Great Powers in the 2060's

This

and we have to be committed to Brexit. I didn't want out, but Britain would be the laughing stock of the world if we went back on our word. I can see a rise lib Dems. Honestly, what I think is going to happen is that Britain will remain, just barley. Scotland will somehow be able to be a part of the EU and the UK. However, Britain will see political instability for the next couple years. Reason well Labour split, Lib Dems are still reeling from Nick Clegg, UKIP has been shafted by Farage and the conservatives could implode IMO.

This. If NF doesn't win and cut down on immigration, then France is demographically fucked. They are already 40% arab in most regions. Mohammad is the most common child name. They have already sufferes more terror attacks than any other country. They will fall apart in 20 years from muslim revolts unless there is a change.

Also NF isn't even fascist.

Also France will never be more powerful than Britain. They have less economic power and military.

Also Napoleon's heirs were all incompetent and their time has passed.

OP's homebrew is shit.

>and the conservatives could implode IMO
Unlikely now. They seemed to be in crisis at the moment of the referendum result but they got their shit together very quickly. The party is managed very skillfully. Even the announcements of resignation and appointments were timed to overshadow the Labour leadership conference. Remember all those journalists leaving Argclu's conference because Leadsom quit? Cameron, Gove and Osborne are basically in exile and they'll avoid rocking the boat because the stability of the party is more important for their legacy than getting their way.

UKIP has had its moment and they'll fade into irrelevance. Their voters will split between a more socialist Labour and the Conservatives. They won't go to the Lib Dems so long as the Lib Dem leader continues demanding a second referendum.

Lib Dems will see a rise in members and voters from butthurt Remainers but they're primarily Labour voters, so it'll reduce the chance of Labour being a strong opposition.

If Labour actually splits they're fucked. They'll lose seats all the way across the country simply through a division of their voting base, which will allow Conservatives to edge marginal seats. I don't think they'll split, I think they'll diminish and try and reinvent themselves.

SNP will remain solid, but the only influence they can realistically have is bloc voting on motions with an even split. I doubt they'll be offered the chance to vote on a special status for Scotland, most likely they'll be told to suck it up.

If there's a political upset it will come from Ireland.

>Mohammad is the most common child name
Not even in the top 10, unlike in Britain where it's n°1.

>They have already sufferes more terror attacks than any other country.
The only reason for that is because the french actually crack down on their muslims rather than letting them set up sharia zones and basically bending over for them (like the UK).

Muhammed is 14 in UK, Mohammed is 27.

Even combined, they don't beat Oliver, which is at the top.

>France is demographically fucked. They are already 40% arab in most regions

>"With an estimated total of 5 to 10 percent of the national population, France has the largest number of Muslims in Western Europe"

Do you even math bro?

>polshit
>math
kek

>Great Powers
>France
>Korea
Double kek.

Not without some really major plot devicium landing in their laps.

>Germany
>a nation that has the lowest birthrate in the world
>great power

What about Brazil?
Def a better option then France or Korea.

Seconding Brazil.

Though don't discount France. The French are uppity fellows, you never know when they'll decide it's been far too long and invade their neighbours again.

>birthrate
>mattering

I guess if they get a weird enough background, any nation is possible in another 30 years.

Brazil seems like the better option in my opinion. A little military expansion and they're dominating their own continent.

Multicultural countries aren't nationalist enough to commit to territorial wars. The majority of their citizens just don't care enough about the country to support it.

Not just the 'new citizens' but the natives too. They lose trust in their communities and faith in their country and become more materialistic. War doesn't suit them.

A possible reactionary fascist/nationalist state, might. But that seems a bit of ass pulling at that point. And going to alienate all of europe.

>regions
>national population

Not OP, but I guess you guys can't read and don't know much about history. A national percentage is not indicative of local percentages because Muslims cluster in certain areas, specifically large metropolitan areas and southern France. They can be - and are - 40% of the population in cities like Marseilles, and certainly in the suburban banlieus of cities like Paris, where local municipal power is de-centralized. Those areas could easily revolt and separate, ala Lebanon, Ingushetia or Kashmir.

OP, what are your intended goals with this future timeline? Are you trying to be "realistic" or to develop a fun (but unrealistic) scenario for RPG purposes? State your purpose.

