>Just realised my next 2k list has 0 shooting I hope this doesn't bite me in the ass
Logan Hughes
>"Hey user, this will be your opponent today" >"Hi, I'm 120 handgunner guy"
Jacob White
>Hey i hope you don't mind i'm bringing Neffy and a bunch of Bat swarms >Oh and a flying squad of Blood Knights I heard some user here was doing a Napoleonic themed list, how OP is it ?
Anthony Gutierrez
How many points would people pay for blue and brimstone horrors? My group is pretty casual so theyd probably let me use them if i can balance them out with rough points. I was thinking 120 for 20 cause their about as good as grots. Brimstones id put at 60 for 20. Puts a full chain of 10 pink horrors at 300 points.
Of course theres the weird rules of the blue horrors spawning in different units and how that works with min unit stuff, but i think its fine if you just play it your paying for the 20 no matter what unit they are in.
Lincoln Ward
Should I have some two handed weapons in my Liberators unit or just one handed and shield?
Christian Carter
That depends. What role do you want them to fit in your army?
Connor Price
As far as I know aren't they best used as a tar pit or the anvil part of hammer and anvil? I only have the Get started box atm anyway
David Jones
Shields give them a bit more staying power in that case, allowing them to reroll 1s for their saves.
Henry Rivera
How well do Slaves of Darkness amd Beastmen blend together? Should I invest into Minotaurs, or look else where?
Brayden Wright
Good luck finding the brets...
Parker Gomez
>two-handed weapons Yes. Always take one on your prime and, if you field ten blokes, a second one on a random trooper. They still benefits from the shields carried by the rest of the unit as long as one shield grunt is alive. Most of the damage the unit does (which won't be much, usually) will come from grandweapons.
>two one-handed weapons Never fucking ever.
Luke Thomas
What does /WIP suggest for a good starter airbrush arround £100/120?
Jacob Brown
Damnit wrong thread...but if anyone has any suggestions, all the same
Owen Diaz
Who /bloodbound/ here?
Nolan Ortiz
Beastmen are pretty great. Dunno about minotaurs, but gors and ungors are great as a source of dirtcheap battleline units that aren't hot garbage like Blood Reavers. Ungor with bows are also nice because chaos is lacking in the non-Skaven ranged department.
Carson Ross
>good starter airbrush
Compressor with tank, a cheap airbrush for priming, cleaning pot, AV grey primer, cleaner, thinner. That should be under £100. Start with priming the models only, once you feel confident, grab an better airbrush.
Nolan Perez
Now that White Dwarf is monthly, shoudn't the release schedule be monthly? Or at least tell us/give us clues about what is coming in the month? I don't mind going back on forth on 40k and AoS releases, but it sucks not knowing when the Deathwatch release is going to end
Isaiah Morgan
>Started collecting 1 month before GHB. >Decide to only buy new models after painting the ones i have. >Painted 4 Brutes so far ....
Maybe one day i will get to play a game. I spent 3 hours after work just on the damn skin for 1 model. I'm not even good at painting.
Jacob Russell
Well as a new guy when does white dwarf usually drop? But from what I've noticed it does give clues or it has since they revamped it. I think September is an AoS month too.
Steamheads hopefully.
Michael Mitchell
Apparently the weekly releases will be announced first on social media, because GW is now down wiv tha kids.
Tyler Barnes
I got the oppisite problem, i have like 30-40 models all built but with no paint and i refuse to play a game until i have everything done which feels like an entirety
Logan Martin
It's ok user. Try what I do - I've stopped setting goals, because that makes painting feel like a chore. I've just set up my paint station so it's very easy to pick up and paint, and put it down whenever, and I'll leave several different models lying around. Just stop by and put some paint on when you're bored, and every now and then you'll get some random inspiration and be there for 2-3 hours or so.
Aaron Davis
That, and we'd throw a bitchfit if they went back to monthly silences.
Luis Stewart
>open webstore at 10 >look at pre orders tadaa
Michael Lewis
The rumour was stuff would be shown on social media before saturday morning (or friday evening if you go on the NZ site). We'll see, I guess.
