/btg/ - Battletech General

Anyone ordered a summoner from warhansa? It's fucking massive. Its LRM tubes are as high as the atlas's shoulder.

I got an insane kangaroo timber wolf, and it looks like a light mech next to these 2. Even the insane kangaroo stalker is smaller than the summoner, but I have a feeling the summoner is abnormally big

Warhansa's sculpt is near perfect though, don't even have bubbles. Would recommend, 10/10

So I have a question for /btg/ - a while ago I picked up some cheap BT stuff that a friend's friend had lying around, fairly oldschool. Got boxes for Battletech, Battletech Reinforcements (1 + 2) Battleforce and Battlespace. I also have the old plastic minis that came with (I think?) one or more of these boxes (dark grey plastic likeebay.com/itm/Battletech-3rd-Edition-PLASTIC-Miniature-Unseen-Marauder-Robotech-Officer-Battle-/401175252184). I never really wondered until now, but how rare/expensive are these? Is this guy asking the moon, or am I sitting on something that sweet?

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Didn't put a space between like and the link, because I'm incredibly good at typing.

ebay.com/itm/Battletech-3rd-Edition-PLASTIC-Miniature-Unseen-Marauder-Robotech-Officer-Battle-/401175252184

Well, the Thor was originally stated to be notably big, so I guess you could say it's fluff accurate?

Do you think we'll ever get any new map sheets? I don't mean thicker versions of old paper sheets, but new mapsheets.

It'd be nice to get some with art-styles that match (like the coast ones - some ground, or water maps to make more cohesive singular maps).

Harmony Gold did nothing wrong.

are there rats for the minifactions from mwda anywhere? even unofficial ones that don't suck would be handy.

Era Digest: Dark Age has them.

oh, a pdf-only release, no wonder. thanks, user.

You can count the people who give a fuck about the splinter factions on one hand, with fingers left over. Bannson a shit.

i usually play opfor so donald trump but with mechs can make for a funny night.

True. IWM did more damage to the franchise, combined with terrible writing, terrible fluff, and terrible management of the franchise itself.

The only saving grace of battletech is mechwarrior 2, and now, Alex. Half of us here are ex-MW2 players, and the other half are here because Alex's designs in MWO looks great. Franchise would have died long ago if not for these 2.

Gr8 b8 m8!

battlebump with a question: favorite WoB or ComGuard division?

Cool toys...no robotics.

What book has the earliest WoB RAT?

As a Distinct entity? ER 3062. But they still use the ComStar RATs.

Not a RAT per se but Fall of Terra has a list of WoB mechs in use.

Those are the 3e boxed set plastics. They're moderately valuable - $60-100 for a full set depending on gullibility. The specific value of the Warhammer, Archer, and Rifleman tanked when Robotech Tactics came out. The Marauder, however, is one of your only affordable options so it tends to be a little more expensive. Despite the massive issues with the model. Individual 'Mechs go for ~$4-10.

bloop bloop, motherfucker.

>3e boxed set plastics
>Marauder
>massive issues with the model

Like how it has a bad tendency to split down the middle when you're not looking? That's what mine always does!

For maximum fluff compliance, it should split down the left torso.

>Harmony Gold did nothing wrong.

I know this is a threadly reminder, but still...
Fuckers stole Macross license and because of absolutely shitty US-Japan relations (fuck Disney, fuck whichever president approved those laws, fuck US law), the whole world was denied the glory that is Macross for more than 30 fucking years.

Why is that company not bankrupt yet, anyway?

>Why is that company not bankrupt yet, anyway?

Because, despite my rugged good looks, genius level intellect, and limitless funds I have yet to organize a hostile take over of their company, raid their HQ for their secret documents, or subvert their CEO via my sexual wiles.

But don't worry. I'll get around to it at some point.

>Why is that company not bankrupt yet, anyway?
Robotech is a side gig. They're primarily a Californian real estate company.

>hostile takeover

Remember to do it with style when you do.

>They're primarily a Californian real estate company.

Considering the way they continually fucked over law, I shudder to think how the hell these people handle real estate.

Anyway, speaking of making the robot dreams come true, could any iconic Battletech designs be built in reality as tourist attractions?

>could any iconic Battletech designs be built in reality as tourist attractions?

Only in a case where it happens to be an Unseen model that the public recognizes from some media other than Battletech, such as a Valkyrie from Macross. Otherwise, I don't think anybody would visit.

