1. Ork efficiency is based on their belief. They think a thing works, it works, Waaaagh, bullshit, okay.
2. Orks do not just wreck everything with their most basic booboo bullshit.
3. Orks must all be clinically depressed and doubt themselves so hard that they cant believe that their shootas cant penetrate puny huumie tin can metal boxes.
Ork belief only has a mild effect, increased by the number of orks in the area who believe that thing.
One ork believing a vehicle will run, for instance, won't make it run. It takes a bunch of them.
It's not as powerful as you think it is. The Ork effect is basically like reaching into the Warp and covering everything with duct tape and magnets. It keeps their shit from breaking down when they fail to maintain it and it lets some things work that by all rights should blow up upon first use, but it's not just magic.
I mean, it is just magic. But you know what I mean.
All your saying is that one group of Orks need a fuckin pep' talk to believe that their silly willpower guns will penetrate whatever the fuck they want it to.
You're not a very bright person.
This. An ork cannot pick up a rock and make it shoot bullets just because he says it should.
He could, however, throw it really far if he thinks it's some kind of really special rock
If they will it into being whatever bullshit it is they think it will be, then a pep talk is all it takes.
For fucks sake, they will a giant pile of scrap vaguely shaped like a discarded pile of third party 3d printed minis into a titan and it fucks shit up just fine.
You're taking the waaagh magic far more literally than GW ever intended
Probably because he's literally a moron.
>implying
What point are you making with that image?
Just implying implication that imply.
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>‘Have you learned anything else?’ Van Auken asked.
>Urquidex turned and snapped on a hololithic projector that enveloped the monstrous brain in a fluxing field representation.
>‘What is that?’ the artisan asked.
>‘Honestly?’ the magos said, ‘I don’t know. I happened upon the frequency by accident. This is the barest manifestation of it, I can tell you that. It has been fading since biological cessation.’
>‘If you had to make an informed guess, magos?’
>‘Some kind of field or emanation,’ Urquidex said. ‘It seems to be coming from deep within the brain structure– again, an evolutionarily ancient feature.’
>‘Could it be psionic in nature?’ Van Auken asked cautiously.
>‘Unknown,’ Urquidex said with equal reservation, ‘not my area of specialisation. However, watch this.’
>Urquidex directed a pair of servitors into the foil tent. Between them they carried an alien weapon: some kind of barbaric chopping implement sporting a chain of revolving teeth like a chainsword. A brute motor was built into its ungainly shaft, the handle of which was scored with primitive glyphs and graffiti. The magos directed the drones to slip the savage weapon into the beast’s death-stiffened grip, and lay the great shaft of the weapon and its murderous headpiece across the greenskin’s open and organ-excavated chest.
>‘What are you doing?’ Van Auken asked, as Urquidex directed a servomat to attach power couplings to the weapon’s monstrous motor. ‘Magos?’
>‘Clear…’ Urquidex said, before instructing the servomat to supply power to the weapon from its own core.
>The serrated chain of the chopper roared to life, the clunky machinery of its motor squealing and crunching, the gore of the Emperor’s Angels spraying Van Auken from the monstrous weapon’s thrashing teeth. The artisan stepped back and wiped the speckles of old blood from his face.
>‘Turn it off,’ he commanded.
>‘As you wish,’ Urquidex said, selecting an autopsy cleaver with a monomolecular edge from a rack of similarly macabre tools. Swinging the cleaver down with force, the magos chopped at the hulking wrist of the greenskin. It took a number of strikes, with the cleaver-blade biting through flesh and bone. With a final strike the claw-hand was separated from the meat of the arm– and the weapon chugged, bucked and died. Van Auken stepped back towards the creature with fresh interest.
>‘It still has power?’
>‘The problem isn’t power,’ Urquidex assured the artisan-primus. ‘The weapon has suffered a malfunction, which isn’t surprising given the poor quality of its construction and maintenance. I fear that this field– swiftly depleting and dissipating after death– in some way aids the crude workings of such creations.’