Brody Ross
I'm picking up a Death army because I like the look of them basically.
How do they fare on the table top?
Any Advice for someone who is just starting?
I really like the skeleton vibe if that helps
Josiah Collins
What date we getting this stuff? The first of the month?
Sorry for the dumb question new to the GW thing.
Jaxon Young
Death are s strong army and skeletons are a good way to go. Get the horde starter kit and buy more skeletons on top of that. Equip them with spears in big blocks.
Blake Bennett
Well, this new monthly WD and so on probably won't be like how they did things with monthly WDs before, so we don't really know exactly how it'll all pan out.
Michael Nguyen
I think it's going to remain mostly as it has been for the past few years. Pre-orders for next week's stuff on the website on saturday.
The only difference is that we won't get any weekly WD 'leaks' anymore, but I expect those will be replaced with facebook teasers like what they did with Deatwatch.
Josiah Perry
Very Strong if you like horde armies Nice Heroes
Most liekly the weakest in terms of alliegence "toys" though
Ryan Gray
What army is a good counter for Sylvaneth... a guy in my small group now has like 4 treemen and Drycha...
Evan Barnes
Khorne filth out.
This is Tzeentch territory.
Noah Baker
ARCANITES WHEN GW?!?!
Logan Roberts
After Jetpack Dorfs. So October maybe.
Definitely before New Years.
Logan Flores
Fyreslayers. Their priests turn their precious forests into deathtraps.
Jack Martinez
Could somebody please post a screenshot of the free guilds point values? I'm away from home and can't open the pdf and i need to look at them.
Jose Jenkins
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Adam Adams
God I hope those come soon. I just got into the hobby and want to see if i like the aesthetic to make em' my first army.
If not them it;s gonna be fyreslayers
Matthew Morgan
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Julian Hughes
They're meant to be next month, so should be soon.
Eli Richardson
>Played 1k Khorne for the first time >Slaughtered Brets and Seraphon in the name of the blood god
I need to get the banner guy though, that 1+ attack will be very handy.
Liam Gomez
Got some minor rules question that I can't seem to find an aswer for.
1. I know that the player who deploys his entire army first chooses who goes first, but how do you determine who actually starts deploying? Would be kinda important if both players have the same amount of units.
2. While the rules do clearly say this... it just doesn't seem right. It says that a unit only gets +1 save from cover if the *entire* unit is in the terrain. so if 39 gobbos ar ein a wood, and one guy in the far back is not, does that mean that they don't get cover?
3. If I shoot a unit, but can only reach a certain number of guys, can I still kill more guys than I reach?
Thanks guys!
Landon Robinson
1. You roll off or the scenario states. 2. Yes, every model has to be in cover. 3. Yes you can afflict wounds to models even if you can't see them. But only models that are within range and can see the enemy unit can make attacks.
Asher Nelson
>1. I know that the player who deploys his entire army first chooses who goes first, but how do you determine who actually starts deploying? Would be kinda important if both players have the same amount of units.
Dice roll.
>2. While the rules do clearly say this... it just doesn't seem right. It says that a unit only gets +1 save from cover if the *entire* unit is in the terrain. so if 39 gobbos ar ein a wood, and one guy in the far back is not, does that mean that they don't get cover?
Nope.
>3. If I shoot a unit, but can only reach a certain number of guys, can I still kill more guys than I reach?
Yes and no. Only those models within range can attack or be attacked, but if you do more damage than there are models in ranges the damage will spill over to the models outside of that range.
Aaron Anderson
Thank you. The cover one seems to be pretty stupid, but at least my small elite army will (probably) never really be affected. Feel really bad for horde players though.
Carter Jackson
Being a Grots player is suffering when it comes to cover
Jeremiah Gomez
Eh, Horde players usually get special rules for their bulky hordes to keep them safe or make them more deadly, so it compensates.