I could see a Timber Wolf or an Atlas. Both are recognisable and hell, a skull-faced giant robot would be just awesome.

>I could see a Timber Wolf

I mean as in, actually make it. Mad Cat couldn't possibly stand up IIRC.
Heck, the Messiah I posted earlier was supposed to have legs as well but the physics didn't play well and the engineering university that built it is still figuring it out.

Then again, technology is awesome.
The first true-scale Gundam was only lying on its back because the engineers said it could ever stand... and look where the White Devil is now.
Heck, they want to make it walk.

Ditto for >pic related. Atlas' daddy was told to be impossible to make from actual metal, so this one metalworker went and said "No, you're wrong".
And here it is.

Heck, there's even a 1:1 replica of Tetsujin-28 in some city.

>could any iconic Battletech designs be built in reality as tourist attractions?

OK, we need a clarification here, user... does the "tourist attraction" have to be *successful?*

>does the "tourist attraction" have to be *successful?*

As long as any fan of giant robots cums in his pants looking at it, it's good.
Like really, all of the mentioned ones work that way, it's simply that Japan has a lot of giant robot fans.

Though ideally yes. Most of these exhibitions are hits while the Mazinger in Spain and Zaku in some random Turkish city wouldn't really warrant me visiting them as attractions... kinda a thing of scale, I guess. As hard as a real-scale Evangelion could be to make in all its 80 meter glory, those human-sized ones all over Japan do nothing for me.

>As hard as a real-scale Evangelion could be to make in all its 80 meter glory, those human-sized ones all over Japan do nothing for me.

You're fueling up at the wrong gas station, user.

>Eureka 7 never got popular in Japan because they thought it would be a simple NGE rip-off.
Don't get me wrong, NGE is a fun show but... all these people could have definitely chosen something better to fawn over.

Funnily enough, NGE is pretty well on-topic here considering its reimagining in the movies is pretty much the same deal Battletech is going through right now, don't you think?

Loved Eureka 7. How was the spin off? The premise seemed really odd, and I wasn't sure how to feel about it.

>Funnily enough, NGE is pretty well on-topic here considering its reimagining in the movies is pretty much the same deal Battletech is going through right now, don't you think?

How so? I don't think NGE stole their original designs at gunpoint and robbed the creators of the money from them the way Battletech did.

>How was the spin off?

I've only ever watched two and a half episode.
The starting two episodes and I assume a number of them afterwards were okay, but most people say the story goes bonkers in the end.
So I took a peak into one of the later episodes and... they weren't kidding.

I decided to drop it entirely lest I got the image of Eureka 7 ruined. I still occasionally listen to its soundtrack, though.

are you even trying anymore?

>I don't think NGE stole their original designs at gunpoint and robbed the creators of the money from them the way Battletech did.

Battletech is not all that innocent but still. Evangleion stole a great deal of shit from all over the place.
Evangelions are armoured God Warriors of Nausicaa, Ramiel is literally a recolored enemy from Future Polic Urashiman, Shinji is designed as R63 version of Nadia,...
But that's not even tangentially related to Veeky Forums or Battletech, user.

Its not, at all. It just has some superficial similarities to eva, so most of the japanese audience either wrote it off as a generic NGE clone and didnt watch it, or did watch it and were disappointed when it wasnt what they were expecting. The show was saw wild popularity in foreign markets however.

Really the show has just about nothing to do with NGE, and a lot to do with Escaflowne. Really, Studio Bones just has the one story that they keep retelling with a different spin.

Over all the series was 9/10, classic of the mecha genre. Would have been 10/10 if it didnt start so slow and the MC was less of a brat early on.

i think mecha anime is at least tangentially related to Battletech, and Evangelion a fan RPG.

No user, not the question I was asking. I've watched Eureka 7, and enjoyed it. I was asking about the spin off/sequel series Eureka: AO.

This user understood.

>the MC was less of a brat early on.
I literally cannot think of an anime that does not include a bratty MC and involves mecha. Maybe IBO, but is an emotionless robot child soldier really what we as an audience want to see?

Eva a shit. Take it to /m/ or the AdEva threads.

What are you talking about, user, Eureka 7 never had a spin off. Thats crazy, annon. You're crazy

Good thing they never made an eighth season of Scrubs either then!

He was asking about AO, user.
Also, Escaflowne is not Bones' work.

