Was it worth the wait?

Was it worth the wait?

Why is Judge Dredd a gunship?

>user says Deathwatch is not part of the Inquisition
>Giant Inquisition logos everywhere and on every marine

Explain this to me user.

As far as non-forgeworld space marine flyers go, this is the least offensive

It's not bad. It's kind of like a DA flyer that ate too much.

If these were the Storm Raven and Storm Talon, respectively, all would be right with the world.

The Deathwatch codex the symbol is not the symbol of the Inquisition. It's the symbol of the Deathwatch.

There is no one who has authority over the Deathwatch.

Scratch off the imperial bling and it can pass for an XCOM Skyranger

Star Craft Dropship? I thought they didn't have guns?

So much better than the Stormraven.

Now i want an xcom mini game

This. Fooking Storm Raven and Storm Talon is stupidly small and fat.

Also love how the suits thought the Storm Raven wasn't cheesy enough to sell the models so they added the ability to transport a dreadnaught.

They need to make that ship longer and maybe make it a hybrid thunderhawk vehicle and infantry transport by having it have an empty space to hold a Rhino/ravorback and have a special tule to mimic the movie aliens where when the storm raven lands it deploys the rhino and it can automatically go flat out.

Hell I want battle tech miniatures in GW quality plastic.


I see games with Imperial knights escorted by sentinels fighting ork stompers and Tau Riptides and it makes me wish there was 25mm sized Battletech game with mechs, infanty, flyers and tanks.

that's the death watch symbol.
inquisition one is different, larger skull and no crossbones.

>They need to make that ship longer
Hello this is stormeagle.Can I help you?

Cease production of the curret Storm Raven and teplace it with a plastic kit of this, and I'll be happy.

Excuse me?

Deathwatch is the military arm of Ordo Xenos, which is the "fuck xenos" part of the Inquisition. Deathwatch answer directly to the inquisition, and they are more or less the Inquisition's bitch.

This is also true fro Grey Knights, but replace Ordo Xenos with Ordo Malleus.

Also
>There is no one who has authority over the Deathwatch.
Implying the Inquisition doesn't have authority over everything. Even the wolves. They just don't know it.

Check the new codex. Since been retconned that they're directly under the inquisition

Storm Raven and Storm Talon are better when I think of them as Gunships, not full aircraft

Then why are the Sisters of Battle considered the military arm of the Ordo Hereticus, even though it's obviously a separate organization controlled by the Ecclesiarchy?

It's worth waiting for the next CSM supplement!

You better be shitting me.
Because now DW is running around with giant "NOT!Inquisition" signs like idiots. If this is true, all I can say is good job geedubz.

they're a chapter now :^)

Shut the fuck up you little shit, I haven't confirmed it yet.

Their symbol stands for the Imperium, not the Inquisition

It's okay. They're just a normal chapter drawn from other chapters

Aquila is the Imperium's symbol.

>‘You are needed on this mission more than you are on Terra,’ Koorland went on. ‘And as I told you, Veritus is going too.’

>Thane let out a bark of mirthless laughter. ‘We aren’t just going where an inquisitor points us. We will be led by the Inquisitorial Representative himself. We will trust a High Lord not to take us to destruction?’

>‘No,’ said Koorland. ‘We aren’t going to trust him at all. He knows the way to where he thinks you may find the Sisters of Silence. Use his information. Listen to what he has to say. But the mission is yours. You are a Chapter Master leading Adeptus Astartes. The Deathwatch is not the Inquisition’s to command.’

Literally every Space Marine chapter thinks this.
But when shit hits the fan, they bend over to the Inquisition and bite the pillow.

>TL;DR Nothing new to see here.

You do know that the I shows up on more than just the inquisition. its part of all of the branches of the imperial government including the high lords of terra.

The Deathwatch is an organization independent of the Inquisition. It was founded when the marines forced the High Lords to do it. If the Inquisition steps out of line when it comes to using xenos tech, then it's the job of the Deathwatch to go after the Inquisition.

>The Inquisition is an organization that's independent of the Inquisition.


Well I suppose that's technically true given inquisitors fondness for working alone

>The Inquisition is an organization that's independent of the Inquisition.

Well the Imperium works with a "a hand grips the other hand and both strangle the neck" mentality. Of course everyone pretends to be independent.

It is a fairly old recon now. Since 6th edition SoB, grey knights and the deathwatch have been formally spereated from the inquistion. They remain best buds with the inquistion though.

>more radical members of their order have been known to treat with the alien or even use xenos weaponry in order to defeat a greater threat. The extreme reaction this engenders in the Deathwatch, who are by nature of a more puritan bent, has led to bloodshed on more than one occasion

tfw some muhreen stabs you with a Necron sword for being a radical because you shot an Ork with a pulse rifle

Clearly not.