Wyatt Reed
Alliance Age of Sigmar tournament results
1 Order 2 Destruction 3 Chaos 4 Death 5 Death 6 Destruction 7 Order 8 Stormcast 9 Destruction 10 Destruction
2nd 3x Frostlord on Stonehorn 1x Thundertusk Beastclaw Riders 3x 10 Savage Orruks
3rd 2x Great Unclean One 2x 10 and 1x 20 Plage Bearers 2x 6 Plague Drones
Justin Gomez
>People brought powerlists to a tournament >More at 11
Christopher Parker
You think the new dorfs will have a new keyword like fyreslayers or do you think they will squeeze them into dispossessed?
Jaxon Johnson
For no real established reason i'm suspecting a release like the sylvaneth. Or their faction being about that size options wise. Probably with a steamheads keyword too.
Xavier Howard
I like it because it makes it easy to deny you opponent from getting the benefit if you are defending
Charles Kelly
What do you like about Age of Sigmar /aosg/?
William Adams
I think they'll have the steamhead keyword.
If we're going for the whole "lore" aspect I think the new dorfs will be the members of grungni's Iron Karak.
Or atleast I hope so.
Nolan Turner
I have a hope they steal over the gyro copters, from the rumors it seems they'd slot right in.
Jackson Taylor
The relative freedom when listbuilding. You can make some really cool things, like steampunk dwarves, or mix a lot of Order units and make an army similar to the Haven faction Heroes of might and magic.
Samuel Lewis
If they do make a more steam punk faction like people seem to think, I don't think they will be the Dispossessed. The word itself refers to people without or having lost their home. The current Dispossessed faction is supposed to be that I think. Dwarfs that are remnant forces from holds that have fallen. It's possible they'll be called Steamhead. That word/tag has been floating around for a while.
My personal hope for Duardin is that down the road we get a resurgence of the rune magic theme. They used to have incredibly powerful rune magic a couple thousand years before the End Times. But too many Runelords died off without passing along their knowledge and for some unexplained reason a lot of the most powerful runic relics were losing their power. They used to have big runic golems that were crazy strong and the holds all had anvils of doom.
Compared to 8th Edition, most of the runic abilities we have available now are pretty underwhelming IMO. The only ones I really consider worth using are Forgefire(+1 rend) on the normal Runelords and Rune of Oath and Steel(+1 save) on Thorek. The rest are weak enough options comparatively that I would hardly ever use them. I only use Rune of Wrath and Ruin(d3mw) with Thorek because I can't use Oath and Steel twice.
Owen Gonzalez
I believe they will. I mean they fit right in to a steampunk dwarf aesthetic.
Considering the rumors seem to point to them of pic related but with cogs I don't see why not.
Jaxon Howard
Just found it interesting, I haven't really been looking for tourney results but came across these and to see the top 4 being one of each grand alliance was really surprising.
I had my 'frostlord' for months so hope nobody thinks im a powergamer when I slap him down on the table now
Aiden Richardson
If they do they're a fucking crybaby.
Levi Gomez
Literally all my runelord does is sit on top of a dragonfate dais and bless +forgefire my units.
Tyler Foster
Has anyone here tried using fimir warriors? Are they any good? They look good on paper and I am considering nabbing a few for my mixed destruction force.
Nathaniel Robinson
Bought start collecting greenskinz the other day and promised myself that I wouldn't buy any more until they're painted as otherwise I'll get overwhelmed. Just found 36 orcs on sprue and a boar chariot for £6 on ebay. I'm both ecstatic and horrified at once
Benjamin Cox
Fyreslayers = Dwarfs that follow Grimnir, who is the naked angry god Steamheads = Dwarfs that follow Grungni, who is the tech god Dispossessed = Average joe dwarfs who have rune magic
That's my head canon to how it should go down, that way we can get some nice variation going
Jordan Gray
See that's what I don't get about the new lore.
Grungni is still the god of smithing right?
Andrew Perry
Thats pretty much how I see it. That theres only a few holds left, held by fyreslayers and Steamheads, while dispossessed are the remnants of destroyed holds.