I actually liked IBO a lot, despite its flaws. Though I'll agree, Mika, was so fucking bland that he felt like a side character being pushed around by the plot. Also could have stood for less Kudelia-centric screen time, god she was lame

Ah, your right, Escaflowne was Sunrise. Still though, very clear inspiration was drawn from it by Eureka 7. I'm not saying its a ripoff, but if you watch the 2 shows side by side you'll see what im talking about

>I literally cannot think of an anime that does not include a bratty MC and involves mecha.

Do you simply mean brats as underage or annoying ones?
Because both have a crap-load, even if the genre does have a tendency to use people in their late teens a whole lot.
The whole "Japanese only put kids into mecha" is bullshit on the whole.

Just take MSG:Thunderbolt as an easy recent example.

Blue Gender defied that stereotype pretty well, but was an otherwise terrible and depressing show that wasted a good premise and more realistic mecha (in some regards, the open cockpits were pretty fucked up)

Valvrave's MC was pretty alpha as far as mayan pictograph MCs go, even if the show was shit.

>Do you simply mean brats as underage or annoying ones?
Either. I'm tired of kids and people who need to be shot because they're annoying as fuck leading the cast of a show. It's probably my bitter old age.

>Just take MSG:Thunderbolt as an easy recent example.
I liked that one, but the cripple brigade were annoying at times.

Never seen it. Teenager MC or no?

Yup, he's also a genetically engineered mystical cyborg space vampire?

>Either.

Well then: Macross Plus, G Gundam, Gun x Sword, Five Star Stories, MSG 08th MS Team, Patlabor, Dai Guard,...

>Either. I'm tired of kids and people who need to be shot because they're annoying as fuck leading the cast of a show. It's probably my bitter old age.
It's really funny that you say that, because last week I started up a Robotech RPG campaign, and despite all three component series being kind of standard-bearers for what you're describing, not one player showed up with a teenager character. In fact, they to a man they made grizzled 25-40 year old veterans, which is especially great considering that half of them were recruited from the university anime club, and would therefore presumably be inclined to that sort of thing

I don't think ANYONE outside of Japan, and likely few in Japan like the kid pilot thing, but it's clearly the typical case of studios ultra pandering to "you viewer, you could be the mech pilot and get the princess".
Probably helps with lazy drama too, being easier to have upset and erratic kids than to write real drama between mature adults.

>get home from work
>2am
>try to set up an AtB campaign
>using the pastebin
>still can't get the master unit list site to work
>read through some TROs and pick some stuff out
>buy some replacement ammo and armor
>thinking about buying spare parts
>it's 6am again
fug.

I know that feel. My oldest AtB saves from the Atleast Itsnot campaign are almost 2 years old at this point.

Besides, everyone knows Best Dude in Robotech is this one.

>I don't think ANYONE outside of Japan, and likely few in Japan like the kid pilot thing

As I said, though. The kids are much less numerous than most people would have you believe, it's just most people never watch much and only know about Gundam and a few others.
It's a whole genre, of course if you pick out the toy-selling shows, you're going to end with a lot more juvenile protagonists.

>Fokker
>good

He wasn't all that good and I know what I'm talking about, having watched SDF:Macross just a week back.
Ozma blows him out of the water... and lives to taste the god damn pineapple salad.

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Are there any guides/tutorials for MekHQ i get the basics, but I want to know what rules are optimal, and which advanced rules are intresting. Also can I save during battles in MekHQ some battles are long as hell and i can't complete them in one sitting.

Rules point the first: for fuck's sake, turn the maintenance rolls to one roll per 30 days, or switch it off altogether. If you don't switch it off, assign only veteran or elite 'Mechs to take care of your giant robots. Otherwise, there is a 90% you'll end up with full-fledged mechacaust before you even arrive at your first contract.

Rules point the second: turn off the visibility conditions, unless you like hunting down enemies with searchlight-equipped 'Mechs and having to approach within belly gun range to actually get a hit in.

>veteran or elite 'Mechs

And by 'Mechs I of course mean Techs. I really ought to measure twice and cut once whilst under pain killers.

Would /btg/ watch an anime about Operation Odysseus, the 3060s + birth of the WoB Protectorate, and the Jihad from the PoV of John Christopher?

Do Lyrans like Atlases?

considering the history of bt licensed fiction, absolutely not

Faithful manga and light novel adaptations are all the rage these days, user.
As long as the underlying material is solid, they wouldn't really have much to fuck up.

Will Blakes light guide us to salvation?

Give praise to Blake!

Nah, I'm good on salvation, thanks.