Some comments:

>US: The big dog. Huge military, huge economy, nuclear arsenal

The Chinese economy is projected to be 2.5 times the size of the US economy by 2060 (from The Economist's GDP estimator tool). Their military will be commensurately bigger, as will their nuclear arsenal.

>China: No.1 on the East Side.
China will most likely be No. 1 globally, barring a major world war. China is already the world's largest exporter, largest lender and largest foreign investor.

>India: Doing better now that Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal is decommissioned
??? Why?

>France: The pride of Europe. Oversized military
The French economy and military are both about the same size as the UK's. The German economy is 1.5 times bigger, though Germany's military is pretty shit these days.

>Korea: The rising giant. Unified and nuclear armed coming out of the Second Korean War
The costs of reunification would cripple South Korea for 30 years. It's a much worse scenario than West and East Germany reunifying, as the latter two at least had somewhat similar levels of development and technology.

>Brazil
Shit military historically and mostly resource-based economy which was tied to the Chinese economic miracle. Not likely to change and the demographics are already turning against them. Poor education, low technology, poor human potential.

>Turkey
Mosty likely candidate for Great Power in 2060, especially if it avoids Kurdish splintering. Middle-income economy, very large military (larger than anything in Europe) well supplied with modern arms, 100m+ population, virulently nationalistic and most likely an Islamic republic with nukes in the future, probably allied with China.

>Iran
Regional great power. 100m+ population, nukes, fair level of tech, middle income economy, self-sufficient.

Are you memeing lad? The United Kingdom has a faster growing economy than any other European power, military strength is based on economic. We spend a great deal more than Europe, we have modernised our army, the Royal Navy and are in the process of modernising the Royal Air Force. We have always been the military backbone of Europe since WWII.

As for the UK being a satellite,

> Didn't back you in Vietnam
> Won't back you in anymore middle-east adventures
> Closing down US airbases on our soil

>and we have to be committed to Brexit. I didn't want out
This as well.

I really didn't think Brexit would make a huge difference one way or the other beyond the political and economic scramble it's created. I didn't want it because it was an other excuse for Sturgeon to swing her dick about and try to crash the Union with no survivors on the odd platform of the EU being a more important relationship and the rest of the UK.

And even then it's becuse every single one of them calls their son Muhammed or Mohammed with another name they actually use at family gatherings.

Source, my friend Mohammed.

>We have always been the military backbone of Europe since WWII.
Son, the military backbone of western Europe during the Cold War were the 12 tank divisions of West Germany and the US, backed by a further 6 tank divisions in France. The British were submarine hunters (hence the pocket carriers with VTOLs) and air reinforcement meant to slow down the advance of 50 Soviet tank divisions until American reinforcements crossed the Atlantic.

Another minor point to remember (which may reassure rightists too) is that name diversity is much lower among Arabs than it is among western Europeans. Europeans have thousands of first names; Arabs only a few dozen, of which Mohammed and its variants is by far #1. This concentration of names makes Mohammed shoot up in rankings even when the Muslim population is very small.

I said the backbone not the whole body, those divisions have been dismantled. We remain. German spending is through the floor.

France and Korea? America not declining?... Dah hell, the land of poo? Yeah, I can definitely see China coming to dominate but the others...

>birthrate
>mattering
Mate, you've got a assload of uneducated Moslems and Blacks who breed like rabbits compared to the declining white Europeans who keep the gears of Germany running. This, coupled with the hostility shown by the minority's youth, implies that Germany is indeed entering a future period of decline with nasty consequences for the native population. You can scream I'm a evil "islamaphobic", racist, cis white male unconsciously oppressing people through sheer mental power but as shown by the fall of Rome and the fate of the Cannanites, massive demographic shifts do indeed have consequences.

This.

>2.5 times the size of the US economy by 2060
China's growth is slowing it's closer to 3% to the US/s 1.7% last I heard. Projections for 2060 are about 1.5 times the US GDP, by 2060.

Still got a long way to catch up militarily. But they're supposed to get their first carrier around 2020.

>Lebanon
>Ingushetia
>Kashmir
>Paris is gonna be a muslim enclave and become these countries guise!

You know, I'm not even surprised you're this dumb.

You were talking about history, now you're switching the goal posts and talking about today.

>We have always been the military backbone of Europe since WWII.

Yes, today the UK has one of the largest militaries in Europe (which isn't saying much, Turkey and Korea could kick their ass). But during the Cold War it was a medium-size component and pretty small in the land army dept.

