Which aspects of the Norse mythology are often neglected?

Norse folk hated their gods.

Valhalla isn't heaven. It's a recruiting program for a suicide mission.

That they were all white

Zeus fucked women while disguised as animals.

Loki fucked animals while disguised as women.

I dunno, I kinda think Loki wins this one.

Yeah but someone has to do it, or when ragnorok comes we won't have a chance. Besides, don't they get to drink and fuck around until ragnorok anyhow?

>Loki gets reamed by Zeus
>Odin walks in
THIS SITCOM WRITES ITSELF!
Make the asshole neighbor who never shows up muhammed.

The sense of all is doomed, but we must fight on none the less,

And Jesus can be the retardedly polite mailman or some shit

He is the X-man, mailman, gasman, electrician, plumber, milkman, policeman, fireman.

This is never addressed.

>Zeus
>fucks women all day
>fucks his sisters but whatever
>Loki
>lets a horse fuck him
>gives birth

>Inangard and Utangard
I have no idea what this even is and google didn't help either.

Help?

I prefer the not Christianized version. The Norse didn't believe that worthiness or unworthiness would determine where you would go. You die you go to Helheim where you'd live normally until what makes you you is reincarnated into your great grandson while the rest of you becomes an elf. Unless you where unlucky and caught the Valkyries attention. They where called choosers of the slain for a reason.

Where do you get this from?

Innangard and Utangard are the Norse version of Order and Chaos. Innangard means within the enclosure and represents order. Utangard means beyond the enclosure and represents chaos. Heres a link to where I first found out about them. norse-mythology.org/concepts/innangard-and-utangard/

Very cool site. Guess I have some reading to do

>Innangard means within the enclosure and represents order. Utangard means beyond the enclosure and represents chaos.
So, Indo-European dragon slaying myth?

Apart from the introduction and epilogue to Snorri's Edda we're not really sure if it's accurate or not. It's possible that all of it is accurate and that the introduction and epilogue was written as an excuse to the church. It's also possible that he rewrote large parts of it. We tend to think of it as more or less accurate, however.

Heimdall was actually called the White God because he was a sun deity. Besides, it's not like Marvel's Thor ever claimed to be an accurate representation of Norse mythology, and I think Idris did a good job portraying Heimdall as an ever watchful warrior and protector of order.

That they were all actually shit at fighting.

I was more pissy that they completely ignored the "Heimdall is Sif's brother" possible plot point.

That's the opposite of mythology.

Only half the worthy slain went to Valhalla.

Odin cut a deal with Freya that the other half ended up at her hall Folkvangr. Since Folkvangr was ruled by a Goddess of War, Magic and Sex you'd think that it would be a popular destination but neo-pagan types seem pretty silent about the prospect of going to an afterlife run by a girl.

Need that juice for mana

>Since Folkvangr was ruled by a Goddess of War, Magic and Sex
Also fertility and the most beautiful in all the realms, who's pretty open to casual sex.

Also whores herself out to dwarves for gold, though, so there's that.

That time Loki tried to cheer up the daughter of a guy he killed by tying his balls to a goat and playing tug of war with it.

[Shaizou] Odin wa zeus no seimun no wakashizaku (Odin and Zeus' semen adventure) [Yaoi][Eng][Censored]

>You love norse mythology
>You don't like norse/northern european names and prefer eastern european.

What can you do?

Gold doesn't grow on tress, man, even if you have to do some wood working to get it.

That Thor was a giant racist and would fly into a fit of rage at even the sight of a giant, even if he was a guest in the gods' halls, and interrupted Baldr's funeral to push a dwarf into the fire.

Fantastic.

I get the feeling that loki is the biggest bro in norse myth and they just shit on him cause they're jealous of how laid back he is

Use Eastern European inspired names in a Northern European inspired setting?

Kievan Rus.

The simplest solution is often the correct one

Gay sex gives you super powers.

It's quite possible that there, at least originally, were two different Lokis in Norse myth. Loki that lived in Valhalla, and Utgarda-Loki who appears by that name in only one saga and tricks Thor, Loki and two children to participate in rigged contests such as wrestling with old age, out eating fire, and lifting the Midgard serpent out of the sea.

It may simply be that these two characters became mixed up with each other.

two burly bearded men having gay sex for 50 pages.