But if you act now you get a discount on all data transmissions over three terabytes for the next three months.

Excellent! Then you're a candidate for our "Blake's Own" AMW program!

Figured I would start here with questions after having done the basic research. Ok, scenario as follows:

Year 2957. Capellan Confederation is putting together a planetary assault on the Federated Suns world of Ashkum in the Valexa PDZ of the Capellan March. Only stated defenses I can see are the Valexa March Militia which is supposed to cover all ~19 worlds of the PDZ. Standard March Militias at this time have 1 battlemech regiment, 2 armor regiments, 5 infantry regiments, a support artillery company and assorted unspecified size aerospace assets.

There are also 3 other RCTs, an independent regiment, 2 training cadres, and one mercenary regiment, in the PDZ; but none headquartered on Ashkum.

What forces would you place on site, to recieve the invasion? I know others would react to Ashkum once word got to command on Valexa, but that is a separate issue.

Nothing against other factions/stories, but I feel this would be one of the most interesting paths to take.

A lance of the CMM, a tank company, maybe one of the hundreds of unlisted lance-to-company sized merc units, as much as a battalion of local rifle military, maybe a lance or two of conventional fighters

>Boiled Dungeness Crab with Fennel

>Mince enough of the most tender fennel fronds to make 2 tablespoons, and mince enough of the bulb to make 1/4 cup; set both aside for the Fennel-Lemon Tartar Sauce.

>Coarsely chop the remaining fronds, stalks, and bulb, and place in a large (at least 8-quart) pot.

>Add lemon slices, 1/4 cup salt, and enough cold water to come within 3 inches of the top of the pot. Bring to a boil over high heat.

>While water is heating, set crabs on a rimmed baking sheet or tray, and put them in the freezer. (This dulls their senses to make handling them easier. The crab should be well chilled but not frozen; don't leave them in the freezer more than 30 minutes.) When water has come to a rolling boil, grab each crab securely at the back of its shell, and gently but swiftly drop it headfirst into the boiling water.

>Cover pot, and return water to a boil, reducing heat to medium if necessary to prevent water from boiling over. Cook crabs 18 to 20 minutes. Carefully drain. Clean crabs, and serve hot or chilled with Fennel-Lemon Tartar Sauce, Bloody Mary Cocktail Sauce, and Ginger Butter.

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From what I gathered from my experience in Japan, majority of the memorable years happen during high school. College and so forth are less exciting.

Depends on what the CCAF sends. By this pointing they're nearing their high water mark in the Succession Wars.

After their assault on Aosia in 2987 they wouldn't launch a large scale attack until operation Guerrero in 3057.
The Big Mac's 3022 raiding campaign and Operation Intruders Communion in 3029 are the exceptions, but both were desperation moves that required the use of all available jumpships, effectively stranding the CCAF in place.

Your pic is a MekTek mech

sarna.net/wiki/Black_Heart_(MekTek)

So I was playing tonight and, for some reason it was the funniest thing to me.
My UAC10 hunchie, fired at a Vulcan ripped off both arms.
Picturing that really brought joy to me.

Building a WoB force. I'm familiar with their 'Mechs but what kind of aerospace, battle armor and vehicle options do they have?

So I painted up one of the new Orcas, in the "Clicky-Tech" version of Clan Jade Falcon.

Why bother? Just paint up some nuclear detonations and falling asteroids, that should cover your canon WoB strategies pretty well.
>You monster.

For BA at least, look to a lot of the FWL stuff like the Achileus, Longinus, and Phalanx, the Purifier and the Demon series were their toys, with Nighthawks and Tornados on the PA(L) side.

I approve of the angry shaking fist. Very Falcon appropriate. "You freeborn surats, either declare a trial of possession for my lawn or get off of it!'

Always a pleasure, crabpasta user.

On a related note, I just made this, and couldn't think of a name till I popped back into the thread. So, has anyone else ever made a Crab-family 'Mech? I made a Heavy, but we still need a Light, since we have a Medium and an Assault already. Also maybe a BA? I think some time ago an user made a Fiddler Crab that was 35 tons. Though I feel like my design is a bit sacrilegious in that it has no lower arm/hand actuators, even if in my head it has pincer-like retractable covers over the arm lasers to protect the optics. I guess I could have it take the armor hit and go to LFFA to get the actuators back. Or, switch to an LFE (which I didn't want to do to keep costs down).

Hmm, I think a Spider Crab might be cool. That is a mech made of bits of two crabs and two Spiders.