>Also France will never be more powerful than Britain. They have less economic power and military.
France passed above the UK for a while after Brexit. By the 2060s, it might just be ahead.

>China's growth is slowing it's closer to 3% to the US
China's growth was 6.9% in 2015. It hasn't been below 8% in years. Meanwhile the US was in recession in 2008-2009.
wsj.com/articles/china-economic-growth-slows-to-6-9-on-year-in-2015-1453169398

Projections are 2.5 times if accounting for Purchasing Power Parity.

>Still got a long way to catch up militarily.
Not really. Read the latest Pentagon report on Chinese military power, or the RAND comparative studies. They only lack high-performance jet engines and aircraft carriers. They have almost everything else. By 2060 they could be ahead.

>But they're supposed to get their first carrier around 2020.

They already have 1, it's called the Liaoning. And aircraft carriers aren't the stars they used to be. There is a line of thought that says aircraft carriers will be the battleships of the future (ie, antiquated and easily sunk), this time with missiles, deep learning AIs and massive sensor arrays.

I polled the local low-income apartments building and found out that Muslims make up to 90% of France's population in some places.
Really makes you think.

Ah what pure nonsense, I needed a good chuckle, thanks user.

Korea nor Turkey could beat the UK and to suggest otherwise is pretty stupid.

UK's always had a small army but to act as if they weren't and still aren't one of the best militaries in Europe is ludicrous

>Purchasing Power Parity.
Nobody uses that shit.
Although if you were to use it, with Chinese production they'd be the best bet.

>aircraft carriers will be the battleships of the future
I could see that. I think we're more likely to see massed UAVs.

A single drone's production and operating cost is less then a tenth of a fighter jet. At least for prolonged force projection.

>French Caliphate
>German Sultanate
Fixed that for you, my man.

What do you think it'd take to create a modern day Anti-Pope?

If it's a non-realistic 2060, I want a modern Crusader state.

>If it's a non-realistic 2060, I want a modern Crusader state.
Probably something along the lines of the Holy Brazilian Empire.

>thinly disguised /pol/bait thread
>still no mention of Israel

Israel.

Modern Crusader State? Well, white East Germany splitting off from a Moslem or Black African Germany where whites are treated like second class citizens (because they're Dhimmis in the latter, "dem beez slavery 'n sheeit" for the latter) if not outright slaves by the ruling Islamist regime.

Israel will be a modern day North Korea. Surrounded by hostile Islamist states who're now, thanks to the Caliphates in France and Germany, nuclear armed and only held back by a alliance with some other power touting nukes like Russia or China.

>Those areas could easily revolt and separate, ala Lebanon, Ingushetia or Kashmir.

The problem with that scenario is those areas are not self-sufficient, and they just declared war on the people managing their food, water, electricity and sewage. Half of them would die from starvation or disease within a month.

They don't care. They'll just get those 99 virgins + 1 goat in Heaven after they die, who cares about everyone else.

What happens in setting for the world to return to a "Great Powers" stage?

If there's anything like a world conflict I think it's going to be more Cold War era Eastern vs Western Blocs. China and Co. vs US and friends.

I never said they were too smart to try.

> Turkey
> Korea
> Beating the United Kingdom

Thanks user I needed a good raff.

Turkey IS the United Kingdom at the moment.

>>Great Powers in the 2060s.
>USA.
>China.
>India.
>Brazil.
Russia is doomed to fail, nothing can save them. They're just going to slowly slide into irrelevance once Putin dies.
A more centralized/united EU will never happen, but if say two of France, Germany and the UK get closer and abandon the EU as a whole and focus on just them, they might be another great power (I doubt the three at once could every agree on anything).
Japan can't be a great power, but it'll probably keep a strong economy.

People that don't know shit about demographics should just shut up in this kind of thread.

>China
Depends entirely on how, if at all, they're going to fix all their drinkable water running out by 2030. Also, you know how the Chinese are "taking over Africa"? Some speculate it's Chinese fatcats investing their money outside of China, because they themselves don't trust their own economy. Also, the biggest potential crisis: their switch from being the sweatshop of the world to a modern nation state. This won't happen, not with commies in charge at least. Either the middle class or the communist party has to budge, and whichever it is it won't be pretty.