There are PLENTY of stories of Marines giving the Big I the finger because muh honor, muh secrets.
Sometimes it ends well, like Death of Antagonis with Black Dragons, sometimes it doesn't, like Celestial Lions in Blood and Fire.

Ten millenia in MS Paint

Good Job. Did giggle.

the aquilla is one of them. But the Imperial I is in a most organisarions symbols too like the deathwatch or inquisition symbols. The Navy has a ships wheel in the I, the Echlesiarchy is an I with a skull in a sunburst and The Arbites Symbol is this.

>necrodermis-made

It's made from necrodermis. You don't say a normal knife is "steel made".

>stabs you with a Necron sword because you shot an Ork with a pulse rifle

It is a tautology used as a literary device.

My normal knife is made of wood.

>There is no one who has authority over the Deathwatch.
except inquisition

>Autismo, activate!

Or we make them disappear.

>Ordo Hereticus sends Junior Inquisitor for routine inspection.
>Invite him to dinner aboard the Tower of Angels.
>He tries to contact his ship, discovers his vox is being jammed.
>Astropaths aboard Inquisitor's ship try to send a warning signal, Librarius is jamming them too.
>Deathwing teleports onto ship, kills the crew and sends the ship on a suicide course into the nearby star.
>Blam Inquisitor the second he reaches for his gun when he sees this happen, vaporize the body with excess plasma.
>Mindwipe all serfs of the Chapter to make sure nobody remembers, mindwipe everybody outside of Deathwing, Ravenwing, and Veterans to be extra safe.

>Dear Inquisitor, we never made contact with your Junior Inquisitor and never heard of him until you contacted us about his disappearance. Perhaps his ship jumped into Ork territory and he was killed by an Ork sniper boarding party?

You forgot
>Mindwipe the Deathwing, Ravenwing and Veterans anyway just to be sure.

It's pretty OK. I wouldn't pay money for it or anything, but then I'm not the biggest spess mehreen fan.

Nah, they've already been through initiation into the inner circles of the Chapter and know they'll get disappeared too if they question actions.

And you wouldn't say it was "steel-made", would you?

QED

Did this ever actually happen, or is it just your uberautism?

It's ludicrousautism user, get it right.

Inquisitors tend to disappear by ork snipers a lot when dealing with secretive chapters

I thought it was the other way around.

dependa on who's codex it is. Probably inquisitors winning more often though.
they don't have to be as sneaky aland underhanded about things as they actually have the authority to declare chapters as traitors.

That Inquisitor was probably a traitor, anyway. Who did he ever beat?

>If the Inquisition steps out of line when it comes to using xenos tech, then it's the job of the Deathwatch to go after the Inquisition.

No. That is LITERALLY the Ordo Hereticus' job.

No, but if I were to get one of those gay liberal steel-made knifes, I'd describe the fuck out of it's material.

Everybody shares. That's the Imperium way.

Its also ordo xenos' job.
And deathwatch.
And space marines sometimes if they think it is (and have the backing to deal with the blowout)
And admech. Although the ][ disputes this. But both sides by memory operate on the "we wont push the issue if you dont" so whoever survived would probably be declared right.
Oh and IG.
Although they get executed either way without a fucking voidtight case.

Well of course he wouldn't. It's wood-made, isn't it.

QED

Who does NOT watch over the watchmen?

The Emperor.

Oh AND the Sisters of Battle as xeno stuff is heretical.
AND the Arbites as it's illegal.

And all of them will fight over who gets to do it as it's the main form of dick waving they get to do.

And Rogue Traders who think the Inquisitor is competition for his Xenoarcheology business.

Usually in those cases, the Inquisitor just shrugs and becomes the Rogue Traders biggest customer, or offers a highly profitable business merger.

I like the design but I'm disappointed by the model. They cut a lot of corners to keep it down to two sprues and it lost a lot of modularity and potential for customization as a result.

They send another Inquisitor with a flotilla to escort them.

Shame the =][= is fixed. Would have loved to buy some as Valkyries for some Aliens themes Guardsmen.

Fun fact: At the start of starcraft 2's development all those years ago, they had a small defensive gun. It was phased out mostly due to balance and the dropships didn't stay behind the army.

That never specifically happend but is very much in line with the Unforgiven's way of handling things

Where does the eathwatch draw funds from in the newest fluff? Are they still maintained by the Inquisition?

>Where does the eathwatch draw funds from in the newest fluff?

The Chapters they come from. They also get support from other firms of the Imperium.

No it's wrong is what it is. Go tautologize someplace else.

>Deathwatch answer directly to the inquisition, and they are more or less the Inquisition's bitch.
No, it's a joint venture.

Also
>Implying the Adeptus Astartes doesn't have authority over everything. Even the High Lords of Terra. They just don't know it.

>someone didnt read the DW RPG corebook properly

From wherever they want to.A Watch Commander/Master can petition to both the Holy Inq as well as various chapters (or any personal contacts). A very comfortable position.