Loki and Evil Twin Loki with a goatee.

Eastern mythology is basically just norse mythology -- what tiny little we know, at any rate.

I remember that story. But the one I read had loki and thor being tricked by some lord of giants type of guy.

Yes. Utgarda-Loki is that Lord of Giants guy's name.

No one remembers slavic myth anymore? Kinda sad

Unlike Norse, Greek, or even Finnish mythology it was never written down, or at least not in a text that has survived.

That goes for most if not all religious textes, cool stories to tell at a camp fire and getting a message across.
Mostly for entertainment tho.

>mjollnir's handle
>that long

There you go. It was literally a fucking plot point that the haft was incomplete.

>Mostly for entertainment tho.
...And philosophical discussion.

It's not all parables and propaganda. You've got to have your Councils of Nicaea, too.

Early concepts had Sif as black (Idris Elba is a friend of Kenneth Branagh so his was locked into the role from very early stages), but later they were scrapped when Jamie Alexander was cast

But a longer handle is so much cooler user.

people of different races can still be raised together or literal kin

user, they ignored it. There is zero mention of it even existing in the movies. Not even an implication or wink-wink-nudge. No raising together, no literal kin.

Russian vikings?

Early russians were a strange mix of slavs and scadinavians to begin with

>party must cross dress as women to infiltrate the baddies lair to complete the quest

Norse mythology is generally the mythological equivalent of the Hangover.

Dis

Loki got fucked by a horse while disguised as a female horse.

Then he birthed an eight-legged horse.

And then Odin got it and he rides it as his mount.

Odin rides around on his horse-grandson.

Not just gold, rad as fuck dwarven made gold jewelry.

>the vikings sucked at fighting
>that's why they conquered huge swathes of britain multiple times and settled all willy nilly across europe and successfully took and raided cities like Paris until they were paid to leave

Odin is Loki's sworn brother, not father

Mah niggah! I remember that comic! That shit was my childhood!

>Vikings were good at fighting
>That's why the lost vs iberians
Look kid, if you lose vs iberians you basically can't fight your way out of a paperbag.

Then what do you call someone who loses to people who lose to wet paperbags?

English

Muslim

The boring parts that arent VIKINGS! (TM)

Cute. As we all know, the English were all wimps, and that's why everyone speaks Norwegian, especially on the internet and this Filipino origami website.

Iberia was tough as shit. Have you heard of the Romans, and the hell they went through trying to quell the unholy celt/God-knows-what-else hybrid that lived there?

Have you heard of our lord and saviour, the falcata?
A L F R E D

Also, for a fair while England owned more of France than France.

Makes sense. I mean, a bunch of whatever sitting around on a wet island minding their own business, doing druid magic and fucking sheep.
>suddenly ruman cultural enrichment
>then saxon, jute and anglo enrichment
>then danes and norwgians
>then normans

Ain't gonna be no wimps left after all that. Then again, after all this they proceeded to get bitch slapped around until they serioused the fuck up and revolutionized naval and state organization. That's really where they took off and became properly relevant. Watch the documentary series "Empire of the Seas", pretty cool stuff.

A bunch of Goths settled there too.

K N U D

Also, for a fair while English kings were more French than English.

Hell, they were more Danish than English for a time too.

With the exemption of Loki punishment, many adaptations often overlook how vengative people are in Norse myths. The norae might as well have invented "vengance is best served cold" because they practiced just that.

I think their thing was more vengeance is a dish best served with a sided of their own entrails.

The part were Thor accidentally rapes Loki one time when he was disguised as a woman.

I can't imagine how awkward the following family dinner must have been for them in Odin's hall...

Well at least they aren't biological brothers.

Imagine if Loki had a child from that...

>So son, I heard you fucked your uncle.
>... He was my aunt at the time.

The Icelander Sagas gives some great insight into Norse society and culture, and they're avaiable for free on the web so there's absolutely no reason to not read them even.

One of my favorites is this part from Egil's Saga
>Skallagrim then became so strong and he caught up Thord and dashed him down so violently that he was all bruised and at once got his bane. Then he seized Egil. Now there was a handmaid of Skallagrim's named Thorgerdr Brak, who had nursed Egil when a child; she was a big woman, strong as a man, and of magic cunning. Said Brak:

>'Dost thou turn they shape-strength, Skallagrim, against thy son?'