>India
>Brazil
Kek, no. I don't trust their abilities to become anything other than sweatshops. What do they have other than numbers? Nothing, really. Brazil's economy went to shit rather recently despite incredibly optimistic predictions. Also, call me /pol/ if you want but recently Afro-Brazillians became the majority in Brazil for the first time, with no signs of this trend reversing. This means that any chances of a knowledge-based modern economy are washed down the drain.

I agree with your predictions on Russia and the EU. I doubt France and Germany will remain closely knit without the EU though, a lot of Frenchies are already pretty pissed about playing second fiddle to Germany (which is part of why FN is so popular: they're all about taking back France. Taking it back from immigrants at the bottom, and from the Germano-Belgian EU elite at the top).

In conclusion, while the political landscape may change, I believe America will remain the unquestionable top dog for the forseeable future.

I really hope France wakes up some day and starts removing the filth. Such radically different cultures simply cannot live together. We've already seen the clusterfuck of the Balkans, which is only slightly stable today because of foreign pressure. We already see this in France, with synagogues and other "vulnerable" targets literally being guarded by the military, like it's a fucking warzone.

The USA'd be on top, but it'd be on top with a couple others right behind, instead of being on top and way ahead of everyone.

not after brexit

US: Alright, I can see the US staying top dog for a few more years. Either the Dems dominate or Trump made America great again at a cost. Either way, America's downward slide continues, not helped by Beaner secessionists wanting to rejoin Mexico.

China: China will remain the sweatshop empire. Unless drastic changes happen to it's government. It's government has adopted unpleasant though necessary population controls.

India: like China, though the land of Poo will become a massive overpopulated hell hole not helped by the aftershocks of climate change. It's government will also not be as effective in reacting to the rising sea levels and the massive population crisis than China which possesses more authoritarian controls. India still remains the land of poo.

France: the Islamic Caliphate of Fransia. White people have been pushed out into the countryside while the cities have degenerated into massive Moslem ghettos where the dimwitted and uneducated population is only kept under control by intentional anti-intellectualism and the legalization of slavery where the peasants can work their mad off on their property. White women in particular, are all the rage among Moslem and Black men. Shariah law, needless to say, has been instated.

Russia: yeah, Russia's screwed. Don't get wrong. I'm rooting for them, I hope Putin will pull out a Trumpcard on King Nig and win, but... Yeah. I can see Russia forming a close bond to the homogeneous white eastern Europe though.

Korea: Korea a super power? Nah. A strong regional power maybe, but nothing much beyond that.

Germany: save as France. Though east Germany probably breaks off and forms a general anti-Kebab coalition with the besieged nations of eastern Europe.

>Those predictions about US, France and Germany
It'd almost make you forget that America already has four minority white states, and white Americans are already a minority among those younger than 5 years old. But yeah, America will be perfectly fine while Europe becomes a literal dystopia.

>All this /pol/ shit garbage.

Gimme twenty minutes and I'll be back with something resembling plausibility.

>>All this shit I don't agree with.
>
>Gimme twenty minutes and I'll be back with more /pol/ shit garbage.

Why can't you just stay on your own board /pol/?

Ah. So the southwest becomes Beaner territory while the midwest and the more rural states become the last remnants of white america. The east coast and the old south meanwhile, degenerate into tribal Africa, the dream of Obongo and the prowling ground of the nig. Canada-thanks to autistic Trudeau-becomes a Islamic caliphate similar to the post-European slaver empires over the Atlantic.

Actually JP Morgan is revising our growth forecasts upwards, article in the Independent.

OK first off the 'Eurabia' fedora motherfuckers such as and can fuck right the hell off, because their statistics are terrible, and they're pure cancer. Ignore their bullshit. Also, predicting 40+ years into the future is pretty fucking stupid. Let's dial this down to twenty because that's probably around when interesting shit will go down.

>US

It basically is either going to make it or break it as a great power this election. A Trump election would likely shatter the NATO alliance structure and economic deals that keep the US able to prevent China and Russia from muscling in on our turf, not to mention the economic disaster his policies would likely cause, but the point is that he'll be out on his ass after one term no matter what, and the chances of him actually getting elected is a suckers bet right now. This isn't to say that Hillary is some unicorn riding wizard that will fix all wrongs, but at the very least she'll keep the structure intact long enough for SOMEONE to do the renovation work needed.

At this point though, a multipolar world is inevitable. The question is who is the top of the great powers. And more likely than not, it'll stay the USA. A large population, solid economic basis that produces more goods than anyone else, alongside a history of technological prowess puts them firmly in the top dog seat, but it won't be entirely smooth sailing.

