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Evan Anderson
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Robert Reed
my friend had the daretti emblem on, and used a shrapnel blast in response of the trigger of the emblem to sacrifice a tapped wurmcoil engine token.
does he take the token back in play untapped, or when he put it in the GY it ceases to exist as a state based action and the emblem can't take it back?
Juan King
The token will go to the graveyard and trigger the Emblem. Before the trigger goes on the stack, the token will stop existing. Then the trigger is put on the stack, and it will eventually resolve and do nothing, because the token it's looking for no longer exists.
Carter Reed
Doesn't Daretti's emblem set up a delayed trigger, or no? Either way, the result is the same, the token won't come back.
Evan Gray
I cast Turn To Frog on my 0/20 Tree of Perdition for shenanigans. When Turn To Frog's effect ends, does Tree become 0/20 or 0/13?
Kevin Turner
If a creature has gift of immortality on it and both the creature and GOI are destroyed separately but at the same time does the effect still happen?
Nicholas Gray
0/20.
Turn To Frog doesn't replace Tree's change it just applies after it.
That change is irrelevant while Turn To Frog is active, but it's still there.
>destroyed separately but at the same time
>but at the same time
Gift of Immortality is able to "see" it's target die.
So it triggers. And the trigger does all the stuff it says it does.
David Walker
Actually I should clarify the shenanigans since they're probably relevant.
>Activate 0/20 Tree's ability
>Cast Turn To Frog on Tree
>TTF resolves
>1/1 Tree's ability resolves
>Tree becomes 1/16 (let's say)
What happens at EoT? My gut tells me 0/13, but my understanding of layers is lacking.
Grayson Gutierrez
Oops should've refreshed before I posted. Good to know. So in 's case, it'd be 0/16?
Anthony Stewart
>replace
Kind of an ambiguous word here, *supplant
They're all power/toughness changing effects*, so it's down to time stamps.
*well, Turn To Frog does other things too, but those don't matter for this discussion
Order is T->20, P/T->1/1, T->16
So it becomes a 1/16, then at eot the P/T->1/1 goes away and it becomes a 0/16