>Whereat Skallagrim let Egil loose, but clutched at her. She broke away and took to her heels with Skallagrim after her. So went they to the utmost point of Digra-ness. Then she leapt out from the rock into the water. Skallagrim hurled after her a great stone, which struck her between the shoulders, and neither ever came up again. The water there is now called Brakar-sound. But afterwards, in the evening, when they came home to Borg, Egil was very angry. Skallagrim and everybody else were set at table, but Egil had not yet come to his place. He went into the fire-hall, and up to the man who there had the overseeing of work and the management of moneys for Skallagrim, and was most dear to him. Egil dealt him his deathblow, then went to his seat. Skallagrim spoke not a word about it then, and thenceforward the matter was kept quiet. But father and son exchanged no word good or bad, and so that winter passed.

Mythology in general tends to be weird by modern standards. It's not limited to the Norse.
reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/texts/horus_and_seth.htm

>Now afterward, (at) evening time, bed was prepared for them, and they both lay down. But during the night, Seth caused his phallus to become stiff and inserted it between Horus's thighs. Then Horus placed his hands between his thighs and received Seth's semen. Horus went to tell his mother Isis: "Help me, Isis, my mother, come and see what Seth has done to me."
And he opened his hand(s) and let her see Seth's semen. She let out a loud shriek, seized the copper (knife), cut off his hand(s) that were equivalent. Then she fetched some fragrant ointment and applied it to Horus's phallus. She caused it to become stiff and inserted it into a pot, and he caused his semen to flow down into it.

>And Isis added the semen of Horus onto it. Seth returned according to his daily habit and ate the lettuce, which he regularly ate. Thereupon he became pregnant with the semen of Horus.

>Then Thoth, lord of script and scribe of truth for the Ennead, put his hand on Horus's shoulder and said: "Come out, you semen of Seth."
And it answered him from the water in the interior of the marsh. Thoth put his hand on Seth's shoulder and said: "Come out, you semen of Horus."
Then it said to him: "Where shall I come from?"
Thoth said to it: "Come out from his ear."
Thereupon it said to him: "Is it from his ear that I should issue forth, seeing that I am divine seed?"
Then Thoth said to it:"Come out from the top of his head."
And it emerged as a golden solar disk upon Seth's head. Seth became exceeding furious and extended his hand(s) to seize the golden solar disk. Thoth took it away from him and placed it as a crown upon his (own) head. Then the Ennead said: "Horus is right, and Seth is wrong."

Valkyries are assholes.

Everyone is an asshole in Norse myth. Odin is an asshole. Thor is an asshole. Loki is an asshole. As a rule of thumb, whenever one of the Aesir think that they can get away with being a humongous ballsack, they will inevitably act like a humongous ballsack.

Egil's saga really shows what absolute niggers vikings were.

It's only natural, really. In a society where there is no institution to uphold law, order and justice it becomes each man's responsibility to protect himself and his family, and one of the best ways to do so under such circumstances is to show constantly that you are not to be fucked with.

...

My forbidden lore check seems to have failed.
The panda seems to have nothing from Shaizou

Personally, I think the divide between the Aesir and Vanis is neglected in a lot of pop culture Norse-lite fantasy.

The distinction isn't really clear a lot of the time, just as it isn't between Aesir and Jötnar and Elves and Dwarves. They all have similar powers, and they often change shapes. It would almost seem that they are just different families or tribes but of the same race.

Except Baldr, but he's a dead asshole.

Generally, Vanir are the "soft" gods, fertility, harvest and second sight, whereas the Æsir are the simpler physical ones.

Loki is not Odin's son. In fact they are more like brothers, or so says Odin himself.

The thing is, that isn't entirely accurate either. Thor was, for example, in large part also a fertility deity, and the Vanir in turn were no strangers to war.

>settled all willy nilly across europe
Except for England they never did that. There was 1 successful siege of Paris and then it all went downhill for them in continental Western Europe

And also, the Aesir was rarely simple and not always physical. Odin, for example, was a god of death, and also of magic, knowledge, poetry, frenzy, and is the creator of the runic alphabet.

Odin 't wasn't inherently a mage though, it was stolen knowledge, rituals, bargains and sacrifice that bought hims his magic and insight.