Jacob Phillips
what are the feelings on sigmarines from a fluff perspective? Am I weird for liking them?
Benjamin Richardson
No. If steamheads don't come out they're my second choice behind fyreslayers, I personally like them a lot.
Ryder Murphy
To make goals is what drives us ever forward. When you remove yourself of goals, no matter what, you have nothing to strive for.
What you describe is a recipe for laziness, and that my friend, is a disaster in a hobby like this.
Elijah Thomas
You can always just say "I wont play that, because its an unfair list next to mine".
When we play, we use points as a reference value. We use the one rules and battle-line rule. But then we head over to the narrative gameplay and do epic matches with the rules reference of the chosen scenario.
Before deployment we look at our lists, and simply determine if they are somewhat similar, and I'm not talking points now, its more of a unit by unit comparison.
Tyler Brooks
Yeah, Grungni is the Forge God. He ended up using Dwarf-God magic to give Sigmar the energy to forge the Stormcast. In the Season of War, the dorfs along with the ironweld arsonal end up learning how to harvest realmstone and use it as a power source. It's not officially confirmed but it's very likely that they're followers of Grungni.
Oliver Ortiz
hey /aosg/ I'm looking for ideas to paint these stormcasts I acquired. please post some sigmarines.
Ian Evans
I wonder if the 40k community would ever forgive GW if they did an "Age of the Emperor". Then I ask the same question but ad "and they make a full range of true scale marines that actually have the stats of how a marine should be in the fluff".... Interesting...
Brayden Gutierrez
It depends. If you know your ways of the brush, Id go with a white theme similar to the one in the pic. Other than that, Id actually stick with the GW original, following Duncan´s paint guide.
Josiah Garcia
Forgot pic.
Adam Johnson
I like the models, particularly the ironjawz. I don't like how restrictive they are to build but in terms of look i think they are fantastic. I always wanted an elite ork army for 40k and Nobz were just shit (other than bikers but i liked the 2 handed guys on foot). So in this game i can actually play that instead of gimping myself and losing every game.
Cooper Green
Whatever you do, don't make them full gold I think silver armour with a little golden ornamentation and red as shield, pauldron and loincloth color would look nice
Robert Johnson
I've painted some in the past but I'm really terrible at it. Getting some lessons today, so looking for something easy.
Ryder Peterson
I think we also can thank GW for finally making a game they freely can make rules to the models they make. Like literally make rules that are just as awesome as the model!
Then Duncan is the way to go. Just look, follow and learn, and you will have an awesome force in no time!
Cooper Murphy
I don't think they would, even though the game is in such a state right now alot of people just find it so off puting to even play a game. I wouldnt go back to 40k unless it was overhauled. I used to play in a local club and all 5 people just stopped playing and the club shut down. For whatever reason though the die hards don't like change even if the game is in a downward spiral (from my point of view anyway, maybe financially it is not).
I hated the addition of flyers and lord of war, to me they just didnt fit the scale of the game at all but i don't see them getting rid of that even if they do overhaul.
Nathan Nelson
Can you link where we can find the rest of the results? I'm curious to see the other lists.
Jaxson Edwards
Space Marines would be blessed to ever look like Stormcasts.
Hudson Baker
What matches did you play this week? I got in my 1st and 2nd games ever yesterday at my local club. Played against a mates Skaven and lost the 1st and won the 2nd match. Was really fun and once we learned the rules a bit very easy and had a good flow. The rolling for who goes 1st was really huge and I liked not having to look up a to hit or to wound chart every 5 seconds. Spiders are fun and loving the mortal wounds on 6s! oh and fuck Stormfiends those rats are mean as hell.
