestly, the best part about Skarre is that in Mk1 they gave her the most stereotypical pirate accent you can imagine. It's just wonderful.

I hope all satyxis talk like that.

What color are Satyxis supposed to be? Between the books and the studio paint schemes, they're all over the place. Blue, white, grey, normal flesh tones, which is it?

Doesnt say she was RIDING him.

Blue seems to be more common than any other? But it seems to vary really wildly by artist, and there is no canon answer, to my knowledge.

>Haley finds her practically having sex with a dude
>Skarre straddled his lap

I mean, it's hyperbole, but she was pretty much just grinding on the dude right there at the bar, and it's pretty obvious exactly where she was going with it.

I sincerely doubt Skarre has ever sold her body for money. She is a raw, unapologetic hedonist, though, which does involve a LOT of fucking. Also, that art always bothered me. Her horns are like three times that big.

Pale blue-grey, IMO, with white-on-black eyes. Just painting them to look like humans with horns and pointy ears looks really boring.

On which note, does anyone have a large version of the new Satyxis Raider art? I need a new desktop wallpaper.

>She is a raw, unapologetic hedonist, though

Has there actually been any fiction about her since her fight with Haley in Mk1? About the only time she's mentioned in Mk2 that I can remember is when Sloan spies on her preparing to receive the Athanc convoy. I love the Satyxis, but they always felt kind of sidelined and ignored in the fluff.

>That's why Denny has seduction
Because she can turn into her hotter sister?

>I slept with one of the identical Haley twins!
>Which one?
>The hotter one!

>identical
Well one of them is like a zombie ghost wraith thingy.

Not back when she had Dark Seduction she wasn't.

It's cute about it, but it makes it pretty clear that she was all over him.

What the fuck man,these parts seem to have come out of writing hell.They paint Skarre and Denny more like horny teens than scary eldritch abomination worshippers.
Seriously,this is probably the lowest point in the fluff.

Deneghra at least seems to have matured as a character. There's only one slightly awkward moment where she's trying to seduce Karchev whilst he was captured, the rest of the time she's playing house with her husbundo Asphixious. Sadly Skarre seems to have been left by the wayside.

>the rest of the time she's playing house with her husbundo Asphixious
Don't forget all the times she's been haunting and/or bonding with her sister. Getting ripped in half really took the edge off the sibling rivalry thing for her.

>seduce Karchev
Isn't that guy a head in a jar?

Seduce Karchev?Did she seriously try to seduce a hundred year old dude hooked up to life-support in a giant metal coffin,kept alive only by his rage?
Lol,it's like their trying to cement the fact that she's just a walking pair of tits.Playing house with Gaspy doesn't help,since he desperately needs a hand from smcv territory.The type of bond they have isn't even developed much,since Gaspy is pretty non-chalant about using her

Actually, their bond is pretty heavily explored. They alternate between honestly loving each other(and yea, Denny seems to be the only person Gaspy has any real, honest feelings towards) and a father/daughter relationship

Tbh,I haven't read the denny/gaspy parts so much because the characters seem uninteresting,but does Gaspy legit love denny?Man,that seems weird

I also just realized that makes Gaspy the biggest pedo/sugar daddy in the setting

>Did she seriously try to seduce a hundred year old dude hooked up to life-support in a giant metal coffin,kept alive only by his rage?

At that point he had been ripped out of his armour and was being kept alive as Cryx's prisoner. She didn't actually want to have sex with him, if that was even possible, she was trying to undermine his resolve and break his spirit. It didn't work and she quickly abandoned it.

>The type of bond they have isn't even developed much,since Gaspy is pretty non-chalant about using her

Nope, by the last Mk2 book he views her with a great deal of favour, possibly even affection. When she rides out to cover his escape, he's genuinely worried at the prospect of her dying. I mean, he's a Lich, so his emotions are going to be strange and muted, but he definitely feels something for her.