--The Beast Arise Book 2 "Predator, Prey"
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>+++The Crash Landing +++
>Reports reach our command that a single aircraft, of an unknown designation, has been shot down over the Charybdis Crest facility. Examination of the wreckage reveals it to be of Ork origination, and though the pilot survived the crash (note that once captured he insisted on calling it a landing) it is uncertain what his purpose in coming here was. A crude distress beacon was later discovered in the wreckage – this machinery was initially dismissed since no power source could (or indeed can) be found to empower it. Therefore it remains unclear if this was some sort of reconnaissance flight, and if it was, whether or not the Ork creatures are now aware of our presence. Vigilance of the Charybdis Crest Fire Warriors must be increased to watch for any hostile intent.
>It appears that the crashed Ork that hit the Charybdis Crest did indeed manage to signal his fellows. A massive column of smoke-belching vehicles are even now en-route to assault our position there. All Fire Warriors are ordered to repulse this attack without mercy. Orks are a strong foe, which fight with great vigour, but they are to be offered no quarter. Protect the Celestial Accumulator at all costs!
>The Escape
>Unbelievable as it may seem, the Ork prisoner captured at the onset of hostilities on Medusa when his ramshackle aircraft crashed on our position at the Charybdis Crests facility has escaped. Over the weeks, the Fio caste noticed a marked increase in his aggression and physique as the fighting against the Orks intensified, though they could discern no obvious cause for this. The wreckage of his aircraft had been left untouched once the homing equipment had been removed and was left as scrap – the Fio declaring that it would never fly again (and should never have flown in the first place!), yet it appears that the Ork was not only able to break his bonds, but to get his craft into the air. A squadron of Piranha were sent to bring him down, but after a brief report of contact, nothing has been heard from them since…
The waaagh field is blown way outta proportion, their tech works, however it is ramshackle and crudely made, its simply works better and more efficiently because orks believe it does, people who pick up their guns and use them find they jam and misfire a lot but still work as guns
Guys, chill out. This isn't the first time someone has taken ork psychic powers to 11 and it won't be the last.
It's more how inconsistient lore is about it. One time you have perfectly normal, if crude, guns that somehow jam less than they should. On the other hand there are descriptions where guns don't even have firing mechanism and ejectors, but shot when used by Orks.
Well, if you could penetrate a metal bawks with a regular shoota, what use would da bigga unz have?
Everything has rare edge cases.
Not sure where you got those examples from tho
I think the example he is referring to "no firing mechanism and ejectors" comes from an old codex. I have read it myself but I would need to dig through old material to find the exact book.
Yet bait threads get more discussion or replies than regular lore threads
It's basic essay writing 101 I believe the term was called "shocking statement" or "reeling the reader in"
Pro tip try using thesis statements in threads and see how much posters you can get
Wasn't that from an Imperial perspective, anyway?
It could have been something like a looted shuriken gun or fleshborer, the Imperial would have never understood what abomination of orky tech and... other things was in front of him.
Just because Orks believing in something makes it work better, it doesn't follow that them believing in something totally makes it infinitely better. The Waaagh-effect has an upper limit, proportional to the number of Orks around.
Could an inspirational leader strengthen the effect by inspiring them more? Probably; Orks getting more dangerous under a strong leader is a thing.
But "this thing can produce a finite effect, therefore it failing to produce an infinite effect is just laziness" is faulty logic.
True but I don't think it was clear to casual readers so they took it face value.
Meks make some vary complex machines from scratch and its more likely that the Waagh power functions as a sort of grease that keeps parts moving. With orks unstable thought process it would explain why those complex devices explode from time to time.
How come this shit never gets said about the Eldar or Chaos? Their technology is often just as reliant on psychic effects. In fact, pretty much everyone except the necrons and tau have psionic tech. The imperium manages to pull plenty of bullshit with the power of faith, but nobody ever seems to say 'get a bunch of sisters of battle to believe it and make it come true'.
Because people don't like the idea that a ork of simple mind and lives only for war would have such power. Also ork lore is inconsistent by a large margin. Some clame orks can only loot tech but then some how orks spread across the galaxy atleast over 50k years after there creators died out.
This is probably the best lore reason.