>China
China loses out on most populous region of the globe to the Indian Subcontinent in a few decades. However, the real threat for the Chinese isn't external - it's internal. A stagnant economy, repressive political system, and military build up have left it in a state similar to the Soviet Union of the early 1980's, except this time with no puppet states to count on aside from the starving and crazy North Koreans.

>complains about /pol/ tier bullshit
>posts tumblr tier bullshit
God this thread. There's a reason I ignore every Veeky Forums SF setting's backstory.

/pol/ and /tumblr/ are literally the left and right wing visions. It's best to take both and look at where they overlap to find the middle ground where the most likely outcome lies.

If an isolationist moment in the US leads to the collapse of NATO, a Pacific pivot and maintaining the recent American buildup in Vietnam, Singapore, and the Phillipines could still occur.

Meanwhile who knows who would profit in a Europe where NATO, the EU, and Russia are all declining. Free trade and peace between a "Europe of Nations", or conflict?

>China cont.

This isn't helped with the effects of overfishing in the SCS and a policy of containment starting to kick in. They're surrounded by powers that have no reason to cooperate with them, and the Middle Kingdom really is stuck in the middle. Vietnam's sliding into the US sphere of influence, the re-militarization of Japan, and South Korean refusal to listen to them until they withdraw their support for the North puts them in a tricky situation. And then there's the headaches of Xianjing and civil unrest caused by economic difficulties alongside a massive non-working population. They're really at a tipping point all thing's considered. And the scales are tipping towards war to force the world to recognize them as a true great power.

>Russia

If anything, Russia is actually poised for a comeback if it can weather the storm the next couple of years are going to bring to the table. A transition into a post-Putin political system might be tricky, but I'm confident they can manage it. While isolated from the rest of Europe, they have an opportunity to really expand influence into the caucus regions, what with Turkey being in a state of civil war between the Kemalists and Edrogan's mobs. However, the failed intervention in Syria cost them a lot in terms of potentially finding another ally in the middle east.

With Assad having been ousted, the civil war entered a second phase, one between the hardline Islamists and the more moderate rebels, and neither were going to ask for Russian help considering the airstrkes and support to the deposed regime. And with the Islamists coming out on top, things are going to get pretty interesting in the Middle East, especially with an independent Kurdistan holding a good chunk of former Syrian territory...

All in all though, Russia doesn't want to directly screw with eastern europe. It's just not worth it, especially when what they'd gain is just the Baltic States at best.

For a twist on this you could have two separate Cold Wars: US vs Entente (nationalist regimes in Europe and Russia) with India and China not caring, and China v India without disrupting Western access to Pacific Rim markets.

>more moderate rebels
Citation needed. Moderate Moslems are clearly mythical creatures existing the realm of magical thinking alongside Unicorns and Big Foot. So far, all we've seen in Syria are ISIS or Islamist militias who clearly sympathize with or are silent on the Islamic State (and as we all know, silence implies consent). And the only reason why the intervention failed was due to Obongo protecting his Moslem bruthaz by fucking threatening to start WWIII.

The Syrian Civil War would've been over in months if Obongo didn't get asshurt and force the only superpower who gave a fuck to withdraw.

In that case I'd look at a strong France and surprisingly enough, Poland. Germany would be an economic power still, but there's no doubt that those two hold the military muscle there.

>Eurofaggotry

With NATO pretty much looking on at the Turkish situation with no real desire to get involved in that clusterfuck, Greece sees a chance to potentially get back Istanbul. However thankfully for everyone who hates the clusterfuck of the Byzantines, Greece is entirely irrelevant.

The United Kingdom gets hit hard by the aftershocks of Brexit. Economically hamstrung and unable to negotiate to keep their privileges they got while in the EU, they grudgingly rejoin it within two decades sans exemptions. France and Germany's supposed 'Eurabia' problem pretty much becomes a non-issue as soon as the second generation starts getting out there, and as refugees either get deported back to the 'peaceful' Islamic Republic of Syria or go back willingly, thinking everything has settled down.

Ironically enough, the nation in Europe that experienced the biggest swing in fortunes? Poland! An expansion of their Baltic fleet, military capabilities, and EU investment pretty much lead to a Polish-Franco-German powerbloc in the EU, with poor old Belgium left in the cold alongside the UK. All in all though, Europe remains pretty calm despite the occasional terrorist attack.