Unfortunately that still makes Gasp a shitty character imo,that's not how you would expect a 16 century old lich to think or behave

So he's a shitty character because he doesn't fit the broad conceptions of how an Lich should act? Frankly, the fact that he's more than a generic mustache-twirling baddie who views everyone around him as a disposable minion shows he isn't a shitty character. There's more to him than his stereotype.

No,what I'm trying to say is actually the opposite,he isn't more than his stereotype,because his actions and mindset paint him as just an evil,selfish human.His motivation is just hoarding more and more power,which is boring as shit.
And his feelings towards Denny don't make him more developed imo,because it looks like he just discovered emotion for the first time.You'd expect someone older than a millenium to be more in control of himself.

Erm that pretty much states only that she drained the life off him, not fucked him.

I love Skarre's pirate accent! That's not even close to the best of the bizarre Mk1 dialog writing though. Dig up that piece where Vlad shows up to back Irusk with "all" the berserkers. He talks like Bela Lugosi's Dracula... or The Count from Sesame Street. "Good evening! I have come with zees berzerkers... to vipe and vash your vindows! Ah ah ah ah!"

It makes me sad they didn't introduce Gators until Mk2. They probably would have talked like Leatherhead from the TMNT cartoon.

Well, yeah, that was a desperation move though. Haley pulled a coitus interruptus on her.

You are correct.

However, it also makes it pretty clear that just seconds ago she was gearing up to fuck the shit out of him.

>Denny as a walking pair of tits
To be fair to the privateer press writers, I'm not really sure how you'd take a character who's battle armor features a bare midriff, fishnets, and what appears to be an integral breast pump and NOT sexualize her. I think they're just doing their best with what they were given (and, in this case, what they were given is some weird fantasy Matt Wilson had when he was 15 and drew a picture of in the back of his trapper keeper).

He's practically been her father since Skarre kidnapped her. She's a powerful warcaster, she's tricky enough to have a Lich Lord killed and make it look like she had nothing to do with it (although not going "LOOK AT ME, MY OLD BOSS IS A SWORD" like Asphyxious did helps sell the innocence), so she's mastered Cryxian life in a few decades and running circles around people who've been doing it for centuries.

On top of that she's legitimately loyal, which is pretty damn rare where Cryx is concerned.

Gaspy is Shakesperean Skeletor. This whole idea that Liches are "emotionless" falls kind of hollow when they all get angry at every imagined slight and setback.

Even if he just views her as his favorite weapon, she's really a damn good weapon. In like a decade she helped him take over not one, but TWO lich lord's domains. She might as well be the second coming of Thamar. Why should he not be upset at the prospect of throwing her away like some random scrap thrall without even really getting anything out of the deal?

>It makes me sad they didn't introduce Gators until Mk2. They probably would have talked like Leatherhead from the TMNT cartoon.

When Wrongeye/Snapjaw and Rorsh/Brine came out, I was very seriously tempted to make a Morghul Foot Clan army

Hah,the campy talking is a great part of mk1,wish they would keep it.Cajun gators would've been the bomb

I definitely agree with your points,but my problem is still that gaspy and denny are fundamentally the blandest wmh characters,gaspy being the most egregious example,since now he seems even more incompetent
But that's like,just my opinion,man

>"LOOK AT ME, MY OLD BOSS IS A SWORD" - Gaspy
Strange skeleton robots floating around and turning each other into swords is no basis for a system of government!

WHO DARES TALK ABOUT WRACKS?! BEST WRACKS CAN BE FOUND WITHIN THE HOLY LANDS OF THE PROTECTORATE!

REZNIK WHY IS YOUR HEAD SO TINY

Doesn't bother me if you think Gaspy is bland because he's a generic "I want to have all the power just because!" guy, but I don't see how it's incompetence when he steps out of that box every once in a while.

Meanwhile, I am just infinitely amused every time Denegrah gets to do stuff.

>Sister, there's a Lich Lord coming! You'd better not mess with him!
>OH NO, MORBUS IS DEAD! HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED?

>Nemo's gonna get poisoned fighting Khador, you better go there and stop it or else he'll die. Oh, and you can't just warn him, because just us talking is pretty much treason for you.
>SISTER, YOU HAVE BEEN POISONED? HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPP.... Oh hey, free Karchev.