Chapter worlds aren't required to tithe to the Imperium, but they'll contribute to the upkeep and supply of watch fortresses in their domain because it's strategically (and politically) advantageous to have one.

I didn't think anyone was waiting for anything in particular.

I've been waiting for a Space Marine flyer that doesn't look like a coat hanger abortion, so...

>50 ton mech: 80 USD...

Only if you'd only need 4 mechs max plus troop and vehicle support.

Doesn't Deathwatch use xeno tech as well now?

>now
they have always been trained in the use of xenotech, and charged with the duty of capturing alien shit for study/reverse-engineering

All of the Inquisition's leg breakers have been using Necron gadgets for the last thirty years.

Pic related.

Or the inquisitor issues him/herself a warrant of trade, orchestrates a hostile takeover and becomes the major dealer in the cold trade in-sector, pretends to be filtering out the more harmful stuff, pockets what he wants and throws missions to everyone else to stamp out any competition.
>oh rogue trader Sirrah Sillaypantaloons is undercutting me on jen-yoo-ine kroot necklaces? Time to tip off the fucking Sisters of Maximum Collateral Damage.

With Kickasstorrents down I have no source of epubs anymore. Does anyone have a link to the new Deathwatch codex in epub, mobi or pdf?

More GW Spam

>Or the inquisitor issues him/herself a warrant of trade
It doesn't work that way but okay.

Link to latest beast novel please, i'll be your friend.

>Was it worth the wait?
what the fuck am I looking at?

LOL
>more radical members of their order have been known to treat with the alien or even to use use xeno weaponry in order to defeat a greater threat. The extreme reaction this engenders...

fucking space marines get pissy when someone use xeno weapons, mean while said space marines have necron blade weapons.

The ][ with 3 bars across it is the symbol of the Inquisition, just like on Grey Knights.

Yes, the aquila represents the Imperium. But the ][ is a symbol used for various organizations within the Imperium. Administatum as a circle with a lower case 'a' inside it. Fleet has a halo with a wheel inside it. High Lords is an aquila with an ][ inside it and a halo and skull above it. Arbites has . Custodes an ][ with an eagle head and thunderbolts (Emperor's old symbol). Astronomica a halo with a skull in the middle. Astra Telepathica the same except an eye instead of a skull.

In Legacy a rogue trader charter was signed by the Emperor and his signature was an ][ with an X over it. Maybe symbolizing his old thunderbolt symbol?

High grade BT models would be great, especially using some of the updated designs.

But fuck no to 25mm scale. The scale it's at is just fine for what the game wants to represent. GW fucked up 40k and WHFB by having them be games of huge battles at the wrong scale.

>Deathwatch is the military arm of Ordo Xenos, which is the "fuck xenos" part of the Inquisition. Deathwatch answer directly to the inquisition, and they are more or less the Inquisition's bitch.

They are not, though. The Deathwatch a Chapter of the Adeptus Astartes (of a unique sort) that is its own organization with its own Chapter Master and Chapter hierarchy. As such, they are TECHNICALLY bound by nobody but the God-Emperor himself and the High Lords of Terra.

HOWEVER, as the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Xenos, they have a very tight working relationship with the Ordo Xenos, and collaborate very frequently, trusting each other and sharing information in ways not normal between Space Marines and other organizations. While the Inquisitors commands are generally followed (as few Inquisitors would dare to waste the Deathwatches time for trivial matters) the Deathwatch is not "legally" required to follow their every word, and may theoretically refuse their orders (or more commonly just handle the order at their own priority). Inquisitors have "universal" power, but it also comes with the caveat of "don't piss off the people you work with," which is why most Inquisitors respect the authority of the Deathwatch and don't bother them with trivial shit that isn't worth their time.

This is same for the Grey Knights and the Sisters of Battle - the Grey Knights are a unique Chapter, and the Sisters are the armed forces of the Ecclessiarchy. Both work very tightly with their respective Ordos, but they are not the same thing and may have different goals at different times.

>The Deathwatch a Chapter of the Adeptus Astartes (of a unique sort) that is its own organization with its own Chapter Master and Chapter hierarchy. As such, they are TECHNICALLY bound by nobody but the God-Emperor himself and the High Lords of Terra.

Thanks, GW, for once again taking something small from the world and turning it into another full blown army to sell minis.

Hey, man, I don't know what planet you're from but here on Earth we like getting cool new models and bits with which to embellish existing models.

You can do all of that but you still can't catch me.

They have a SHITLOAD of bases though, and a ton of killteams too. Their primary HQ responsible for training just three chapters has like 150 marines alone. And it has dozens of watch stations attached to it.

I actually like the idea of the Deathwatch being one good way a lot of marine chapters can put their overstrength marines in and then call them back if the home chapter takes a shitload of damage.

That way the Deathwatch gets like 10k or so marines to man all the various watch obligations and posts at any given time.