Here's your (You)

Update: aha! Nothing has changed. Stick to writing RPG settings. Tumblr and /pol/ bullshit isn't your forte Veeky Forums.

>Middle East

The clusterfuck continues. Turkey ends up in a civil war, with the Kemalists eventually pulling out a win and executing Edrogan after a civil war. The entire country goes pretty hyper secular, looking at the newly formed Islamic Republic of Syria with concern, and hostility. There isn't a Kurdish problem for them at all, after most of them seeing the potential for genocide during the civil war taking the opportunity to hop the border into the newly established Kurdistan.

Kurdistan is the really really new nation on the Middle Eastern stage, and it probably wouldn't exist at all if it wasn't for the firm support of the US for them, and surprisingly enough, Israel. Formed from Northern Iraq, and a large amount of North Eastern Syria, Kurdistan's independence may be short lived. The Iraqi rump state towards Kuwait is firmly under Iranian control by this point, and no matter how fierce the Kurd's might be the Iranians heavily outnumber them. Then there's the Syrians to worry about to the west, and potentially the Turks to the north.

>India

Imagine now, but with more people and even shittier. They're on the road for civil war and/or getting gangbanged by China and Pakistan, with nobody else giving a shit about what happens to the Curries.

>Japan

Remilitarization helps a bit, but they'll never be a major great power ever again, and the birthrate issue causes an economic slowdown before thing's stabilize again. All in all though, they don't have it too bad, what with VR Waifus starting to take off.

And that's about all I can think of that'd really matter.

Poland is supposedly Technically Capable of nuclear weapons (able to produce them within 1-2 years) according to the Wikipedia article listing nations by military equipment level (they cited this article but you can only get the citation file and not read the full report: dx.doi.org/10.1080/04597222.2015.996334 )

Regardless of any other predictions, it's pretty obvious the EU will eventually collapse. Social democratic mass-immigration states vs former Soviet-bloc (especially V4) right-wing authoritarian states does not tend to make a great lasting alliance. It's a bit of a wonder the UK and France got along for as long as they did, especially in light of de Gaulle's Cold Way third pillar shit.

The main question is just whether Russia or the US keeps it as a virtual vassal state, and equally importantly: what happens to Turkey?

Tumblr-tards love to bash /pol/, while being too stupid to actually go there for discussion of politics.

Political discussion belongs in /pol/, not Veeky Forums.

>/pol/
>discuss politics

Actually go there and see for yourself. Incessantly demanding that people you disagree with kill themselves isn't discussion, it's an echo chamber of trolls that each think that they're a genius.

>this basically

And yet you're such a genius you read the entire post without even comprehending the message.

The fact that they told you to kill yourself doesn't change the fact that it's the Veeky Forums political board.

Take the advice desu, you seem too dumb to live.

/pol/ and Tumblr: the Hattfields and Mcoys of the internet.

Nice discussion, man. Way to prove a point.

>Still not getting the message that there are designated places for each type of discussion
Hurry up with that suicide already.

Such a great way to discuss any sort of topic anywhere, user.

>UK
>the military backbone of Europe since WWII

Perhaps out of the nations actually in Europe, but the US is the backbone of NATO.

The reasons the nations of Europe have cut their militaries is because they're relying on the US to to provide the bulk of NATO forces if Russia ever invades.

>France
>Great power

We 2300ad now
Where all da Aconits at?

>People on the internet are mean
Abloo bloo bloo

how would that be possible? numb nuts.

>2060s
Nobody because President Trump will cause a nuclear holocaust in 2018.

That's like saying
>Between Hitler on one side and Franklin Delano Roosevelt on the other
>You should pick the middle ground of Chiang Kai-shek.

You got that wrong though. It's closer to
>Between Hitler on one side and Stalin on the other

China's going to implode into Africa 2: Afrcia Harder. Their growth is unsustainable and their internal political situation is a three legged stool with one leg missing.

Hitler and Stalin aren't on opposite sides of the political spectrum. They're both tyrannical dictators.

One of the Left and the other of the Right.

>implying FDR wasn't a tyrannical dictator

What kind of a fucking strawman is this? "Everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler."

Stalin thankfully, still has a bad reputation (and it should fucking stay that way). Otherwise he'd be overwhelmingly the Tumblr pick, don't you deny it.

>>/pol/