>Remember all those robots and zombies my master didn't want you to have? Here, take some robots and zombies so our bosses don't have a big dumb slap fight while we're fighting literally every civilized nation at once.

>>Remember all those robots and zombies my master didn't want you to have? Here, take some robots and zombies so our bosses don't have a big dumb slap fight while we're fighting literally every civilized nation at once.

The ending of Collosals is still my favorite bit of Gaspy/Denny fluff. Where she's standing on the Necromanufactorum walls, getting trashed by Cygnar and Khador, utterly convinced that Gaspy has decided to let her die for going behind his back...and then he appears, and he's just like "sorry baby, had to pretend I was mad at you to lure out our enemies. I brought you some Krakens. Let's fuck these losers up."

Supervillain romance is the BEST.

I've always pictured Farrows speaking in a thick southern accent and Gatormen with a Louisiana Bayou one

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Seems like the place to ask, I used to play back in mk2 pretty casually and have been looking to get back into the game with a friend. I play trolls and he plays circle, is there a particular meta that's arisen? Is there a unit in either faction we should be taking?

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Victor and some of the new Mk3 stuff out in November.

Where is my Revelator? Why has Menoth forsaken me?

Depends on when you played Mk2.

For Trolls, unless you went seriously meat mountain, they haven't changed that much. With the exception of eMadrak who is now OH MY GOD HE JUST KILLED MY ENTIRE ARMY BY HIMSELF AND IS INVINCIBLE. Burrowers kind of suck now, though.

Circle is also relatively unchanged, although their infantry somehow got worse, and Bradigus went from vying for the best caster in the game to terrible. Wurmwood (the tree is now the caster, Cassius is just his pet) and Tanith (the new Mk3 battlebox caster) are probably the best Circle casters now. The Argus is actually good now. Otherwise, no huge changes to Circle.

She could be seducing a guy to drain the fucking life off him lol.
VTM style.

is the woldwrath worth buying? I want to get him but does he on really go with Baldur2 and that's pretty much it?

That always bothers me. Why would you continue to give the blow job if you got the info?
>inb4 my girlfriend loooves sucking me off
i bet you still believe in santa too.

Denny & Gaspy's playing house is my favorite part of the fluff. I wish there was more of it especially after their weird almost hug in the last book

I like when he revives her in Apotheosis, followed by when Denny pretends to want to kill him in the Aporheosis wrap up but just uses Eclipse to bop him away

In terms of power, she's basically an Iron Lich.

If she wanted to just drain someone, she could pretty much have anyone she wanted without any fuss.

IT CONTAINS ALL THE INTELLIGENCE I REQUIRE!
THINK ME FUNNY? MEET FIST!

blessed is the mind too small for doubt

Well she is vile, evil and etc. She might want to play with her prey.

And turned him into a Bane Thrall.
And now his Bane friends would not believe him...

Yeah, that's the hotter one.

If we're all done talking about Skarre and Denny''s sex lives, the crossroads of courage campaign rules are up.

Holden is a merc/minion weapon attachment.

Does he save people while in terrain granting concealment?

I'm annoyed they didn't show us the base card in the pdf. We know his combat stats but not what makes the two different.

Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points

(Madrak 2) Madrak Ironhide, World Ender [+28]
- Dire Troll Mauler [15]
- Troll Axer [10]
- Troll Bouncer [9]
- Slag Troll [10]
- Pyre Troll [9]
Trollkin Fennblades (max) [15]
Trollkin Champions (max) [17]
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6]
- Stone Scribe Elder [3]
Fell Caller Hero [5]
Troll Whelps [4]

Can someone advise me on this list? I'm kinda not happy with it but I'm unsure what I want to change about

Those fucking pauldrons are retarded. If they were any longer they would completely eclipse his hand. They probably weigh like 75 pounds each and do fuck-all in combat. That is seriously the stupidest shit I have ever seen.
and I fucking love it.