Connor Gutierrez
and the other match
Austin Bennett
Well, being a player from around 3ed launch, I actually find 40k fun. But thats just me and my local meta. We don't over do shit, we don't play to win, we use scenario play and all the little fun rules you can find that lifts the game (building rules and such for instance). And to me, the game is fun when you stop thinking in the terms of "my team", and embrace the AoS aspect of it. The fact that you, with a somewhat advanced rules system, can combine and mix and match the models that you like, through a detachment system is really fucking fun, and challenging sometimes. I, as opposed to many, like the larger units. I think this reason is two parts, its 1- a way for GW to express their brilliance in multi part plastic kits, and 2- a way for myself to relive my youthful fantasy of "oh wow, what if GW could release something like this in this concept art!", because now they actually can and do release many of those models!
I know I'm starting to sound like a fucking fanboy, but really, I just play the game because I find it fun, and that GW makes great models to support it. When you have a good community behind something, any game can great.
The reason I started AoS is that I feel its what GW wants to do for 40k, but cant because of rule lawyering cunts, and market value. Now they can freely make rules for the models, and it even used to be they didn't even have to worry about points.
Caleb Parker
I like Fliers myself but I feel they are too powerful
Adrian Collins
Great to see your army up and running! I have followed your progress during some of your WIP shots, and cheered you on. Looks like a blast to be honest!
Cooper Collins
>You can always just say "I wont play that, because its an unfair list next to mine". Or you can stop being a waac fag who won't even play if his precious army might lose.
Xavier Lee
They where.... like in, what was it? 4th- 5th ed when they hit the grid somewhat. When there where no AA guns what so ever. When there where no AA-objectives on the board. When the meta didn't allow for tactics to change.
This is all part of something called Perfect Imbalance, and its a crucial ingredients of a game like 40k. You have power-list A who wins everything, so you make counter-list B, which then becomes the new top dogs, then you ad a new element to the game, and ruins the now top dog power-list B, because-counter list C just came along.
By added content, you shift the balance of the game. And I admit, the game wasn't ready for fliers at fist. But now, with even added rules in Death from the skies, hell, flyers can have their own little mini-game going on if you wish for it (between the game turns)!
Nolan Ortiz
Thanks bro! all the lads at the club day and myself had a ball smashing out a couple of AOS games each. So much so I pulled the trigger on a Malignants army I have been drooling over. Going to do it up with as many spooks as possible and have Aqshy fire theme to them.
Asher Nelson
Those are some beautiful spiders.
Played two games today, my 3rd and 4th games. I got 2k Stormcast and 1k Skryre, so I let a guy who is starting AoS borrow 1k Stormcasts and I played my skaven (who will be my main army).
I took some pics but they look like shit and most things aren't painted, but we had fun. 1st game I lost since I mixed my stormvermin badly, but the second game I played more defensivly and won.
1 st game was 4 objectives (hold them once and they're yours until someone else touches them) and the second one was the gift from the heavens one.
Ian Evans
>Opponent brings a WAAC list thats hard as nails >Says in all honesty "you play a very unbalanced list, I don't feel like getting curb stomped" >STOP BEING A WAAC PLAYER THATS AFRAID TO LOOSE!!!!
Dude, are you always this retarded?
Isaiah Rogers
Got one in over on friday. 3rd game so far. 2v2 of a thousand points If anyone was in the thread last night It was the one where the khorne player thought you only needed to pay the base point cost, No accumulation for extra models.Me as destruction (Mixed ironjaws, some goblins for battleline and a unit of ogres) with a khorne bloodbound and khorne demons ally. Against a guy using dwarves but mostly with legacy warscrolls for some reason. 2 big units of slayers and didn't want to switch them out to use fyre slayer rules, and finally some stormcast, I remember he had the winged guy with the hawk, rolled a one for his one time only super shot. Was a good game, people enjoyed it, felt a bit cheap later though when i realized about the unit size accumulation cost.
Kayden Nelson
The skaven army I versed was pretty cool and I was a bit jelly for sure of all the cool crazy units. Tempted to find a cheap Isle of blood box. Yeah we had some guys not adding up points cost right as well at the club day. I think it will take a bit of exposure for everyone to fall into line with it.
Nicholas Stewart
Playing Sylvaneth is not waac. Like holy fuck dude he's just playing an army. Because you can't play the game properly does not invalidate his list.